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Post by Scrotnig on Aug 22, 2019 19:55:33 GMT
We're destroyed already, or hadn't you noticed?
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Post by Trouserdog on Aug 22, 2019 19:56:09 GMT
I'm starting to come round to the same conclusion. As someone who couldn't wait to see the back of him (both times) I always thought we'd have to be in a real kind of mess before I'd want us to resort to the kind of uber-pragmatic survival football he'd inevitably dish up. However, i think we're in exactly that mess right now. I'd much rather have Chris Hughton or possibly Moyes due to the absence of baggage they'd bring, but I think it's that type of manager we need now- someone who'll get us organised and mould the crap he's inherited into a functional team. Bloody hell, Trousers. Haha. It's desperate I know! What would probably stop me pressing the nuclear button is that he'd inevitably freeze out the likes of Edwards, Collins, Verlinden and Campbell in favour of grizzled old pros...the same as he does everywhere. Ideally we need a pragmatist who'll do the good stuff that TP did (and there was some) without being quite the full-on Pulis experience.
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Post by ursemboys on Aug 22, 2019 19:57:20 GMT
We're destroyed already, or hadn't you noticed? Are we fuck destroyed. Place is full of drama queens.
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 22, 2019 19:59:55 GMT
Does Pulis' recent track record suggest he could bring any degree of success to accompany the scratching-your-eyes-out tedium? I guess for some success is now avoiding relegation? I couldn't see him getting us out of here in the upwards direction again, but I'm sure there is no way we'd go down either. But surely we are not at that point of desperation yet? Yeah - that's fair, Para. He's obviously been very good at what he does previously - but not sure his spells at West Brom and Boro really suggest he could offer us all that much now - except probably a guarantee of survival, as you say. I hope I'm not being naive in still hoping for a bit more, especially with all the baggage he'd inevitably bring. Maybe I am!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 20:00:07 GMT
Not really. People are staying he would stop the rot. He would sort this shit show out. No-ones expecting it to be pretty but you can’t say he won’t go back to basics and start rebuilding the foundations. how many managers do people want,he would want time just the same hasJones needs,ffs its 4 matches,the other week people where saying how we are getting there one bad game and its like a suicide watch. Jones will come good he has seen what's going on and now I expect him to start the dropping of poor performing players,ffs sake people take a chill pill and give him a chance. Pulis will destroy stoke,dont people remember what it was like and whats gone on since he left, the man is a dinosaur ,hope the fucker ends up in jail the corrupt twat. Alas it’s not just one bad game. It’s been 8 months and 11 new players I can’t see a shred of evidence that he has a single fucking clue that he knows what he’s doing. As I said I am with the people that although in ideal world it would never happen I look at the list and think who can stop the rot and who would I trust to sort the shit out. It’d be ugly for sure but we wouldn’t be a disorganised mess on or off the field.
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Post by ursemboys on Aug 22, 2019 20:03:06 GMT
how many managers do people want,he would want time just the same hasJones needs,ffs its 4 matches,the other week people where saying how we are getting there one bad game and its like a suicide watch. Jones will come good he has seen what's going on and now I expect him to start the dropping of poor performing players,ffs sake people take a chill pill and give him a chance. Pulis will destroy stoke,dont people remember what it was like and whats gone on since he left, the man is a dinosaur ,hope the fucker ends up in jail the corrupt twat. Alas it’s not just one bad game. It’s been 8 months and 11 new players I can’t see a shred of evidence that he has a single fucking clue that he knows what he’s doing. As I said I am with the people that although in ideal world it would never happen I look at the list and think who can stop the rot and who would I trust to sort the shit out. It’d be ugly for sure but we wouldn’t be a disorganised mess on or off the field. So we stop the rot, what happens next,were do we go then or do we just carry on stopping the rot,Pulis will not take us forward he is a busted flush, he won't get another big club.
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Post by Scrotnig on Aug 22, 2019 20:03:22 GMT
We're destroyed already, or hadn't you noticed? Are we fuck destroyed. Place is full of drama queens. 3 wins in 25, or however many games it now is. Any other team with that record would be considered destroyed as a footballing force. We are going nowhere except downwards, and it's very obvious Jones has no idea how to sort out. I'm not actually in favour of The Great Tone returning, but I can concede that he'd know exactly to stabilise this mess.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 20:04:30 GMT
Alas it’s not just one bad game. It’s been 8 months and 11 new players I can’t see a shred of evidence that he has a single fucking clue that he knows what he’s doing. As I said I am with the people that although in ideal world it would never happen I look at the list and think who can stop the rot and who would I trust to sort the shit out. It’d be ugly for sure but we wouldn’t be a disorganised mess on or off the field. So we stop the rot, what happens next,were do we go then or do we just carry on stopping the rot,Pulis will not take us forward he is a busted flush, he won't get another big club. No but at the moment we just need to stop going backwards and build a platform from which we can go forwards.
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 22, 2019 20:05:59 GMT
Bloody hell, Trousers. Haha. It's desperate I know! What would probably stop me pressing the nuclear button is that he'd inevitably freeze out the likes of Edwards, Collins, Verlinden and Campbell in favour of grizzled old pros...the same as he does everywhere. Ideally we need a pragmatist who'll do the good stuff that TP did (and there was some) without being quite the full-on Pulis experience. Yeah - I think that's the type we'll go for. None of this Stendel/Cowley stuff. If Hughton's not available when the time comes, all bets are off. I wouldn't mind Neil from Preston, but can't see him coming. He supposedly turned down West Brom. Monk would be an interesting one. He seems pragmatic enough. That speculation about him and his agent mate and their transfer deals sounded interesting though! Karanka seems to want a job, but doesn't do much for me Coleman? No thanks Pearson has been off grid for too long. Lee Bowyer's doing well? No idea really
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Post by ursemboys on Aug 22, 2019 20:07:47 GMT
Are we fuck destroyed. Place is full of drama queens. 3 wins in 25, or however many games it now is. Any other team with that record would be considered destroyed as a footballing force. We are going nowhere except downwards, and it's very obvious Jones has no idea how to sort out. I'm not actually in favour of The Great Tone returning, but I can concede that he'd know exactly to stabilise this mess. But what happens next, he stabilise and then we are back to step one with a side of old pros boring the shit out of us
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Post by Trouserdog on Aug 22, 2019 20:09:01 GMT
Haha. It's desperate I know! What would probably stop me pressing the nuclear button is that he'd inevitably freeze out the likes of Edwards, Collins, Verlinden and Campbell in favour of grizzled old pros...the same as he does everywhere. Ideally we need a pragmatist who'll do the good stuff that TP did (and there was some) without being quite the full-on Pulis experience. Yeah - I think that's the type we'll go for. None of this Stendel/Cowley stuff. If Hughton's not available when the time comes, all bets are off. I wouldn't mind Neil from Preston, but can't see him coming. He supposedly turned down West Brom. Monk would be an interesting one. He seems pragmatic enough. That speculation about him and his agent mate and their transfer deals sounded interesting though! Karanka seems to want a job, but doesn't do much for me Coleman? No thanks Pearson has been off grid for too long. Lee Bowyer's doing well? No idea really To be honest, if we could definitely get Hughton i'd wield the axe and the strap-on myself! None of the other candidates fill me with any hope at all. Monk's got the best track record, but there's something a bit cunty about him that I can't quite put my finger on.
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Post by Scrotnig on Aug 22, 2019 20:09:51 GMT
3 wins in 25, or however many games it now is. Any other team with that record would be considered destroyed as a footballing force. We are going nowhere except downwards, and it's very obvious Jones has no idea how to sort out. I'm not actually in favour of The Great Tone returning, but I can concede that he'd know exactly to stabilise this mess. But what happens next, he stabilise and then we are back to step one with a side of old pros boring the shit out of us Well in his last stint he got us up. It doesn't really matter because I don't think he's the answer, but he'd certainly get things stable. As for where we went from there, well let's get there first eh? Learn to run before we can walk.
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Post by serpico on Aug 22, 2019 20:13:32 GMT
I’d go for TP with Gary Megson as his number 2... the dream team.
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Post by ursemboys on Aug 22, 2019 20:16:05 GMT
But what happens next, he stabilise and then we are back to step one with a side of old pros boring the shit out of us Well in his last stint he got us up. It doesn't really matter because I don't think he's the answer, but he'd certainly get things stable. As for where we went from there, well let's get there first eh? Learn to run before we can walk. I think given time Jones will do it ,we have to be patient,pulis only saved us on the last day against reading. Need to take a deep breath and hang on, we are not far away.
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Post by ursemboys on Aug 22, 2019 20:16:41 GMT
I’d go for TP with Gary Megson as his number 2... the dream team. Can I buy what ever your taking it must be top stuff
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Post by ursemboys on Aug 22, 2019 20:17:37 GMT
Yeah - I think that's the type we'll go for. None of this Stendel/Cowley stuff. If Hughton's not available when the time comes, all bets are off. I wouldn't mind Neil from Preston, but can't see him coming. He supposedly turned down West Brom. Monk would be an interesting one. He seems pragmatic enough. That speculation about him and his agent mate and their transfer deals sounded interesting though! Karanka seems to want a job, but doesn't do much for me Coleman? No thanks Pearson has been off grid for too long. Lee Bowyer's doing well? No idea really To be honest, if we could definitely get Hughton i'd wield the axe and the strap-on myself! None of the other candidates fill me with any hope at all. Monk's got the best track record, but there's something a bit cunty about him that I can't quite put my finger on. he has the Pulis look about him, that cunty look
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Post by serpico on Aug 22, 2019 20:18:15 GMT
I’d go for TP with Gary Megson as his number 2... the dream team. Can I buy what ever your taking it must be top stuff Heh thought I’d see if anyone would bite
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Post by harryburrows on Aug 22, 2019 20:19:04 GMT
Whatever happens we can't afford the faux loyalty that cost us our premiership status , we don't owe jones any longer than the next 4 weeks . Any more dithering and it will only lead to div 1 and will severely affect our chances of a decent appointment
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Post by thevoid on Aug 22, 2019 20:19:45 GMT
Haha. It's desperate I know! What would probably stop me pressing the nuclear button is that he'd inevitably freeze out the likes of Edwards, Collins, Verlinden and Campbell in favour of grizzled old pros...the same as he does everywhere. Ideally we need a pragmatist who'll do the good stuff that TP did (and there was some) without being quite the full-on Pulis experience. Yeah - I think that's the type we'll go for. None of this Stendel/Cowley stuff. If Hughton's not available when the time comes, all bets are off. I wouldn't mind Neil from Preston, but can't see him coming. He supposedly turned down West Brom. Monk would be an interesting one. He seems pragmatic enough. That speculation about him and his agent mate and their transfer deals sounded interesting though! Karanka seems to want a job, but doesn't do much for me Coleman? No thanks Pearson has been off grid for too long. Lee Bowyer's doing well? No idea really Karanka? Spanish Pulis
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Post by rivival on Aug 22, 2019 20:20:10 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 20:20:31 GMT
Nigel Pearson would knock em into shape, literally
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Post by strangerthingshappen on Aug 22, 2019 20:20:39 GMT
Can I buy what ever your taking it must be top stuff Heh thought I’d see if anyone would bite They did !!
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Post by ursemboys on Aug 22, 2019 20:23:49 GMT
Heh thought I’d see if anyone would bite They did !!
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Post by stokeox11 on Aug 22, 2019 20:25:10 GMT
I can't stand the thought of almost all of the names mentioned being in charge of our club. Big Sam would do a job for us as would Tone. However, I have wanted Nigel Pearson back at the club since we got rid of Hughes. Fingers crossed St Pete will see the light and get him in.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 20:27:48 GMT
Tony Pulis?
Oh do fcuk off.
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Post by stokeox11 on Aug 22, 2019 20:34:43 GMT
Tony Pulis? Oh do fcuk off. Not my first choice but better than most of this dismal wankers being quoted in earlier threads. He would keep us up and stabilise the club. All our supporters owe him a debt of gratitude still.
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 22, 2019 20:35:34 GMT
I’d go for TP with Gary Megson as his number 2... the dream team. Sick bastard
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Post by ursemboys on Aug 22, 2019 20:36:57 GMT
Tony Pulis? Oh do fcuk off. Not my first choice but better than most of this dismal wankers being quoted in earlier threads. He would keep us up and stabilise the club. All our supporters owe him a debt of gratitude still. Do we fuck owe him anything he got paid millions.
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Post by stokeox11 on Aug 22, 2019 20:38:51 GMT
Not my first choice but better than most of this dismal wankers being quoted in earlier threads. He would keep us up and stabilise the club. All our supporters owe him a debt of gratitude still. Do we fuck owe him anything he got paid millions. He got paid millions to get us up and keep us up, from memory he did what was asked. I have not heard of any managers who would do that for a few quid.
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Post by ursemboys on Aug 22, 2019 20:42:10 GMT
Do we fuck owe him anything he got paid millions. He got paid millions to get us up and keep us up, from memory he did what was asked. I have not heard of any managers who would do that for a few quid. Then he started to destroy it, but if you think we owe him gratitude then you can bollocks (and I mean that in a nice way) we owe him nowt, he did alright out of the family and did ok after and lets face it without Stoke he was a nothing.
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