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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2019 9:51:39 GMT
If we can afford to spend 70m on a Championship team, and the average Champs manager is paid less than 500k a year, is it just me that thinks paying for a good manager would be a bargain? There are managers other than Jones and Pulis. Let's buy one. Get a good manager on 1-2m a year. Hughton/Allardyce/Moyes are the obvious desirables, where the enticement might perhaps have to be a DOF post and Board position (and its still a long shot), but failing that I'd take any of the likes of Alex O'Neill, Garry Monk, Carlos Carvahal (even Darren Moore, Nigel Pearson) etc with good recent records in this league over a guy who is clearly out of his depth by a long shot. Perhaps we even need both. Come January, Sell Butland for 15m (Allen for 7m fingers crossed), buy a good champs level CDM for 3m, a sturdy experienced goalkeeper who can organise a defence, like Ruddy and bank the 15m+ left. With that expertise, Im certain we'd be fine and live to fight another day at least. I love your posts tony. You always take me on a journey and an experience I never forget. I love your 'licked finger' in the sky figures for selling and buying players. I wish the club would employ you. It couldn't be any worse.
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Post by Gods on Aug 26, 2019 9:53:56 GMT
1. Hang tough with Nath and hope, god willing, results improve. 2. The 3rd coming of Tony Pulis, at least he is a sensible grown up. 3. Try to poach Chis Hougton from under the noses of Huddersfield Town. Any others...? Alex Neil is a shout, whether we could get him or not is another matter. Yes, he would tick the all important, for me anyway, 'sensible' box.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 26, 2019 9:59:40 GMT
No - did you see Sunderland til I die?.. What about this? Coates proposes to Jones TP until the end of the season regardless. TP then goes at the end of the season after making a princely sum. Coates then makes a call on Jones. Remember Boro did something similar to this with Veneables and Southgate. Could be Nath needs some help. Hart was a shite manager anyway. and doesn’t seem much help. TP likely to be next Wales boss. Think this would maintain Championship status and buy some time to see if Nath comes good or find a new manager without panicking. Next cheap option to get the fans on side could be Rory, I think that would be a disaster. There would be no way back for Jones from that, just like there wasn’t for Robson at Boro or Evans at Liverpool. In what way is he likely to be the next Wales manager?
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Post by serpico on Aug 26, 2019 11:56:09 GMT
I think jones will end up back at Luton.
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Post by Clayton Wood on Aug 26, 2019 12:10:52 GMT
But then would anybody spot the difference?
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Post by tony1234 on Aug 26, 2019 18:33:08 GMT
If we can afford to spend 70m on a Championship team, and the average Champs manager is paid less than 500k a year, is it just me that thinks paying for a good manager would be a bargain? There are managers other than Jones and Pulis. Let's buy one. Get a good manager on 1-2m a year. Hughton/Allardyce/Moyes are the obvious desirables, where the enticement might perhaps have to be a DOF post and Board position (and its still a long shot), but failing that I'd take any of the likes of Alex O'Neill, Garry Monk, Carlos Carvahal (even Darren Moore, Nigel Pearson) etc with good recent records in this league over a guy who is clearly out of his depth by a long shot. Perhaps we even need both. Come January, Sell Butland for 15m (Allen for 7m fingers crossed), buy a good champs level CDM for 3m, a sturdy experienced goalkeeper who can organise a defence, like Ruddy and bank the 15m+ left. With that expertise, Im certain we'd be fine and live to fight another day at least. I love your posts tony. You always take me on a journey and an experience I never forget. I love your 'licked finger' in the sky figures for selling and buying players. I wish the club would employ you. It couldn't be any worse. Thank you! (i think?!#).
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 31, 2019 16:51:49 GMT
Interesting that Cowley is now the 11/8 fav for Huddersfield
Looking at the Hudders and Wednesday runners and riders, are there any (vaguely) realistic candidates outside:
Hughton Pulis Cowley Monk Neil Adkins Karanka Campbell P.Neville van Bronckhorst Carvalhal Stendel McInnes Pearson Puel Cook Bowyer Coleman Terry
plus Moyes who looks a non-runner?
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Post by roylandstoke on Aug 31, 2019 16:56:52 GMT
Replacing a manager with a record like Jones' should be easy: it must be virtually impossible to get worse results with this group of players.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Aug 31, 2019 16:57:29 GMT
Hughton.
Hughton.
Then Hughton.
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Post by unknown182 on Aug 31, 2019 16:58:24 GMT
Hughton please.
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 31, 2019 17:00:31 GMT
I think Hughton will probably get it and Peter will probably push for him.
I wouldn't mind a punt on Cowley though.
Just think the board will maybe understandably dive into the safety of Hughton's cautious 60-something, been-around-the-block arms and run a mile from some shiny next-best-thing 40-year-old.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2019 17:00:48 GMT
Replacing a manager with a record like Jones' should be easy: it must be virtually impossible to get worse results with this group of players. Yes but it’s not easy to fix the mess that’s been made over the last three years.
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Post by houstonsteve on Aug 31, 2019 17:03:47 GMT
The right man for the job given experience, track record, quality, man management skills and desire is Hughton.
So - never in a million years will it be him given our senior managements glaring lack of competence.
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Post by 19notbeaten72 on Aug 31, 2019 17:03:48 GMT
I think jones will end up back at Luton. Luton doing just fine without Jones so cannot see that happening.
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Post by potter25 on Aug 31, 2019 17:05:12 GMT
Hughton first second third
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 31, 2019 17:05:32 GMT
We need a manager that these bunch of tosspot players may have a scintilla of respect for. Clearly Jones has lost them.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Aug 31, 2019 17:06:53 GMT
I think Hughton will probably get it and Peter will probably push for him. I wouldn't mind a punt on Cowley though. Just think the board will maybe understandably dive into the safety of Hughton's cautious 60-something, been-around-the-block arms and run a mile from some shiny next-best-thing 40-year-old. You’d be happy with Cowley’s style of football FM?
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 31, 2019 17:08:44 GMT
Replacing Jones with Cowley would be another massive mistake. We MUST have a manager who is used to managing at this level or equivalent at the very least.
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Post by claytonscrubs on Aug 31, 2019 17:09:42 GMT
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Post by serpico on Aug 31, 2019 17:10:00 GMT
Well, it would certainly make sense to act now and get Jones out of the door with the two week break.
It’ll be one of pulis or Hughton.
Just got a feeling coates will turn to pulis.
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 31, 2019 17:11:40 GMT
I think Hughton will probably get it and Peter will probably push for him. I wouldn't mind a punt on Cowley though. Just think the board will maybe understandably dive into the safety of Hughton's cautious 60-something, been-around-the-block arms and run a mile from some shiny next-best-thing 40-year-old. You’d be happy with Cowley’s style of football FM? From what I've read, CP, (and stand to be corrected) I get the impression he's a lot less long-bally than he was and is modifying his style substantially as he goes up the pyramid? And, it has to be said, his record is bloody good regardless! I genuinely don't know who I'd like at the moment, but he'd be on the shortlist
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Post by Gary Hackett on Aug 31, 2019 17:12:38 GMT
I think Hughton will probably get it and Peter will probably push for him. I wouldn't mind a punt on Cowley though. Just think the board will maybe understandably dive into the safety of Hughton's cautious 60-something, been-around-the-block arms and run a mile from some shiny next-best-thing 40-year-old. Why on earth would you sack an out of depth lower league manager and then give the job to another lower league manager. The next manager has to be an experienced manager who has a proven track record of getting teams promoted from this division.
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Post by crowey on Aug 31, 2019 17:13:18 GMT
Replacing Jones with Cowley would be another massive mistake. We MUST have a manager who is used to managing at this level or equivalent at the very least. .... didn’t even recognise him. He seems to have aged and lost hair - just wait until he gets here
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Post by Godo on Aug 31, 2019 17:14:19 GMT
Can't rely on our board to have a clue about any imaginative appointment. The only hope for me amongst managers they have heard of to avoid relegation would be Monk or Hughton.
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Post by boothenender on Aug 31, 2019 17:14:27 GMT
I am probably one of just a few that still Hope's that Nathan Jones can turn things around for us. But going by recent results I get the feeling that it would be better if he left by mutual consent. This will allow both parties to proceed with out losing face,and Nathan Jones will not have a black mark on his CV. I was calling for Cowley from Licoln before Nathan Jones was appointed, but I now believe that we need a Manager/Coach with a higher public profile. Peter Coates has to act sooner rather that later, we must not repeat the same mistake that occured during the Hughes regime. It is time to offer Chris Hughton the job as Stoke City Manager. Peter Coates must then back him.fully with a decent budget to stop this total mess that we now find ourselves in. I really do feel sorry for Nathan Jones for the mess that he inherited, he can leave with honour go and dust himself down and find a new Managers position at a lower level and rebuild his reputation as a decent Manager.
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 31, 2019 17:14:31 GMT
I think Hughton will probably get it and Peter will probably push for him. I wouldn't mind a punt on Cowley though. Just think the board will maybe understandably dive into the safety of Hughton's cautious 60-something, been-around-the-block arms and run a mile from some shiny next-best-thing 40-year-old. Why on earth would you sack an out of depth lower league manager and then give the job to another lower league manager. The next manager has to be an experienced manager who has a proven track record of getting teams promoted from this division. Yeah - I'm sure that line of thinking will win the day. They'll go for what they perceive to be an older, safer pair of hands. Whether Hughton proves to be that, time will tell! Just hope his time hasn't been and gone in the same way Pulis' almost certainly has!
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Post by Gary Hackett on Aug 31, 2019 17:15:10 GMT
Replacing Jones with Cowley would be another massive mistake. We MUST have a manager who is used to managing at this level or equivalent at the very least. Indeed. I'm totally flabbergasted why anyone would want someone like Cowley at this point in time. Maybe it's not just Jones on drugs.
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Post by gingerninja on Aug 31, 2019 17:16:03 GMT
Normally if managers are under pressure the press get wins, nothing thus far. Our next 2 games Bristol City and Brentford - not looking good..
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Lads'n'Dads
Any advice on last min tkt should I go to Anfield and try to get in amongst Reds?
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Post by conroyfan on Aug 31, 2019 17:16:14 GMT
Get James O' Connor back from the US
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 31, 2019 17:17:03 GMT
Replacing Jones with Cowley would be another massive mistake. We MUST have a manager who is used to managing at this level or equivalent at the very least. Indeed. I'm totally flabbergasted why anyone would want someone like Cowley at this point in time. Maybe it's not just Jones on drugs. If Hughton didn't want it, where would you look, Gary? That's the interesting question. He's the obvious, safety-first candidate that can be seen from space like the Great Wall of China! But picking a No.2 option is harder.
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