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Post by 3putts on Jun 28, 2019 11:18:29 GMT
I don't understand the level of hatred for our former manager lmh people have short memories stokealona will live on long in my memory mega bucks man City and United couldn't live with us at the time and we were a penalty away from being in the league Cup final.
His biggest fault was his stubbornness esp when he fraught tooth and nail for Berahino tp did his best to put him off but mh thought tp was doing that because he didn't want to help us, he was wrong
Imo if we had signed sonedody like gayle instead of Berahino we would still be in the prem
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Post by berahinosgoals on Jun 28, 2019 11:21:26 GMT
Robson green 3rd favourite Jimmy nail 4th Sadly I Googled Robson Green as thought was a genuine name  . Should have read number 4 first I guess, I know who he is I didn't know myself lol. He must be fed up of spending Saturday night at the movies |
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Post by iglugluk on Jun 28, 2019 11:35:48 GMT
I don't understand the level of hatred for our former manager lmh people have short memories stokealona will live on long in my memory mega bucks man City and United couldn't live with us at the time and we were a penalty away from being in the league Cup final. His biggest fault was his stubbornness esp when he fraught tooth and nail for Berahino tp did his best to put him off but mh thought tp was doing that because he didn't want to help us, he was wrong Imo if we had signed sonedody like gayle instead of Berahino we would still be in the prem Hughes allowed the defence to go to pot and it took him two or three seasons to achieve it, and we were relegated by that hopeless and inadequate defending. Regardless of the great couple of seasons under his stewardship, ultimately he failed. I certainly dont hate him, I must say, but he squandered our position and led the club into the total disarray that both relegated and diminished us and he did it in a spectacularly short time. Sure the good couple of seasons or so were a real high point and some of it was great to watch but his legacy was negative for the club. He did the same thing at QPR. I reckon he's poison personally. |
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Post by hoofmagic on Jun 28, 2019 11:42:17 GMT
OMG are newcastle that DAFT..........he's just a rip off MERCHANT.
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Post by kelw on Jun 28, 2019 11:58:36 GMT
I’m not sure the base he inherited was as solid as some claim but it can’t be denied that when the time came to replace it he got things spectacularly wrong. That win at QPR kept us out of a relegation battle the year before he came. We were in free fall the year before he came and he turned that into a top 10 side but I think those who refuse to accept that he did at one time build a very good side won't give him the positive credit where due. Going to places like West Ham and Everton and expecting a result seem ridiculous now but things can change quickly in football. it's history now anyway and perhaps some didn't appreciate what we had. |
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Post by chadam on Jun 28, 2019 17:48:25 GMT
I don't understand the level of hatred for our former manager lmh people have short memories stokealona will live on long in my memory mega bucks man City and United couldn't live with us at the time and we were a penalty away from being in the league Cup final. His biggest fault was his stubbornness esp when he fraught tooth and nail for Berahino tp did his best to put him off but mh thought tp was doing that because he didn't want to help us, he was wrong Imo if we had signed sonedody like gayle instead of Berahino we would still be in the prem He was a polar opposite of Pulis and as he dragged us from one extreme to the other we actually managed to find a happy medium which was the Stokalona days. Pulis was completely authoritarian, it was his way or no way whereas Hughes was open to so many people's views that he had no identity at all. The killing of Hughes was that he failed to realise that the structured defence and strong spine to the team contributed as much, arguably more, than the flair and creative freedom he gave to our attacking players. I find it hard to really slag of Hughes as we played our best football in the Prem under him but it was so evident that he had lost the plot about a year before his sacking. |
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Post by rawli on Jun 28, 2019 17:57:16 GMT
Many posters on here run on vitriol - it’s what gets them through the day. It's not just on here. It's football supporters in general these days. Hate first think second. It's people in general, not just football supporters. |
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Post by elystokie on Jun 28, 2019 18:13:53 GMT
It's not just on here. It's football supporters in general these days. Hate first think second. It's people in general, not just football supporters. It's primates in general, not just people. |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jun 28, 2019 19:20:55 GMT
Only 6 managers have won more premier league games , One of them surely has to be TP? If not he must be somewhere up there  On the website I saw Hughes was around 5th favourite. Surprisingly TP was a long way down the list, must be cos he lives so far away... Be interesting to see where he is on the list but he’s below hughes |
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Post by skip on Jun 28, 2019 19:26:02 GMT
It's people in general, not just football supporters. It's primates in general, not just people. Do primates have the ability to hate? Genuine question. |
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Post by elystokie on Jun 28, 2019 19:28:10 GMT
It's primates in general, not just people. Do primates have the ability to hate? Genuine question. I have no idea, I'd need to look it up. I was being facetious (I think, but I should probably look that up as well  ) |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jun 28, 2019 19:28:48 GMT
Games still got to be won and you wouldn’t say he’d be favourite in the majority of those games given the clubs he’s managed Liverpool and Chelsea? Sorry, you're correct. Two of the smallest and poorest clubs in the history of the Premier League. I’m not clear in your point or indeed who it’s referring to . |
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Post by elystokie on Jun 28, 2019 19:30:49 GMT
One of them surely has to be TP? If not he must be somewhere up there On the website I saw Hughes was around 5th favourite. Surprisingly TP was a long way down the list, must be cos he lives so far away... Be interesting to see where he is on the list but he’s below hughes . He was at 25/1 on the list I saw at lunchtime, things change very quickly tho so it could be anything by now. |
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Post by sneydgreenstokie1 on Jun 28, 2019 19:31:06 GMT
Hughes's record as a PL manager - 308 games played, 110 games won - win percentage = 36%
Pulis's record as a PL manager - 216 games played, 67 games when - win percentage = 31%
If you account that at Man City Hughes had 77 games and 36 wins (with huge backing at the time) then thier records are really close (Hughes's record without Man City, games player = 231, games won = 74, win percentage = 32%
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Post by Absolution on Jun 28, 2019 19:35:17 GMT
Do primates have the ability to hate? Genuine question. I have no idea, I'd need to look it up. I was being facetious (I think, but I should probably look that up as well ) I'm just glad I abandoned the idea of bringing mammals into it. I'd not prepared for any follow-on questions either. |
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Post by kelw on Jun 28, 2019 19:38:59 GMT
Hughes's record as a PL manager - 308 games played, 110 games won - win percentage = 36% Pulis's record as a PL manager - 216 games played, 67 games when - win percentage = 31% If you account that at Man City Hughes had 77 games and 36 wins (with huge backing at the time) then thier records are really close (Hughes's record without Man City, games player = 231, games won = 74, win percentage = 32% Mancini's first year at Man City, after spending £200m, he only had a slightly better win ratio than Hughes. Obviously after more spends he went on to win the league |
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Post by cheadlestokie on Jun 28, 2019 19:40:00 GMT
I don't understand the level of hatred for our former manager lmh people have short memories stokealona will live on long in my memory mega bucks man City and United couldn't live with us at the time and we were a penalty away from being in the league Cup final. His biggest fault was his stubbornness esp when he fraught tooth and nail for Berahino tp did his best to put him off but mh thought tp was doing that because he didn't want to help us, he was wrong Imo if we had signed sonedody like gayle instead of Berahino we would still be in the prem And throwing his toys out of the pram when the Club did not want to buy Wimmer for that ridiculous fee. And insisting Imbula was bought after seeing him in one friendly. |
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Post by rawli on Jun 28, 2019 19:46:21 GMT
It's primates in general, not just people. Do primates have the ability to hate? Genuine question. Keown wasn't keen on Van Nistelrooy |
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Post by rawli on Jun 28, 2019 19:50:01 GMT
It's primates in general, not just people. Do primates have the ability to hate? Genuine question. Double post. |
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Post by neddy on Jun 28, 2019 19:50:53 GMT
Do primates have the ability to hate? Genuine question. Keown wasn't keen on Van Nistelrooy Careful there are snowflakes on here 🤦♂️ |
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Post by davelistersdad on Jun 28, 2019 21:29:26 GMT
He was able to produce a team with some of the best football I've ever seen as a Stoke supporter.
Good luck to him and the geordies.
Just get rid after 2 seasons.
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Post by skip on Jun 28, 2019 21:55:54 GMT
Do primates have the ability to hate? Genuine question. Double post. <smiles> |
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Post by tony1234 on Jun 28, 2019 22:08:14 GMT
He did well ....Then he did bad... It happens with a shed load of managers.
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Should have been sacked, with a slightly heavy heart but logical realisation that his methods and plan were failing and falling apart, around 6-12mths before he was.
After his transfers and demands were overly indulged, at expense of the club's wider checks and balances - and he wasn't sacked for the results quickly enough - it got undignified.
He could have walked away with dignity if he'd gone in the summer before he left and we could have regrouped,
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Jun 28, 2019 22:47:42 GMT
The poor bastards have suffered enough.
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Post by Boothen on Jun 28, 2019 23:06:51 GMT
New consortium tops the list to buy out Ashley...  |
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Post by kelw on Jun 29, 2019 0:22:10 GMT
New consortium tops the list to buy out Ashley... Awesome... Pat Roach, twice killed by Indiana Jones and twice beaten up by him playing 4 different characters. EDIT...no one was a drinking contest in Nepal, he collapsed |
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Post by thisfootballclub on Jun 29, 2019 2:32:32 GMT
People don’t have selective amnesia regarding Hughes. Give him a rock solid base crafted from years of due diligence, and then allow him to sprinkle some flair onto that base, and he’s a very good manager. Task him with rebuilding that base and he builds something about as useful as a house of cards in a hurricane. If Hughes had left at the end of his third season then this vitriol wouldn’t exist. In fact, if we’d got rid just 2 or 3 weeks sooner I’d say there’s a very decent chance we’d still be a premiership club. It was misplaced faith and loyalty that decimated Hughes’ legacy as much as anything else. This. |
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Post by zerps on Jun 29, 2019 5:31:09 GMT
Keown wasn't keen on Van Nistelrooy Careful there are snowflakes on here 🤦♂️ Pure racism |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jun 29, 2019 6:13:06 GMT
It's people in general, not just football supporters. It's primates in general, not just people. As the newly elected president of the "Save the Slow Loris Society" I object to that remark!  |
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Post by loosestools on Jun 29, 2019 6:21:18 GMT
It's primates in general, not just people. As the newly elected president of the "Save the Slow Loris Society" I object to that remark! Is Volkes in danger? |
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