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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Nov 2, 2020 16:08:02 GMT
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Post by thevoid on Nov 2, 2020 16:09:34 GMT
I think you'll find that I've replied to probably less than one percent of your overall contributions on here- I don't even glance at the majority of them due to blocking you. So let's put this 'following you around the board' myth to bed, hey? 😆 (You're probably sad enough to work out the percentage of replies to posts- I wouldn't put it past you!) Apart from having stated quite openly that you do follow me around the board, "to expose my hypocrisy" like it's some kind of weird personal crusade to take yourself and this place waaaaay too seriously, then yes, you're right, firmly put to bed Out of interest, what do you actually do? Block my posts, then struggle with the temptation to have just a quick peep to see if it's something to get angry about, and if so, unblock them so you can reply? If anything's a bit sad, it's that, old fruit. I think you're probably better off mentally leaving them blocked if they bother you that much. It's just a football messageboard, Voidy, try not to take it so seriously that it winds you up to the point you need to resort to name calling and abuse. I see you were getting a bit tetchy again with NicholasJAllcock the other day too. Chill out, there's no need! I think you'll find it was Nicholas who was going OTT and accusing me of- rather randomly- 'practicing evil' (which is a new one even by Oatcake standards!). The main thing I pulled Nicko up on was his ridiculous comment about Thatcher being, I quote: 'the most evil cnut who ever walked the planet' which, whether you liked her or loathed her, is a pretty ridiculous thing to say given the competition. If we'd had a member of Right Wing Club using similar vernacular regarding Jeremy Corbyn, for instance, I'm sure you'd be pulling them up on it pretty sharpish. After all, saying as you're such a crusader against abuse on The Oatie, here we had a dead woman unable to defend herself against unnecessary levels of abuse, rather than another poster who can reply back and fight their corner. Still, I'm not in the least bit surprised you ignore those comments and focus on me instead. Your faux outrage over abuse and name-calling will hold a lot more water if you applied it evenly to Left Wing Club when they're guilty of it- saying as you don't seem bothered when that happens, I can only assume you're not really that fussed about it when all said and done? Anyway, I don't want another thread to be hijacked by your argumentative nonsense, so if you insist on carrying this on, drop us a PM 😎 PS regarding your question- your posts are visible when you've been requoted by another poster, flower 😊
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Nov 2, 2020 16:13:26 GMT
I'd love to know how your mind works at times. This fear you hold for anyone who doesnt agree with your way of thinking being boxed into this category of 'The Left' is fascinating. Lockdown not being the main politcal issue of the time, people not relating to the 2 largest parties leaders despite voting intentions showing they dominate around 75%, conformists of people following government guidelines and the slavish devotion to a man who has less politcal policies than Joe Biden. The ultimate one-trick pony who last year you believed to be the best person to be Prime Minister. Completely agree. Everything always reverts back to being the fault of "The Left" in some way... (Or making it personal, that's the other one!) We're still non the wiser as to who 'they' are either. Last night's revelation that the real left is Nigel Farage nearly caused a medical emergency.
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Nov 2, 2020 16:15:27 GMT
Have you give Peter Geoeghans new book a read Huddy?
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Nov 2, 2020 16:17:53 GMT
Completely agree. Everything always reverts back to being the fault of "The Left" in some way... (Or making it personal, that's the other one!) We're still non the wiser as to who 'they' are either. Last night's revelation that the real left is Nigel Farage nearly caused a medical emergency. I know! It's almost every post, somewhere there has to be some assertion that "The Left" is the real reason the country is in the mess that it is.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Nov 2, 2020 16:31:57 GMT
Apart from having stated quite openly that you do follow me around the board, "to expose my hypocrisy" like it's some kind of weird personal crusade to take yourself and this place waaaaay too seriously, then yes, you're right, firmly put to bed Out of interest, what do you actually do? Block my posts, then struggle with the temptation to have just a quick peep to see if it's something to get angry about, and if so, unblock them so you can reply? If anything's a bit sad, it's that, old fruit. I think you're probably better off mentally leaving them blocked if they bother you that much. It's just a football messageboard, Voidy, try not to take it so seriously that it winds you up to the point you need to resort to name calling and abuse. I see you were getting a bit tetchy again with NicholasJAllcock the other day too. Chill out, there's no need! I think you'll find it was Nicholas who was going OTT and accusing me of- rather randomly- 'practicing evil' (which is a new one even by Oatcake standards!). The main thing I pulled Nicko up on was his ridiculous comment about Thatcher being, I quote: 'the most evil cnut who ever walked the planet' which, whether you liked her or loathed her, is a pretty ridiculous thing to say given the competition. If we'd had a member of Right Wing Club using similar vernacular regarding Jeremy Corbyn, for instance, I'm sure you'd be pulling them up on it pretty sharpish. After all, saying as you're such a crusader against abuse on The Oatie, here we had a dead woman unable to defend herself against unnecessary levels of abuse, rather than another poster who can reply back and fight their corner. Still, I'm not in the least bit surprised you ignore those comments and focus on me instead. Your faux outrage over abuse and name-calling will hold a lot more water if you applied it evenly to Left Wing Club when they're guilty of it- saying as you don't seem bothered when that happens, I can only assume you're not really that fussed about it when all said and done? Anyway, I don't want another thread to be hijacked by your argumentative nonsense, so if you insist on carrying this on, drop us a PM 😎 PS regarding your question- your posts are visible when you've been requoted by another poster, flower 😊 Except my post wasn't requoted by anyone else and yet you still managed to respond to it, oops which does rather suggest you either follow me around like a poodle as I said before, looking for stuff to get worked up about, or you do precisely as I described, and have a little peep at my blocked posts, just to check! Either way, do your mental health a favour and leave them blocked if they bother you that much. As I've said many times, anyone who finds themselves getting so wound up by others' opinions on a football forum to the point of needing to block people should probably spend more of their time doing something else, but if that approach works for you, that's entirely fair enough!
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Post by wagsastokie on Nov 2, 2020 16:36:10 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Nov 2, 2020 16:38:34 GMT
Have you give Peter Geoeghans new book a read Huddy? Not yet mate, got it on pre order. Any good?
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Nov 2, 2020 16:44:00 GMT
The problem I will have at the next election as that I am generally a fan of proportional representation as a voting system, but I know that the people decisively voted against in a 2011 referendum that was billed as a once-in-a-lifetime referendum. To avoid being an undemocratic traitor who ignores the voice of the people, I couldn't possibly vote for a party that only listens to democracy when it suits. Behave Whilst that is quite funny it’s totally different to Brexit. Half the country didn’t realise that referendum was taking place. Brexit had to happen and is a separate argument . I’ve got no problem with a referendum to rejoin takes place in a few years once out. Electoral reform covers a whole spectrum of reforms and is not limited to proportional representation. I’d rather them reform MP criteria and selection process as a start Electoral turnout doesn't change that - if all the lazy UKIP, Lib Dem and Greens voters couldn't be arsed to get out of bed to vote in 2011 that's no-one's fault but their own. To have a second referendum on the issue would undermine British democracy, and ride roughshod over the result (and a very decisive result at that) from 2011. Even asking a different question on the same subject is just an underhand way of overturning the previous result, in my opinion. The country spoke in 2011. They shouldn't have to repeat themselves.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Nov 2, 2020 16:47:00 GMT
Behave Whilst that is quite funny it’s totally different to Brexit. Half the country didn’t realise that referendum was taking place. Brexit had to happen and is a separate argument . I’ve got no problem with a referendum to rejoin takes place in a few years once out. Electoral reform covers a whole spectrum of reforms and is not limited to proportional representation. I’d rather them reform MP criteria and selection process as a start Electoral turnout doesn't change that - if all the lazy UKIP, Lib Dem and Greens voters couldn't be arsed to get out of bed to vote in 2011 that's no-one's fault but their own. To have a second referendum on the issue would undermine British democracy, and ride roughshod over the result (and a very decisive result at that) from 2011. Even asking a different question on the same subject is just an underhand way of overturning the previous result, in my opinion. The country spoke in 2011. They shouldn't have to repeat themselves. Stop it, RRP
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Nov 2, 2020 16:47:01 GMT
Have you give Peter Geoeghans new book a read Huddy? Not yet mate, got it on pre order. Any good? I expected it to be good but a bit of a slog. However not only is it good but its balanced and entertaining in its own way. You'll enjoy it. 👍
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Post by thevoid on Nov 2, 2020 16:47:14 GMT
I think you'll find it was Nicholas who was going OTT and accusing me of- rather randomly- 'practicing evil' (which is a new one even by Oatcake standards!). The main thing I pulled Nicko up on was his ridiculous comment about Thatcher being, I quote: 'the most evil cnut who ever walked the planet' which, whether you liked her or loathed her, is a pretty ridiculous thing to say given the competition. If we'd had a member of Right Wing Club using similar vernacular regarding Jeremy Corbyn, for instance, I'm sure you'd be pulling them up on it pretty sharpish. After all, saying as you're such a crusader against abuse on The Oatie, here we had a dead woman unable to defend herself against unnecessary levels of abuse, rather than another poster who can reply back and fight their corner. Still, I'm not in the least bit surprised you ignore those comments and focus on me instead. Your faux outrage over abuse and name-calling will hold a lot more water if you applied it evenly to Left Wing Club when they're guilty of it- saying as you don't seem bothered when that happens, I can only assume you're not really that fussed about it when all said and done? Anyway, I don't want another thread to be hijacked by your argumentative nonsense, so if you insist on carrying this on, drop us a PM 😎 PS regarding your question- your posts are visible when you've been requoted by another poster, flower 😊 Except my post wasn't requoted by anyone else and yet you still managed to respond to it, oops which does rather suggest you either follow me around, looking for stuff to get worked up about, or you do precisely as I described, and have a little peep at my blocked posts, just to check! Either way, do your mental health a favour and leave them blocked if they bother you that much. As I've said many times, anyone who finds themselves getting so wound up by others' opinions on a football forum to the point of needing to block people should probably spend more of their time doing something else, but if that approach works for you, that's entirely fair enough! I had a quick scroll down the thread (that's kind of how messageboards work), selected your post at random (just to see if you'd lost some of your hubris), found that some of said post contained a degree of hypocrisy and pulled you up on it, as I said I would do from time to time. This trope about me getting worked up is as nonsensical as your fixation with gangs- as you say, it's just a forum. I certainly don't log on and go foraging for your posts in particular, but clearly we're both regular posters on this side of the board so we're bound to 'rub shoulders' 😊 Anyway, I only do to you what Vokesy does to Crapslinger- find the occasional daft post by someone he finds ridiculous, pull him up on it and then move on. At least Crappy doesn't keep arguing the toss 😆
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Nov 2, 2020 16:56:33 GMT
Except my post wasn't requoted by anyone else and yet you still managed to respond to it, oops which does rather suggest you either follow me around, looking for stuff to get worked up about, or you do precisely as I described, and have a little peep at my blocked posts, just to check! Either way, do your mental health a favour and leave them blocked if they bother you that much. As I've said many times, anyone who finds themselves getting so wound up by others' opinions on a football forum to the point of needing to block people should probably spend more of their time doing something else, but if that approach works for you, that's entirely fair enough! I had a quick scroll down the thread (that's kind of how messageboards work), selected your post at random (just to see if you'd lost some of your hubris), found that some of said post contained a degree of hypocrisy and pulled you up on it, as I said that I would do from time to time. This trope about me getting worked up is as nonsensical as your fixation with gangs- as you say, it's just a forum. I certainly don't log on and go foraging for your posts in particular, but clearly we're both regular posters on this side of the board so we're bound to 'rub shoulders' 😊 Anyway, I only do to you what Vokesy does to Crapslinger- find the occasional daft post by someone he finds ridiculous, pull him up on it and then move on. At least Crappy doesn't keep arguing the toss 😆 oh, Voidy, no offence, but you're so full of it! All the regular name-calling and abuse certainly paints a picture of a very calm and balanced individual! "Selected my post at random", despite having "blocked me" and despite having indicated previously to have only seen the post because it was requoted by someone else! This makes as much sense as when you claimed you do/don't follow me around in the space of a few posts! I don't think anyone's buying this latest effort either! In all seriousness, if it bothers you that much, ignore them, leave my posts blocked and do yourself a favour!
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 2, 2020 16:59:17 GMT
Well. This is all very interesting but what about Farage... I’m interested to know peoples opinions on this new venture, has he announced anything official yet?
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Nov 2, 2020 17:01:21 GMT
Behave Whilst that is quite funny it’s totally different to Brexit. Half the country didn’t realise that referendum was taking place. Brexit had to happen and is a separate argument . I’ve got no problem with a referendum to rejoin takes place in a few years once out. Electoral reform covers a whole spectrum of reforms and is not limited to proportional representation. I’d rather them reform MP criteria and selection process as a start Electoral turnout doesn't change that - if all the lazy UKIP, Lib Dem and Greens voters couldn't be arsed to get out of bed to vote in 2011 that's no-one's fault but their own. To have a second referendum on the issue would undermine British democracy, and ride roughshod over the result (and a very decisive result at that) from 2011. Even asking a different question on the same subject is just an underhand way of overturning the previous result, in my opinion. The country spoke in 2011. They shouldn't have to repeat themselves. Actually, in all seriousness, that will be the inevitable response to Farage's efforts, if he does even bother. In much the same way that Brexit has completely undermined the Unionist's case on Scottish Independence.
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Post by Foster on Nov 2, 2020 17:07:40 GMT
Well. This is all very interesting but what about Farage... I’m interested to know peoples opinions on this new venture, has he announced anything official yet? What's he campaigning about this time? Aside from anti-lockdown? Any long term global issues on the agenda like sustainability?
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Nov 2, 2020 17:13:40 GMT
Well. This is all very interesting but what about Farage... I’m interested to know peoples opinions on this new venture, has he announced anything official yet? What's he campaigning about this time? Aside from anti-lockdown? Any long term global issues on the agenda like sustainability? He has still yet to explain why, in April this year he was berating the Conservative Government for not implementing a lockdown to save lives; to now berating the Conservative Government for implementing a lockdown to save lives. Plus, with minimal boats in the channel until next summer and with Donald of Orange being sent packing this is the next desperate grift to stay relevant. 'Please send your £25 joining fee to...'
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Post by lordb on Nov 2, 2020 17:16:12 GMT
Behave Whilst that is quite funny it’s totally different to Brexit. Half the country didn’t realise that referendum was taking place. Brexit had to happen and is a separate argument . I’ve got no problem with a referendum to rejoin takes place in a few years once out. Electoral reform covers a whole spectrum of reforms and is not limited to proportional representation. I’d rather them reform MP criteria and selection process as a start Electoral turnout doesn't change that - if all the lazy UKIP, Lib Dem and Greens voters couldn't be arsed to get out of bed to vote in 2011 that's no-one's fault but their own. To have a second referendum on the issue would undermine British democracy, and ride roughshod over the result (and a very decisive result at that) from 2011. Even asking a different question on the same subject is just an underhand way of overturning the previous result, in my opinion. The country spoke in 2011. They shouldn't have to repeat themselves. for how long? 10 years? (nearly there) 20 years? 30, 50? for ever? this is one of many reasons why referendums are shite
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Nov 2, 2020 17:21:36 GMT
Electoral turnout doesn't change that - if all the lazy UKIP, Lib Dem and Greens voters couldn't be arsed to get out of bed to vote in 2011 that's no-one's fault but their own. To have a second referendum on the issue would undermine British democracy, and ride roughshod over the result (and a very decisive result at that) from 2011. Even asking a different question on the same subject is just an underhand way of overturning the previous result, in my opinion. The country spoke in 2011. They shouldn't have to repeat themselves. for how long? 10 years? (nearly there) 20 years? 30, 50? for ever? this is one of many reasons why referendums are shite I think RRP is just taking the piss out of the Brexiteers who are behind Farage's call for electoral reform, despite there having been a referendum on just such a proposal not that long ago, when this was their argument about not having another one on Brexit...!
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 2, 2020 17:29:55 GMT
Well. This is all very interesting but what about Farage... I’m interested to know peoples opinions on this new venture, has he announced anything official yet? What's he campaigning about this time? Aside from anti-lockdown? Any long term global issues on the agenda like sustainability? I’m not sure. I’m interested to find out though because none of the main parties will be getting my vote that’s for sure.
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Post by thevoid on Nov 2, 2020 17:52:10 GMT
I had a quick scroll down the thread (that's kind of how messageboards work), selected your post at random (just to see if you'd lost some of your hubris), found that some of said post contained a degree of hypocrisy and pulled you up on it, as I said that I would do from time to time. This trope about me getting worked up is as nonsensical as your fixation with gangs- as you say, it's just a forum. I certainly don't log on and go foraging for your posts in particular, but clearly we're both regular posters on this side of the board so we're bound to 'rub shoulders' 😊 Anyway, I only do to you what Vokesy does to Crapslinger- find the occasional daft post by someone he finds ridiculous, pull him up on it and then move on. At least Crappy doesn't keep arguing the toss 😆 oh, Voidy, no offence, but you're so full of it! All the regular name-calling and abuse certainly paints a picture of a very calm and balanced individual! "Selected my post at random", despite having "blocked me" and despite having indicated previously to have only seen the post because it was requoted by someone else! This makes as much sense as when you claimed you do/don't follow me around in the space of a few posts! I don't think anyone's buying this latest effort either! In all seriousness, if it bothers you that much, ignore them, leave my posts blocked and do yourself a favour! Calm down mate, you're getting triggered. I hate playing party pooper Bluers, but I will have to insist on you going down the PM route if you want to carry this on (for your own dignity and everyone else's sanity if for nothing else!) As for no one else 'buying it', I don't think anyone else cares if I'm honest! As you keep saying, it's just an obscure footy forum. Regarding only seeing your posts when requoted, I was referring to the majority of posts written by yourself that I do read. And anyway, who cares? Chill man 😆 Oh, and I have every right to reply to your posts. It's a public forum. If you don't post hypocritical 'white noise' I have nothing to pull you up on, so the power's in your hands 👍 Anyway, I'll await your PM mate.
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Post by elystokie on Nov 2, 2020 17:56:41 GMT
oh, Voidy, no offence, but you're so full of it! All the regular name-calling and abuse certainly paints a picture of a very calm and balanced individual! "Selected my post at random", despite having "blocked me" and despite having indicated previously to have only seen the post because it was requoted by someone else! This makes as much sense as when you claimed you do/don't follow me around in the space of a few posts! I don't think anyone's buying this latest effort either! In all seriousness, if it bothers you that much, ignore them, leave my posts blocked and do yourself a favour! Calm down mate, you're getting triggered. I hate playing party pooper Bluers, but I will have to insist on you going down the PM route if you want to carry this on (for your own dignity and everyone else's sanity if for nothing else!) As for no one else 'buying it', I don't think anyone else cares if I'm honest! You want him to involve Boris? The bloke can't cope as it is without getting involved in squabbles between you two
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Post by thevoid on Nov 2, 2020 18:07:04 GMT
Electoral turnout doesn't change that - if all the lazy UKIP, Lib Dem and Greens voters couldn't be arsed to get out of bed to vote in 2011 that's no-one's fault but their own. To have a second referendum on the issue would undermine British democracy, and ride roughshod over the result (and a very decisive result at that) from 2011. Even asking a different question on the same subject is just an underhand way of overturning the previous result, in my opinion. The country spoke in 2011. They shouldn't have to repeat themselves. Actually, in all seriousness, that will be the inevitable response to Farage's efforts, if he does even bother. In much the same way that Brexit has completely undermined the Unionist's case on Scottish Independence. What made you vote SNP in the past?
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Post by The battheader chronicles on Nov 2, 2020 18:07:06 GMT
See I struggle with this one, I really try not to hate people with a difference of opinion to me politically. Farage has said in the past he favours an insurance based system of healthcare, under such a situation it’s very unlikely someone in my position would have survived. I was born 3 months early and with cerebral palsy, again under such a system we didn’t at that time have the money to keep me alive that worries me for people in that situation today This man is a danger to vulnerable people My son also has cerebral palsy , 3 months premature and spina bifida.....I think Farage is absolutely right that we should talk about funding of the NHS, rather than just say " the NHS is sacred, don't even go there"....which does seem the position of the Left. Healthcare is already rationed according to post code and NICE guidelines. With increasing demands, population growth, elderly people and their health issues and the possibilities of incredible treatments we HAVE to talk about funding in my opinion. I don't agree with Farage that we should have a total insurance based system , but I'm not sure that is the total detail of what he meant.....it's hard to convey a total coherent policy in 30 second soundbites, but it's just a dangerous and disingenuous to not to discuss funding. Farage is always going to be an easy target as he draws attention to issues that career politicians/ main political parties would prefer to avoid. I don’t really disagree with anything you’ve said there, although can you see why I’m worried 😂 As already stated it depends what he means by insurance based as it’s never something he’s expanded on in the depth required, although if it were to allow the wealthier members of society to out of NI it could mean the end of the nhs
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Nov 2, 2020 18:42:40 GMT
oh, Voidy, no offence, but you're so full of it! All the regular name-calling and abuse certainly paints a picture of a very calm and balanced individual! "Selected my post at random", despite having "blocked me" and despite having indicated previously to have only seen the post because it was requoted by someone else! This makes as much sense as when you claimed you do/don't follow me around in the space of a few posts! I don't think anyone's buying this latest effort either! In all seriousness, if it bothers you that much, ignore them, leave my posts blocked and do yourself a favour! Calm down mate, you're getting triggered. I hate playing party pooper Bluers, but I will have to insist on you going down the PM route if you want to carry this on (for your own dignity and everyone else's sanity if for nothing else!) As for no one else 'buying it', I don't think anyone else cares if I'm honest! As you keep saying, it's just an obscure footy forum. Regarding only seeing your posts when requoted, I was referring to the majority of posts written by yourself that I do read. And anyway, who cares? Chill man 😆 Oh, and I have every right to reply to your posts. It's a public forum. If you don't post hypocritical 'white noise' I have nothing to pull you up on, so the power's in your hands 👍 Anyway, I'll await your PM mate. For once, you're bob on! It is an obscure footy forum, so absolutely no need for name-calling and abuse, nor following folk around on some weird stalking crusade, nor getting so wound up you need to block people!
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Post by wagsastokie on Nov 2, 2020 18:44:26 GMT
Actually, in all seriousness, that will be the inevitable response to Farage's efforts, if he does even bother. In much the same way that Brexit has completely undermined the Unionist's case on Scottish Independence. What made you vote SNP in the past? Fetish for squawking dwarfs?
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Post by thevoid on Nov 2, 2020 19:18:55 GMT
What made you vote SNP in the past? Fetish for squawking dwarfs? No idea but when you ask them a reasonable question related to the topic they don't want to answer 🤷
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Post by thevoid on Nov 2, 2020 19:24:57 GMT
Calm down mate, you're getting triggered. I hate playing party pooper Bluers, but I will have to insist on you going down the PM route if you want to carry this on (for your own dignity and everyone else's sanity if for nothing else!) As for no one else 'buying it', I don't think anyone else cares if I'm honest! As you keep saying, it's just an obscure footy forum. Regarding only seeing your posts when requoted, I was referring to the majority of posts written by yourself that I do read. And anyway, who cares? Chill man 😆 Oh, and I have every right to reply to your posts. It's a public forum. If you don't post hypocritical 'white noise' I have nothing to pull you up on, so the power's in your hands 👍 Anyway, I'll await your PM mate. For once, you're bob on! It is an obscure footy forum, so absolutely no need for name-calling and abuse, nor following folk around on some weird stalking crusade, nor getting so wound up you need to block people! So next time one of the usual suspects from Left Wing Club is abusive, or Nicholas Allcock goes on one of his weird tangents about evil(!), you'll be sorting out your myopia and having a quick word with them- good to know Bluers. That's all I'm asking for 👍 Enjoy your night 😎
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Nov 2, 2020 19:33:26 GMT
My son also has cerebral palsy , 3 months premature and spina bifida.....I think Farage is absolutely right that we should talk about funding of the NHS, rather than just say " the NHS is sacred, don't even go there"....which does seem the position of the Left. Healthcare is already rationed according to post code and NICE guidelines. With increasing demands, population growth, elderly people and their health issues and the possibilities of incredible treatments we HAVE to talk about funding in my opinion. I don't agree with Farage that we should have a total insurance based system , but I'm not sure that is the total detail of what he meant.....it's hard to convey a total coherent policy in 30 second soundbites, but it's just a dangerous and disingenuous to not to discuss funding. Farage is always going to be an easy target as he draws attention to issues that career politicians/ main political parties would prefer to avoid. I don’t really disagree with anything you’ve said there, although can you see why I’m worried 😂 As already stated it depends what he means by insurance based as it’s never something he’s expanded on in the depth required, although if it were to allow the wealthier members of society to out of NI it could mean the end of the nhs I just think that we should debate it....but I think that you are quite right, there is a level( and I would set the bar high) of care that we must maintain in my opinion. I had a heart attack in 2017 and would not be alive without the NHS ,amazing treatment. Because the NHS is so important, and should not be taken for granted ( it isn't free, it's expensive) I think that we should cherish it. It narks me when people don't turn up for appointments or when I was in the police at Stoke, regularly going to A and E to deal with drunks, abusing staff. I'm not 100% sure exactly what Farage has in mind but I'm sure he'd never get away with trying to privatise it.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Nov 2, 2020 20:13:40 GMT
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