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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 1, 2019 21:04:42 GMT
So who we relying on as centre backs if we don’t get any in? A 17 year old whose played what? 120 mins of professional football? Indi whose an absolute fanny? Shawcross who turned up for a quarter of the season and only when carried by a proper leader next to him. Haven’t we learnt a thing from last season, the defence was gash. Start with Shawcross and Indi next season and the same issues will still be there. I suppose we can enjoy those expertly executed diagonal balls from Ryan, ya know the 1 in 100. We kept 19 clean sheets- Shawcross played in 15 of those clean sheets, some of you lot really are blind. How many for Batth?
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Post by liathroid on Jun 1, 2019 21:04:55 GMT
Micah Richards. Released by villa, not played since 2016 . Perfect. He’s been saving his legs 😎 FOR WHAT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 1, 2019 21:05:28 GMT
We kept 19 clean sheets- Shawcross played in 15 of those clean sheets, some of you lot really are blind. You are totally correct. The only question I would ask is going forwards, if the manager wants to be more expansive with the diamond, is the defence in it's current form capable of keeping the same amount of clean sheets, or does it need tweaking? Luton were notorious high scorers under Jones but also very tight defensively too. Batth isn’t the answer if that’s the case then.
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Post by mrpickles on Jun 1, 2019 21:07:52 GMT
Michael Hector is another possibility. Just won player of the season at Sheffield Wednesday, one year left on his deal and talk of a £3m fee.
Plenty of championship experience
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Post by mrcoke on Jun 1, 2019 21:14:30 GMT
We have to expect that Shawcross is not going to keep going for ever.
Indi was very good in his loan season, but has been inconsistent since we bought hin and he missed his first pre-season, and has not played CB regularly for a long time.
Collins is too young to play CB twice a week, and needs careful management.
Batth is our only dependable CB who can actually jump, but his distribution is weak.
I think it is quite logical that the club is looking for a dependable quality CB.
Maybe the are trying to persuade Chelsea to sell/loan Zouma again?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 1, 2019 21:16:49 GMT
We have to expect that Shawcross is not going to keep going for ever. Indi was very good in his loan season, but has been inconsistent since we bought hin and he missed his first pre-season, and has not played CB regularly for a long time. Collins is too young to play CB twice a week, and needs careful management. Batth is our only dependable CB who can actually jump, but his distribution is weak. I think it is quite logical that the club is looking for a dependable quality CB. Maybe the are trying to persuade Chelsea to sell/loan Zouma again? Zouma was/is awful. But his reputation will make sure he gets a good move and wouldn’t consider Championship football. Thankfully!
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Post by liathroid on Jun 1, 2019 21:20:50 GMT
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Post by lordb on Jun 1, 2019 21:22:12 GMT
We have to expect that Shawcross is not going to keep going for ever. Indi was very good in his loan season, but has been inconsistent since we bought hin and he missed his first pre-season, and has not played CB regularly for a long time. Collins is too young to play CB twice a week, and needs careful management. Batth is our only dependable CB who can actually jump, but his distribution is weak. I think it is quite logical that the club is looking for a dependable quality CB. Maybe the are trying to persuade Chelsea to sell/loan Zouma again? Zouma was/is awful. But his reputation will make sure he gets a good move and wouldn’t consider Championship football. Thankfully! They liked him at Everton
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Post by adi on Jun 1, 2019 21:23:22 GMT
Careful, you’ve not consulted chopper
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jun 1, 2019 21:24:04 GMT
We have to expect that Shawcross is not going to keep going for ever. Indi was very good in his loan season, but has been inconsistent since we bought hin and he missed his first pre-season, and has not played CB regularly for a long time. Collins is too young to play CB twice a week, and needs careful management. Batth is our only dependable CB who can actually jump, but his distribution is weak. I think it is quite logical that the club is looking for a dependable quality CB. Maybe the are trying to persuade Chelsea to sell/loan Zouma again? Zouma
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 1, 2019 21:30:10 GMT
Zouma was/is awful. But his reputation will make sure he gets a good move and wouldn’t consider Championship football. Thankfully! They liked him at Everton Really? He always looked his usual self. Braindeaded idiot with poor position who’s athleticism gets him out of pickles. Can’t stand him.
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Post by berahinosgoals on Jun 1, 2019 21:37:24 GMT
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Post by kelw on Jun 1, 2019 21:52:25 GMT
Michael Hector is another possibility. Just won player of the season at Sheffield Wednesday, one year left on his deal and talk of a £3m fee. Plenty of championship experience Does he live local? Does anyone know the location of Hector's House?
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Post by hyaduck on Jun 2, 2019 6:53:47 GMT
If we aim to have Shawcross as one of our centre backs next season we’ll get hammered, he’s like a snail who looks uncomfortable on the ball.
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Post by adi on Jun 2, 2019 7:18:23 GMT
Anything on this one chopperscfc?
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Post by clarkeda on Jun 2, 2019 7:21:11 GMT
Wouldn’t mind this at all.
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Post by somersetstokie on Jun 2, 2019 8:07:34 GMT
Jan Vertonghen from Tottenham. Absolutely distraught and inconsolable after losing out on a Champions League Winners medal and will now be looking for motivation and a new challenge. We could build a new team of ex European Champions league finalists around him and Bojan!
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 2, 2019 8:11:09 GMT
Michael Hector is another possibility. Just won player of the season at Sheffield Wednesday, one year left on his deal and talk of a £3m fee. Plenty of championship experience I think that's a good call, pickles. And maybe chuck in Clark, Kalas and Burn from Onlooker's list. If I had to guess, I'd maybe go for Hector though?
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 2, 2019 8:26:27 GMT
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Post by gingerninja on Jun 2, 2019 8:30:51 GMT
Hector would be a good start purchase wise.. young and hungry and seems like a decent sort.
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Post by gaznandi on Jun 2, 2019 8:31:52 GMT
"Premier league centre back with championship experience' so says the Sentinel. Has he played in the prem? (I confess to never having heard of him) Ah, all the rest of your post is showing now, as you were 😁
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 2, 2019 8:33:30 GMT
"Premier league centre back with championship experience' so says the Sentinel. Has he played in the prem? (I confess to never having heard of him) Well, he's contracted to Chelsea - but don't think he's ever played for them! Just been on their loan merry-go-round for 4 years.
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Post by thehoof on Jun 2, 2019 9:20:28 GMT
If we aim to have Shawcross as one of our centre backs next season we’ll get hammered, he’s like a snail who looks uncomfortable on the ball. As I said earlier, some of our fans are beyond stupid.
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Post by stokeykez on Jun 2, 2019 9:26:34 GMT
Has Gary Cahill found a home yet ??
Should try and go for lascelles from the toon, if they're about to pull the trigger on big spending cannot see him being in that team for long
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Post by hyaduck on Jun 2, 2019 9:29:08 GMT
We have different opinions, I don’t think he’s good he enough for the team, you do. There’s nowt wrong with having different opinions, nothing to do with being stupid.
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Post by realstokebloke on Jun 2, 2019 9:30:15 GMT
Yup. Hedtor is a good shout.
But is his agent really Lord Varys?
; )
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 2, 2019 9:32:11 GMT
We can't just dismiss the numbers with Shawcross in the team though - nothing indicates he's in any way a problem.
He looked as good as he's done for a while after Christmas last year.
4th best defensive record in the league over the season, improved marginally to joint 3rd just taking into account Jones' games.
And the underlying numbers support the fact that we were very good defensively. According to that XG chart, we conceded the 3rd least XG over the season which suggests it was not a fluke - and Shawcross played 36 games
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Post by DC1863 on Jun 2, 2019 9:34:09 GMT
Yup. Hedtor is a good shout.
But is his agent really Lord Varys?
; )
Can confirm.
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Post by ravey123 on Jun 2, 2019 9:53:06 GMT
Hector would be a good start purchase wise.. young and hungry and seems like a decent sort. Just looked at his playing record - bizarre really - only ever been signed to Reading (about 50 appearances) and Chelsea (0 appearances) but at 26 years old has played over 250 games out on loan for about 15 clubs. I think this lad needs to find a club to call home.
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Post by clarkeda on Jun 2, 2019 12:49:13 GMT
Has Gary Cahill found a home yet ?? Should try and go for lascelles from the toon, if they're about to pull the trigger on big spending cannot see him being in that team for long Lascelles 😂😂😂😂 Fuck me. He probably going to move up the chain not down.
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