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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 11, 2019 16:51:55 GMT
I think we’ll be looking at Bathh and Pennington to start Collins backup and Souttar 4th. I think Indi will be sold and possibly Ryan could be gone due to his injury record /wages I think could be on his way. Serious questions to ask about the club if that happens.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 11, 2019 16:53:51 GMT
I think we’ll be looking at Bathh and Pennington to start Collins backup and Souttar 4th. I think Indi will be sold and possibly Ryan could be gone due to his injury record /wages I think could be on his way. Serious questions to ask about the club if that happens. Ryan isn't going to go to the Prem and no-one else in our league could afford him. He's seeing his contract out here realistically, isn't he? And, like you, I think his injury issues are overplayed. He played 36 games last year.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jun 11, 2019 16:57:17 GMT
I think we’ll be looking at Bathh and Pennington to start Collins backup and Souttar 4th. I think Indi will be sold and possibly Ryan could be gone due to his injury record /wages I think could be on his way. Ryan Shawcross will not be leaving Stoke City fact and there’s every possibility he’ll still be captain also
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Post by LankyPotter on Jun 11, 2019 16:57:35 GMT
I think we’ll be looking at Bathh and Pennington to start Collins backup and Souttar 4th. I think Indi will be sold and possibly Ryan could be gone due to his injury record /wages I think could be on his way. Serious questions to ask about the club if that happens. Shawcross should definitely be allowed to retire at Stoke and it would very poor judgement to get rid of him but now is the time for him to be ‘phased out’ of regular first team appearances. If NJ see’s Pennington as the answer to that gap then its a worthwhile risk in my eyes.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jun 11, 2019 17:02:30 GMT
Serious questions to ask about the club if that happens. Ryan isn't going to go to the Prem and no-one else in our league could afford him. He's seeing his contract out here realistically, isn't he? And, like you, I think his injury issues are overplayed. He played 36 games last year. I can see Baath and Pennington being his first choice with Shawcross back up and BMI gone next season
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jun 11, 2019 17:05:49 GMT
Serious questions to ask about the club if that happens. Ryan isn't going to go to the Prem and no-one else in our league could afford him. He's seeing his contract out here realistically, isn't he? And, like you, I think his injury issues are overplayed. He played 36 games last year. Maybe so but I do think they’ve affected the level of his performance. Great servant though he’s been.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2019 17:07:19 GMT
I think we’ll be looking at Bathh and Pennington to start Collins backup and Souttar 4th. I think Indi will be sold and possibly Ryan could be gone due to his injury record /wages I think could be on his way. Serious questions to ask about the club if that happens. I’m sure we can rely on you to ask them.
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Post by nott1 on Jun 11, 2019 17:08:54 GMT
It's that kind of balanced, non-judgemental view that will get you ostracised on here 👍😁 I just wish that I’d of phrased the first sentence better😂But overall I’m very pleased with our business so far. HAVE!
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jun 11, 2019 17:12:02 GMT
Ryan is going nowhere and his "dodgy back" is holding up pretty fine considering its meant to be fucked.
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Post by LankyPotter on Jun 11, 2019 17:12:56 GMT
I just wish that I’d of phrased the first sentence better😂But overall I’m very pleased with our business so far. HAVE! Bore off you
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Post by LankyPotter on Jun 11, 2019 17:14:26 GMT
Ryan is going nowhere and his "dodgy back" is holding up pretty fine considering its meant to be fucked. I know what you mean but he isn’t the player that he was unfortunately and it would be grossly negligent to ignore that he will need replacing in the not to distant future.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2019 17:22:38 GMT
The defence will be fine when we have a balanced midfield.
I hope we spend our big money on the left back and defensive/holding midfielder.
This signing looks ok to me, seems to have had a good season at Ipswich
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jun 11, 2019 17:22:41 GMT
Shawcross was our best CB from February! He was outstanding. He was excellent but Baath is clearly 1st choice and Ryan is getting on now. Minimum 48 game season (easily could be 50+) we will need them all. Don't know, no one does, if Collins can be a regular but do believe he should get the chance as a starter from the off. See how he is/where we are after 8 to 10 games then take a view. This. No problem starting with Collins and Batth but not to have first team cover should either get injured or (in the case of Collins) prove not quite ready would be nuts (and I'm assuming BMI is off and Souttar is out on loan). Ryan ended the season well but started the season really badly - and contributed significantly to our poor start. I've no idea which Ryan will step out next season - and neither does anyone else. I hope he ends his days here and if he fights for and keeps his place in the side that's great. But we can't build our squad around that hope.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jun 11, 2019 17:33:29 GMT
He was excellent but Baath is clearly 1st choice and Ryan is getting on now. Minimum 48 game season (easily could be 50+) we will need them all. Don't know, no one does, if Collins can be a regular but do believe he should get the chance as a starter from the off. See how he is/where we are after 8 to 10 games then take a view. This. No problem starting with Collins and Batth but not to have first team cover should either get injured or (in the case of Collins) prove not quite ready would be nuts (and I'm assuming BMI is off and Souttar is out on loan). Ryan ended the season well but started the season really badly - and contributed significantly to our poor start. I've no idea which Ryan will step out next season - and neither does anyone else. I hope he ends his days here and if he fights for and keeps his place in the side that's great. But we can't build our squad around that hope. This
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 11, 2019 17:33:35 GMT
Serious questions to ask about the club if that happens. Ryan isn't going to go to the Prem and no-one else in our league could afford him. He's seeing his contract out here realistically, isn't he? And, like you, I think his injury issues are overplayed. He played 36 games last year. I hope so. But can you trust Jones?
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Post by robstokie on Jun 11, 2019 17:35:11 GMT
The defence will be fine when we have a balanced midfield. I hope we spend our big money on the left back and defensive/holding midfielder. This signing looks ok to me, seems to have had a good season at Ipswich That's where a lot of our problems were last season - our midfield were unable to assert themselves on opposition regularly. If we can bring in a decent holding mid and another box-to-box player, we can start taking control of games, which will lead to more chances and hopefully more goals.
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Post by shrewspotter on Jun 11, 2019 17:35:21 GMT
Sorry ,and not having a go at Gregory, I mean no goalscorer? I think Vokes will get 20 next season with Afobe, Gregory and Ince all chipping in with a few
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 11, 2019 17:36:43 GMT
Serious questions to ask about the club if that happens. Shawcross should definitely be allowed to retire at Stoke and it would very poor judgement to get rid of him but now is the time for him to be ‘phased out’ of regular first team appearances. If NJ see’s Pennington as the answer to that gap then its a worthwhile risk in my eyes. He was brilliant from February last season. He doesn’t need phasing out.
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Post by LankyPotter on Jun 11, 2019 17:46:13 GMT
Shawcross should definitely be allowed to retire at Stoke and it would very poor judgement to get rid of him but now is the time for him to be ‘phased out’ of regular first team appearances. If NJ see’s Pennington as the answer to that gap then its a worthwhile risk in my eyes. He was brilliant from February last season. He doesn’t need phasing out. Sooner or later he will do..... cannot afford for him to have the start he did last year.
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Post by stokiedan84 on Jun 11, 2019 18:04:54 GMT
A Leeds supporter I work with says Pennington is “dogshite” and nowhere near good enough. Also with him being part of a relegated teams defence it doesn’t give me much joy on this signing.
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Jun 11, 2019 18:07:31 GMT
I don't get the worry about Pennington playing in a team that got relegated, so did Robert Huth when he signed him & he turned out alright.
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Post by werrington on Jun 11, 2019 18:09:43 GMT
I don't get the worry about Pennington playing in a team that got relegated, so did Robert Huth when he signed him & he turned out alright. As did Xeridan Shaqiri He’s just won a champions league medal 12 months later
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Post by rawli on Jun 11, 2019 18:14:15 GMT
Serious questions to ask about the club if that happens. Shawcross should definitely be allowed to retire at Stoke and it would very poor judgement to get rid of him but now is the time for him to be ‘phased out’ of regular first team appearances. If NJ see’s Pennington as the answer to that gap then its a worthwhile risk in my eyes. How much is Ryan on?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 11, 2019 18:18:46 GMT
He was brilliant from February last season. He doesn’t need phasing out. Sooner or later he will do..... cannot afford for him to have the start he did last year. So you replace him with a bloke who helped his last side be the worst team in the division by quite some margin?
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Post by march4 on Jun 11, 2019 18:20:53 GMT
The signing of Pennington is one of the most unfathomable I can remember for a while.
I see no ambition in this purchase and I can’t see what he brings to the club that we don’t already have. We have two potentially good young players already at the club. Isn’t this guy simply going to hamper their progress by blocking first team opportunities.
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Post by werrington on Jun 11, 2019 18:20:59 GMT
Sooner or later he will do..... cannot afford for him to have the start he did last year. So you replace him with a bloke who helped his last side be the worst team in the division by quite some margin? Cmon Bayern football isn’t always as black and white as that is it?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 11, 2019 18:24:16 GMT
So you replace him with a bloke who helped his last side be the worst team in the division by quite some margin? Cmon Bayern football isn’t always as black and white as that is it? True and he seems ok tbh. It’s just what his signing means re Collins re Shawcross. It’s just bad. I’m sure he’ll be ok but I don’t want that, not going to lie, I don’t want to see him playing because it’ll mean something bad has happened.
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Post by wholigan71 on Jun 11, 2019 18:24:37 GMT
Ipswich player of season last year, my mate who watches ipswich regularly & knows his stuff (uefa B license) said he's quality
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 11, 2019 18:31:26 GMT
Ipswich player of season last year, my mate who watches ipswich regularly & knows his stuff (uefa B license) said he's quality Their fans like Lambert.
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Post by berahinosgoals on Jun 11, 2019 18:34:33 GMT
Don't care who leaves from our back line that has contributed a lot to our success (or lack of it) in the past 2 to 3 seasons, including the gk. 30m? Snap their arm off
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