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Post by kelw on Jun 5, 2019 15:42:15 GMT
People moan re lack of signings Player linked People look up player as never heard of him People moan re potential signing Repeat If player goes elsewhere - moan even more
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jun 5, 2019 15:45:34 GMT
www.toffeeweb.com/players/profiles/Pennington.phpCan't see any negatives to this one. If he does well he could sign permanently next summer with only a year left on his contract at that point. Edit: reading more into it, it looks like both the player and the club want a permanent move rather than a loan move.
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Post by wrighter on Jun 5, 2019 16:09:11 GMT
People moan re lack of signings Player linked People look up player as never heard of him People moan re potential signing Repeat If player goes elsewhere - moan even more Totally agree with you there
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2019 16:10:12 GMT
My wife works with his mum if that helps..... Can she play left back? She's just informed me that she's left the organisation after I text her, that's disappointing. Although Bob, friend of the family still works there in IT. I can find out if he has bags of energy and a left foot like a wand though if you like?
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jun 5, 2019 16:10:18 GMT
Hope to fuck it is Fikayo Tomori. Said he would be willing to drop into the Championship again. Why? It’s blocking the development of our own young centre backs. I'm so glad you have no influence on picking the side. The first priority of the manager is to pick a squad and a side that they believe will maximise the chance of winning games. Bringing on youngsters should be a secondary consideration at best and should not come into any thinking about squad building. It is up to the youngsters to prove they are deserving of a place in the side and should have no special treatment - it does them and the team no good to be played ahead of someone more deserving of a place in the side. BMI is probably going, Souttar looks like he's going out on loan, Shawcross is ageing and has injury issues and Collins certainly has potential but is unproven. We definitely need another first team ready centre back - not to looking would be negligent and, if Batth gets injured, could scupper any chance of a promotion push,.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2019 16:17:17 GMT
So mr Bayern you complain that Batth hoofs it you complain Shawcross hoofs it . So Pennington doesn’t and you still complain. You’re priceless .Shawcross has dodgy back. Indi on his way out so let’s rely on two young lads. Yes they will get game time but 46 games is a long slog. Complain away I don’t complain Shawcross hoofs it. He’s good on the ball. Collins is class. The club need to back him. Class based on 135 minutes of 1st Team Football?? I’ll reserve judgement until he’s played solidly for 15 consecutive games.
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Post by somersetstokie on Jun 5, 2019 16:22:50 GMT
There has been a suggestion that Stoke are holding off on announcing new signings until they can make a publicity splash by unveiling 2 or 3 new names together at the same time. If all the players that we "are close to signing" made a photo shoot appearance at the same time we would need a wide angle lens to fit them all in the picture!
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Post by Pugsley on Jun 5, 2019 16:27:30 GMT
5 loans in 5 seasons suggests after a year no fucker wants him back.
Poor with Leeds, relegated with Ipswich. Don't get it.
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Post by miltonpotter on Jun 5, 2019 16:28:45 GMT
He can’t be the first through the door...no way! Kev from westbury Park who knows everyone down the club said JJ was 100% Nathan’s first signing. Kev is never wrong!
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jun 5, 2019 16:29:34 GMT
5 loans in 5 seasons suggests after a year no fucker wants him back. Poor with Leeds, relegated with Ipswich. Don't get it. Yes but your messiah wants him also😄
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jun 5, 2019 16:30:58 GMT
5 loans in 5 seasons suggests after a year no fucker wants him back. Poor with Leeds, relegated with Ipswich. Don't get it. Being a bit harsh there
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Post by Pugsley on Jun 5, 2019 16:33:16 GMT
5 loans in 5 seasons suggests after a year no fucker wants him back. Poor with Leeds, relegated with Ipswich. Don't get it. Yes but your messiah wants him also😄 Pipe down.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jun 5, 2019 16:36:06 GMT
Yes but your messiah wants him also😄 Pipe down. Oh hello had a bad day at work 😄
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2019 16:43:31 GMT
That scouting report suggests he lacks physical presence and struggles against bigger strikers. Totally the opposite of what we need, but if Jones wants him I believe he will have clear reasons why and will wait to see how he plays
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 5, 2019 16:51:38 GMT
I don’t complain Shawcross hoofs it. He’s good on the ball. Collins is class. The club need to back him. Class based on 135 minutes of 1st Team Football?? I’ll reserve judgement until he’s played solidly for 15 consecutive games. No. It’s a judgement that I’ve had for 12 months now....
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Post by Fred Merger on Jun 5, 2019 16:53:12 GMT
Well at the end of the day, Jones will live or die by his decisions. If he starts the season poorly results wise with 6 or more signings of his choice things will start to turn against him quite quickly.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jun 5, 2019 16:56:49 GMT
Well at the end of the day, Jones will live or die by his decisions. If he starts the season poorly results wise with 6 or more signings of his choice things will start to turn against him quite quickly. They will indeed. Let's hope he knows what he's doing.
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Post by questionable on Jun 5, 2019 16:58:10 GMT
How about getting experience for one of “our” players....
Another baffling alleged signing
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Post by timbo1988 on Jun 5, 2019 17:05:20 GMT
Could he be being signed for the holding midfield role in the diamond? Jones likes a converted CB in that position.
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Post by liathroid on Jun 5, 2019 17:13:58 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2019 17:15:16 GMT
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jun 5, 2019 17:18:35 GMT
Not overly convinced Collins is good enough just yet tbh.
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Post by boydcrowder on Jun 5, 2019 17:20:21 GMT
He did pretty well in my Championship winning Plymouth team on Football Manager.
That's good enough for me.
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Post by Pugsley on Jun 5, 2019 17:27:30 GMT
He did pretty well in my Championship winning Plymouth team on Football Manager. That's good enough for me. You're one of our scouts then?
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Post by sportsman on Jun 5, 2019 17:30:07 GMT
They say with defenders, they get better with age and experience of knowing about positioning etc.
Are we seriously suggesting we play Collins from the first game to the last and hope he's tough and way above his years and can cope with a full championship season?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 5, 2019 17:33:16 GMT
Why? It’s blocking the development of our own young centre backs. I'm so glad you have no influence on picking the side. The first priority of the manager is to pick a squad and a side that they believe will maximise the chance of winning games. Bringing on youngsters should be a secondary consideration at best and should not come into any thinking about squad building. It is up to the youngsters to prove they are deserving of a place in the side and should have no special treatment - it does them and the team no good to be played ahead of someone more deserving of a place in the side. BMI is probably going, Souttar looks like he's going out on loan, Shawcross is ageing and has injury issues and Collins certainly has potential but is unproven. We definitely need another first team ready centre back - not to looking would be negligent and, if Batth gets injured, could scupper any chance of a promotion push,. The issue with English football in a nutshell.
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Post by tony1234 on Jun 5, 2019 17:33:47 GMT
Carry on collecting mid to lower Championship players, who look very much at home in those environs, is fine... so long as that’s where we are happy to finish.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 5, 2019 17:34:17 GMT
They say with defenders, they get better with age and experience of knowing about positioning etc. Are we seriously suggesting we play Collins from the first game to the last and hope he's tough and way above his years and can cope with a full championship season? Why wouldn’t you if you believe in 2/3 years time he will be playing for a Champions League team in that competition? That’s how good he is.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 5, 2019 17:36:22 GMT
They say with defenders, they get better with age and experience of knowing about positioning etc. Are we seriously suggesting we play Collins from the first game to the last and hope he's tough and way above his years and can cope with a full championship season? Why wouldn’t you if you believe in 2/3 years time he will be playing for a Champions League team in that competition? That’s how good he is. I think third choice would be the compromise - and would work great. I just can't see how 4th choice works great for him or us.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 5, 2019 17:38:33 GMT
Why wouldn’t you if you believe in 2/3 years time he will be playing for a Champions League team in that competition? That’s how good he is. I think third choice would be the compromise - and would work great. I just can't see how 4th choice works great for him or us. It doesn’t nor a loan. That’s why if that happened with Collins, this deal is one of the worst in 10 years for the club. Collins has to get games. If he doesn’t he’s wasting his time here. And if we can’t give game time to someone who can be as good as he can be then we’ve got serious problems about the culture at this football club.
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