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Post by zerps on Jul 26, 2019 18:16:35 GMT
Best signing of the summer. Now to play him. Surely he’s wank?
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Post by zerps on Jul 26, 2019 18:16:57 GMT
I’d shag the one on the right
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Post by s7oke on Jul 26, 2019 18:23:15 GMT
I’d shag the one on the right What with a dildo made of naga chilli 🌶?
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Post by robwahlmann on Jul 26, 2019 18:29:32 GMT
wheres crapslinger ? with this positive news i,d thought he,d be all over this What did you expect with that name? ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/0m0lbCuTEBzaRn6f8QaM.gif)
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 26, 2019 19:03:30 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 26, 2019 19:08:23 GMT
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 26, 2019 19:12:21 GMT
You could see in his quotes today that he's not going to be comfortable in chucking him in a lot this season. We might like it to be different - but, let's face it, it's not going to be! He's 100% behind Shawcross, Batth and Lindsay. BMI will determine whether he's 4 or 5. The interesting thing is what will we do if BMI goes - waste his season as No.4 or get him out playing a full season somewhere?
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Post by royalewithcheese on Jul 26, 2019 19:18:16 GMT
Is he related to James McClean?
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Post by werrington on Jul 26, 2019 19:41:17 GMT
Only 5 years? Why not 7? Christ To, can you get anything right? Wait until he has two bad games on the bounce “Who the fuck sanctioned giving him a 5 year deal” will be rampant on here
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 26, 2019 19:44:43 GMT
You could see in his quotes today that he's not going to be comfortable in chucking him in a lot this season. We might like it to be different - but, let's face it, it's not going to be! He's 100% behind Shawcross, Batth and Lindsay. BMI will determine whether he's 4 or 5. The interesting thing is what will we do if BMI goes - waste his season as No.4 or get him out playing a full season somewhere? Then he’s a coward, simple as!
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jul 26, 2019 20:14:43 GMT
Another great deal struck by Tony, the exact reason he needs to stay as the CEO. (And he looks dashing) With a beard or without? I think he looks more sophisticated with the beard
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Post by neddy on Jul 26, 2019 20:42:17 GMT
It’s that £750k smile lol 😂
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2019 22:01:21 GMT
Only 5 years? Why not 7? Christ To, can you get anything right? Wait until he has two bad games on the bounce “Who the fuck sanctioned giving him a 5 year deal” will be rampant on here Who's pencilled in to be the judge?
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Post by potterpaul on Jul 26, 2019 22:29:44 GMT
You could see in his quotes today that he's not going to be comfortable in chucking him in a lot this season. We might like it to be different - but, let's face it, it's not going to be! He's 100% behind Shawcross, Batth and Lindsay. BMI will determine whether he's 4 or 5. The interesting thing is what will we do if BMI goes - waste his season as No.4 or get him out playing a full season somewhere? Then he’s a coward, simple as! It is that simple, sending a player who could easily be our best CB and by all accounts receiving interest to the tune of €8m or more and we want double that before discussions begin with an improved 5 year deal, out on loan is absolutely ludicrous thinking a mad, spineless cowards way of dealing with a conundrum created by the Lindsey purchase. I've got nowt against Lindsey, seems decent in fact but totally unnecessary.
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Post by onefatcopper on Jul 26, 2019 22:59:03 GMT
Then he’s a coward, simple as! It is that simple, sending a player who could easily be our best CB and by all accounts receiving interest to the tune of €8m or more and we want double that before discussions begin with an improved 5 year deal, out on loan is absolutely ludicrous thinking a mad, spineless cowards way of dealing with a conundrum created by the Lindsey purchase. I've got nowt against Lindsey, seems decent in fact but totally unnecessary. I’m not sure it’s a conundrum created by the arrival of Lindsey, but more a conundrum of Shawcross & BMI ? But you can not seriously think that Collins would last a entire season of EFL without sustaining any long term effects on his body ? He’s just 17 and still growing ! Wasn’t one of the reasons that Shawcross has suffered such a horrendous problems with his back blamed on too much competitive football at such a young age whilst he was still growing ?
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Post by potterpaul on Jul 26, 2019 23:15:37 GMT
It is that simple, sending a player who could easily be our best CB and by all accounts receiving interest to the tune of €8m or more and we want double that before discussions begin with an improved 5 year deal, out on loan is absolutely ludicrous thinking a mad, spineless cowards way of dealing with a conundrum created by the Lindsey purchase. I've got nowt against Lindsey, seems decent in fact but totally unnecessary. I’m not sure it’s a conundrum created by the arrival of Lindsey, but more a conundrum of Shawcross & BMI ? But you can not seriously think that Collins would last a entire season of EFL without sustaining any long term effects on his body ? He’s just 17 and still growing ! Wasn’t one of the reasons that Shawcross has suffered such a horrendous problems with his back blamed on too much competitive football at such a young age whilst he was still growing ? Please let me know where we intend to loan him? He will have to play a majority of games if he goes on loan to any EFL team. Darren Fletcher believes he is PL ready even at ManU level, I'm not claiming that I'm saying he is good enough to be the number 1 CB at a mid table Championship club.
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Post by stokecitytalke on Jul 26, 2019 23:41:56 GMT
Wait until he has two bad games on the bounce “Who the fuck sanctioned giving him a 5 year deal” will be rampant on here Who's pencilled in to be the judge? The kangaroo.
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Post by werrington on Jul 27, 2019 4:55:04 GMT
Wait until he has two bad games on the bounce “Who the fuck sanctioned giving him a 5 year deal” will be rampant on here Who's pencilled in to be the judge? With a kangaroo court there’s no need for a judge mate
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Post by onefatcopper on Jul 27, 2019 6:25:59 GMT
I’m not sure it’s a conundrum created by the arrival of Lindsey, but more a conundrum of Shawcross & BMI ? But you can not seriously think that Collins would last a entire season of EFL without sustaining any long term effects on his body ? He’s just 17 and still growing ! Wasn’t one of the reasons that Shawcross has suffered such a horrendous problems with his back blamed on too much competitive football at such a young age whilst he was still growing ? Please let me know where we intend to loan him? He will have to play a majority of games if he goes on loan to any EFL team. Darren Fletcher believes he is PL ready even at ManU level, I'm not claiming that I'm saying he is good enough to be the number 1 CB at a mid table Championship club. I don’t want him loaned out to any club in any division, I just don’t want to put undue pressure on a 17 year old kid, either physically or mentally ! Nathan is once in a generation find for Stoke and I want to enjoy watching him Progress in a controlled way.
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Post by DC1863 on Jul 27, 2019 17:05:48 GMT
With Ryan out and Lindsey suspended surely the lad will get the nod over BMI for the opener now?
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Post by clarkeda on Jul 28, 2019 6:08:35 GMT
With Ryan out and Lindsey suspended surely the lad will get the nod over BMI for the opener now? I reckon so.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 28, 2019 7:24:08 GMT
Amazing how that Shawcross injury has changed things for him.
A loan is completely off the table now, and he could well be third choice going forward, depending on BMI's future, which is where I thought he should have been anyway.
If BMI is still here, interesting decision about who starts the season next week. BMI's left-footedness could give him the edge.
If BMI doesn't start in Lindsay's absence, there's no point him being here, and he's going to think the same - as if a season as back-up in the Championship isn't depressing enough for him to contemplate.
If (big if), there is anything in the BMI departure talk, it'll be very interesting to see who we look to add to the centre-back pool, and where they slot into the pecking order in relation to Collins.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 28, 2019 7:27:32 GMT
Would recalling Souttar be out of the question?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2019 7:32:29 GMT
Amazing how that Shawcross injury has changed things for him. A loan is completely off the table now, and he could well be third choice going forward, depending on BMI's future, which is where I thought he should have been anyway. If BMI is still here, interesting decision about who starts the season next week. BMI's left-footedness could give him the edge. If BMI doesn't start in Lindsay's absence, there's no point him being here, and he's going to think the same - as if a season as back-up in the Championship isn't depressing enough for him to contemplate. If (big if), there is anything in the BMI departure talk, it'll be very interesting to see who we look to add to the centre-back pool, and where they slot into the pecking order in relation to Collins. Collins is now second choice behind Baath, with Lindsay first choice left sided centre half, if my interpretation of how the manager wants two players for each position is correct. Baath Lindsay Collins BMI
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 28, 2019 7:39:17 GMT
Amazing how that Shawcross injury has changed things for him. A loan is completely off the table now, and he could well be third choice going forward, depending on BMI's future, which is where I thought he should have been anyway. If BMI is still here, interesting decision about who starts the season next week. BMI's left-footedness could give him the edge. If BMI doesn't start in Lindsay's absence, there's no point him being here, and he's going to think the same - as if a season as back-up in the Championship isn't depressing enough for him to contemplate. If (big if), there is anything in the BMI departure talk, it'll be very interesting to see who we look to add to the centre-back pool, and where they slot into the pecking order in relation to Collins. Collins is now second choice behind Baath, with Lindsay first choice left sided centre half, if my interpretation of how the manager wants two players for each position is correct. Baath Lindsay Collins BMI He certainly seemed to target Lindsay as a left-footer. And in Shawcross' absence, we'll soon see if the pecking order is now as clear-cut as Batth/Collins for the right and Lindsay/BMI for the left. I still wouldn't be shocked if we didn't take the option to move BMI on if the opportunity really is there (for all we know the Turkish reports are the usual fantasy stuff they peddle) He seems a good pro, but doesn't really want to be here, especially if he's not first-choice. He'll be on very, very good money to be a back-up Championship defender. There may be someone on 'the list' who could come in who'd take more happily to being a back-up player for us, on significantly lower wages?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2019 7:44:36 GMT
Collins is now second choice behind Baath, with Lindsay first choice left sided centre half, if my interpretation of how the manager wants two players for each position is correct. Baath Lindsay Collins BMI He certainly seemed to target Lindsay as a left-footer. And in Shawcross' absence, we'll soon see if the pecking order is now as clear-cut as Batth/Collins for the right and Lindsay/BMI for the left. I still wouldn't be shocked if we didn't take the option to move BMI on if the opportunity really is there (for all we know the Turkish reports are the usual fantasy stuff they peddle) He seems a good pro, but doesn't really want to be here, especially if he's not first-choice. He'll be on very, very good money to be a back-up Championship defender. There may be someone on 'the list' who could come in who'd take more happily to being a back-up player for us, on significantly lower wages? Originally I wondered if we'd move BMI on and just leave the existing options there (Shawcross, Baath, Collins, Lindsay) and use the BMI money for another DM or put towards another forward. Obviously this changes things if my guess was right. As for BMI, i'd move him on regardless and would have done last January after he admitted it took him nearly half a season to get his head around playing for us in the Championship. Either he doesn't want to be here, or he's a bit slow on the uptake - or both! Regardless, we don't need characters like that here. Compare that to Butland who took a voluntary pay cut!
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Post by werrington on Jul 28, 2019 7:54:47 GMT
Would recalling Souttar be out of the question? We can’t now
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jul 28, 2019 7:59:00 GMT
He certainly seemed to target Lindsay as a left-footer. And in Shawcross' absence, we'll soon see if the pecking order is now as clear-cut as Batth/Collins for the right and Lindsay/BMI for the left. I still wouldn't be shocked if we didn't take the option to move BMI on if the opportunity really is there (for all we know the Turkish reports are the usual fantasy stuff they peddle) He seems a good pro, but doesn't really want to be here, especially if he's not first-choice. He'll be on very, very good money to be a back-up Championship defender. There may be someone on 'the list' who could come in who'd take more happily to being a back-up player for us, on significantly lower wages? Originally I wondered if we'd move BMI on and just leave the existing options there (Shawcross, Baath, Collins, Lindsay) and use the BMI money for another DM or put towards another forward. Obviously this changes things if my guess was right. As for BMI, i'd move him on regardless and would have done last January after he admitted it took him nearly half a season to get his head around playing for us in the Championship. Either he doesn't want to be here, or he's a bit slow on the uptake - or both! Regardless, we don't need characters like that here. Compare that to Butland who took a voluntary pay cut! When did Butland take voluntery pay cut?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2019 8:02:19 GMT
Originally I wondered if we'd move BMI on and just leave the existing options there (Shawcross, Baath, Collins, Lindsay) and use the BMI money for another DM or put towards another forward. Obviously this changes things if my guess was right. As for BMI, i'd move him on regardless and would have done last January after he admitted it took him nearly half a season to get his head around playing for us in the Championship. Either he doesn't want to be here, or he's a bit slow on the uptake - or both! Regardless, we don't need characters like that here. Compare that to Butland who took a voluntary pay cut! When did Butland take voluntery pay cut? Someone put a link up on here last season.
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Post by berahinosgoals on Jul 28, 2019 8:06:43 GMT
Originally I wondered if we'd move BMI on and just leave the existing options there (Shawcross, Baath, Collins, Lindsay) and use the BMI money for another DM or put towards another forward. Obviously this changes things if my guess was right. As for BMI, i'd move him on regardless and would have done last January after he admitted it took him nearly half a season to get his head around playing for us in the Championship. Either he doesn't want to be here, or he's a bit slow on the uptake - or both! Regardless, we don't need characters like that here. Compare that to Butland who took a voluntary pay cut! When did Butland take voluntery pay cut? I think the story is he had a relegation wage reduction in his premiership contract and instead of insisting on a new one upon relegation to keep him at the club he went with it
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