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Post by prestwichpotter on Dec 17, 2020 13:31:04 GMT
Despite being pretty rubbish if they win their two games in hand against Sheff Utd and Villa and they're second in the league, funny old game.....
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Post by robwahlmann on Dec 17, 2020 13:36:04 GMT
Despite being pretty rubbish if they win their two games in hand against Sheff Utd and Villa and they're second in the league, funny old game..... Maybe not that bad after all....?
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Post by prestwichpotter on Dec 17, 2020 13:37:33 GMT
Despite being pretty rubbish if they win their two games in hand against Sheff Utd and Villa and they're second in the league, funny old game..... Maybe not that bad after all....? I think it's a reflection on the quality of this season's Premier League to be honest.......
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Post by robwahlmann on Dec 17, 2020 13:40:47 GMT
Maybe not that bad after all....? I think it's a reflection on the quality of this season's Premier League to be honest....... OK, but still United haven't been challenging for the top spot for some time now!
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Post by BristolMick on Dec 17, 2020 13:40:48 GMT
Its just general football discussion. so just gave my opinion Sorry Alsager, that wasn't aimed at you. I was just seeking to dismiss the whole thread as being way beyond my personal area of interest. As long as we are in a different division I can enjoy not having the think about United at all. Agree and also no club has a monopoly on the name ‘United’ so can everyone please stop pampering to the egos of the millions of glory hunting cunts who support Manchester for no other fucking reason than glamour and glory? BM
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Post by prestwichpotter on Dec 17, 2020 14:19:14 GMT
I think it's a reflection on the quality of this season's Premier League to be honest....... OK, but still United haven't been challenging for the top spot for some time now! Ok, what's your point sorry?
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Post by robwahlmann on Dec 17, 2020 17:15:14 GMT
OK, but still United haven't been challenging for the top spot for some time now! Ok, what's your point sorry? That despite all the critisism Solskjær gets he isn't really doing too badly! Nothing more, nothing less!
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Post by prestwichpotter on Dec 17, 2020 17:18:33 GMT
Ok, what's your point sorry? That despite all the critisism Solskjær gets he isn't really doing too badly! Nothing more, nothing less! Ah right fair enough. He's definitely doing "ok" I just wonder whether "ok" is enough for a club of Man Utd's stature. I hope he relegates them and they slide into into oblivion don't get me wrong but if I was a fan I'd be wanting them to get rid and bring in Pochettino whilst he was available......
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Dec 17, 2020 17:22:35 GMT
Sorry Alsager, that wasn't aimed at you. I was just seeking to dismiss the whole thread as being way beyond my personal area of interest. As long as we are in a different division I can enjoy not having the think about United at all. Agree and also no club has a monopoly on the name ‘United’ so can everyone please stop pampering to the egos of the millions of glory hunting cunts who support Manchester for no other fucking reason than glamour and glory? BM You must mention this more often mate, and then we might take note
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Post by alsagerstokie on Dec 17, 2020 18:53:46 GMT
Its just general football discussion. so just gave my opinion Sorry Alsager, that wasn't aimed at you. I was just seeking to dismiss the whole thread as being way beyond my personal area of interest. As long as we are in a different division I can enjoy not having to think about United at all. My problem is. As a kid when I grew up I was taken to Stoke and that was it. I wouldn't have it any other way. Atleast 5 or 6 of my friends all went down the United route because they basically were dominant. So I now love it to see them in a bad place. Some of our fans would say beating Vale is more important than anything or They may say they hate Arsenal most. For me I couldn't be more satisfied if Stoke won against Man U. I did also go to OT in the Prem years about 4 seasons in a row and had to watch us loose 4 times. I'd love us to win at their place. I agree with gawa on Solskjaer It's the Glazers and Woodward that are the main problem.
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Post by robwahlmann on Dec 17, 2020 19:46:27 GMT
That despite all the critisism Solskjær gets he isn't really doing too badly! Nothing more, nothing less! Ah right fair enough. He's definitely doing "ok" I just wonder whether "ok" is enough for a club of Man Utd's stature. I hope he relegates them and they slide into into oblivion don't get me wrong but if I was a fan I'd be wanting them to get rid and bring in Pochettino whilst he was available...... Solskjær seems to have a good standing among their supporters, but a class act like Pochetino will certainly be the choice for a lot of their supporters as well.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Dec 17, 2020 20:58:08 GMT
Best manager the Shit have ever had. For a none Shit supporter that is.
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Post by alsagerstokie on Dec 17, 2020 21:01:47 GMT
Thing Is tho is it Solskjaer. Look at Moyes Van Gaal Mourinho. It's the board.
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Post by StaffordPotter on Dec 18, 2020 5:17:21 GMT
Thing Is tho is it Solskjaer. Look at Moyes Van Gaal Mourinho. It's the board. It goes to show they arent running it aa a football club, it's a business now.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 18, 2020 9:24:20 GMT
Thing Is tho is it Solskjaer. Look at Moyes Van Gaal Mourinho. It's the board. None of those managers did a good job either though. Yes Woodward is shocking and a big hindrance, but all those managers failed too.
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Post by alsagerstokie on Dec 18, 2020 17:17:56 GMT
Thing Is tho is it Solskjaer. Look at Moyes Van Gaal Mourinho. It's the board. None of those managers did a good job either though. Yes Woodward is shocking and a big hindrance, but all those managers failed too. So yes they all failed. Mourinho rarley fails so it shows you that things are so wrong up above that it won't work on the Pitch. Moyes for me wasn't given enough time.
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Post by somersetstokie on Dec 18, 2020 18:00:21 GMT
I think a lot of the malaise is down to internal politics and squad friction. Especially when you get stuck with lazy mercenaries such as Pogba, and before him Sanchez. Pogba is Utd's version of Imbula. All of these prats are paid way too much and are given little incentive to perform.
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Post by alsagerstokie on Dec 18, 2020 19:03:28 GMT
I think a lot of the malaise is down to internal politics and squad friction. Especially when you get stuck with lazy mercenaries such as Pogba, and before him Sanchez. Pogba is Utd's version of Imbula. All of these prats are paid way too much and are given little incentive to perform. Would we agree Ozil is also in this category. He's prob worse than Pogba (not Imbula) not even playing.
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Post by somersetstokie on Dec 19, 2020 0:18:00 GMT
Yes, certainly Pogba, Ozil and a few others. Many teams have their under performing (or non contributing) overpaid deadweight. Its staggering the difference in reality between the top salaried footballers earning more than in a week than the average citizen does in a year or sometimes 2.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2020 0:30:26 GMT
None of those managers did a good job either though. Yes Woodward is shocking and a big hindrance, but all those managers failed too. So yes they all failed. Mourinho rarley fails so it shows you that things are so wrong up above that it won't work on the Pitch. Moyes for me wasn't given enough time. Did he fail? Won trophies and came 2nd. Maybe they expected too much
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Post by a on Dec 19, 2020 10:39:14 GMT
Ok, what's your point sorry? That despite all the critisism Solskjær gets he isn't really doing too badly! Nothing more, nothing less! He’s come back from losing positions on an incredible number of times. Fair play for doing that but Manchester United should be in front rather than chasing games. I don’t think he’ll be there for much longer and it might be a bit unfair but Manchester United fans expect more than chasing games.
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Post by robwahlmann on Dec 19, 2020 10:49:22 GMT
That despite all the critisism Solskjær gets he isn't really doing too badly! Nothing more, nothing less! He’s come back from losing positions on an incredible number of times. Fair play for doing that but Manchester United should be in front rather than chasing games. I don’t think he’ll be there for much longer and it might be a bit unfair but Manchester United fans expect more than chasing games. Anyway, when he first came in United were at least 10 points adrift from reaching top 4, but he made it. This season if they win the game in hand they will go second, just two points behind Lpool. I really struggle to see why he is criticised so much as it's very clear to me he is taking them in the right direction. Of course there will be small set backs on the way, but in a longer perspective he has almost done wonders if you ask me!
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 19, 2020 11:07:28 GMT
None of those managers did a good job either though. Yes Woodward is shocking and a big hindrance, but all those managers failed too. So yes they all failed. Mourinho rarley fails so it shows you that things are so wrong up above that it won't work on the Pitch. Moyes for me wasn't given enough time. Moyes was miles and miles out of his depth. He was having Rio Ferdinand watch videos of Phil Jagielka and instructing his players to do nothing but cross the ball into Fulham's box where 6 ft 7 Dan Burn effortlessly headed it away. His big signing for 27 million pounds was Marouane Fellaini. With the right circumstances he's a very good upper mid table manager but not a top level one. Mourinho had already started to go sour at Chelsea before he went to Man United and he was just a bad fit for the club. His methods were never going to work there long-term.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 19, 2020 11:09:15 GMT
So yes they all failed. Mourinho rarley fails so it shows you that things are so wrong up above that it won't work on the Pitch. Moyes for me wasn't given enough time. Did he fail? Won trophies and came 2nd. Maybe they expected too much 19 points off the top though. They weren't in any danger of winning it. And when you look at what he spent and who he spent it on...
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Post by a on Dec 19, 2020 12:30:07 GMT
He’s come back from losing positions on an incredible number of times. Fair play for doing that but Manchester United should be in front rather than chasing games. I don’t think he’ll be there for much longer and it might be a bit unfair but Manchester United fans expect more than chasing games. Anyway, when he first came in United were at least 10 points adrift from reaching top 4, but he made it. This season if they win the game in hand they will go second, just two points behind Lpool. I really struggle to see why he is criticised so much as it's very clear to me he is taking them in the right direction. Of course there will be small set backs on the way, but in a longer perspective he has almost done wonders if you ask me! I know. I didn’t realise how much they were in contention points wise. Mad really considering how much grief he’s getting. Still though I think he’s out of his depth and I think he’ll be replaced in the summer
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Post by robwahlmann on Dec 20, 2020 18:46:47 GMT
Now third with one game in hand! Think his winning percentage now is around 55.5, just Mourhino has a better winning percentage after Ferguson.
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Post by nonameface on Dec 20, 2020 18:52:17 GMT
Now third with one game in hand! Think his winning percentage now is around 55.5, just Mourhino has a better winning percentage after Ferguson. Ferguson has made it near on impossible for any manager to be seen as successful there...
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Post by robwahlmann on Dec 20, 2020 19:12:45 GMT
Now third with one game in hand! Think his winning percentage now is around 55.5, just Mourhino has a better winning percentage after Ferguson. Ferguson has made it near on impossible for any manager to be seen as successful there... That's certainly true, and every time United lose a game a lot of experts are shouting for Solskjær's head, but in fact he has done really well. Maybe starting to see a team able to challenge Lpool for the title now, but time will tell! Think he needs another quality central defender and maybe another defensive anchor in midfield to go all the way though.
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Post by a on Dec 20, 2020 19:13:57 GMT
Now third with one game in hand! Think his winning percentage now is around 55.5, just Mourhino has a better winning percentage after Ferguson. Is he second in terms of champs league performances too?
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Post by robwahlmann on Dec 20, 2020 19:23:57 GMT
Now third with one game in hand! Think his winning percentage now is around 55.5, just Mourhino has a better winning percentage after Ferguson. Is he second in terms of champs league performances too? I don't know, just read about the winning percentage in a Norwegian newspaper today.
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