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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2020 21:32:31 GMT
Well, sort of. Themselves, PSG and Leipzeig are all tied on 9 points. If they were to lose their next game (away from home against Leipzeig) and barring a weird result where PSG lose to some shit Turkish team, they'd be knocked out of the Champ's League. That's fair. I am running on the assumption that they should beat Leipzig given the thrashing they handed out at Old Trafford. But nothing is over until its over and its quite possible that they head into the Europa League tonight. Well, I was wrong!
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Post by alsagerstokie on Dec 8, 2020 21:53:06 GMT
That's fair. I am running on the assumption that they should beat Leipzig given the thrashing they handed out at Old Trafford. But nothing is over until its over and its quite possible that they head into the Europa League tonight. Well, I was wrong! And glad you were I bet.
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Post by Northy on Dec 8, 2020 21:54:25 GMT
That's fair. I am running on the assumption that they should beat Leipzig given the thrashing they handed out at Old Trafford. But nothing is over until its over and its quite possible that they head into the Europa League tonight. Well, I was wrong! I watched the first half, they were shit, Leipzig had one chalked off for offside Watching Barcelona v Juventus 2nd half
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Post by liathroid on Dec 8, 2020 22:03:32 GMT
MAN UTD OUT
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Post by alsagerstokie on Dec 13, 2020 9:13:53 GMT
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Post by moon on Dec 14, 2020 8:59:57 GMT
Pogba has never given close to 100% on anything other than his appearance, to be fair he has had one decent season in the Premier League but he hasn't come close to justifying the world record fee of €105 million at the time, he doesn't have the right attitude to succeed in the Premier League. From a technical point of view he has everything, it's the mental side that lets him down. Yes he has a world cup win to his name, but he's going to struggle to win anything of importance at Man Utd. I think they bought him as the main man they could build a team around but he hasn't been up to the task, and he hasn't looked like he actually wanted to be there.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Dec 14, 2020 11:03:14 GMT
How is this guy still in a job?
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Dec 14, 2020 11:05:39 GMT
How is this guy still in a job? Keeps getting scrawpy wins just in the nick of time. Hope he stays, he’s wank
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Post by dutchstokie on Dec 14, 2020 14:23:17 GMT
Before anyone can believe it, they will have to decipher it......whats he jawing on about exactly?
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Post by alsagerstokie on Dec 14, 2020 22:18:42 GMT
Before anyone can believe it, they will have to decipher it......whats he jawing on about exactly? I think he's trying to say Gary Neville Roy Keane shut the fuck up you haven't got any idea. It's obv to anyone they need to fuck him off. Only thing is why would Barca Madrid want him.
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Post by RF10 on Dec 14, 2020 23:28:04 GMT
Before anyone can believe it, they will have to decipher it......whats he jawing on about exactly? I think he's trying to say Gary Neville Roy Keane shut the fuck up you haven't got any idea. It's obv to anyone they need to fuck him off. Only thing is why would Barca Madrid want him. He's been outstanding in the French team, at Juventus and when he first arrived at Man Utd. He's got the ability.
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Post by 1982stokie on Dec 14, 2020 23:40:53 GMT
I think he's trying to say Gary Neville Roy Keane shut the fuck up you haven't got any idea. It's obv to anyone they need to fuck him off. Only thing is why would Barca Madrid want him. He's been outstanding in the French team, at Juventus and when he first arrived at Man Utd. He's got the ability. I always think he is good if the team is doing well, then he turns it on, he doesn’t seem to be someone that can lead from the front and inspire his team mates, when the team is struggling he will disappear
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Post by somersetstokie on Dec 15, 2020 0:43:35 GMT
Before anyone can believe it, they will have to decipher it......whats he jawing on about exactly? "I is available to any Club that is prepared to pay me a huge salary."
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Post by alsagerstokie on Dec 15, 2020 8:29:06 GMT
I think he's trying to say Gary Neville Roy Keane shut the fuck up you haven't got any idea. It's obv to anyone they need to fuck him off. Only thing is why would Barca Madrid want him. He's been outstanding in the French team, at Juventus and when he first arrived at Man Utd. He's got the ability. I fully agree with what Roy Keane said tho. Its all good having the ability. If you have no desire and work rate tho and effort. its pointless.
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Post by StaffordPotter on Dec 15, 2020 17:33:37 GMT
It truly is wonderful to have watched Man Utd go down the shitter these last few years. Really goes to show how much Fergie kept a steady ship from top to bottom.
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Post by RF10 on Dec 15, 2020 18:13:50 GMT
He's been outstanding in the French team, at Juventus and when he first arrived at Man Utd. He's got the ability. I fully agree with what Roy Keane said tho. Its all good having the ability. If you have no desire and work rate tho and effort. its pointless. Isn't that up to the manager though to get best out of him?
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Post by wazbagsbro on Dec 15, 2020 18:21:33 GMT
He is no Stephen 'the fonz ' Nzonzi that's a fact
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Post by alsagerstokie on Dec 15, 2020 19:52:47 GMT
I fully agree with what Roy Keane said tho. Its all good having the ability. If you have no desire and work rate tho and effort. its pointless. Isn't that up to the manager though to get best out of him? Na that's bollox. A manger can set everything out in training. He won't get half way through a game tho and say it's ok I've said to Pogba in training when it comes to sat just walk round.
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Post by RF10 on Dec 15, 2020 20:00:19 GMT
Isn't that up to the manager though to get best out of him? Na that's bollox. A manger can set everything out in training. He won't get half way through a game tho and say it's ok I've said to Pogba in training when it comes to sat just walk round. I feel it's a combination. Lack of motivation from the manager and the player.
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Post by alsagerstokie on Dec 15, 2020 21:45:24 GMT
Na that's bollox. A manger can set everything out in training. He won't get half way through a game tho and say it's ok I've said to Pogba in training when it comes to sat just walk round. I feel it's a combination. Lack of motivation from the manager and the player. Don't get me wrong. I've spoken to a couple of mates who are United fans who from one game to next. Don't know what formation they will play or who's playing which Solskjaer needs to get settled sooner rather than later. Pogba tho not worth hassall get rid.
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Post by RF10 on Dec 15, 2020 21:55:08 GMT
I feel it's a combination. Lack of motivation from the manager and the player. Don't get me wrong. I've spoken to a couple of mates who are United fans who from one game to next. Don't know what formation they will play or who's playing which Solskjaer needs to get settled sooner rather than later. Pogba tho not worth hassall get rid. I agree with the get rid but there's still no doubt of his ability and Man Utd have failed to get him playing to his best, whether that's the manager, tactics or even his behind the scenes personal management.
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Post by alsagerstokie on Dec 15, 2020 22:18:00 GMT
Don't get me wrong. I've spoken to a couple of mates who are United fans who from one game to next. Don't know what formation they will play or who's playing which Solskjaer needs to get settled sooner rather than later. Pogba tho not worth hassall get rid. I agree with the get rid but there's still no doubt of his ability and Man Utd have failed to get him playing to his best, whether that's the manager, tactics or even his behind the scenes personal management. The problem Solskjaer has he's what 2 years into the job now. He's still scrambling around with Formations. Picking diffrent players each week. (I get told alot of this from my mates who are United fans) He seems to only to be able to trust Fernandes to perform on a consist basis (fair play he seems a very good player). He's got what 7 months left of season if by then he still doesn't know whats what he may have to be shown the door.(Woodward should go first).
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Post by RF10 on Dec 15, 2020 22:21:10 GMT
I agree with the get rid but there's still no doubt of his ability and Man Utd have failed to get him playing to his best, whether that's the manager, tactics or even his behind the scenes personal management. The problem Solskjaer has he's what 2 years into the job now. He's still scrambling around with Formations. Picking diffrent players each week. (I get told alot of this from my mates who are United fans) He seems to only to be able to trust Fernandes to perform on a consist basis (fair play he seems a very good player). He's got what 7 months left of season if by then he still doesn't know whats what he may have to be shown the door.(Woodward should go first). Man Utd have a plenty good enough squad to be in the top 4. You put Klopp with them players and they are well up there. Exactly my point re Pogba the manager is not getting the best out of him or the rest of his players. EDIT: AND I LOVE IT
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Post by alsagerstokie on Dec 15, 2020 22:50:57 GMT
The problem Solskjaer has he's what 2 years into the job now. He's still scrambling around with Formations. Picking diffrent players each week. (I get told alot of this from my mates who are United fans) He seems to only to be able to trust Fernandes to perform on a consist basis (fair play he seems a very good player). He's got what 7 months left of season if by then he still doesn't know whats what he may have to be shown the door.(Woodward should go first). Man Utd have a plenty good enough squad to be in the top 4. You put Klopp with them players and they are well up there. Exactly my point re Pogba the manager is not getting the best out of him or the rest of his players. EDIT: AND I LOVE IT Its great what's happening However i'll select a few tho. Dea Gea. Prob needs move on (can't fault what he's done last few seasons) Wan Bisaka. Young but not playing well. Linderloff Average Maguire. Leicester had United's pants down. No where near 80m Shaw. Average Fred Average McTominay. Okish Matic or Mata past best. Martial nowhere near what he promised. Fenandes. Excellent. Rashford Excellent. Greenwood young. I don't think they have a squad good enough for top 4 no. 2 for me out of them should be in a top 4 side.
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Post by somersetstokie on Dec 16, 2020 1:06:35 GMT
Who cares!
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Post by Dr Hesham on Dec 16, 2020 2:58:46 GMT
Could Sheffield players save their coach job and end this man job? it is ridiculous he is still there.
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Post by claymore on Dec 16, 2020 10:30:52 GMT
Before anyone can believe it, they will have to decipher it......whats he jawing on about exactly? I think he's trying to say Gary Neville Roy Keane shut the fuck up you haven't got any idea. It's obv to anyone they need to fuck him off. Only thing is why would Barca Madrid want him. He's an arrogant cnut, why would anyone want that tosser and at that price ?.
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Post by alsagerstokie on Dec 16, 2020 13:13:52 GMT
Its just general football discussion. so just gave my opinion
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Post by somersetstokie on Dec 17, 2020 12:40:48 GMT
Its just general football discussion. so just gave my opinion Sorry Alsager, that wasn't aimed at you. I was just seeking to dismiss the whole thread as being way beyond my personal area of interest. As long as we are in a different division I can enjoy not having to think about United at all.
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Post by gawa on Dec 17, 2020 13:19:35 GMT
I don't really blame solksjaer at all for the problems at United whether he's up to the job or not. There have been a lot more successful managers who have came in and done a similar standard of job (Moyes, LVG and JM).
There are alot of baffling decisions which are still going on in the background which no manager is accountable for. The sanchez deal, handling of pogba, business in transfer market, some of the contract extensions in recent years (DDG, Jones and Lingard to name a few).
United had a very good end to the season last year and I believe they've maybe picked up more points than any side other than Liverpool in the calendar year.
While other clubs strengthened in the summer I don't think Man U made any signings which strengthen the starting XI. I don't think VDB was a solksjaer signing either as no space for him in starting XI. And with all the signings on deadline day it could be argued those were impulse buys after failing to sign any of the main targets.
So while I agree that solksjaer isn't necessarily qualified enough for the job and it probably is too big for him. I don't think any manager will be able to live up to their potebtial while Woodward and the Glazers are still there.
Also Fred has been excellent for Utd over these last 2 seasons. First name on the teamsheet after Fernandes in my opinion
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