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Post by numpty40 on Feb 17, 2019 18:58:50 GMT
If that's the case why didn't Jones pull him aside, and said, "Look, Boj, you're a beautiful boy, but I looked at you for 60 seconds, and I've decided you're not good enough to play in my team, which will be storming up the league any minute now. I think it's in your best interests as well as the club's, if you piss off to another club, preferably in the far east, so we don't have to suffer watching you scoring goals every week." Last time I checked I’m not Nathan Jones. However it seems he’s got the same opinions of the previous managers and of those who have taken him on loan This reference to previous managers failing to pick Bojan always makes me smile. Not a one of them is successful. One is managing the team rooted at the bottom of the Championship, the other 4 are currently out of work The only manager who consistently picked him was Pep
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Feb 17, 2019 18:59:18 GMT
Nothing changes till scholes and carto go. The sooner everyone accepts this fact the sooner we get to sorting this problem out. Hopefully we do so before we are playing 3rd tier football cos that's where we are heading.
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Post by sealion100 on Feb 17, 2019 19:09:26 GMT
GET SCHOLES AND CARTWRIGHT OUT OF MY FUCKIN CLUB NOW!!!! ..... there will be serious trouble come the end of this season
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Post by BuckRogers on Feb 17, 2019 19:11:27 GMT
I'm more worried about next season, what kind of players are we going to attract?. I'm guessing a lot of journey men , who are going to replace butland, Allen etc. The way its going we could end up going back to how we were in the 80s😩
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 19:15:36 GMT
I'm more worried about next season, what kind of players are we going to attract?. I'm guessing a lot of journey men , who are going to replace butland, Allen etc. The way its going we could end up going back to how we were in the 80s😩 No-one in their right mind would come. At least not someone who cares about their career. Stoke City - the club where careers come to prematurely die. I wish Bojan had never come here. Just imagine what he could have had had he gone elsewhere. Even playing him at Rochdale was fuckwittery of the highest order. Poor bloke.
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Post by berahinosgoals on Feb 17, 2019 19:16:11 GMT
Must be a reason he’s not playing? Yes, there must be
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 19:18:18 GMT
Must be a reason he’s not playing? Yes, there must be But he’s in idiot for not playing Berahino I’m guessing and there’s not valid reason for that 🙄Not the point is it. Why not let him leave if they weren’t going to let him play. Why fucking lie to his face?
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Post by scfcwebby on Feb 17, 2019 19:23:02 GMT
"Scholes and Cartwright, get out of our club"
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Post by Biblical on Feb 17, 2019 19:25:50 GMT
I really hope Jones uses Bojan between now and the end of the season. If he’s been kept at the club just to save face with the fans and doesn’t play then Scholes should walk. Why Scholes? If Bojan doesn’t get into the team between now and the end of the season then it’s safe to assume the decision to keep Bojan would have been for non-footballing reasons, which would be down to Scholes wouldn’t it.
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Post by berahinosgoals on Feb 17, 2019 19:30:03 GMT
GET SCHOLES AND CARTWRIGHT OUT OF MY FUCKIN CLUB NOW!!!! ..... there will be serious trouble come the end of this season Speaking to a wolves fan today, giving it the big un saying they are doing well etc.. asked where it went wrong for stoke, told him about the credentials and c.v of the gruesome two some. It really is fucking small time especially when you look at wolves who hire a super agent to help bring in the real "the best young players from around europe" (like we were promised) as "the new direction". Couldnt help but have a dig though as he's salivating over wolves this season, had to remind him stoke had been there for 10 years not 1, been to a f.a cup final & played European football as a result of it. Says wolves have the money to spend "though" to keep it going, told him stoke are the 6th highest net spenders in the last 10 years and the owners own bet365 so we have spent money but embarrassingly we havnt got a clue how to spend it since pulis. The sad thing is wolves probably will be more savvy than us with how they spend money. NO point in having all the money if you havnt got a clue how to spend it or even appoint the right manager to spend it. It really is an embarrassing fail of epic proportions the speed of the decline after spending so much
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 19:40:57 GMT
Last time I checked I’m not Nathan Jones. However it seems he’s got the same opinions of the previous managers and of those who have taken him on loan This reference to previous managers failing to pick Bojan always makes me smile. Not a one of them is successful. One is managing the team rooted at the bottom of the Championship, the other 4 are currently out of work The only manager who consistently picked him was Pep He was constantly picked for us... however then lost all form and never done anything since.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Feb 17, 2019 19:42:57 GMT
GET SCHOLES AND CARTWRIGHT OUT OF MY FUCKIN CLUB NOW!!!! ..... there will be serious trouble come the end of this season Speaking to a wolves fan today, giving it the big un saying they are doing well etc.. asked where it went wrong for stoke, told him about the credentials and c.v of the gruesome two some. It really is fucking small time especially when you look at wolves who hire a super agent to help bring in the real "the best young players from around europe" (like we were promised) as "the new direction". Couldnt help but have a dig though as he's salivating over wolves this season, had to remind him stoke had been there for 10 years not 1, been to a f.a cup final & played European football as a result of it. Says wolves have the money to spend "though" to keep it going, told him stoke are the 6th highest net spenders in the last 10 years and the owners own bet365 so we have spent money but embarrassingly we havnt got a clue how to spend it since pulis. The sad thing is wolves probably will be more savvy than us with how they spend money. NO point in having all the money if you havnt got a clue how to spend it or even appoint the right manager to spend it. It really is an embarrassing fail of epic proportions the speed of the decline after spending so much All the gear and no idea. We are like the prick who turns up at the golf club with his Ping this and Ping that, Calloway shit and the rest of it (I don't play golf to be fair) and he gets on the fost tee and can't fookin hit the ball. What other premiership club with our massive resources would go and get the ex Leek Town manager to be their director of football? Let that really sink in, right into your soul and then ask yourself if we are small time or not. Its so bloody obvious I want to climb a big mountain and shout it out as loud as I can......but I cant be arsed anymore. Sad sad sad times. edit...didn't mean to like my own post
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 19:42:58 GMT
Last time I checked I’m not Nathan Jones. However it seems he’s got the same opinions of the previous managers and of those who have taken him on loan All of whom were abject failures in their jobs, and you're right, Jones seems a lot like them. You not think it’s slightly strange how all of them keep overlooking him? For fans we’re all scratching our heads as to why he can’t get a game but managers take a look then leave him out. Like I say something surely has to be going on behind the scenes to which we aren’t being told.
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Feb 17, 2019 19:44:05 GMT
This reference to previous managers failing to pick Bojan always makes me smile. Not a one of them is successful. One is managing the team rooted at the bottom of the Championship, the other 4 are currently out of work The only manager who consistently picked him was Pep He was constantly picked for us... however then lost all form and never done anything since. He was in great form when he got dropped and hasn't been given the opportunity to regain it since.
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Post by berahinosgoals on Feb 17, 2019 19:48:50 GMT
But he’s in idiot for not playing Berahino I’m guessing and there’s not valid reason for that 🙄Not the point is it. Why not let him leave if they weren’t going to let him play. Why fucking lie to his face? No I don't think he's an idiot for not playing Berahino at the top of the diamond, I'll bet you it's not down to actual footballing ability though. I think hes hell bent on using good 'characters' in the team as he has quoted recently. Bojan is a good character though isnt he so you can only assume he dunna rate him, just like his last 3 managers?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 19:52:04 GMT
But he’s in idiot for not playing Berahino I’m guessing and there’s not valid reason for that 🙄Not the point is it. Why not let him leave if they weren’t going to let him play. Why fucking lie to his face? No I don't think he's an idiot for not playing Berahino at the top of the diamond, I'll bet you it's not down to actual footballing ability though. I think hes hell bent on using good 'characters' in the team as he has quoted recently. Bojan is a good character though isnt he so you can only assume he dunna rate him, just like his last 3 managers? Why not let him leave them and why say he did?
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Post by berahinosgoals on Feb 17, 2019 19:53:00 GMT
No I don't think he's an idiot for not playing Berahino at the top of the diamond, I'll bet you it's not down to actual footballing ability though. I think hes hell bent on using good 'characters' in the team as he has quoted recently. Bojan is a good character though isnt he so you can only assume he dunna rate him, just like his last 3 managers? Why not let him leave them and why say he did? we might need him in case of suspensions and injuries etc?
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Post by numpty40 on Feb 17, 2019 19:53:25 GMT
But he’s in idiot for not playing Berahino I’m guessing and there’s not valid reason for that 🙄Not the point is it. Why not let him leave if they weren’t going to let him play. Why fucking lie to his face? No I don't think he's an idiot for not playing Berahino at the top of the diamond, I'll bet you it's not down to actual footballing ability though. I think hes hell bent on using good 'characters' in the team as he has quoted recently. Bojan is a good character though isnt he so you can only assume he dunna rate him, just like his last 3 managers? The three managers who are now unemployed or are you including the manager who is currently adift at the bottom of the Championship?
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Post by berahinosgoals on Feb 17, 2019 19:54:31 GMT
No I don't think he's an idiot for not playing Berahino at the top of the diamond, I'll bet you it's not down to actual footballing ability though. I think hes hell bent on using good 'characters' in the team as he has quoted recently. Bojan is a good character though isnt he so you can only assume he dunna rate him, just like his last 3 managers? The three managers who are now unemployed or are you including the manager who is currently adift at the bottom of the Championship? Yes, maybe if bojan was all that they wouldn't be employed? Depends which way you look at it?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 19:55:09 GMT
Why not let him leave them and why say he did? we might need him in case of suspensions and injuries etc? Get a grip mate. You literally think that’s a reason not let someone go if they want to play. You honestly think he’s stayed and turned down an offer on the basis he’ll be back up. You’ll literally try and justify someone lying to one of our players to suit your weird anti-Bojan agenda?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 19:55:28 GMT
He was constantly picked for us... however then lost all form and never done anything since. He was in great form when he got dropped and hasn't been given the opportunity to regain it since. If he was in great form then why was he dropped?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 19:55:59 GMT
He was in great form when he got dropped and hasn't been given the opportunity to regain it since. If he was in great form then why was he dropped? Hughes bought Imbula and Allen
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Feb 17, 2019 19:58:27 GMT
He was in great form when he got dropped and hasn't been given the opportunity to regain it since. If he was in great form then why was he dropped? The £18.3million Giannelli Imbula.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 19:58:54 GMT
If he was in great form then why was he dropped? Hughes bought Imbula and Allen Bojan had fell off the boil by the time they came in. And again if he was in great form he would of kept his place
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Post by berahinosgoals on Feb 17, 2019 19:59:05 GMT
we might need him in case of suspensions and injuries etc? Get a grip mate. You literally think that’s a reason not let someone go if they want to play. You honestly think he’s stayed and turned down an offer on the basis he’ll be back up. You’ll literally try and justify someone lying to one of our players to suit your weird anti-Bojan agenda? I havnt got a bojan agenda but when you look at how minimal he has been used it kind of paints it's own picture doesn't it? Just because he's turned down a move it doesn't automatically make him top of the pecking order
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Post by owdestokie2 on Feb 17, 2019 20:01:14 GMT
Speaking to a wolves fan today, giving it the big un saying they are doing well etc.. asked where it went wrong for stoke, told him about the credentials and c.v of the gruesome two some. It really is fucking small time especially when you look at wolves who hire a super agent to help bring in the real "the best young players from around europe" (like we were promised) as "the new direction". Couldnt help but have a dig though as he's salivating over wolves this season, had to remind him stoke had been there for 10 years not 1, been to a f.a cup final & played European football as a result of it. Says wolves have the money to spend "though" to keep it going, told him stoke are the 6th highest net spenders in the last 10 years and the owners own bet365 so we have spent money but embarrassingly we havnt got a clue how to spend it since pulis. The sad thing is wolves probably will be more savvy than us with how they spend money. NO point in having all the money if you havnt got a clue how to spend it or even appoint the right manager to spend it. It really is an embarrassing fail of epic proportions the speed of the decline after spending so much All the gear and no idea. We are like the prick who turns up at the golf club with his Ping this and Ping that, Calloway shit and the rest of it (I don't play golf to be fair) and he gets on the fost tee and can't fookin hit the ball. What other premiership club with our massive resources would go and get the ex Leek Town manager to be their director of football? Let that really sink in, right into your soul and then ask yourself if we are small time or not. Its so bloody obvious I want to climb a big mountain and shout it out as loud as I can......but I cant be arsed anymore. Sad sad sad times. edit...didn't mean to like my own post “What other Premiership club”............none. Cartwright’s appointment was no more than (a) a political move by a CEO against the incumbent manager and (2) potentially there was/is some of relationship with Beswicks
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Post by adamsson on Feb 17, 2019 20:01:38 GMT
I really hope Jones uses Bojan between now and the end of the season. If he’s been kept at the club just to save face with the fans and doesn’t play then Scholes should walk. I wouldn't let him walk unless you have a plank
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 20:02:46 GMT
Get a grip mate. You literally think that’s a reason not let someone go if they want to play. You honestly think he’s stayed and turned down an offer on the basis he’ll be back up. You’ll literally try and justify someone lying to one of our players to suit your weird anti-Bojan agenda? I havnt got a bojan agenda but when you look at how minimal he has been used it kind of paints it's own picture doesn't it? Just because he's turned down a move it doesn't automatically make him top of the pecking order Some are living 3 years ago mate and are still walking around with there Bojan printed shirts on.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 20:03:01 GMT
Hughes bought Imbula and Allen Bojan had fell off the boil by the time they came in. And again if he was in great form he would of kept his place But it hadn’t the season before we bought Imbula was the BMX season. He struggled at first when he came back from his injury but that was some of the best football he played at Stoke. He still got 7 goals in 27 games.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 20:05:14 GMT
Bojan had fell off the boil by the time they came in. And again if he was in great form he would of kept his place But it hadn’t the season before we bought Imbula was the BMX season. He struggled at first when he came back from his injury but that was some of the best football he played at Stoke. He still got 7 goals in 27 games. So the last 5 or so managers are wrong then?
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