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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 10, 2021 8:08:31 GMT
Nixon...
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 10, 2021 8:18:17 GMT
If he's going for this fee, why haven't a dozen clubs already got him? Odd Perhaps he’s nowhere near as good as we think he is? He’s not covered himself in glory this afternoon at Rochdale by all accounts. Still, for the fee we paid for Kyle Lightbourne 20 years ago (and probably a comparable wage packet given he's currently on 10 shillings a week at Crewe), you'd think there'd be a stampede for someone that is really rated at Crewe and is the darling of the lower league football analytics community.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 10, 2021 8:23:25 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/stoke-city-transfer-harry-pickering-4873090Harry Pickering If Stoke fans have been suggesting Crewe's key man as a potential target for a while, The Sun and the Mail are now claiming that he is a real target. We wrote in our list of left-back options: "Every club is aware of Crewe’s conveyor belt and it hasn’t done Stoke all that many favours in recent years that they’re just down the A500. "So can O’Neill rewind the clock and bag a player to follow in the footsteps of Johnny King and John Mahoney? "Pickering has been the stand-out left-back in League One this season, building a superb double act down that flank with Charlie Kirk. He likes to dribble and can pick a good pass – and he signed a new long-term deal until 2023 in August. "Has already been linked with Blackburn Rovers and Alex boss Dave Artell said: 'The first thing to say is, we don’t have to sell. That is the first thing. And we won’t, unless it is an offer that we feel is right for this football club.' "In this financial climate, the right deal might not be quite as expensive as in previous years."
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Post by neddy on Jan 10, 2021 8:45:45 GMT
Crikey Artel is almost inviting a low bid? Guess it just depends whether the management team rate him high enough?
I think we have to be so careful now given our history of transfers recently.....it has to be players that would immediately affect the first team if we are to have a second half of season push? My point being I know we are bare thin at left back but is he better that Morgan in the management eyes?
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jan 10, 2021 8:47:59 GMT
Crikey Artel is almost inviting a low bid? Guess it just depends whether the management team rate him high enough? I think we have to be so careful now given our history of transfers recently.....it has to be players that would immediately affect the first team if we are to have a second half of season push? My point being I know we are bare thin at left back but is he better that Morgan in the management eyes? Does that mean I might get signed as our new striker?
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Post by neddy on Jan 10, 2021 9:29:19 GMT
Crikey Artel is almost inviting a low bid? Guess it just depends whether the management team rate him high enough? I think we have to be so careful now given our history of transfers recently.....it has to be players that would immediately affect the first team if we are to have a second half of season push? My point being I know we are bare thin at left back but is he better that Morgan in the management eyes? Does that mean I might get signed as our new striker? Harsh but fair lol 😂
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2021 9:39:04 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/stoke-city-transfer-harry-pickering-4873090Harry Pickering If Stoke fans have been suggesting Crewe's key man as a potential target for a while, The Sun and the Mail are now claiming that he is a real target. We wrote in our list of left-back options: "Every club is aware of Crewe’s conveyor belt and it hasn’t done Stoke all that many favours in recent years that they’re just down the A500. "So can O’Neill rewind the clock and bag a player to follow in the footsteps of Johnny King and John Mahoney? "Pickering has been the stand-out left-back in League One this season, building a superb double act down that flank with Charlie Kirk. He likes to dribble and can pick a good pass – and he signed a new long-term deal until 2023 in August. "Has already been linked with Blackburn Rovers and Alex boss Dave Artell said: 'The first thing to say is, we don’t have to sell. That is the first thing. And we won’t, unless it is an offer that we feel is right for this football club.' "In this financial climate, the right deal might not be quite as expensive as in previous years." That last sentence sounds like a 'come and get him'. If the finances allow this is a no brainer.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2021 9:49:12 GMT
Crikey Artel is almost inviting a low bid? Guess it just depends whether the management team rate him high enough? I think we have to be so careful now given our history of transfers recently.....it has to be players that would immediately affect the first team if we are to have a second half of season push? My point being I know we are bare thin at left back but is he better that Morgan in the management eyes? It may also depend if Pickering is prepared to fight for the shirt. He may want to go somewhere where he is automatic first choice. Could we keep them both happy? Don't think fullback is a position you can chop and change, you need continuity. I think a player like Pickering is the way forward but I can see the dilemma for MON.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jan 10, 2021 10:33:47 GMT
Crikey Artel is almost inviting a low bid? Guess it just depends whether the management team rate him high enough? I think we have to be so careful now given our history of transfers recently.....it has to be players that would immediately affect the first team if we are to have a second half of season push? My point being I know we are bare thin at left back but is he better that Morgan in the management eyes? It may also depend if Pickering is prepared to fight for the shirt. He may want to go somewhere where he is automatic first choice. Could we keep them both happy? Don't think fullback is a position you can chop and change, you need continuity. I think a player like Pickering is the way forward but I can see the dilemma for MON. I'm not sure a player coming from mid table in League One could ever be 100% sure of being automatic first choice in a team pushing for the Championship play offs. If he looks at our situation I think he'd be fairly confident of cementing a regular place though.....
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Post by cheadlestokie on Jan 10, 2021 10:37:05 GMT
Where is all this opinion coming from that it is a no brainer to sign Pickering?
I ask because I watch plenty of football but have never seen Pickering.
Crewe are not on the tele too much!
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 10, 2021 11:09:08 GMT
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 10, 2021 11:10:57 GMT
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Post by moon on Jan 10, 2021 11:23:31 GMT
With Matondo only here until the summer it must be tempting to sign both Pickering and Doughty. If Pickering is the best LB in league one and set for greater things I wouldn’t have thought he will struggle too much to displace Fox (who has been solid but not much more).
That’s assuming they both want to join of course, but they’d both be regulars here in a side that should be pushing for top 6 or better next season, we should be pretty appealing despite recent performances.
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Post by followyoudown on Jan 10, 2021 11:31:11 GMT
With Matondo only here until the summer it must be tempting to sign both Pickering and Doughty. If Pickering is the best LB in league one and set for greater things I wouldn’t have thought he will struggle too much to displace Fox (who has been solid but not much more). That’s assuming they both want to join of course, but they’d both be regulars here in a side that should be pushing for top 6 or better next season, we should be pretty appealing despite recent performances. I thought we had an option to buy Matondo.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 10, 2021 11:34:44 GMT
With Matondo only here until the summer it must be tempting to sign both Pickering and Doughty. If Pickering is the best LB in league one and set for greater things I wouldn’t have thought he will struggle too much to displace Fox (who has been solid but not much more). That’s assuming they both want to join of course, but they’d both be regulars here in a side that should be pushing for top 6 or better next season, we should be pretty appealing despite recent performances. I thought we had an option to buy Matondo. www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/stoke-city-transfer-michael-oneill-4870648You'd think that was just planning should we go up though? Based on MON's comments, unsurprisingly, doesn't seem like we'd be spending £5.5m on someone this summer unless we get an unexpected promotion which would get us away from our FFP trap?
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 10, 2021 11:41:38 GMT
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Post by followyoudown on Jan 10, 2021 11:48:36 GMT
Yes it would make sense if we were to go up as its likely he would have played a big part, it could also be interesting to see the next set of accounts, the only change to FFP so far has been to exclude covid related costs which also includes expected reduction in value of players, for players like Wimmer it might be a struggle to argue their value was affected but the likes of Ince, Afobe, Woods, Badou, Etobo there is probably an argument.
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Post by followyoudown on Jan 10, 2021 12:09:25 GMT
Their manager has said they don't need to sell but then he is hardly likely to say they desperately need cash, dont see many championship clubs paying £1.5m for a left back with less than 20 games at league 1 level, it's definitely a buyers market so I would believe Nixon's valuation is ballpark.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jan 10, 2021 12:36:40 GMT
I'm not sure why people are asking Nixon those sorts of questions
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Post by karl on Jan 10, 2021 12:44:18 GMT
Think he would be a fantastic signing. How much would it cost to take him from Crewe?
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jan 10, 2021 12:53:14 GMT
Think he would be a fantastic signing. How much would it cost to take him from Crewe? Nixon reckons 500k but I think it would take a bit more than that, possibly around 750k
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Post by werrington on Jan 10, 2021 13:34:57 GMT
It’s Doughty then ....given we’ve put an offer in, it’s been accepted and we are awaiting the players answer
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jan 10, 2021 13:38:09 GMT
It’s Doughty then ....given we’ve put an offer in, it’s been accepted and we are awaiting the players answer It doesn't sort out the left back issue though because Doughty won't be fit until after Fox is fit. He's more of a left mid too apparently so Nixon's just guessing like he usually does
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Post by karl on Jan 10, 2021 13:45:48 GMT
It’s Doughty then ....given we’ve put an offer in, it’s been accepted and we are awaiting the players answer It doesn't sort out the left back issue though because Doughty won't be fit until after Fox is fit. He's more of a left mid too apparently so Nixon's just guessing like he usually does I think we will sign both if both Ince and Verlinden leave.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jan 10, 2021 14:17:41 GMT
It doesn't sort out the left back issue though because Doughty won't be fit until after Fox is fit. He's more of a left mid too apparently so Nixon's just guessing like he usually does I think we will sign both if both Ince and Verlinden leave. We need both irrespective of what happens
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jan 10, 2021 14:29:55 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/stoke-city-transfer-harry-pickering-4873090Harry Pickering If Stoke fans have been suggesting Crewe's key man as a potential target for a while, The Sun and the Mail are now claiming that he is a real target. We wrote in our list of left-back options: "Every club is aware of Crewe’s conveyor belt and it hasn’t done Stoke all that many favours in recent years that they’re just down the A500. "So can O’Neill rewind the clock and bag a player to follow in the footsteps of Johnny King and John Mahoney? "Pickering has been the stand-out left-back in League One this season, building a superb double act down that flank with Charlie Kirk. He likes to dribble and can pick a good pass – and he signed a new long-term deal until 2023 in August. "Has already been linked with Blackburn Rovers and Alex boss Dave Artell said: 'The first thing to say is, we don’t have to sell. That is the first thing. And we won’t, unless it is an offer that we feel is right for this football club.' "In this financial climate, the right deal might not be quite as expensive as in previous years." [ They see Wimmer Berahino , Afoebe , Brown , Vokes and see us comkg won’t be Same bloke who did that lot you can’t blame them
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Post by baystokie on Jan 10, 2021 15:28:05 GMT
I'm not sure why people are asking Nixon those sorts of questions He's likely to know as much (even more?) than most of the punters on here and his opinion is just as valid. When you read some things on here, you might think - why not ask a soccer journo? He might be wrong but than who, on here, isn't so at times?
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Post by chayseeoatcake on Jan 10, 2021 16:41:16 GMT
What happened to Corrigan from Man City?
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 10, 2021 16:55:29 GMT
Their fans seem very optimistic/delusional as to his value.
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Post by xchpotter on Jan 10, 2021 17:02:57 GMT
Their fans seem very optimistic/delusional as to his value. Either that or they have confidence in their chief executive who gets top dollar for their assets. Wish we had one.😂
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