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Post by wagsastokie on Nov 8, 2020 13:22:03 GMT
Like Brexit you mean four and a half years on and counting, deliberate blocking, stalling, court case etc should have just accepted the vote and got on with the will of the people let's hope the Trump supporters show a bit more class than the whinging, whining, bitching moaning libtards in the UK have or Trump could still be situe for the foreseeable. Catch on quick you do boss. My final hope is that the popular vote finishes 52-48 and to watch all you Trump sympathising, brexit supporting gammons crying endlessly over the next 5 years. One I’m not a trump sympathiser Two it is only four years Three why the need to descend in to personal insults Could it be your hypocritical stance on brexit has been exposed
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Post by wagsastokie on Nov 8, 2020 13:24:54 GMT
Whatever gets you through it Waga. Those who want nothing to do with Biden should just accept the vote and get on with the will of the people. Lovely bit of groundbait I usually find plenty of hemp in it helps
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Nov 8, 2020 13:29:36 GMT
Catch on quick you do boss. My final hope is that the popular vote finishes 52-48 and to watch all you Trump sympathising, brexit supporting gammons crying endlessly over the next 5 years. One I’m not a trump sympathiser Two it is only four years Three why the need to descend in to personal insults Could it be your hypocritical stance on brexit has been exposed Oh yes, all of the above 😂 but you're quite right it is 4 years as opposed to 5 so please take this as me rectifying that point. Don't worry we still have our sunlit uplands to look forward to, the bullshit and rhetoric will continue in the UK for sometime to come, but the clock is ticking. And if you see generalisations as personal insults id get back in the freezer snowflake ❄
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Post by elystokie on Nov 8, 2020 13:32:39 GMT
Lovely bit of groundbait I usually find plenty of hemp in it helps One of THE true superfoods, most birds will go for hemp seed first when faced with a choice apparently, do your pigeons eat them? Sadly, the laws in this country make it difficult to grow for the ordinary person, unless you happened to be married to the Prime Minister or the Drugs Minister, then it's absolutely fine Most of it is grown about 30 miles from you
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Post by wagsastokie on Nov 8, 2020 13:38:52 GMT
I usually find plenty of hemp in it helps One of THE true superfoods, most birds will go for hemp seed first when faced with a choice apparently, do your pigeons eat them? Sadly, the laws in this country make it difficult to grow for the ordinary person, unless you happened to be married to the Prime Minister or the Drugs Minister, then it's absolutely fine Most of it is grown about 30 miles from you Yes there very fond of it and if given the chance will consume far to much very heavy in fats which of course should only be consumed in moderation Often used as a conditioner and given to the birds a day or so before a race and also as a traping mix to encourage quick re entry to the loft
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Post by elystokie on Nov 8, 2020 13:49:42 GMT
One of THE true superfoods, most birds will go for hemp seed first when faced with a choice apparently, do your pigeons eat them? Sadly, the laws in this country make it difficult to grow for the ordinary person, unless you happened to be married to the Prime Minister or the Drugs Minister, then it's absolutely fine Most of it is grown about 30 miles from you Yes there very fond of it and if given the chance will consume far to much very heavy in fats which of course should only be consumed in moderation Often used as a conditioner and given to the birds a day or so before a race and also as a traping mix to encourage quick re entry to the loft Good for humans too for the omega 3 and omega 6 fatty acids, presumably the same fatty acids that are good for fish and birds, we have the same endocannabinoid systems.
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Post by mjg13x on Nov 8, 2020 14:18:06 GMT
I volunteered over 200 hours on Biden's campaign and couldn't be more pleased with this result. The two Senate runoff elections in Georgia are now crucial to the next two years -- either the Democrats take control of a 50-50 Senate (with VP-elect Harris as the tiebreaking vote) or the Republicans have a 52-48 majority and Biden is severely limited in what he can do.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Nov 8, 2020 14:54:32 GMT
I volunteered over 200 hours on Biden's campaign and couldn't be more pleased with this result. The two Senate runoff elections in Georgia are now crucial to the next two years -- either the Democrats take control of a 50-50 Senate (with VP-elect Harris as the tiebreaking vote) or the Republicans have a 52-48 majority and Biden is severely limited in what he can do. Well done. I hope you get the thanks and appreciation you deserve from your local Democrat party organisation. And from those of us on this side of the pond who are equally pleased to see the back of Trump and his abhorrent, divisive and dangerous approach to government, thanks.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 8, 2020 15:00:02 GMT
Just imagine the furore if someone else, say a former leader of the Labour Party for instance had used such words. I don't think we'd be looking at the nuance of it! And of course his pillar box line has been directly inked to incidents of hate. He simply isn't fit for the job of Prime Minister. I was listening to a podcast just now when one US commentator made the point that she hoped America might move away from the era of fake news although she wasn’t particularly optimistic noting Trump’s attempts to undermine Biden with his cheating allegations. She noted that this was a continuation of the Democrat’s undermining of Trump’s legitimacy through stuff like Russian interference and before that the Republican’s undermining Obama. Of course distortion, embellishment, decontextualising is neither new or unique to the US. IMO it has become endemic. You see it on this board all the time. You’ve seen it with Corbyn. You do it to Johnson. I won’t hold my breath waiting for it to get better. I'm not sure what's fake about it. www.pressgazette.co.uk/boris-johnson-telegraph-column-muslim-women-letterboxes-bank-robbers-spike-islamophobic-incidents/
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Post by partickpotter on Nov 8, 2020 15:28:38 GMT
I was listening to a podcast just now when one US commentator made the point that she hoped America might move away from the era of fake news although she wasn’t particularly optimistic noting Trump’s attempts to undermine Biden with his cheating allegations. She noted that this was a continuation of the Democrat’s undermining of Trump’s legitimacy through stuff like Russian interference and before that the Republican’s undermining Obama. Of course distortion, embellishment, decontextualising is neither new or unique to the US. IMO it has become endemic. You see it on this board all the time. You’ve seen it with Corbyn. You do it to Johnson. I won’t hold my breath waiting for it to get better. I'm not sure what's fake about it. www.pressgazette.co.uk/boris-johnson-telegraph-column-muslim-women-letterboxes-bank-robbers-spike-islamophobic-incidents/Have you read the article? I’m curious to know if you agree or disagree with the argument he is making which is this... the burka is oppressive and ridiculous – but that's still no reason to ban it.
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Post by neworleanstokie on Nov 8, 2020 15:29:02 GMT
I volunteered over 200 hours on Biden's campaign and couldn't be more pleased with this result. The two Senate runoff elections in Georgia are now crucial to the next two years -- either the Democrats take control of a 50-50 Senate (with VP-elect Harris as the tiebreaking vote) or the Republicans have a 52-48 majority and Biden is severely limited in what he can do. Well done. I hope you get the thanks and appreciation you deserve from your local Democrat party organisation. And from those of us on this side of the pond who are equally pleased to see the back of Trump and his abhorrent, divisive and dangerous approach to government, thanks. When the news broke here in the city it was truly a memorable moment in my life - the city went bonkers, car/truck horns, people celebrating in the streets, banging pots and pans etc. etc. It's quite something to hear 7 millions people celebrating at the same time. And on top of that it happened on a beautiful warm sunny day.
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Post by mrcoke on Nov 8, 2020 15:38:55 GMT
I have not posted on this thread before (unless I am having a senior moment) as I cannot remember when there was an impressive American President, and not much interested. The BBC has been criticized today for the amount of coverage the present election has been given. I can say present as they are still counting. The BBC spokesperson's response was that the coverage was justified by its world importance. I think the importance and power of the US President is overstated. Laws have to be passed by the House of Representatives and the Senate and American courts are a law unto themselves. Consequently the power of the President can be severely curtailed, not least in terms of finance. The best example I can think of is Bush's Guantanomo Bay camp in Cuba. Was it a detainee, internment, prison, or torture camp? In any event a fresh young President by the name of Obama who gave us new hope of a liberal, caring, leader made it his number 1 priority and the first oder he signed was to initiate its closure. Guess what? 8 years later Obama left power and the facility was, and still is, there. www.theguardian.com/world/2009/jan/22/hillary-clinton-diplomatic-foreign-policyThe article is eleven years old, note the young man applauding on the left.
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Post by dutchstokie on Nov 8, 2020 15:55:55 GMT
Like Brexit you mean four and a half years on and counting, deliberate blocking, stalling, court case etc should have just accepted the vote and got on with the will of the people let's hope the Trump supporters show a bit more class than the whinging, whining, bitching moaning libtards in the UK have or Trump could still be situe for the foreseeable. Catch on quick you do boss. My final hope is that the popular vote finishes 52-48 and to watch all you Trump sympathising, brexit supporting gammons crying endlessly over the next 5 years. What the fuck is a ‘gammon’ ? And what relevance does it have to the US election race? You’ve lost me there.....
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Post by spitthedog on Nov 8, 2020 16:09:30 GMT
The two populists I can think of in the last twenty years in British politics Were farage and corbyn one succeeded in his ambition to return sovereignty to this country the other is fading into obscurity once people realised unicorns aren’t free Oh and being stabbed in the back by starmer And as for boris all he did was promise to deliver on the something the country had already voted for Johnson is a populist. Boris would have opposed Brexit if it would have made him Leader/PM. 100%. Whatever it took, that is all. The project was to become Leader/PM. End of.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 8, 2020 16:26:27 GMT
Have you read the article? I’m curious to know if you agree or disagree with the argument he is making which is this... the burka is oppressive and ridiculous – but that's still no reason to ban it. I know exactly what he said. As did those who went out out to commit acts of Islamophobia on the back of it. Completely dehumanising language.
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Post by partickpotter on Nov 8, 2020 16:46:59 GMT
Have you read the article? I’m curious to know if you agree or disagree with the argument he is making which is this... the burka is oppressive and ridiculous – but that's still no reason to ban it. I know exactly what he said. As did those who went out out to commit acts of Islamophobia on the back of it. Completely dehumanising language. You’ve not answered the questions - do you think the burka is oppressive and ridiculous? Should it be banned?
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Nov 8, 2020 16:47:42 GMT
I wonder if Trump will turn up in Jan, to hand over the Presidency. I would'nt put it passed him.
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Post by Gods on Nov 8, 2020 17:03:52 GMT
Say what you like about Joe Biden but that was a barn storming acceptance speech he delivered last night!
Much better than anything from the 'Don' looking down at those post cards he uses and repeating the contents of each twice and then adding a small lie all of his own at the end of each one.
Biden also did what he said he could do. never pretended he was the most dynamic Democrat candidate but always insisted he could win enough blue collar voters in the rust belt states to get this thing over the line and so he did.
Go on Joe !!
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 8, 2020 17:11:05 GMT
I know exactly what he said. As did those who went out out to commit acts of Islamophobia on the back of it. Completely dehumanising language. You’ve not answered the questions - do you think the burka is oppressive and ridiculous? Should it be banned? No and no. Then again I'm just a punk on a messageboard not the Prime Minister who thinks women who dress differently from the norm look like bank robbers and letterboxes.
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Post by partickpotter on Nov 8, 2020 17:28:02 GMT
You’ve not answered the questions - do you think the burka is oppressive and ridiculous? Should it be banned? No and no. Then again I'm just a punk on a messageboard not the Prime Minister who thinks women who dress differently from the norm look like bank robbers and letterboxes. Jolly good. You are as one with Boris on substance (but possibly not on substances). Do I think his use of language was wise (you may ask)? No I don’t. Do I think it indicates he is racist? No, I don’t.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Nov 8, 2020 17:35:34 GMT
I volunteered over 200 hours on Biden's campaign and couldn't be more pleased with this result. The two Senate runoff elections in Georgia are now crucial to the next two years -- either the Democrats take control of a 50-50 Senate (with VP-elect Harris as the tiebreaking vote) or the Republicans have a 52-48 majority and Biden is severely limited in what he can do. Congratulations. As someone who clearly knows his onions. How do you think his victory will impact on the U.K.?
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Post by oggyoggy on Nov 8, 2020 17:37:26 GMT
Boris would have opposed Brexit if it would have made him Leader/PM. 100%. Whatever it took, that is all. The project was to become Leader/PM. End of. He adopts loads of Trump’s tactics. He lies constantly, he never admits he is wrong, even though the majority of major decisions he has made so far have been U-turned, he spreads lies and misinformation through “leaks” and anonymous government sources, he is in constant campaign mode, he aligns himself as doing “the will of the people” despite that “will” being based on complete lies (Tory manifesto, Vote leave manifesto) and tries to paint Starmer as representing the “elite” as he is a lawyer representing a north London constituency, despite Johnson Eton background, he tries to create division between the “people” and the “elite”. He is a populist
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Post by cobhamstokey on Nov 8, 2020 17:38:33 GMT
No and no. Then again I'm just a punk on a messageboard not the Prime Minister who thinks women who dress differently from the norm look like bank robbers and letterboxes. Jolly good. You are as one with Boris on substance (but possibly not on substances). Do I think his use of language was wise (you may ask)? No I don’t. Do I think it indicates he is racist? No, I don’t. It’s a word that’s used way too much nowadays. I always think innapropriate is a better word with these sort of comments. Wrong 100 percent but we’re all guilty of making stupid comments snowflake, gammon etc.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 8, 2020 18:36:22 GMT
I think a little window into how 'the special relationship' currently sits! Shapeshifting creep Genius.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 8, 2020 18:39:47 GMT
No and no. Then again I'm just a punk on a messageboard not the Prime Minister who thinks women who dress differently from the norm look like bank robbers and letterboxes. Jolly good. You are as one with Boris on substance (but possibly not on substances). Do I think his use of language was wise (you may ask)? No I don’t. Do I think it indicates he is racist? No, I don’t. He said it was oppressive.
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Post by partickpotter on Nov 8, 2020 18:51:17 GMT
Jolly good. You are as one with Boris on substance (but possibly not on substances). Do I think his use of language was wise (you may ask)? No I don’t. Do I think it indicates he is racist? No, I don’t. He said it was oppressive. I agree. And, I thought, so did you.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 8, 2020 18:54:47 GMT
He said it was oppressive. I agree. And, I thought, so did you. I'm sure it is used oppressively but to call it oppressive across the board is basically balls.
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Post by RF10 on Nov 8, 2020 18:59:48 GMT
I have not posted on this thread before (unless I am having a senior moment) as I cannot remember when there was an impressive American President, and not much interested. The BBC has been criticized today for the amount of coverage the present election has been given. I can say present as they are still counting. The BBC spokesperson's response was that the coverage was justified by its world importance. I think the importance and power of the US President is overstated. Laws have to be passed by the House of Representatives and the Senate and American courts are a law unto themselves. Consequently the power of the President can be severely curtailed, not least in terms of finance. The best example I can think of is Bush's Guantanomo Bay camp in Cuba. Was it a detainee, internment, prison, or torture camp? In any event a fresh young President by the name of Obama who gave us new hope of a liberal, caring, leader made it his number 1 priority and the first oder he signed was to initiate its closure. Guess what? 8 years later Obama left power and the facility was, and still is, there. www.theguardian.com/world/2009/jan/22/hillary-clinton-diplomatic-foreign-policyThe article is eleven years old, note the young man applauding on the left. Excuse me if I'm missing something obvious but if he signed an order for it to be closed why didn't it?
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Nov 8, 2020 19:15:02 GMT
I think a little window into how 'the special relationship' currently sits! Shapeshifting creep Genius. The Bluffer has lots of form and has previously been accused of dog whistle racism in the vein of Donald Trump... www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5916717/Angry-Obama-branded-Boris-Johnson-Britains-Trump-Kenyan-ancestry-jibe.htmlWhile still London Mayor, writing in the Sun about the decision of the Obama administration to remove a bust of Britain’s wartime leader Winston Churchill from the Oval Office, Johnson said: “Some said it was a snub to Britain. Some said it was a symbol of the part-Kenyan president’s ancestral dislike of the British empire – of which Churchill had been such a fervent defender.” In fact, the bust was on loan to President Bush and was simply relocated elsewhere in the White House. Johnson was asked later whether he had any regrets about the way he phrased comments. “Of course not,” he told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme. Churchill's grandson, Conservative MP Sir Nicholas Soames, called the article "deplorable" and "completely idiotic". He told LBC Radio: "I like to think, possibly - I'm mad enough to think - that it was probably written by some little twerp who works for Boris. I can't believe that Boris would really have done something so stupid, but whatever it is, it bears his name and it is deeply offensive." I expect Nicholas Soames has changed his mind about Bluffer not doing anything "so stupid" in the intervening four years.
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Post by partickpotter on Nov 8, 2020 19:32:12 GMT
I agree. And, I thought, so did you. I'm sure it is used oppressively but to call it oppressive across the board is basically balls. Simply extraordinary Mo. You don’t half post some drivel at times. But I never had you down as a misogynist.
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