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Post by Davef on Nov 8, 2020 9:30:22 GMT
It's certainly going to be interesting to watch the reaction to the first African American having a few bullets pumped into his back by a cop isn't it?
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Post by oggyoggy on Nov 8, 2020 9:33:16 GMT
It will be interesting to see how the US shapes up over the next few years. Noting Biden is a one term president (at most!) eyes will be cast 4 years hence and the battle for the 47th presidency. What will the democrats do? Occupy the middle ground (which seems to be where Biden is positioning himself) and look to attract more republican voters or move left to keep the Sander’s wing happy. And the GOP? The battle for the soul of the party has already started. Do they elect a new Trump type figure (if there could ever be another!) or do they dump him like Starmer is doing over here with Corbyn. I think Dems have to start thinking about the working class again because that was a large part of Trump’s backing. The problem Biden has is he has to get the pandemic under control before he does anything. That means lockdowns or similar I would imagine. So he needs to support those who are impacted the most and then start a fairer distribution of wealth away from billionaires and to the wider population. If the Republicans try to replicate another Trump like candidate they will surely fail. He was a one off (I hope!). Particularly if Trump fully implodes and leads to Reps losing the senate in the Georgian run offs which is a possibility. Trump should concede/go quietly for the good of the Reps. And what impact will the right wing populist poster boy’s defeat have on the mini Trumps in Brazil, here etc? Surely the pressure will tell on those two, for example on Bolsonaro’s destruction of the rainforest and Johnson’s breach of the withdrawal agreement. What about Iran and the Middle East? What about China? I wonder if the EU will have a chance of a trade deal with the US before us now? Putin and Xi will be gutted Trump lost. The EU leaders delighted.
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Post by partickpotter on Nov 8, 2020 9:40:07 GMT
It will be interesting to see how the US shapes up over the next few years. Noting Biden is a one term president (at most!) eyes will be cast 4 years hence and the battle for the 47th presidency. What will the democrats do? Occupy the middle ground (which seems to be where Biden is positioning himself) and look to attract more republican voters or move left to keep the Sander’s wing happy. And the GOP? The battle for the soul of the party has already started. Do they elect a new Trump type figure (if there could ever be another!) or do they dump him like Starmer is doing over here with Corbyn. I think Dems have to start thinking about the working class again because that was a large part of Trump’s backing. The problem Biden has is he has to get the pandemic under control before he does anything. That means lockdowns or similar I would imagine. So he needs to support those who are impacted the most and then start a fairer distribution of wealth away from billionaires and to the wider population. If the Republicans try to replicate another Trump like candidate they will surely fail. He was a one off (I hope!). Particularly if Trump fully implodes and leads to Reps losing the senate in the Georgian run offs which is a possibility. Trump should concede/go quietly for the good of the Reps. And what impact will the right wing populist poster boy’s defeat have on the mini Trumps in Brazil, here etc? Surely the pressure will tell on those two, for example on Bolsonaro’s destruction of the rainforest and Johnson’s breach of the withdrawal agreement. What about Iran and the Middle East? What about China? I wonder if the EU will have a chance of a trade deal with the US before us now? Putin and Xi will be gutted Trump lost. The EU leaders delighted. One reaction was particularly interesting - the US stock markets which surged as a Biden victory looked on the cards. Normally you think they’d be more inclined to the Republicans.
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Post by neckender78 on Nov 8, 2020 9:44:08 GMT
Excellent post. Something the social media goons that support Trump (the likes of Paul Watson etc) have been very effective at doing is removing all nuance and, as you say, degrees from the conversation. You can see it in the conversation about removing children from parents at the border. The way I understand it, Obama started the practise but Trump made it infinitely more cruel and unorganised. And Trump's media goons have been very successful in convincing people that the two actions are exactly the same. The biggest problem nowadays is no one has a clue what’s happening (me included) as everyone has an opinion which if you read one side and not the other you’d think it was gospel. If you have a slant you’re always going to believe the one you want to believe. It doesn’t help that the MSM don’t just report the facts anymore either. Depending on what you read / watch there’ll always be a slant taken so god knows what to believe. One things for certain politics and religion will always split and I don’t intend to lose friends over it so maybe the best approach is fo keep off the subject. I think I’m just going to just watch sport in future and stick to YouTube and old episodes of Brookside and food critics. That way I might just keep my sanity. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/KYqg3pYeaerc5lD_P7BR.gif) Absolutely spot on Cobham, I am going round to that thinking. All media outlets have bias on their reporting of any political event. In agreement, well apart from the Brookside bit
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Post by lordb on Nov 8, 2020 9:45:04 GMT
I think Dems have to start thinking about the working class again because that was a large part of Trump’s backing. The problem Biden has is he has to get the pandemic under control before he does anything. That means lockdowns or similar I would imagine. So he needs to support those who are impacted the most and then start a fairer distribution of wealth away from billionaires and to the wider population. If the Republicans try to replicate another Trump like candidate they will surely fail. He was a one off (I hope!). Particularly if Trump fully implodes and leads to Reps losing the senate in the Georgian run offs which is a possibility. Trump should concede/go quietly for the good of the Reps. And what impact will the right wing populist poster boy’s defeat have on the mini Trumps in Brazil, here etc? Surely the pressure will tell on those two, for example on Bolsonaro’s destruction of the rainforest and Johnson’s breach of the withdrawal agreement. What about Iran and the Middle East? What about China? I wonder if the EU will have a chance of a trade deal with the US before us now? Putin and Xi will be gutted Trump lost. The EU leaders delighted. One reaction was particularly interesting - the US stock markets which surged as a Biden victory looked on the cards. Normally you think they’d be more inclined to the Republicans. The markets prefer stability to instability
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Post by mtrstudent on Nov 8, 2020 9:47:56 GMT
It will be interesting to see how the US shapes up over the next few years. Noting Biden is a one term president (at most!) eyes will be cast 4 years hence and the battle for the 47th presidency. What will the democrats do? Occupy the middle ground (which seems to be where Biden is positioning himself) and look to attract more republican voters or move left to keep the Sander’s wing happy. And the GOP? The battle for the soul of the party has already started. Do they elect a new Trump type figure (if there could ever be another!) or do they dump him like Starmer is doing over here with Corbyn. I think Dems have to start thinking about the working class again because that was a large part of Trump’s backing. The problem Biden has is he has to get the pandemic under control before he does anything. That means lockdowns or similar I would imagine. So he needs to support those who are impacted the most and then start a fairer distribution of wealth away from billionaires and to the wider population. If the Republicans try to replicate another Trump like candidate they will surely fail. He was a one off (I hope!). Particularly if Trump fully implodes and leads to Reps losing the senate in the Georgian run offs which is a possibility. Trump should concede/go quietly for the good of the Reps. And what impact will the right wing populist poster boy’s defeat have on the mini Trumps in Brazil, here etc? Surely the pressure will tell on those two, for example on Bolsonaro’s destruction of the rainforest and Johnson’s breach of the withdrawal agreement. What about Iran and the Middle East? What about China? I wonder if the EU will have a chance of a trade deal with the US before us now? Putin and Xi will be gutted Trump lost. The EU leaders delighted. I don't think Biden can do anything about lockdown because that's a state decision, anything needing money has to come through Congress and Trump will do everything to burn any free cash before Biden gets in. Biden can stop Trump's war on science, start to root out the corruption and stop the presidency being used as a pro-covid bullhorn, which should help things a lot. The Feds are supposed to provide resources, network, organisation etc, but the scientists have been muzzled and the CDC gutted and turned into a Trump propaganda organ while states were forced to bid against each other for desperately needed supplies. Biden will improve those things massively, but it's too late for the best outcome IMO.
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Post by Gods on Nov 8, 2020 9:58:20 GMT
Time for a re-think for the Republicans?
They have lost the popular vote in 7 out of the last 8 elections including Trump twice now. They barely exist in the USA's most progressive and economically powerful state of California.
I'm not convinced Trump was ever really a Republican, just his own show who kind of hi-jacked the party.
Word is Trump would like to parachute one of his children in to run next time but are his kids not just Trump without the charisma?
And as one or 2 of their more mature statesman have said 'we're just not breeding enough angry white guys, we need to move on'.
I think they have to step away from Trump and put together a more progressive agenda which still embraces their old values.
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Post by Cast no shadow on Nov 8, 2020 10:04:47 GMT
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Post by musik on Nov 8, 2020 10:08:03 GMT
It will be interesting to see who wins after the re-counting.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Nov 8, 2020 10:12:25 GMT
The biggest problem nowadays is no one has a clue what’s happening (me included) as everyone has an opinion which if you read one side and not the other you’d think it was gospel. If you have a slant you’re always going to believe the one you want to believe. It doesn’t help that the MSM don’t just report the facts anymore either. Depending on what you read / watch there’ll always be a slant taken so god knows what to believe. One things for certain politics and religion will always split and I don’t intend to lose friends over it so maybe the best approach is fo keep off the subject. I think I’m just going to just watch sport in future and stick to YouTube and old episodes of Brookside and food critics. That way I might just keep my sanity. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/KYqg3pYeaerc5lD_P7BR.gif) Absolutely spot on Cobham, I am going round to that thinking. All media outlets have bias on their reporting of any political event. In agreement, well apart from the Brookside bit I guess ultimately it’s about accepting that you have a bias and realising you don’t always get it right and that sometimes you need to step back and assess and look at the impact that reading / watching the news has on you. I’m quite a chilled guy usually but hate injustice and have found that over the last few months I’ve found myself getting wound up way to easily. It took a good mate to point this out to me. In the end there’s little as an individual can do so we shouldn’t let ourselves get to wound up as it’s not the answer. We need to appreciate more what we do have close to us because we can do something about that.
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Post by wagsastokie on Nov 8, 2020 10:14:50 GMT
It will be interesting to see how the US shapes up over the next few years. Noting Biden is a one term president (at most!) eyes will be cast 4 years hence and the battle for the 47th presidency. What will the democrats do? Occupy the middle ground (which seems to be where Biden is positioning himself) and look to attract more republican voters or move left to keep the Sander’s wing happy. And the GOP? The battle for the soul of the party has already started. Do they elect a new Trump type figure (if there could ever be another!) or do they dump him like Starmer is doing over here with Corbyn. I think Dems have to start thinking about the working class again because that was a large part of Trump’s backing. The problem Biden has is he has to get the pandemic under control before he does anything. That means lockdowns or similar I would imagine. So he needs to support those who are impacted the most and then start a fairer distribution of wealth away from billionaires and to the wider population. If the Republicans try to replicate another Trump like candidate they will surely fail. He was a one off (I hope!). Particularly if Trump fully implodes and leads to Reps losing the senate in the Georgian run offs which is a possibility. Trump should concede/go quietly for the good of the Reps. And what impact will the right wing populist poster boy’s defeat have on the mini Trumps in Brazil, here etc? Surely the pressure will tell on those two, for example on Bolsonaro’s destruction of the rainforest and Johnson’s breach of the withdrawal agreement. What about Iran and the Middle East? What about China? I wonder if the EU will have a chance of a trade deal with the US before us now? Putin and Xi will be gutted Trump lost. The EU leaders delighted. The two populists I can think of in the last twenty years in British politics Were farage and corbyn one succeeded in his ambition to return sovereignty to this country the other is fading into obscurity once people realised unicorns aren’t free Oh and being stabbed in the back by starmer And as for boris all he did was promise to deliver on the something the country had already voted for
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Post by Gods on Nov 8, 2020 10:22:45 GMT
I think Dems have to start thinking about the working class again because that was a large part of Trump’s backing. The problem Biden has is he has to get the pandemic under control before he does anything. That means lockdowns or similar I would imagine. So he needs to support those who are impacted the most and then start a fairer distribution of wealth away from billionaires and to the wider population. If the Republicans try to replicate another Trump like candidate they will surely fail. He was a one off (I hope!). Particularly if Trump fully implodes and leads to Reps losing the senate in the Georgian run offs which is a possibility. Trump should concede/go quietly for the good of the Reps. And what impact will the right wing populist poster boy’s defeat have on the mini Trumps in Brazil, here etc? Surely the pressure will tell on those two, for example on Bolsonaro’s destruction of the rainforest and Johnson’s breach of the withdrawal agreement. What about Iran and the Middle East? What about China? I wonder if the EU will have a chance of a trade deal with the US before us now? Putin and Xi will be gutted Trump lost. The EU leaders delighted. The two populists I can think of in the last twenty years in British politics Were farage and corbyn one succeeded in his ambition to return sovereignty to this country the other is fading into obscurity once people realised unicorns aren’t free Oh and being stabbed in the back by starmer And as for boris all he did was promise to deliver on the something the country had already voted for I think Boris was highly influential in the Brexit vote. Farrage could carry the angry dispossessed but it needed Boris to lend Brexit a veneer of respectability among the blue rinse retired set in the Home Counties without whom the narrow vote in favour would not have happpened.
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Nov 8, 2020 10:52:01 GMT
The two populists I can think of in the last twenty years in British politics Were farage and corbyn one succeeded in his ambition to return sovereignty to this country the other is fading into obscurity once people realised unicorns aren’t free Oh and being stabbed in the back by starmer And as for boris all he did was promise to deliver on the something the country had already voted for I think Boris was highly influential in the Brexit vote. Farrage could carry the angry dispossessed but it needed Boris to lend Brexit a veneer of respectability among the blue rinse retired set in the Home Counties without whom the narrow vote in favour would not have happpened. The official Leave campaign (leave.eu) wanted Farage nowhere near it. Boris, the ultimate political opportunist, was and is the poster boy of Brexit. 4 years Boris, tick tock ⏰ ...
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Nov 8, 2020 10:53:41 GMT
Let's hope this country similarly turns its back on divisive, racist, populist nonsense. The signs are looking good. That bluffer in No 10 with his references to piccaninnies and their watermelon smiles and much of his government have been thoroughly exposed for the inept charlatans they are and we've got a decent, electable leader of the Opposition again. The Americans appear to have written off the latter half of the last decade as an embarrassing aberration. If only we could do the same. Let it go. (Oh, you might want to read this article, Boris Johnson and the ‘piccaninny’ smear. Well, you might if you were interested in truth rather than fake news). Fair enough. Rather than relying on a defence from the usually loyal Spectator, let's revisit his actual words... Writing about a prospective trip by Mr Blair to the Democratic Republic of the Congo, Mr Johnson stated: “No doubt the AK47s will fall silent, and the pangas will stop their hacking of human flesh, and the tribal warriors will all break out in watermelon smiles to see the big white chief touch down in his big white British taxpayer-funded bird.” The same column includes the line: “It is said that the Queen has come to love the Commonwealth, partly because it supplies her with regular cheering crowds of flag-waving piccaninnies.” What a wag.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Nov 8, 2020 10:57:43 GMT
The two populists I can think of in the last twenty years in British politics Were farage and corbyn one succeeded in his ambition to return sovereignty to this country the other is fading into obscurity once people realised unicorns aren’t free Oh and being stabbed in the back by starmer And as for boris all he did was promise to deliver on the something the country had already voted for I think Boris was highly influential in the Brexit vote. Farrage could carry the angry dispossessed but it needed Boris to lend Brexit a veneer of respectability among the blue rinse retired set in the Home Counties without whom the narrow vote in favour would not have happpened. Yes, exactly. Bluffer and Gove were the face of the Official Vote Leave campaign.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 8, 2020 11:30:42 GMT
Fair enough. Rather than relying on a defence from the usually loyal Spectator, let's revisit his actual words... Writing about a prospective trip by Mr Blair to the Democratic Republic of the Congo, Mr Johnson stated: “No doubt the AK47s will fall silent, and the pangas will stop their hacking of human flesh, and the tribal warriors will all break out in watermelon smiles to see the big white chief touch down in his big white British taxpayer-funded bird.” The same column includes the line: “It is said that the Queen has come to love the Commonwealth, partly because it supplies her with regular cheering crowds of flag-waving piccaninnies.” What a wag. Just imagine the furore if someone else, say a former leader of the Labour Party for instance had used such words. I don't think we'd be looking at the nuance of it! And of course his pillar box line has been directly inked to incidents of hate. He simply isn't fit for the job of Prime Minister.
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Post by dutchstokie on Nov 8, 2020 11:49:21 GMT
Cant we just stick to laughing at Trump.....?
Do we have to go round in circles ?
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Post by spitthedog on Nov 8, 2020 12:11:49 GMT
Fair enough. Rather than relying on a defence from the usually loyal Spectator, let's revisit his actual words... Writing about a prospective trip by Mr Blair to the Democratic Republic of the Congo, Mr Johnson stated: “No doubt the AK47s will fall silent, and the pangas will stop their hacking of human flesh, and the tribal warriors will all break out in watermelon smiles to see the big white chief touch down in his big white British taxpayer-funded bird.” The same column includes the line: “It is said that the Queen has come to love the Commonwealth, partly because it supplies her with regular cheering crowds of flag-waving piccaninnies.” What a wag. Just imagine the furore if someone else, say a former leader of the Labour Party for instance had used such words. I don't think we'd be looking at the nuance of it! And of course his pillar box line has been directly inked to incidents of hate. He simply isn't fit for the job of Prime Minister. If Corbyn, or even Starmer had said that their heads would be on the end of a stick. Getting back to Trump, I think the most hopeful aspect for me is that it shows that elections can go beyond issues like economy, and be determined by human values. This is all relative of course, Biden wont be an angel, no doubt, but Trump was damaging for the whole world, not just the USA because he was just the worst possible role model and was so ready to disregard basic human values for the sake of his own ego. It's been difficult for people the world over to accept that.
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Post by wagsastokie on Nov 8, 2020 12:19:25 GMT
Cant we just stick to laughing at Trump.....? Do we have to go round in circles ? I’m not sure we should really be laughing at trump if you take away the socialist utopia of California trump would probably win the popular vote in America Isn’t that rather worrying than funny Biden has got a hell of a job to unite the country if not a impossible one There’s people who voted Biden who have never or seldom vote they are expecting change which he is going to struggle to deliver
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Nov 8, 2020 12:34:09 GMT
Cant we just stick to laughing at Trump.....? Do we have to go round in circles ? I’m not sure we should really be laughing at trump if you take away the socialist utopia of California trump would probably win the popular vote in America Isn’t that rather worrying than funny Biden has got a hell of a job to unite the country if not a impossible one There’s people who voted Biden who have never or seldom vote they are expecting change which he is going to struggle to deliver 😂 All you have to do now is close your eyes and pretend that a state whose populus is 39.5m (roughly 12% of the US total) and if it were an independent country would have the 5th largest economy in the world is ignored, then the bigoted idiot would have won. 💉
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Post by wagsastokie on Nov 8, 2020 12:48:47 GMT
I’m not sure we should really be laughing at trump if you take away the socialist utopia of California trump would probably win the popular vote in America Isn’t that rather worrying than funny Biden has got a hell of a job to unite the country if not a impossible one There’s people who voted Biden who have never or seldom vote they are expecting change which he is going to struggle to deliver 😂 All you have to do now is close your eyes and pretend that a state whose populus is 39.5m (roughly 12% of the US total) and if it were an independent country would have the 5th largest economy in the world is ignored, then the bigoted idiot would have won. 💉 I’m merely pointing out the difficult job Biden has got to unite the country There are vast tracts of country want nothing to do with Biden And people seem all to ready to dismiss this in there eagerness to get rid of trump Who actually increased his vote
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Nov 8, 2020 12:52:49 GMT
😂 All you have to do now is close your eyes and pretend that a state whose populus is 39.5m (roughly 12% of the US total) and if it were an independent country would have the 5th largest economy in the world is ignored, then the bigoted idiot would have won. 💉 I’m merely pointing out the difficult job Biden has got to unite the country There are vast tracts of country want nothing to do with Biden And people seem all to ready to dismiss this in there eagerness to get rid of trump Who actually increased his vote Whatever gets you through it Waga. Those who want nothing to do with Biden should just accept the vote and get on with the will of the people.
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Post by partickpotter on Nov 8, 2020 12:58:35 GMT
Fair enough. Rather than relying on a defence from the usually loyal Spectator, let's revisit his actual words... Writing about a prospective trip by Mr Blair to the Democratic Republic of the Congo, Mr Johnson stated: “No doubt the AK47s will fall silent, and the pangas will stop their hacking of human flesh, and the tribal warriors will all break out in watermelon smiles to see the big white chief touch down in his big white British taxpayer-funded bird.” The same column includes the line: “It is said that the Queen has come to love the Commonwealth, partly because it supplies her with regular cheering crowds of flag-waving piccaninnies.” What a wag. Just imagine the furore if someone else, say a former leader of the Labour Party for instance had used such words. I don't think we'd be looking at the nuance of it! And of course his pillar box line has been directly inked to incidents of hate. He simply isn't fit for the job of Prime Minister. I was listening to a podcast just now when one US commentator made the point that she hoped America might move away from the era of fake news although she wasn’t particularly optimistic noting Trump’s attempts to undermine Biden with his cheating allegations. She noted that this was a continuation of the Democrat’s undermining of Trump’s legitimacy through stuff like Russian interference and before that the Republican’s undermining Obama. Of course distortion, embellishment, decontextualising is neither new or unique to the US. IMO it has become endemic. You see it on this board all the time. You’ve seen it with Corbyn. You do it to Johnson. I won’t hold my breath waiting for it to get better.
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Post by oggyoggy on Nov 8, 2020 13:05:27 GMT
It will be interesting to see who wins after the re-counting. Recounts change usually around 100 or so votes. Trump needs to overcome over 10000 in Georgia and more in others. A recount will make no difference
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Post by oggyoggy on Nov 8, 2020 13:06:54 GMT
I think Dems have to start thinking about the working class again because that was a large part of Trump’s backing. The problem Biden has is he has to get the pandemic under control before he does anything. That means lockdowns or similar I would imagine. So he needs to support those who are impacted the most and then start a fairer distribution of wealth away from billionaires and to the wider population. If the Republicans try to replicate another Trump like candidate they will surely fail. He was a one off (I hope!). Particularly if Trump fully implodes and leads to Reps losing the senate in the Georgian run offs which is a possibility. Trump should concede/go quietly for the good of the Reps. And what impact will the right wing populist poster boy’s defeat have on the mini Trumps in Brazil, here etc? Surely the pressure will tell on those two, for example on Bolsonaro’s destruction of the rainforest and Johnson’s breach of the withdrawal agreement. What about Iran and the Middle East? What about China? I wonder if the EU will have a chance of a trade deal with the US before us now? Putin and Xi will be gutted Trump lost. The EU leaders delighted. The two populists I can think of in the last twenty years in British politics Were farage and corbyn one succeeded in his ambition to return sovereignty to this country the other is fading into obscurity once people realised unicorns aren’t free Oh and being stabbed in the back by starmer And as for boris all he did was promise to deliver on the something the country had already voted for Johnson is a populist.
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Post by crapslinger on Nov 8, 2020 13:08:59 GMT
I’m merely pointing out the difficult job Biden has got to unite the country There are vast tracts of country want nothing to do with Biden And people seem all to ready to dismiss this in there eagerness to get rid of trump Who actually increased his vote Whatever gets you through it Waga. Those who want nothing to do with Biden should just accept the vote and get on with the will of the people. Like Brexit you mean ![(lol)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/lvpvZ64EmrkLcuVniUmo.gif) four and a half years on and counting, deliberate blocking, stalling, court case etc should have just accepted the vote and got on with the will of the people ![(rofl)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/wMWjB17JNiCK5pUPtfmL.gif) let's hope the Trump supporters show a bit more class than the whinging, whining, bitching moaning libtards in the UK have or Trump could still be situe for the foreseeable.
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Post by wagsastokie on Nov 8, 2020 13:13:06 GMT
I’m merely pointing out the difficult job Biden has got to unite the country There are vast tracts of country want nothing to do with Biden And people seem all to ready to dismiss this in there eagerness to get rid of trump Who actually increased his vote Whatever gets you through it Waga. Those who want nothing to do with Biden should just accept the vote and get on with the will of the people. I need nothing to help me get through it As I said earlier in this tread I couldn’t give a flying fuck who won it But I’m glad like myself you agree that people should accept the will of the people It’s just a pity starmer didn’t think the same
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Post by elystokie on Nov 8, 2020 13:14:34 GMT
I’m merely pointing out the difficult job Biden has got to unite the country There are vast tracts of country want nothing to do with Biden And people seem all to ready to dismiss this in there eagerness to get rid of trump Who actually increased his vote Whatever gets you through it Waga. Those who want nothing to do with Biden should just accept the vote and get on with the will of the people. Lovely bit of groundbait ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/KYqg3pYeaerc5lD_P7BR.gif)
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Post by oggyoggy on Nov 8, 2020 13:15:44 GMT
Whatever gets you through it Waga. Those who want nothing to do with Biden should just accept the vote and get on with the will of the people. Like Brexit you mean ![(lol)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/lvpvZ64EmrkLcuVniUmo.gif) four and a half years on and counting, deliberate blocking, stalling, court case etc should have just accepted the vote and got on with the will of the people ![(rofl)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/wMWjB17JNiCK5pUPtfmL.gif) let's hope the Trump supporters show a bit more class than the whinging, whining, bitching moaning libtards in the UK have or Trump could still be situe for the foreseeable. Well according to the official vote leave website we would strike a trade deal with all the benefits of being a member of the single market. We aren’t getting that so what we are getting is not the will of the people.
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Nov 8, 2020 13:16:58 GMT
Whatever gets you through it Waga. Those who want nothing to do with Biden should just accept the vote and get on with the will of the people. Like Brexit you mean ![(lol)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/lvpvZ64EmrkLcuVniUmo.gif) four and a half years on and counting, deliberate blocking, stalling, court case etc should have just accepted the vote and got on with the will of the people ![(rofl)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/wMWjB17JNiCK5pUPtfmL.gif) let's hope the Trump supporters show a bit more class than the whinging, whining, bitching moaning libtards in the UK have or Trump could still be situe for the foreseeable. Catch on quick you do boss. My final hope is that the popular vote finishes 52-48 and to watch all you Trump sympathising, brexit supporting gammons crying endlessly over the next 5 years.
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