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Post by cobhamstokey on Nov 7, 2020 22:11:04 GMT
What were his successes? The Middle Eastern peace deals appear to be one, although we need to see how sturdy they are over time. And I'm probably thinking of that just because it happened recently. The crime bill changing mandatory minimums amongst other things. He had the economy going good until covid. Whilst we dont know the specifics he tried to get peace in the Middle East, dialogue with n Korea. Successes against isis. He has a point about NATO contributions. You can search. Some of his successes will depend on your political point of view This is a little worrying re future trade deals with the U.K. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8922741/amp/Picture-Joe-Biden-Gerry-Adams-IRA-chief-tried-kill-Army-officer-emerges.html?__twitter_impression=true
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Nov 7, 2020 22:37:44 GMT
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Post by spitthedog on Nov 7, 2020 22:41:40 GMT
One of the best local newspaper headlines ever Ayrshire Daily News "South Ayrshire Golf club owner loses 2020 presidential election" ![(lol)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/lvpvZ64EmrkLcuVniUmo.gif)
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Nov 7, 2020 22:44:37 GMT
I see Nigel's taking it well. A bit triggered d'ya reckon?
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Post by spitthedog on Nov 7, 2020 22:53:49 GMT
I see Nigel's taking it well. A bit triggered d'ya reckon? It certainly means alot to some people
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Post by Gods on Nov 7, 2020 22:57:08 GMT
"Not a President for the blue states or the red states but the United States"
Whoever fed Joe Biden that line deserves a medal!
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Nov 7, 2020 23:02:26 GMT
I see Nigel's taking it well. A bit triggered d'ya reckon? Where's that Norwegian commentator when you need it? Nigel Farage, Steve Bannon, Fox News, Breitbart...your boy took a hell of a beating...etc.
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Post by Boothen on Nov 7, 2020 23:04:37 GMT
So, where will Biden's first war be? Each new US President has to blood their faces by invading some shit tier third world country in order to plunder it's resources or get shot of a leader that isn't toeing the line. So, where will it be for creepy Joe?
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Post by salopstick on Nov 7, 2020 23:04:50 GMT
Stolen but some truth Electing Biden is like shitting your pants and changing your shirt
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Nov 7, 2020 23:07:50 GMT
Stolen but some truth Electing Biden is like shitting your pants and changing your shirt A nice line. And doesn't it mean that the "shitting your pants" bit was electing Trump in 2016?
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Nov 7, 2020 23:08:43 GMT
So, where will Biden's first war be? Each new US President has to blood their faces by invading some shit tier third world country in order to plunder it's resources or get shot of a leader that isn't toeing the line. So, where will it be for creepy Joe? I believe he's going to bomb the shit out of anyone that calls him Creepy Joe.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Nov 7, 2020 23:12:00 GMT
I see Nigel's taking it well. A bit triggered d'ya reckon? It certainly means alot to some people Let's hope this country similarly turns its back on divisive, racist, populist nonsense. The signs are looking good. That bluffer in No 10 with his references to piccaninnies and their watermelon smiles and much of his government have been thoroughly exposed for the inept charlatans they are and we've got a decent, electable leader of the Opposition again. The Americans appear to have written off the latter half of the last decade as an embarrassing aberration. If only we could do the same.
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Post by Gods on Nov 7, 2020 23:33:36 GMT
I see Nigel's taking it well. A bit triggered d'ya reckon? There's been plenty of pictures of gun toting 'boogaloo boys' in their trade mark Hawaiian shirts and military fatigues looking menacing outside counting stations and lunatic women reprising the religious Crusades, what more does Nige want?
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Post by starkiller on Nov 7, 2020 23:53:42 GMT
It certainly means alot to some people Let's hope this country similarly turns its back on divisive, racist, populist nonsense. The signs are looking good. That bluffer in No 10 with his references to piccaninnies and their watermelon smiles and much of his government have been thoroughly exposed for the inept charlatans they are and we've got a decent, electable leader of the Opposition again. The Americans appear to have written off the latter half of the last decade as an embarrassing aberration. If only we could do the same. How deceived can you be? You can call Trump a racist and not see Biden’s decades track record of blatant racism and racist policies. I find it incredible how media can frame things, usually with soundbites, and even more incredible how people absorb it. Totally blinkered. And as for his attitude towards females, even his own deputy supported women who accused him of being a predator. And this is from two years ago, long before anyone knew he was running for president. Oh well, as long as keeps the woke brigade from destroying, burning and looting their own cities, I guess it's a good thing
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Post by cobhamstokey on Nov 8, 2020 0:06:50 GMT
Let's hope this country similarly turns its back on divisive, racist, populist nonsense. The signs are looking good. That bluffer in No 10 with his references to piccaninnies and their watermelon smiles and much of his government have been thoroughly exposed for the inept charlatans they are and we've got a decent, electable leader of the Opposition again. The Americans appear to have written off the latter half of the last decade as an embarrassing aberration. If only we could do the same. How deceived can you be? You can call Trump a racist and not see Biden’s decades track record of blatant racism and racist policies. I find it incredible how media can frame things, usually with soundbites, and even more incredible how people absorb it. Totally blinkered. And as for his attitude towards females, even his own deputy supported women who accused him of being a predator. It’ll be an interesting few years. Let’s give the guy a chance and see how things go. To make him out to be the messiah could be a little premature. I don’t have any loyalties but what is very clear is that there is a hell of a lot of media bias in both the US and U.K. and it really doesn’t feel like a level playing field. It’ll be interesting to see if the incoming president gets the same treatment as the outgoing one does. It’s such a shame that governments can’t just get on with it and purely news is reported with no spin on it. It’s confusing knowing what to believe nowadays. I think just dismissing something the press says because of loyalty’s is a dangerous game.
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Post by spitthedog on Nov 8, 2020 0:16:56 GMT
Let's hope this country similarly turns its back on divisive, racist, populist nonsense. The signs are looking good. That bluffer in No 10 with his references to piccaninnies and their watermelon smiles and much of his government have been thoroughly exposed for the inept charlatans they are and we've got a decent, electable leader of the Opposition again. The Americans appear to have written off the latter half of the last decade as an embarrassing aberration. If only we could do the same. How deceived can you be? You can call Trump a racist and not see Biden’s decades track record of blatant racism and racist policies. I find it incredible how media can frame things, usually with soundbites, and even more incredible how people absorb it. Totally blinkered. And as for his attitude towards females, even his own deputy supported women who accused him of being a predator. And this is from two years ago, long before anyone knew he was running for president. Oh well, as long as keeps the woke brigade from destroying, burning and looting their own cities, I guess it's a good thing We are talking about degrees. I don't have any great expectations of Biden. I wouldn't call a Trump racist exactly, he's a white supremacist, a philosophy he has consistently championed and even more problematic is his lack of awareness of what that even means. If he is not, then he hasn't done anything to assure any of his citizens that he isn't, he's just been happy to play it as a card. The man has zero empathy or human values, so it doesn't take much to make people feel emotional about something that at least offers some light in the tunnel that USA finds itself in however faint that maybe. You can post creepy vids of Biden all day but it will take a lot more than that to even begin to compete with Trump's catalogue of creepiness that he has in his CV
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Post by oggyoggy on Nov 8, 2020 0:19:32 GMT
That doesn’t sound good, but at least children are still with their mothers, unlike with Trump Trump’s list of failures is long and far longer than his achievements. He has been awful for democracy given the sheer quantity of his lies and misinformation.
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Post by musik on Nov 8, 2020 1:29:49 GMT
It reminded me ...
Biden is talking to the nation now.
Better turn the tv on here in Sweden.
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Post by stokefaninde on Nov 8, 2020 3:00:22 GMT
Let's hope this country similarly turns its back on divisive, racist, populist nonsense. The signs are looking good. That bluffer in No 10 with his references to piccaninnies and their watermelon smiles and much of his government have been thoroughly exposed for the inept charlatans they are and we've got a decent, electable leader of the Opposition again. The Americans appear to have written off the latter half of the last decade as an embarrassing aberration. If only we could do the same. How deceived can you be? You can call Trump a racist and not see Biden’s decades track record of blatant racism and racist policies. I find it incredible how media can frame things, usually with soundbites, and even more incredible how people absorb it. Totally blinkered. And as for his attitude towards females, even his own deputy supported women who accused him of being a predator. And this is from two years ago, long before anyone knew he was running for president. Oh well, as long as keeps the woke brigade from destroying, burning and looting their own cities, I guess it's a good thing I've met Biden a bunch of times (I live in Delaware) and the creepy reputation is way over blown. You ever meet someone that is "touchy" when they talk to you? A hand on the shoulder etc. That's Biden. Nothing creepy about it though innreal life
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Post by partickpotter on Nov 8, 2020 3:22:59 GMT
I see Nigel's taking it well. A bit triggered d'ya reckon? Maybe he’s feeling a bit sore about a recent wager that didn’t quite work out...
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Post by partickpotter on Nov 8, 2020 3:28:00 GMT
Stolen but some truth Electing Biden is like shitting your pants and changing your shirt Away and boil your head. It’s a wonderful day... you can’t argue with the luvvies.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Nov 8, 2020 6:46:32 GMT
Stolen but some truth Electing Biden is like shitting your pants and changing your shirt Away and boil your head. It’s a wonderful day... you can’t argue with the luvvies. Best thing to do is wait and see then judge in a year or 2.
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Nov 8, 2020 7:03:51 GMT
I see Nigel's taking it well. A bit triggered d'ya reckon? Maybe he’s feeling a bit sore about a recent wager that didn’t quite work out... Yeah, I saw that - but let's face it, it's highly likely he didn't but a single pound on Trump winning. It was just grandstanding.
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Post by partickpotter on Nov 8, 2020 7:05:58 GMT
Maybe he’s feeling a bit sore about a recent wager that didn’t quite work out... Yeah, I saw that - but let's face it, it's highly likely he didn't but a single pound on Trump winning. It was just grandstanding. Nigel - grandstanding? Surely not.
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Nov 8, 2020 7:09:14 GMT
How deceived can you be? You can call Trump a racist and not see Biden’s decades track record of blatant racism and racist policies. I find it incredible how media can frame things, usually with soundbites, and even more incredible how people absorb it. Totally blinkered. And as for his attitude towards females, even his own deputy supported women who accused him of being a predator. And this is from two years ago, long before anyone knew he was running for president. Oh well, as long as keeps the woke brigade from destroying, burning and looting their own cities, I guess it's a good thing We are talking about degrees. I don't have any great expectations of Biden. I wouldn't call a Trump racist exactly, he's a white supremacist, a philosophy he has consistently championed and even more problematic is his lack of awareness of what that even means. If he is not, then he hasn't done anything to assure any of his citizens that he isn't, he's just been happy to play it as a card. The man has zero empathy or human values, so it doesn't take much to make people feel emotional about something that at least offers some light in the tunnel that USA finds itself in however faint that maybe. You can post creepy vids of Biden all day but it will take a lot more than that to even begin to compete with Trump's catalogue of creepiness that he has in his CV Excellent post. Something the social media goons that support Trump (the likes of Paul Watson etc) have been very effective at doing is removing all nuance and, as you say, degrees from the conversation. You can see it in the conversation about removing children from parents at the border. The way I understand it, Obama started the practise but Trump made it infinitely more cruel and unorganised. And Trump's media goons have been very successful in convincing people that the two actions are exactly the same.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Nov 8, 2020 8:57:52 GMT
How deceived can you be? You can call Trump a racist and not see Biden’s decades track record of blatant racism and racist policies. I find it incredible how media can frame things, usually with soundbites, and even more incredible how people absorb it. Totally blinkered. And as for his attitude towards females, even his own deputy supported women who accused him of being a predator. And this is from two years ago, long before anyone knew he was running for president. Oh well, as long as keeps the woke brigade from destroying, burning and looting their own cities, I guess it's a good thing We are talking about degrees. I don't have any great expectations of Biden. I wouldn't call a Trump racist exactly, he's a white supremacist, a philosophy he has consistently championed and even more problematic is his lack of awareness of what that even means. If he is not, then he hasn't done anything to assure any of his citizens that he isn't, he's just been happy to play it as a card. The man has zero empathy or human values, so it doesn't take much to make people feel emotional about something that at least offers some light in the tunnel that USA finds itself in however faint that maybe. You can post creepy vids of Biden all day but it will take a lot more than that to even begin to compete with Trump's catalogue of creepiness that he has in his CV Yes, exactly. If the election of just another old, white guy who'd lost twice already, who barely campaigned, who has question marks over his fitness for office, etc brings out this much national (and, frankly, international) relief, what does that say about the previous goon?
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Post by cobhamstokey on Nov 8, 2020 9:03:20 GMT
We are talking about degrees. I don't have any great expectations of Biden. I wouldn't call a Trump racist exactly, he's a white supremacist, a philosophy he has consistently championed and even more problematic is his lack of awareness of what that even means. If he is not, then he hasn't done anything to assure any of his citizens that he isn't, he's just been happy to play it as a card. The man has zero empathy or human values, so it doesn't take much to make people feel emotional about something that at least offers some light in the tunnel that USA finds itself in however faint that maybe. You can post creepy vids of Biden all day but it will take a lot more than that to even begin to compete with Trump's catalogue of creepiness that he has in his CV Excellent post. Something the social media goons that support Trump (the likes of Paul Watson etc) have been very effective at doing is removing all nuance and, as you say, degrees from the conversation. You can see it in the conversation about removing children from parents at the border. The way I understand it, Obama started the practise but Trump made it infinitely more cruel and unorganised. And Trump's media goons have been very successful in convincing people that the two actions are exactly the same. The biggest problem nowadays is no one has a clue what’s happening (me included) as everyone has an opinion which if you read one side and not the other you’d think it was gospel. If you have a slant you’re always going to believe the one you want to believe. It doesn’t help that the MSM don’t just report the facts anymore either. Depending on what you read / watch there’ll always be a slant taken so god knows what to believe. One things for certain politics and religion will always split and I don’t intend to lose friends over it so maybe the best approach is fo keep off the subject. I think I’m just going to just watch sport in future and stick to YouTube and old episodes of Brookside and food critics. That way I might just keep my sanity. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/KYqg3pYeaerc5lD_P7BR.gif)
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Post by partickpotter on Nov 8, 2020 9:11:03 GMT
It certainly means alot to some people Let's hope this country similarly turns its back on divisive, racist, populist nonsense. The signs are looking good. That bluffer in No 10 with his references to piccaninnies and their watermelon smiles and much of his government have been thoroughly exposed for the inept charlatans they are and we've got a decent, electable leader of the Opposition again. The Americans appear to have written off the latter half of the last decade as an embarrassing aberration. If only we could do the same. Let it go. (Oh, you might want to read this article, Boris Johnson and the ‘piccaninny’ smear. Well, you might if you were interested in truth rather than fake news).
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Post by partickpotter on Nov 8, 2020 9:18:43 GMT
It will be interesting to see how the US shapes up over the next few years.
Noting Biden is a one term president (at most!) eyes will be cast 4 years hence and the battle for the 47th presidency.
What will the democrats do? Occupy the middle ground (which seems to be where Biden is positioning himself) and look to attract more republican voters or move left to keep the Sander’s wing happy.
And the GOP? The battle for the soul of the party has already started. Do they elect a new Trump type figure (if there could ever be another!) or do they dump him like Starmer is doing over here with Corbyn.
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Post by mtrstudent on Nov 8, 2020 9:29:54 GMT
It will be interesting to see how the US shapes up over the next few years. Noting Biden is a one term president (at most!) eyes will be cast 4 years hence and the battle for the 47th presidency. What will the democrats do? Occupy the middle ground (which seems to be where Biden is positioning himself) and look to attract more republican voters or move left to keep the Sander’s wing happy. And the GOP? The battle for the soul of the party has already started. Do they elect a new Trump type figure (if there could ever be another!) or do they dump him like Starmer is doing over here with Corbyn. Don't see the Republicans allowing him to do anything, assuming they hold the Senate. Then midterms usually go badly for Democrats and for whoever has the presidency. Their strategy will be to prevent Biden doing anything that helps Americans, to try and maximise pain and suffering and then use the anger to win the 2024 election. Worked brilliantly on Obama.
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