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Post by robrigo on Jan 9, 2019 10:57:53 GMT
Another £1 million on a manager😮 let’s hope it works out Yep we can’t keep wasting money the way we have on compensation, poor signings etc. We are at crunch point now. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2019 10:58:51 GMT
I just clicked on Luton forum and it was the only one that came up on google Luton’s forum highlights how good proboards is. It’s garbage to navigate. It’s worse than the old Rivals board! |
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Post by webbyscfc on Jan 9, 2019 10:58:51 GMT
So do we think the Carto connection is significant? If it is, maybe it’s a last chance saloon scenario for Cartwright. If it doesn’t work out, he is gone too. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2019 10:59:28 GMT
So do we think the Carto connection is significant? I do, yes. At a guess, I'd say he's under a bit of pressure with this appointment. |
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Post by Onneravineet on Jan 9, 2019 10:59:31 GMT
Whilst the style of play is certainly important for all clubs and their fans it carries significance at Stoke City, in my opinion. This is purely due to our recent, and arguably our most transformative, period of history. As fans we backed TP and were unified once as to the achievements he attained at our helm.
However, between the cage, the bonus games and binary ball he lost many supporters. I like to think that those that he lost were the supporters that bought into his Evolution NOT Revolution mantra. When the progression failed to materialise, following his midweek Wigan experiment I tend to think, he instead galvanised in his front of house fortress stance. Which inevitably and regrettably led to his demise and fall from grace for the supported that reluctantly relinquished their backing of a man that had done so much for the club and the city.
Unsurprisingly TP still has stern and avid supporters amoungst our fanbase that would find solace in a Sam or Moyes appointment. The safety blanket and the familiar comfort it would provide is certainly alluring. Yet our Board have aimed for something different, something progressive. I like to think that this is because they know the club’s fans better than we give them credit for. Mainly because they are as big a fans as any of us. Peter Coates has decades of support over me. I think that they realise, on reflection of Rowett’s tenure, that on mass our tolerance for turgid, caged and none progressive football has been eroded over the last decade, albeit apart from an all too brief stint under Hughes.
Sam and Moyes were harangued out of their last positions by supporters that haven’t endured or experienced a TP era. The Board know that they weren’t what was needed.
GOAAAAAAARN STOKE
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2019 11:00:32 GMT
Big decision by the Board and at least it's not one of the usual managerial merry go round suspects. He done wonders with Luton on next to nothing so I'm coming round to the idea of him coming to our club.
Welcome aboard Nathan Jones !
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Post by djduncanjames on Jan 9, 2019 11:00:39 GMT
He's moving because of the better quality forum we have. That's the real measure of a top club. #AMBITION |
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Post by bringmesunshine on Jan 9, 2019 11:00:52 GMT
Lambert should have been on a 6 month contract with an extension if he succeeded in what he was briefed to do in that short time. The fact he was given 2.5 years was a bad joke on the board's part. It goes to prove just how inept and desperate they were. |
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Jan 9, 2019 11:00:56 GMT
Another £1 million on a manager😮 let’s hope it works out It is however £1m on the single most important footballing position at the club. If we'd taken a £1m punt on a 20 year old squad player we wouldn't bat an eyelid. |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 9, 2019 11:01:40 GMT
Another £1 million on a manager😮 let’s hope it works out It is however £1m on the single most important footballing position at the club. If we'd taken a £1m punt on a 20 year old squad player we wouldn't bat an eyelid. Very true mate |
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Post by Onneravineet on Jan 9, 2019 11:02:36 GMT
Lambert should have been on a 6 month contract with an extension if he succeeded in what he was briefed to do in that short time. The fact he was given 2.5 years was a bad joke on the board's part. That’s exactly what he was on wasn’t it? There was a two way exit had it not suited either party. |
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Post by berahinosgoals on Jan 9, 2019 11:05:49 GMT
Another £1 million on a manager😮 let’s hope it works out It is however £1m on the single most important footballing position at the club. If we'd taken a £1m punt on a 20 year old squad player we wouldn't bat an eyelid. single most important position at the club, exactly. we'll spend 13 m & wages on league 'proven' players but not the single most important position at the club? 🤔 |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2019 11:05:50 GMT
Whilst the style of play is certainly important for al clubs and their fans it carries significance at Stoke City, in my opinion. This is purely due to our recent, and arguably our most transformative, period of history. As fans we backed TP and were unified once as to the achievements he attained at our helm. However, between the cage, the bonus games and binary ball he lost many supporters. I like to think that those that he lost were the supporters that bought into his Evolution NOT Revolution mantra. When the progression failed to materialise, following his midweek Wigan experiment I tend to think, he instead galvanised in his front of house fortress stance. Which inevitably and regrettably led to his demise and fall from grace for the supported that reluctantly relinquished their backing of a man that had done so much for the club and the city. Unsurprisingly TP still has stern and avid supporters amoungst our fanbase that would find solace in a Sam or Moyes appointment. The safety blanket and the familiar comfort it would provide is certainly alluring. Yet our Board have aimed for something different, something progressive. I like to think that this is because they know the club’s fans better than we give them credit for. Mainly because they are as big a fans as any of us. Peter Coates has decades of support over me. I think that they realise, on reflection of Rowett’s tenure, that on mass our tolerance for turgid, caged and none progressive football has been eroded over the last decade, albeit apart from an all too brief stint under Hughes. Sam and Moyes were harangued out of their last positions by supporters that haven’t endured or experienced a TP era. The Board know that they weren’t what was needed. GOAAAAAAARN STOKE Spot on The style of football is important as it's about enjoying going to watch it every weekend, Pulis ground out some results and we had some absolutely amazing games at the Brit under him but we reached a peak and it became tiring after a few years. Hughes delivered some fantastic football too, the best I've seen at Stoke by far, but if we are to accept that mid table premier league football with the odd good cup run is realistically about the best we can achieve then let's try and do it with a bit of style and make it enjoyable - no more 'park the bus' at all away games, or grinding out a 1-0 at home. Rowett's football was turgid, maybe he'd have improved given time but who knows. We have to give Jones time though, we can't keep placing the blame on the manager every time we fail. |
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Jan 9, 2019 11:08:13 GMT
Whilst the style of play is certainly important for al clubs and their fans it carries significance at Stoke City, in my opinion. This is purely due to our recent, and arguably our most transformative, period of history. As fans we backed TP and were unified once as to the achievements he attained at our helm. However, between the cage, the bonus games and binary ball he lost many supporters. I like to think that those that he lost were the supporters that bought into his Evolution NOT Revolution mantra. When the progression failed to materialise, following his midweek Wigan experiment I tend to think, he instead galvanised in his front of house fortress stance. Which inevitably and regrettably led to his demise and fall from grace for the supported that reluctantly relinquished their backing of a man that had done so much for the club and the city. Unsurprisingly TP still has stern and avid supporters amoungst our fanbase that would find solace in a Sam or Moyes appointment. The safety blanket and the familiar comfort it would provide is certainly alluring. Yet our Board have aimed for something different, something progressive. I like to think that this is because they know the club’s fans better than we give them credit for. Mainly because they are as big a fans as any of us. Peter Coates has decades of support over me. I think that they realise, on reflection of Rowett’s tenure, that on mass our tolerance for turgid, caged and none progressive football has been eroded over the last decade, albeit apart from an all too brief stint under Hughes. Sam and Moyes were harangued out of their last positions by supporters that haven’t endured or experienced a TP era. The Board know that they weren’t what was needed. GOAAAAAAARN STOKE Excellent post. Our style is not, historically, what TP bought. It's Matthews, Greenhoff, Hudson, Conroy, Chamberlain, etc player's that excite. It was not TP who destroyed all that but Richie Barker!  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2019 11:08:14 GMT
Need to sort the backroom staff out pretty sharpish as well, it dragged on for far too long when we appointed Rowett.....
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 9, 2019 11:09:09 GMT
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Post by marcofstoke on Jan 9, 2019 11:11:34 GMT
Nathan Jones, we’ve been gone to long Takes us back to where we belong.... It’s work in progress 😂 It certainly is and it’s TOO FFS  |
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Post by robrigo on Jan 9, 2019 11:13:07 GMT
Nathan Jones, we’ve been gone to long Takes us back to where we belong.... It’s work in progress 😂 It certainly is and it’s TOO FFS 😂 I think I’ll leave it to the more creative ones amongst us! |
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Post by pavel on Jan 9, 2019 11:17:38 GMT
Whilst the style of play is certainly important for al clubs and their fans it carries significance at Stoke City, in my opinion. This is purely due to our recent, and arguably our most transformative, period of history. As fans we backed TP and were unified once as to the achievements he attained at our helm. However, between the cage, the bonus games and binary ball he lost many supporters. I like to think that those that he lost were the supporters that bought into his Evolution NOT Revolution mantra. When the progression failed to materialise, following his midweek Wigan experiment I tend to think, he instead galvanised in his front of house fortress stance. Which inevitably and regrettably led to his demise and fall from grace for the supported that reluctantly relinquished their backing of a man that had done so much for the club and the city. Unsurprisingly TP still has stern and avid supporters amoungst our fanbase that would find solace in a Sam or Moyes appointment. The safety blanket and the familiar comfort it would provide is certainly alluring. Yet our Board have aimed for something different, something progressive. I like to think that this is because they know the club’s fans better than we give them credit for. Mainly because they are as big a fans as any of us. Peter Coates has decades of support over me. I think that they realise, on reflection of Rowett’s tenure, that on mass our tolerance for turgid, caged and none progressive football has been eroded over the last decade, albeit apart from an all too brief stint under Hughes. Sam and Moyes were harangued out of their last positions by supporters that haven’t endured or experienced a TP era. The Board know that they weren’t what was needed. GOAAAAAAARN STOKE Excellent post. Our style is not, historically, what TP bought. It's Matthews, Greenhoff, Hudson, Conroy, Chamberlain, etc player's that excite. It was not TP who destroyed all that but Richie Barker! Absolutely at times under Waddington, in the teams pomp, we were incredibly open and attacking, we were a joy to watch. My dad watched the earlier great Stoke teams at the time of Steele, Franklin (a footballing centre half), Soo, et al who nearly, so nearly won the league. Pulis's football was a blip in our history not the norm. |
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Post by devondumpling on Jan 9, 2019 11:17:46 GMT
He's going to need at least 18 months with this squad. Give him time. x2 |
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Post by Old School Stokie on Jan 9, 2019 11:18:04 GMT
Mark Hughes was appointed on the basis that 1. he would play a more progressive and attacking system than Pulis & 2. He had good international connections.
What they didnt know, but should have done was his defensive systems and knowledge was Shite.
Hope we dont go for someone who is more attacking, but defensively naive, especially against a better quality opposition than League 1
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Post by clarkeda on Jan 9, 2019 11:18:14 GMT
Lambert should have been on a 6 month contract with an extension if he succeeded in what he was briefed to do in that short time. The fact he was given 2.5 years was a bad joke on the board's part. I’m convinced he was on a 6 month, with a 2 year extension if he kept us up. Wrapped as a 2.5 year deal for ‘stability’. |
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Post by The man from Utch on Jan 9, 2019 11:18:56 GMT
Nathan, Stop Jonesing around and sign on the dotted line.
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Post by Kenilworth_Stokies on Jan 9, 2019 11:19:11 GMT
It's a bold appointment, having poached a young and ambitious manager from a lower League club. But then, that's how I felt the day we appointed Steve Cunterill, so let's hope it works out better this time around.
P.S. the poster Kenilworth Cat on the Luton board is not me, despite my avatar.
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Post by desman2 on Jan 9, 2019 11:20:40 GMT
It's a bold appointment, having poached a young and ambitious manager from a lower League club. But then, that's how I felt the day we appointed Steve Cunterill, so let's hope it works out better this time around. Bet they wont give him a car for at least 6 months. |
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Post by onefatcopper on Jan 9, 2019 11:21:25 GMT
Is history about to repeat itself ? Stoke relegated from the top flight, fans not happy with the management and humiliating team performances decide to act by dispensing with the current manager and announcing the appointment of Mr Alan Durban ! The young Welshman is in the new young and upcoming breed of Manager and has a tremendous record in the lower leagues with Shrewsbury Town ?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2019 11:25:01 GMT
Watched an interesting interview with Eden Hazard the other day who, despite seemingly like a decent guy and vastly knowledgeable about the game, insisted he wouldn't go into coaching because attacking players didn't usually make good coaches. This was probably true of Hughes, hopefully Jones is different being a defender.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 9, 2019 11:26:07 GMT
Lambert should have been on a 6 month contract with an extension if he succeeded in what he was briefed to do in that short time. The fact he was given 2.5 years was a bad joke on the board's part. You are wrong. There was a break clause inserted into lamberts contract and it was activated. The 2 and a half years was only to give him an authority with the players that he was the boss. It cost us nowt to get rid of him. |
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Post by djduncanjames on Jan 9, 2019 11:28:03 GMT
So do we think the Carto connection is significant? I do, yes. At a guess, I'd say he's under a bit of pressure with this appointment. How so? I know they were teammates or whatever but what does that really mean? |
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Post by loosestools on Jan 9, 2019 11:30:42 GMT
Song: Billy Paul - 'Me and Nathan Jones - we got a thing - going on'
But it would get sung too fast in Block 19.
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