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Post by berahinosgoals on Jan 9, 2019 9:58:35 GMT
These are not his players granted, but people happily used the theory that our ex prem players were good enough to be doing better even though they were not Rowetts players. So why doesn't this apply to the new manager? After all, afobe is a proven goalscorer at this level, so is ince, woods is a decent footballer. If we are sacking Rowett because he should be getting better out of this group why shouldn't the new man? Rowett may have spent £40m but the new man get these so called pre rowett ex prem players + rowetts 40m worth? If it's to be believed aswell our players suit his system like a glove, 442 diamond? Because as I said the new man won’t get the luxury of a pre-season, won’t have the same budget and won’t get as much time to assess the squad and impose a completely new style of play, all with the pressure to hit the ground running. It’s a weird time to be introducing a ‘project’ appointment. It is a weird time. I've always had the opinion Rowett needed a couple of summers such was the mess we were in. I like the gift wrapping and description of the football of jones, who wouldn't. Too many question marks for my liking though.. it makes no sensible logic to me to a sack a manager mid season in his first season to replace him with a further gamble at a crucial point when you have a manager like David moyes available who has managed the likes of man Utd in recent times. Fair enough, if Rowett isn't doing it but at least replace him with 'proven' on the big stage, an upgrade if you like
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Jan 9, 2019 9:58:45 GMT
With his attachment to the midfield diamond, is it the end of McClean? Could see a place for Ince who's more rounded - but hard to see a spot for such a wingery winger as McClean maybe? Attacking left back maybe
With the way he tackles hacks at people's legs and gets booked every chance he gets??
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 9, 2019 9:59:03 GMT
Their forum is dreadful,still under the impression he’s going nowhere and we’ve tapped him up illegally 🤔
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Post by Ursemboy on Jan 9, 2019 9:59:13 GMT
If it’s Nathan let’s get behind him. A positive appointment given the shite served up on the pitch by players who are better than that. We can still make the playoffs, plenty of games to go. Nathan Jones you’ve been gone too long
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Post by mrred on Jan 9, 2019 10:00:19 GMT
If he brings some semblance of pride, hope and attacking football back to the club, them I'm happy. We've been missing all 3 for 3 years now. Let's be fucking having it.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 9, 2019 10:00:46 GMT
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Post by nutterpotter on Jan 9, 2019 10:01:19 GMT
Haha maybe I got a bit carried away! But Luton have been one of the top scorers in English league football over the past year or two.
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Post by SCFC92 on Jan 9, 2019 10:01:24 GMT
Their forum is dreadful,still under the impression he’s going nowhere and we’ve tapped him up illegally 🤔 We haven't tapped him up illegally. There has been absolute silence from the board other than announcing Rowetts departure. We are conducting ourselves in exactly the way that is required, within the laws of the game. The Luton fans are worried by this, the lads I work with are resigned to him going and have said we have the chance to go extremely far if he is given time. I'm excited!
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 9, 2019 10:02:23 GMT
Their forum is dreadful,still under the impression he’s going nowhere and we’ve tapped him up illegally 🤔 We haven't tapped him up illegally. There has been absolute silence from the board other than announcing Rowetts departure. We are conducting ourselves in exactly the way that is required, within the laws of the game. The Luton fans are worried by this, the lads I work with are resigned to him going and have said we have the chance to go extremely far if he is given time. I'm excited! Mate I agree I’m just posting what they’re saying👍
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Post by canadianmoose on Jan 9, 2019 10:02:34 GMT
I hope the cheque book is open for players as well because if this guy wants fast attacking football he’s going to need a defence that doesn’t open up like a whores legs.
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Post by SCFC92 on Jan 9, 2019 10:03:49 GMT
We haven't tapped him up illegally. There has been absolute silence from the board other than announcing Rowetts departure. We are conducting ourselves in exactly the way that is required, within the laws of the game. The Luton fans are worried by this, the lads I work with are resigned to him going and have said we have the chance to go extremely far if he is given time. I'm excited! Mate I agree I’m just posting what they’re saying👍 No finger pointed to you from me either RE the comments, just replying to their comments without being bothered to register on that awful forum! Im sure some of them are reading the Oatie throughout this
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Post by mamasgloves on Jan 9, 2019 10:04:39 GMT
These are not his players granted, but people happily used the theory that our ex prem players were good enough to be doing better even though they were not Rowetts players. So why doesn't this apply to the new manager? After all, afobe is a proven goalscorer at this level, so is ince, woods is a decent footballer. If we are sacking Rowett because he should be getting better out of this group why shouldn't the new man? Rowett may have spent £40m but the new man get these so called pre rowett ex prem players + rowetts 40m worth? If it's to be believed aswell our players suit his system like a glove, 442 diamond? Because as I said the new man won’t get the luxury of a pre-season, won’t have the same budget and won’t get as much time to assess the squad and impose a completely new style of play, all with the pressure to hit the ground running. It’s a weird time to be introducing a ‘project’ appointment. True, though I read earlier that when he joined Luton it was mid-season and he preferred that over having all summer and enjoyed the challenge of hitting the ground running
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Post by realstokebloke on Jan 9, 2019 10:05:10 GMT
Although I understand the logic to some degree, I am so, so pleased that we haven't gone down the dinosaur route: Moyes, Fat Sam or worse, MON.
I am gutted though that, on the face of it, we didn't try a lot, lot harder to get Jokanovic.
Obviously we don't know how absolute the "no" was from him but I think the form of words being settled on since, seems to be that he declined the chance to talk to Stoke or that he was unhappy that the club wanted to interview him (as opposed, I assume, to him just being given the job over the phone).
So while I am pleased that he was apparently our no 1 target (suggests the board do know what they are doing) I just think he would have been worth a bit more effort expended on the courtship.
That said, if as others have noted, the bigger names say "no", who you gonna call?
And if that's Jones, while I can see all the potential downsides, I'm more than happy to see if he can be as good for us as he has been for Luton.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 9, 2019 10:07:01 GMT
Rowett to Luton🤔
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 9, 2019 10:07:10 GMT
Because as I said the new man won’t get the luxury of a pre-season, won’t have the same budget and won’t get as much time to assess the squad and impose a completely new style of play, all with the pressure to hit the ground running. It’s a weird time to be introducing a ‘project’ appointment. It is a weird time. I've always had the opinion Rowett needed a couple of summers such was the mess we were in. I like the gift wrapping and description of the football of jones, who wouldn't. Too many question marks for my liking though.. it makes no sensible logic to me to a sack a manager mid season in his first season to replace him with a further gamble at a crucial point when you have a manager like David moyes available who has managed the likes of man Utd in recent times. Fair enough, if Rowett isn't doing it but at least replace him with 'proven' on the big stage, an upgrade if you like Rowett wasn’t going to change, he made that abundantly clear. Managers generally don’t. His position was untenable.
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Post by geoff321 on Jan 9, 2019 10:07:41 GMT
Good choice in my opinion, although lets hope his next game in the Potteries is happier than his last one, Vale 4 Luton O.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 9, 2019 10:07:58 GMT
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Post by wrighter on Jan 9, 2019 10:08:08 GMT
This appointment [if true] could be a fantastic coup or a dramatic fail
Im ever an optimist, and think it could be a marvellous thing for the club !!
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Post by PotteringThrough on Jan 9, 2019 10:08:53 GMT
Although I understand the logic to some degree, I am so, so pleased that we haven't gone down the dinosaur route: Moyes, Fat Sam or worse, MON.
I am gutted though that, on the face of it, we didn't try a lot, lot harder to get Jokanovic.
I do think our location was a big factor for Jokanovic (no proof, just gut instinct). Whether we definitely made contact or not I think we'll have a much better understanding about this when he does take another job.
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Jan 9, 2019 10:08:54 GMT
It’s looking like it’s pretty much done isn’t it? I don’t know whether to congratulate the board for being courageous and doing something different, rather than going for the same old dinosaurs on the same old merry go round. Or to berate the board for taking an almighty gamble with the clubs future at this critical juncture in our history. Get it right and it’s a master stroke. Get it wrong and we could be looking at a considerable time in the wilderness again as our money runs out. This is massive and I don’t know enough about Jones to form an informed opinion. But fuck it. As Del Boy says, he who dares, wins! Onwards and upwards with Nathan Jones. You’ve got my full backing and patience if you become a Potter mate. You’ll be taking over a fantastic club with a fan base that’s as passionate as you could wish for. It could be a match made in Heaven. "And I was thinking to myself 'This could be heaven or this could be Hell'" Welcome to the Hotel California! "You can check out any time you like, But you can never leave!'" Personally, the unknown is exciting!
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Post by pavel on Jan 9, 2019 10:09:01 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 9, 2019 10:10:13 GMT
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Post by berahinosgoals on Jan 9, 2019 10:10:26 GMT
It is a weird time. I've always had the opinion Rowett needed a couple of summers such was the mess we were in. I like the gift wrapping and description of the football of jones, who wouldn't. Too many question marks for my liking though.. it makes no sensible logic to me to a sack a manager mid season in his first season to replace him with a further gamble at a crucial point when you have a manager like David moyes available who has managed the likes of man Utd in recent times. Fair enough, if Rowett isn't doing it but at least replace him with 'proven' on the big stage, an upgrade if you like Rowett wasn’t going to change, he made that abundantly clear. Managers generally don’t. His position was untenable. Fair enough but replace him with an upgrade. I'm struggling to see where we go from here manager wise if this fails, we'll be even less attractive. Give it moyes now imo and back him in the summer. I don't believe a club of our stature can't attract 'proven' at this moment in time. We (The shit show) want a lapdog,
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2019 10:10:31 GMT
Have heard that they have approached the Grimsby manager.
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Post by BristolMick on Jan 9, 2019 10:11:10 GMT
It’s looking like it’s pretty much done isn’t it? I don’t know whether to congratulate the board for being courageous and doing something different, rather than going for the same old dinosaurs on the same old merry go round. Or to berate the board for taking an almighty gamble with the clubs future at this critical juncture in our history. Get it right and it’s a master stroke. Get it wrong and we could be looking at a considerable time in the wilderness again as our money runs out. This is massive and I don’t know enough about Jones to form an informed opinion. But fuck it. As Del Boy says, he who dares, wins! Onwards and upwards with Nathan Jones. You’ve got my full backing and patience if you become a Potter mate. You’ll be taking over a fantastic club with a fan base that’s as passionate as you could wish for. It could be a match made in Heaven. ‘Fortune favours the brave’ Those who are scared to fail will achieve nothing ’ I think if Jones is appointed it shows both courage and ambition and that the board should be greatly applauded for that. BM
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 9, 2019 10:11:54 GMT
Have heard that they have approached the Grimsby manager. Another bloke that was on the verge of the sack not long ago Mr Jolly
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 9, 2019 10:13:02 GMT
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Post by ursemboys on Jan 9, 2019 10:13:37 GMT
Their forum is dreadful,still under the impression he’s going nowhere and we’ve tapped him up illegally 🤔 We haven't tapped him up illegally. There has been absolute silence from the board other than announcing Rowetts departure. We are conducting ourselves in exactly the way that is required, within the laws of the game. The Luton fans are worried by this, the lads I work with are resigned to him going and have said we have the chance to go extremely far if he is given time. I'm excited! I just hope to god we give him time and not rip in to him after the first defeat
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Post by stokeykez on Jan 9, 2019 10:14:05 GMT
It’s looking like it’s pretty much done isn’t it? I don’t know whether to congratulate the board for being courageous and doing something different, rather than going for the same old dinosaurs on the same old merry go round. Or to berate the board for taking an almighty gamble with the clubs future at this critical juncture in our history. Get it right and it’s a master stroke. Get it wrong and we could be looking at a considerable time in the wilderness again as our money runs out. This is massive and I don’t know enough about Jones to form an informed opinion. But fuck it. As Del Boy says, he who dares, wins! Onwards and upwards with Nathan Jones. You’ve got my full backing and patience if you become a Potter mate. You’ll be taking over a fantastic club with a fan base that’s as passionate as you could wish for. It could be a match made in Heaven. Exactly and I'm off to get my cup ticket
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Post by Ursemboy on Jan 9, 2019 10:14:09 GMT
This appointment [if true] could be a fantastic coup or a dramatic fail Im ever an optimist, and think it could be a marvellous thing for the club !! Will be marvellous, totally agree
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