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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2019 8:35:15 GMT
Never mind not heard if him, I didn't realise Luton had hauled themselves back out of the Confrence. It would be a laughable appointment. An official announcement that the club is moving to a stage of managed decline. In short we've thrown in the towel. Once again, says more about your ignorance if you didn’t know Luton were in League One. He’s embarrassing himself more with every post here.
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Post by Northy on Jan 9, 2019 8:35:30 GMT
The bloke got 8 out of 753 votes on the poll. I doubt anybody had ever heard of him 24 hours ago. We're now up in arms that he's the saviour of our club and the mess we're in at the moment. I'm not sure how all that computes. I was one of those votes, so at least 8 people had heard of him before then. A shame that the supporters don't look too much outside our own patch at times to see what other clubs are doing ?
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Post by lordb on Jan 9, 2019 8:36:07 GMT
Never mind not heard if him, I didn't realise Luton had hauled themselves back out of the Confrence. It would be a laughable appointment. An official announcement that the club is moving to a stage of managed decline. In short we've thrown in the towel. Once again, says more about your ignorance if you didn’t know Luton were in League One. Not just 'in it's but second above teams with bigger budgets scoring second highest number of goals joint best defence playing exciting attacking football fans uniformly saying he's their best manager for decades and regularly dishing out size and seven goal hamnerings. Yup we've thrown the towel in...
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Post by Northy on Jan 9, 2019 8:38:40 GMT
Says more about our ignorance than Nathan Jones’ capability, surely? Never mind not heard if him, I didn't realise Luton had hauled themselves back out of the Confrence. It would be a laughable appointment. An official announcement that the club is moving to a stage of managed decline. In short we've thrown in the towel. Or shows how narrow minded some supporters are, like yourself, by saying you thought they were still in the conference you shouldn't give opinions on him or any potential manager then should you, it's just plain negativity for the sake of it isn't it?
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Post by TinkerT on Jan 9, 2019 8:39:03 GMT
Don't believe everything you read, the club met someone last night and again this morning. Something will be announced in next few days. Moyes HAS already held talks and was at 2 of rowetts last 3 games in charge. Wilder is also unhappy at sheff u.
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Post by Gods on Jan 9, 2019 8:41:43 GMT
Never mind not heard if him, I didn't realise Luton had hauled themselves back out of the Confrence. It would be a laughable appointment. An official announcement that the club is moving to a stage of managed decline. In short we've thrown in the towel. Once again, says more about your ignorance if you didn’t know Luton were in League One. You're missing the point. It doesn't matter about me, but I think we need a manager who can get the ear of better prospective players, from overseas, loans from Prem clubs etc. Someone with some gravitas and a name in the game.
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Post by Northy on Jan 9, 2019 8:41:44 GMT
I can’t help but feel this is a mistake and complete misjudgment of the current situations we find ourselves in at the moment. I don’t doubt for one second that Nathan Jones is an excellent manager, the Luton fans absolutely adore him. But the chap hasn’t got no experience at this level. I feel we need a manager with at least 10 years of experience, we need to turn the ship around first, this is a rebuild job. With that, I support the appointment of David Moyes. If Jones does get the job I’ll back him 100%, this could be a make or break decision for the club for he foreseeable future, let’s hope they get it right. he's been 1st team coach and assistant manager at Brighton (and caretaker manager), so he has got experience coaching players at this level.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 9, 2019 8:43:01 GMT
Once again, says more about your ignorance if you didn’t know Luton were in League One. You're missing the point. It doesn't matter about me, but I think we need a manager who can get the ear of better prospective players, from overseas, loans from Prem clubs etc. Someone with some gravitas and a name in the game. Who would you have gone for if Moyes, Sam and Jokanovic said no (which I assume they did?) though, Gods?
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jan 9, 2019 8:44:10 GMT
As for the votes. Just because only 8 people voted for Jones it doesn't therefore mean everyone else didn't know who he was. I knew who he was but voted elsewhere, one of the reasons was I just didn't think the club would go for a gamble.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2019 8:44:28 GMT
I can’t help but feel this is a mistake and complete misjudgment of the current situations we find ourselves in at the moment. I don’t doubt for one second that Nathan Jones is an excellent manager, the Luton fans absolutely adore him. But the chap hasn’t got no experience at this level. I feel we need a manager with at least 10 years of experience, we need to turn the ship around first, this is a rebuild job. With that, I support the appointment of David Moyes. If Jones does get the job I’ll back him 100%, this could be a make or break decision for the club for he foreseeable future, let’s hope they get it right. he's been 1st team coach and assistant manager at Brighton (and caretaker manager), so he has got experience coaching players at this level. Nor do you get invited to coach with the England 21s if you don’t know what you’re doing...I’m not sure when it was but he could therefore potentially already be known to Butland and Bera.
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Post by Gods on Jan 9, 2019 8:44:29 GMT
But I suppose the problem we have right now is we are like a couple in their 50's going to a swingers party and hoping to cop off with Scarlett Johansson!
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Post by Meirparkstokie on Jan 9, 2019 8:45:01 GMT
I don't think you can blame people for having reservations really can you. On the one hand it's a bold and an exciting dip into the unknown with a young, ambitious, attacking coach. On the other it's the cheap option with someone who may very well be overwhelmed by the job and will be bullied by our recruitment processes and the internal dick swinging of our discredited executives. Where's your money? Yeah there’s risk, no doubt about it, but the club has played it safe for far to long, gone for the steady eddy, tried and tested approach, the merry go round manager. We have been the antithesis of bold and innovative and in the end been overtaken by clubs like Watford, Bournemouth ad even Brighton (for the moment at least). Being bold is long overdue as long as the risks are understood, Jones would have to spectacularly fail to take us down this season so perhaps it the right time to gamble. We certainly can’t keep on stagnating. Whatever we do it’s a risk. Maybe the fact that 20,000 fans were singing “GR your football is shit” the board are thinking “OK we’ll give you what your asking for then”. If the risk blows up in our face though they may turn round and blame the fans. In this case it’s almost risk free for the board. Almost be careful what you wish for...
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Post by djduncanjames on Jan 9, 2019 8:45:35 GMT
Don't believe everything you read, the club met someone last night and again this morning. Something will be announced in next few days. Moyes HAS already held talks and was at 2 of rowetts last 3 games in charge. Wilder is also unhappy at sheff u. I'm not buying a word of this
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Post by MrFlirty on Jan 9, 2019 8:46:25 GMT
Whoever ends up in what is a very hot seat will take at least 4 weeks of watching players train to decided who he wants to start to use. This obviously has an effect on the transfer market and any chance of bringing in who the manager thinks he needs. As others have said, this season is a write of and its all about stability now and preparing for next season. If we all have that mind set then maybe we will enjoy the ride a bit more. Obviously if we reach the play offs and go up I will be happy but think that would be too soon.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2019 8:47:07 GMT
Don't believe everything you read, the club met someone last night and again this morning. Something will be announced in next few days. Moyes HAS already held talks and was at 2 of rowetts last 3 games in charge. Wilder is also unhappy at sheff u. I'm not buying a word of this You are right not to.
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Post by Northy on Jan 9, 2019 8:47:54 GMT
Once again, says more about your ignorance if you didn’t know Luton were in League One. You're missing the point. It doesn't matter about me, but I think we need a manager who can get the ear of better prospective players, from overseas, loans from Prem clubs etc. Someone with some gravitas and a name in the game. he's been involved at 2 clubs in Spain in the past, maybe he still has contacts over there ? I liked the way in his first summer, after missing out in promotion in the play offs, he basically got rid of 1 team and brought a new one in, so he must have contacts, knowledge and scouts around. The first league game of the season with the new team, they scored 8 at home in one match.
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Post by SCFC92 on Jan 9, 2019 8:48:04 GMT
Once again, says more about your ignorance if you didn’t know Luton were in League One. He’s embarrassing himself more with every post here. It will take something completely different to fix this club, fresh ideas and this bloke brings them. He is an extremely determined bloke who plays open attacking football. If this works out it will spell an extremely exciting period for us. So why not take the risk. Luton have been on the rise for some time now, and I follow them closely and have attended a few matches, this bloke has premier league potential which is where we sit. Don't be ignorant to other clubs simply because they aren't fashionable. It really has turned with some people into those we despised some years ago.
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Post by Davef on Jan 9, 2019 8:48:53 GMT
Once again, says more about your ignorance if you didn’t know Luton were in League One. You're missing the point. It doesn't matter about me, but I think we need a manager who can get the ear of better prospective players, from overseas, loans from Prem clubs etc. Someone with some gravitas and a name in the game. Yeah, because overseas players and Prem loans have served us soooooo well over the past couple of years haven't they?
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Post by Gods on Jan 9, 2019 8:49:42 GMT
You're missing the point. It doesn't matter about me, but I think we need a manager who can get the ear of better prospective players, from overseas, loans from Prem clubs etc. Someone with some gravitas and a name in the game. Who would you have gone for if Moyes, Sam and Jokanovic said no (which I assume they did?) though, Gods? Honestly I don't know. I wouldn't have started from here. I would have given Hughes the chance to find the extra 4 points we needs to stay in the Prem and looked last summer if he failed. But we are where we are and I don't have an answer, only a sense we are heading for mote trouble.
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Post by Goonie on Jan 9, 2019 8:49:48 GMT
I'd like to see Nathan Jones (you've been gone too long) and Nigel Pearson as our new management team. Electro convulsive Therapy could be incorporated into the training programme at Clayton Wood. I think electrodes on a few bollocks would be far more motivational 😁
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Post by Veritas on Jan 9, 2019 8:49:57 GMT
Yeah there’s risk, no doubt about it, but the club has played it safe for far to long, gone for the steady eddy, tried and tested approach, the merry go round manager. We have been the antithesis of bold and innovative and in the end been overtaken by clubs like Watford, Bournemouth ad even Brighton (for the moment at least). Being bold is long overdue as long as the risks are understood, Jones would have to spectacularly fail to take us down this season so perhaps it the right time to gamble. We certainly can’t keep on stagnating. Whatever we do it’s a risk. Maybe the fact that 20,000 fans were singing “GR your football is shit” the board are thinking “OK we’ll give you what your asking for then”. If the risk blows up in our face though they may turn round and blame the fans. In this case it’s almost risk free for the board. Almost be careful what you wish for... The board will not make an appointment based on being able to somehow blame the fans if it goes wrong. The decision will be based on who they feel is the best available option to get us in a position to challenge for promotion, there decision may turn out to be another stinker but it will be made with the best of intentions.
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Post by savagescfc on Jan 9, 2019 8:51:56 GMT
Darren Moore has never managed at this level but he’s doing a pretty decent job. I’m glad Rowett has gone and if it is Jones I’m cautiously optimistic and excited.
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Post by haway on Jan 9, 2019 8:52:01 GMT
Very good manager and has certainly impressed in league one. Luton have some quality players too for league one who could make the step up to the championship, so you should sign them. Can you do it quick though? We’re playing Luton on Saturday. Cheers!
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Post by westgatelakes on Jan 9, 2019 8:53:27 GMT
All I`d say folks is we`ve got to get fully behind whoever is appointed as our next manager and give him time to impress his tactics and style of football on to the players.
This is likely to require patience at least for the rest of this season as turning a sows ear into a silk purse will not happen overnight.
I think at least 2 transfer windows are necessary to refresh our ailing squad and address the lack of pace at both ends of the pitch, not to mention the shortage of goals throughout the team.
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Post by WhyDelilah on Jan 9, 2019 8:58:05 GMT
He’s got a free hit until the end of the season. If you believe that, you are deluded.
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Post by sheds1862 on Jan 9, 2019 8:58:23 GMT
Very good manager and has certainly impressed in league one. Luton have some quality players too for league one who could make the step up to the championship, so you should sign them. Can you do it quick though? We’re playing Luton on Saturday. Cheers! Is it right you had 17'000 last night? Any crowd trouble?
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Post by berahinosgoals on Jan 9, 2019 8:58:53 GMT
All I`d say folks is we`ve got to get fully behind whoever is appointed as our next manager and give him time to impress his tactics and style of football on to the players. This is likely to require patience at least for the rest of this season as turning a sows ear into a silk purse will not happen overnight. I think at least 2 transfer windows are necessary to refresh our ailing squad and address the lack of pace at both ends of the pitch, not to mention the shortage of goals throughout the team. Considering the vitrol to rowett & demand for instant success from game one, this beggars belief it really does. What happened to this squad should be in the playoffs, best squad in the league etc etc, now its a case of being patient? This is bill gates rich this is.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 9, 2019 8:58:55 GMT
Lawrence was on Radio Stoke this morning
"I had a call last night from a friend in the industry and he tells me the deal is now more or less done and are just sorting things out with Luton"
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Post by nutterpotter on Jan 9, 2019 8:59:16 GMT
He’s got a free hit until the end of the season. If you believe that, you are deluded. Need to start thinking more long-term
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Post by Onneravineet on Jan 9, 2019 9:00:11 GMT
If he is the man welcome on board and good luck fella, you'll need it. 8 months ago we were in the Premier League ( dying embers ), he was getting his first promotion as a League 2 manager. Staggering that this is where we are at. Can't knock the job he has done there and hopefully he is the right fit. Watch a lot of Quest and he is a manager of little dignity, berating pitches, refs, any excuse really. Doesn't come across well, almost a clone of Rowett with his arrogance and smugness. The thing is we can abide that if he gets results. Huge ask to resurrect anything from this seasons car crash so a period of stability until August and he can then recruit for how he wants to play. A leftfield appointment, not sure what part of Jokanovic CV with 2 promotions didn't fit our mandate but hey ho, welcome Nathan if it is confirmed. Jokanovic didn’t want the job mate I agree Wez, he didn’t as he turned down the opportunity to be involved in the process. The lazy bastard journos saying “he was first choice” pisses me off. He was invited to the process and declined the invitation. That’s all.
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