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Post by flea79 on Jan 8, 2019 23:28:06 GMT
I’m sorry I can’t see Nathan Jones picture and not see this  |
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Post by jezzascfc on Jan 8, 2019 23:28:12 GMT
I have been told Jones is "done and dusted" by a source I trust.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2019 23:29:30 GMT
Luton were top scorers in League 2 last season by 15 goals, with 94 in 46 (  ), joint best defence in the league too with 46 in 46 conceded. This season they're top scorers in league 1 with 49 in 26, and second best defence in the league with 24 conceded in 26. I'm all for it at this point. We have Afobe and Berahino. Goals aren’t a part of their repertoire. Both have scored a lot of goals at least at some point in their career. Saido looks to be a man reborn, and far sharper this season. Luton currently have 2 players with 10 in 20 odd games. We've got Afobe with 7 in 20, Saido with 5 in 20, mostly on the wing, and Ince with 6 in 20. And that's with a manager who refuses to play a creative player near them. Our team is not as bad as it seems. |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 8, 2019 23:29:36 GMT
Liam Roseiner “Nathan Jones is a great training ground coach and would be s great appointment for Stoke” Totally unbiased of course he's only his mate, he didn't give a definite answer to the question either. Danny mills said Jack shit. Danny Mills😄You mean Murphy🤔 |
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Post by Goonie on Jan 8, 2019 23:29:40 GMT
I have been told Jones is "done and dusted" by a source I trust. 😱 set faces to 'stun' |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2019 23:30:33 GMT
I have been told Jones is "done and dusted" by a source I trust. Same source as Crouchie? |
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Post by Gods on Jan 8, 2019 23:30:42 GMT
Woo hoo that'll be us in League 1 😁 He’s on his way out of League 1 without our help so I don’t see why he’d relegate us No he's not. Portsmouth are going up and Sunderland will move in the 2nd automatic spot when they avoid defeat in their game in hand. He'll have a punchers chance in the play-offs. It's a laughable appointment if we make it. A semi-literate, born again, God botherer from League's 3 and 4, taking on a club who spent the last 10 years in the Premier League. If we do hire him I can't see any happy end to it. |
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Post by scfcwebby on Jan 8, 2019 23:30:44 GMT
Blimey when you look at that message board, you realise how lucky we are to have platform like this. How on earth do they keep up with it? I gave up after 5 minutes. The worst message board lay out/format I have ever seen Completely unusable |
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Post by Uncle cheese on Jan 8, 2019 23:31:21 GMT
Liam Roseiner “Nathan Jones is a great training ground coach and would be s great appointment for Stoke” Totally unbiased of course he's only his mate, he didn't give a definite answer to the question either. Danny mills said Jack shit. Danny mills wasn’t on the show |
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Post by stokeykez on Jan 8, 2019 23:32:09 GMT
Listening to higginbothams comments on sky sports. Very strong words about the club and players, bloody hope the next manager gets that bounce we've missed for the last 2 managers
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2019 23:32:43 GMT
Young I'll grant you....but on the up? If you analyse his managerial career: Burton - lost in playoffs twice so achieved nothing other steadying a sinking ship. Also over saw two 7-1 defeats, the heaviest in the clubs League history. Left. Birmingham - steadied a sinking ship. Achieved nothing. Sacked. Derby - probably his best spell but many talked of him as being a bit of a bottle job in the big games. Left. Stoke - heavily backed. Seemed a fish out of water. Mental comments in the press. Turgid horrible football. Sacked. Not a great CV really, although I accept it could be spun to be more positive and certainly was when he joined. I was tempted with his appointment in Jan last year as we needed the kind of manager he was. I wasnt so sure in the summer. Whereas Jones Pre Luton was invited to join up with the England under 21s as he has been recognised as an up and coming coach...working with none other than good old Saido 😂 However, appointed and wins 9 from first 15 games to steady the ship. Achieves promotion playing attacking football. Continues in same form and currently lies 2nd in table with the best GD outside the Prem and only worse than Man City and Liverpool if including it. Seems a hugely different animal. Backs himself and his players both on and off the pitch and has a promotion to show for it. His record at Luton is very good but so was Steve Davies at Crewe, in fact both very similar stories. Take a look and see what he's up to now. Mike Newells at Luton was too and he's never been seen since and you can add managers ad infinitum to the list. Football isn't played on paper but his record since Jan 2016, accepting it's at a lower level, is nothing short of remarkable. Free scoring and on for a second promotion in two years. Could it be a huge mistake. Yep course it could. Do I care. Nope. Because it could, just maybe, with a tweaking of our recruitment policy be a great decision. |
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Post by Goonie on Jan 8, 2019 23:33:15 GMT
I wonder if ghe club would offee Liam Lawrence an ambassadorial at the club
Why i like the cut of his jib i tells ya
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Post by stokeykez on Jan 8, 2019 23:34:18 GMT
We have Afobe and Berahino. Goals aren’t a part of their repertoire. Both have scored a lot of goals at least at some point in their career. Saido looks to be a man reborn, and far sharper this season. Luton currently have 2 players with 10 in 20 odd games. We've got Afobe with 7 in 20, Saido with 5 in 20, mostly on the wing, and Ince with 6 in 20. And that's with a manager who refuses to play a creative player near them. Our team is not as bad as it seems. We need to start and play our strikers to their strengths.. in fact all our players to their strengths |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2019 23:34:26 GMT
I'm very unsure about Jones but having seen the Luton stats over the past two seasons I'm becoming a little more optimistic that he could be a good appointment for us. Rowett just had to go (seems weeks ago already !) and Jones, if he does come, looks like chalk and cheese in comparison in his whole approach to the game.
I just hope he can gain the respect of the players and inspire them to start winning regularly and give us a chance of the playoffs. If we don't get there this season hopefully he'll have us set up for a proper effort next season.
If he doesn't agree to be manager I don't know who our next option is !
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Post by Gods on Jan 8, 2019 23:35:23 GMT
Liam Roseiner “Nathan Jones is a great training ground coach and would be s great appointment for Stoke” A sort of 'damned with faint praise' statement if ever there was one. I think we need a bit more than that in our predicament. A 'name' who can attract the best players to the club, someone to inspire, someone who the Board trust to spend their money etc. etc. I'd expect to find a good training ground coach among the new managers staff. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2019 23:35:23 GMT
He’s on his way out of League 1 without our help so I don’t see why he’d relegate us No he's not. Portsmouth are going up and Sunderland will move in the 2nd automatic spot when they avoid defeat in their game in hand. He'll have a punchers chance in the play-offs. It's a laughable appointment if we make it. A semi-literate, born again, God botherer from League's 3 and 4, taking on a club who spent the last 10 years in the Premier League. If we do hire him I can't see any happy end to it. I'm all for hating god, but even I don't think being religious affects your football management skills. |
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jan 8, 2019 23:36:29 GMT
I have been told Jones is "done and dusted" by a source I trust. Makes sense, they wouldn't have got rid of Rowett unless they had someone in the bag. |
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Post by jzime on Jan 8, 2019 23:36:38 GMT
He’s on his way out of League 1 without our help so I don’t see why he’d relegate us Because our Premiership players will have no respect for him. There is zero evidence that this will happen. And if any of the bunch of gutless players in our squad still have such an inflated opinion of themselves that can't deal with the fact that our next manager might be poached from the third tier, then I hope the board are fully prepared to fuck them all off and let the new manager build us a new squad. The fact that we've had three managers in 12 months all do a poor job tactically has allowed some the players to escape a lot of criticism that would be entirely deserved in other contexts. Whoever the next manager is (be it Nathan Jones, David Moyes or the Queen of fucking Sheba), they need to be given time now. As long as they can conduct a post-match interview without taking unnecessary pops at our fanbase, play a vaguely-attractive brand football, and can show some degree of promise in terms of results, they should be given time. This summer, a lot of fans (and I include myself in this) probably underestimated the scale of the rebuilding job that this club needs. Rowett wasn't the answer and the board were proactive enough to nip it in the bud once the fans turned. But now we need to give the new man time to stabilise us and rebuild us over a couple of seasons. |
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Post by Goonie on Jan 8, 2019 23:36:40 GMT
He’s on his way out of League 1 without our help so I don’t see why he’d relegate us No he's not. Portsmouth are going up and Sunderland will move in the 2nd automatic spot when they avoid defeat in their game in hand. He'll have a punchers chance in the play-offs. It's a laughable appointment if we make it. A semi-literate, born again, God botherer from League's 3 and 4, taking on a club who spent the last 10 years in the Premier League. If we do hire him I can't see any happy end to it. Thsts the spirit 😁😎 |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2019 23:36:46 GMT
Both have scored a lot of goals at least at some point in their career. Saido looks to be a man reborn, and far sharper this season. Luton currently have 2 players with 10 in 20 odd games. We've got Afobe with 7 in 20, Saido with 5 in 20, mostly on the wing, and Ince with 6 in 20. And that's with a manager who refuses to play a creative player near them. Our team is not as bad as it seems. We need to start and play our strikers to their strengths.. in fact all our players to their strengths Agreed. They need creativity around them, not Joe Allen around them. |
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Post by jezzascfc on Jan 8, 2019 23:36:47 GMT
I have been told Jones is "done and dusted" by a source I trust. Same source as Crouchie? Dunno who his is, but mine knows their Stoke stuff (with a history of knowing things in advance) and would not tell me if not true. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2019 23:37:24 GMT
There's 20 games to go, and we basically have given a 3 game start on 6th. That's a tough gig for any manager so I don't think expectations are high for this season. The next 20 games and the FA Cup are about seeing what he can do, both in terms of the players we have and performances on the pitch.
I honestly believe there is a massive relief for nearly all of the squad and if given the right direction and let off the chain will play some decent football for the remainder of this season..... to set us up for next season.
It will be interesting. But it will also be better than Rowett.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2019 23:37:26 GMT
Dunno who his is, but mine knows their Stoke stuff (with a history of knowing things in advance) and would not tell me if not true. Wonderful. |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 8, 2019 23:37:40 GMT
Liam Roseiner “Nathan Jones is a great training ground coach and would be s great appointment for Stoke” Someone who claims to be in the know suggests that if Jones arrives, the man with the biggest influence in bringing him here will be Cartwright. Allegedly together at Brighton and big mates. New man buys into chain of command and processes at club. Now there's a surprise! |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2019 23:39:46 GMT
Whatever you’re views on this are, whoever has changed this mans Wikipedia page after the table to say the below is a grade one knobhead. It’s clearly a Stoke fan and it’s just ridiculous and embarrassing “ He is expected to be announced as the new manager of Stoke City in the next 24-48hours, with a large portion of the Stoke fan base hugely disappointed at such an underwhelming appointment with fury being aimed at the Stoke City owners and board” en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathan_Jones_(Welsh_footballer) |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2019 23:40:09 GMT
Liam Roseiner “Nathan Jones is a great training ground coach and would be s great appointment for Stoke” Someone who claims to be in the know suggests that if Jones arrives, the man with the biggest influence in bringing him here will be Cartwright. Allegedly together at Brighton and big mates. New man buys into chain of command and processes at club. Now there's a surprise! No allegedly about it Dave. I posted it up this afternoon. Jones was there between 2000 and 2005 and Cartwright was there 00-01. Jones also signed Harry Isted at Luton, an ex Stoke youth goalkeeper. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2019 23:40:14 GMT
No he's not. Portsmouth are going up and Sunderland will move in the 2nd automatic spot when they avoid defeat in their game in hand. He'll have a punchers chance in the play-offs. It's a laughable appointment if we make it. A semi-literate, born again, God botherer from League's 3 and 4, taking on a club who spent the last 10 years in the Premier League. If we do hire him I can't see any happy end to it. I'm all for hating god, but even I don't think being religious affects your football management skills. I onna sure a bloke who speaks two languages can be semi literate either |
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Post by jezzascfc on Jan 8, 2019 23:40:16 GMT
Dunno who his is, but mine knows their Stoke stuff (with a history of knowing things in advance) and would not tell me if not true. Wonderful. Compo agreed with Luton and could be announced as early as tomorrow. We shall see - if not true, don't shoot the messenger. I just pass on what I, very occasionally, hear. |
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Post by Davef on Jan 8, 2019 23:41:18 GMT
Someone who claims to be in the know suggests that if Jones arrives, the man with the biggest influence in bringing him here will be Cartwright. Allegedly together at Brighton and big mates. New man buys into chain of command and processes at club. Now there's a surprise! No allegedly about it Dave. I posted it up this afternoon. Jones was there between 2000 and 2005 and Cartwright was there 00-01. Jones also signed Harry Isted at Luton, an ex Stoke youth goalkeeper. Win win then. Jones does well, we're all happy. Messes it up, it's open season on Carto! |
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Post by jzime on Jan 8, 2019 23:41:28 GMT
This appointment really screams ambition doesn't it?? 😂 To me it seems as if the coates family are appointing a cheap option and a potential yes man not only that if we fail to gain promotion then they'll be happy to linger in the championship for the foreseeable future "young and up and coming" he may be but so was rowett apparently look how that turned out. 🤷 There are an awful lot of things that you can criticise the board for over the last few years. Accusing them of going to 'cheap' options in terms of managers recently isn't one of them. They paid £2m for Rowett and gave him and a shitload of his staff three-year contracts (which the board have just terminated at a no doubt considerable cost). And now they're targeting a man who is in work again, and you have to imagine Luton will want every penny they can get out of us considering where they are in the league and what their next few fixtures are. The 'cheap' option would be to find somebody who isn't in work right now and would be desperate enough to sign a short(ish) contract on relatively low wages. |
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), joint best defence in the league too with 46 in 46 conceded.
