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Post by bayernoatcake on May 28, 2008 16:02:32 GMT
Another idiot with blinkered media views on the BNP... Look into it before making statements like "MOST OF THEM beleive that the holocaust never happened" I've voted for the BNP, and I beleive that it did happen and think the person in the BNP who made that statement is an idiot. I chose to Vote because they are the only party who shows loyalty to English people (not because of colour of skin or where you come from) its because we are ENGLISH and have every right to be pissed off with the way the country is run and how we are treated like a minority. Now everyone can slate me ect and call me a racist.. but Ive never said i want to kick anyone who isnt English out of the country, quite the opposite. I want all of the immigrants who live here to have a trade, and to have the financial security to live in England. Yes i know English people make up alot of the dole dossing percentage, but they are English so have every right to be here, as much as id like them fucked off else where. I would love this country to take Australias stance on immigration, but its too late for that now. So do the Indians and Pakistanis that are English citizens and have lived over here for 60 years deserve to stay here because they fought for the British Empire for our King to help us defeat the Nazi power of Germany. And we asked them over to help re-build the country. So do they have the right to stay? The Nazi party started off like the BNP. Look where that led them. |
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Post by DansViews on May 28, 2008 16:05:46 GMT
Did i say that they dont have the right to stay? They held down a job in the army, faught for this country and pobably paid their way. They do deserve to be here. Anyone wanting to come into this country should have a trade and money for them to survive without having to claim.
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Post by Tubes on May 28, 2008 16:09:24 GMT
Daisy that is bollox, I can't see Ricardo raping or mugging people & i can't see him living off benefits. what about the THOUSANDS of white "english" people on benefits in the local area? What about all the white "english" criminals? There are criminals and benefit cheats of every ethnic origin, to suggest that the problem is caused by Johnny foreigner is just trying to shift the blame to someone else. This is the rhetoric that allowed Hitler into power, blame the problems in society on a minority and try to cause the majority to unite behind him. I would have hoped the people of Stoke-on-Trent were able to see through the petty scaremongering (has anyone actually ever been stopped from singing Christmas carols, or banned from displaying a St Georges cross in their window?) and see the BNP for what they are: a bunch of racist tossers in suits with no real policies for bettering this country other than kicking out migrant workers. |
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Post by BrianLeicsStokie on May 28, 2008 16:09:39 GMT
Supporting the BNP does not make you racist, unless you call taking pride in your countrys heritage and trying to protect its future a racist trait???
Nick Griffin for PM.
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Post by DansViews on May 28, 2008 16:11:40 GMT
Tubes, no one is denying that there are English/White criminals and dossers. But they have a right to be in this country. The people that dont have a right to be here who are doing the same should be returned to their homeland.
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Post by peterthorne on May 28, 2008 16:17:40 GMT
jesus christ i never thought it would get that bad that i would ctualy have to worry about the bnp getting to any place in power.
i hate how these so called 'Patriots' go on about the state of the country and how their fathers or grandfathers would be turning in their graves , the only reason they would be turning in their grave was if the bnp (a party that is one of the closest to the nazis in party beliefs in britain do i have to remind you) came into power.
Also the bnp make me feel ashamed to be british and its sad that after stoke reaching the prem, i am starting to feel ashamed of being from stoke after it having the secound largest bnp following and im only 17!
meggsy, i see what you are saying about goverments such as labour needing to pull their finger out but we shouldnt have to have scumbags such as the bnp to show them to do that
for god sakes people who are members of the bnp are nothing but bigots and more importantly IDIOTS and we dont want people like that having a say how the country is run.
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Post by bettyswallocks on May 28, 2008 16:22:11 GMT
PT- your right we should'nt have to have these people to make them change their ways however this is what it has come to unfortunately. Things will get worse before they get better
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 28, 2008 16:23:32 GMT
Did i say that they dont have the right to stay? They held down a job in the army, faught for this country and pobably paid their way. They do deserve to be here. Anyone wanting to come into this country should have a trade and money for them to survive without having to claim. That's alright but when people claim to get rid of the Pakistanis it pisses me off. They have done a lot for our country and continue to offer a lot. |
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on May 28, 2008 16:32:15 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 28, 2008 16:38:51 GMT
Did i say that they dont have the right to stay? They held down a job in the army, faught for this country and pobably paid their way. They do deserve to be here. Anyone wanting to come into this country should have a trade and money for them to survive without having to claim. So the thousands of Brits in Spain that the loacals hate being there and have no right to be there but are, have the same right as these You want to boot out? |
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Post by DansViews on May 28, 2008 16:42:56 GMT
Bayern, im not a spanish citizen so I couldnt possibly comment.
But im sure many have the same feelings as me in spain. If they contribute to society and pay their own way, thats fine. If they want to scrounge, fuck them off we already have too many people doing it so we dont want any more.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 28, 2008 16:50:07 GMT
They generally don't see us as scroungers but as alcoholics who run a mock around their towns beating each other up.
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Post by Tubes on May 28, 2008 16:53:01 GMT
Look into it before making statements like "MOST OF THEM beleive that the holocaust never happened" I've voted for the BNP, and I beleive that it did happen and think the person in the BNP who made that statement is an idiot. Supporting the BNP does not make you racist, unless you call taking pride in your countrys heritage and trying to protect its future a racist trait??? Some quick facts: The BNP does not regard non-white people as being British, even if they have been born in the UK and are naturalized British citizens The BNP is opposed to mixed-race relationships on the stated ground that racial differences must be preserved are you seriously trying to tell me the BNP is not a racist party? They are racists in suits, the leadership is HEAVILY racist, despite trying to appear more liberal than they used to be in order to win seats. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 28, 2008 16:56:29 GMT
Look into it before making statements like "MOST OF THEM beleive that the holocaust never happened" I've voted for the BNP, and I beleive that it did happen and think the person in the BNP who made that statement is an idiot. Supporting the BNP does not make you racist, unless you call taking pride in your countrys heritage and trying to protect its future a racist trait??? Some quick facts: The BNP does not regard non-white people as being British, even if they have been born in the UK and are naturalized British citizens The BNP is opposed to mixed-race relationships on the stated ground that racial differences must be preserved are you seriously trying to tell me the BNP is not a racist party? They are racists in suits, the leadership is HEAVILY racist, despite trying to appear more liberal than they used to be in order to win seats. Oh dear! |
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Post by DansViews on May 28, 2008 16:56:56 GMT
Tubes, that was one person, can you give me the quotes from "MOST OF THEM", which was the point in my comment. Yes he is the leader, but you dont have to agree with everything te leader says do you?
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Post by Rebelliousjukebox on May 28, 2008 18:39:52 GMT
I have no problem whatsoever signing up to this petition. BNP are racist bastards, and anyone who says that they voted for them but "I'm not racist" is either lying, or stupid.
I'm also of the opinion that UKIP (BNP-lite), who now have 4 Councillors in N-u-L, are hardly any better.
The incompetency of the 3 main Parties in S-o-T, and the complacancy of Labour there, is unquestionable, but BNP is not a palatable alternative unless you're a racist.
Given, as the Guardian article says, there it is possible to envisage the BNP in power in S-o-T. Some may recall the famous quote from Pastor Martin Neimoller about the Nazis:-
"First they came for the Communists but I was not a Communist so I did not speak out. Then they came for the Socialists and the Trade Unionists but I was not one of them, so I did not speak out. Then they came for the Jews but I was not Jewish so I did not speak out. And when they came for me, there was no one left to speak out for me."
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Post by Cupid Stunt on May 28, 2008 18:58:32 GMT
I'm 16 and I can see that the BNP are exactly how Nazi germany started. I agree with Bayernoatcake and jukebox and tubes!
The BNP's policy is to basically get rid of anyone of a different ethnic background, so if you're not White British they want you out of the Country, simple as, if you vote BNP you are not being loyal to this country you are helping a bunch of racists get into power!
Most of the people on benefits are white british people and the immigrants are the workers.
The real boothen end boy you are clearly stupid if you say you support immigration and think that asians etc are fine to stay in Britain and then vote for a party that disagree with all of that.
6 million jews were killed in WW2, it was like having 9/11 everyday for 4 years solid, and it all started because a few Germand backed a man who shifted the blame of crisis on to an ethnice minority!
Rant over.
I'm disgusted fellow Stokies support the BNP who are racist full stop!!!!!!
I'm 16 and even I have the sense to see how fucking racist the BNP are
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Post by wizzardofdribble on May 28, 2008 19:14:51 GMT
Some of the most hardworking, decent, intelligent people I know vote BNP
They are not stupid or ignorant, just fed-up with being treated like second-class citizens in their own country
"Racism" is the most overused word in the English language and is used by the Fascistic-Anti-Racists to stifle freedom of speech, which my Grandfather and his generation fought a war over
Most Anti-racists I've met are like sheep-bleating out the word "racist"whenever they hear something they don't like or understand
Misguided fools
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Post by mermaidsal on May 28, 2008 19:21:19 GMT
When people who AREN'T natural fascists or frightened halfwitted knuckledraggers start voting BNP it's a dangerous symptom of a ruined political culture in SOT.
We're always going to have bigots, bullies and plain nasty fuckers in society so there's always going to be a minority supporting fascism but it only ever becomes more than that when local or national government totally loses its grip and loses contact with ordinary decent people, which is what's been happening here for too long.
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Post by Cupid Stunt on May 28, 2008 19:28:31 GMT
Some of the most hardworking, decent, intelligent people I know vote BNP They are not stupid or ignorant, just fed-up with being treated like second-class citizens in their own country "Racism" is the most overused word in the English language and is used by the Fascistic-Anti-Racists to stifle freedom of speech, which my Grandfather and his generation fought a war over Most Anti-racists I've met are like sheep-bleating out the word "racist"whenever they hear something they don't like or understand Misguided fools And voting the BNP will help our society will it? So all your intelligent friends who vote BNP will become first class citizens in their country? Yes because anyone who isn't white British will be kicked out. Yes that sounds like a good idea  |
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Post by TheDee51 on May 28, 2008 19:29:11 GMT
I'm 11.
I used to be able to walk around Hanley Park, very enjoyable.
Try and walk round there now without some scrote bothering you.
Tony Blair went to war without the right knowledge of what he was going to war over, therefore is he a murderer or is that perhaps one thing you don't agree with Blair on?
So if you voted Labour, you are all murderers.
Exactly the same principle.
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Post by scfc147 on May 28, 2008 19:41:26 GMT
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Post by mermaidsal on May 28, 2008 19:43:14 GMT
dom, bayern, tubes and all other anti-fascists, you're hereby invited to join the Oatcake Liberal Pissflappers Tendency  |
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Post by Rebelliousjukebox on May 28, 2008 20:00:39 GMT
dom, bayern, tubes and all other anti-fascists, you're hereby invited to join the Oatcake Liberal Pissflappers Tendency I second that  |
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Post by trend....... on May 28, 2008 20:23:38 GMT
why is saying 'paki' rascist?
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Post by Cupid Stunt on May 28, 2008 20:48:10 GMT
Because just because they're asian doesn't mean they're all from pakistan, it's like saying all white people are stupid and fat americans. If you went up to someone in hanley who was form India and called them a Paki it would be racist because you're signalling them out for having a different colour skin and because of that they must be a 'paki'.
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Post by trend....... on May 28, 2008 20:56:21 GMT
what if the bloke is actually from pakistan...
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Post by Cupid Stunt on May 28, 2008 21:05:19 GMT
Yes but who uses it just because they can't be arsed to say pakistani?
The only reason why people use paki is because they know the person won't like it and it is used out of context so much that a pakistani person would think you were just using the word because he was asian and so he would think you were using it offensively!
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Post by mermaidsal on May 28, 2008 21:24:26 GMT
Calling someone of Asian origin a paki is like calling me a cripple, same logic applies. Anyone fancy doing that then??
(The Nazis murdered many thousands of disabled people too, for the purity of the master race.)
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Post by wizzardofdribble on May 28, 2008 21:34:00 GMT
Mermaidsal, i've always regarded you as a "font of wisdom", an intelligent, decent, human-being, who bears no malice against anyone, irrespective of race, colour or creed and I've always used you as a "reference-point" in this crazy world we live in.
Like me, you are concerned that decent ordinary people are being driven to vote BNP, because of our rotten political-culture, NOT because every-one who votes BNP is "racist-scum" or "thick" or "a shell-suited-chav" etc
When ordinary people think they have no-one to turn to from mainstream political parties, they tend to look for "alternatives"
It took politicians 30 years to learn this lesson in Northern Ireland
With thousands of innocent lives lost and appalling suffering
Lets hope Politicians in Westminster wake-up to whats happening in Stoke-on-Trent before it's too late
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