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Post by roloman on May 28, 2008 10:30:09 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 28, 2008 10:34:54 GMT
BNP=scum simple as.
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Post by roloman on May 28, 2008 10:36:33 GMT
The white working class voters of Bentilee appear to disagree
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Post by leicspotter on May 28, 2008 10:44:44 GMT
Reading the article it seems pretty clear that politicians in Stoke have consistently let down the people they are supposed to represent, thus opening up the way for the BNP to gain power and influence.
The real tragedy is that they had this "wake up call" some time ago but continue to sit on their hands in the Council Chamber rather than getting out there and doing something POSITIVE for the residents.
The people of Stoke are entitled to vote whichever way they like, it is up to the politicians to give them a reason not to vote BNP and this will only happen by deeds, not words or "wailing".
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 28, 2008 10:52:23 GMT
The white working class voters of Bentilee appear to disagree Maybe if half off them got off their arses and did the jobs the immigrants do there would be no problem! But no they can't be arsed. It pisses me off when I hear chav scum boasting they got out of prison 6 weeks early and got paid 140 quid for doing so. These are the pricks that are dragging our country down. |
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Post by skiptanbroonacari on May 28, 2008 10:54:39 GMT
The trouble is that there is no serious challenge.
People from S-o-T don't vote Conservative, we are a very "set-in-our-ways" culture. So if Labour isn't working who do you turn to. In addition the BNP are very clever "lean at the bar, buy a few drinks", "help put the tables out", "listen".
But we are a very multi-ethnic city and we cannot turn our back on that, unfortunately (or fortunately dependent upon your point of view) we dont have an integrated society but a segregated one so the BNP can run a divide and conquer campaign to build strength.
The BNP polled 8,000 votes in a city of 250,000 people. I don't know what the turnout was but I know my vote didn't prevent them winning where I live.
AND they were the only party to try to visit house-to-house, I don't even think I got a leaflet from the Tories.
Time will tell but it's worrying for Labour and the city
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2008 10:58:33 GMT
'People from S-o-T don't vote Conservative, we are a very "set-in-our-ways" culture. '
Or you could call them a bit fucking thick?
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Post by scfclifer on May 28, 2008 10:59:01 GMT
labour are wank
conservatives are for posh fookers
lib dems are wank and never get votes in stoke
bnp are using all of the above plus the racism card and are winning......... one knocked on my door giving leaflets out ffs .................now i don't vote but i can understand why ppl are going for them as it states in the article their in the community the other 3 partys aren't sad but true i'm afraid
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Post by Admin on May 28, 2008 11:05:10 GMT
The saddest part is the ramming home of the point about how few people are actually working in this city. Some of the most ardent BNP voters I've met do not work and have no intention of doing so, yet never stop going on about people coming here and nicking jobs!!! You just want to bang your head against a wall in frustration.
The thing that is killing this country is dole-spongers and disability benefit con-artists, of all races and colours, who're screwing genuinely hard working people into the ground. That is the disgrace of this country and I'd vote for anyone who was genuinely sincere about doing something about it.
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 28, 2008 11:08:36 GMT
'People from S-o-T don't vote Conservative, we are a very "set-in-our-ways" culture. ' Or you could call them a bit fucking thick? I'm not sure they're thick squareball, they just have a memory which goes back to the period 1979 - 1997 and know what Conservatives nationally think of the people of this City with their willful destruction of its industry and communities. Admittedly continued with an unseemly relish by New Labour but concieved out of the festering womb of Thatcher. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 28, 2008 11:15:00 GMT
Maybe if half off them got off their arses and did the jobs the immigrants do there would be no problem! But no they can't be arsed. It pisses me off when I hear chav scum boasting they got out of prison 6 weeks early and got paid 140 quid for doing so. These are the pricks that are dragging our country down. Considering the vast majority of these people probably worked in Steel, Minning and Pots but have yet to be given a real alternative to work other than slaving away in a warehouse for very little is it any wonder they just want to take off the government. Coventry got masses of investment back into it's City when the the car industry went under what exactly did we get? True but for me you do what you can to earn your crust. It doesn't matter what it is. I go to Uni I'm doing what I can do to get myself a job, my Dad is a bricky he has a job for now. But when this site shuts down he will look for another one on whatever pay. I guess some people prefer doing fook all. Let them vote BNP and we'll see this country go to the mire. And it won't be down to the immigrants. On the racism note. People seem to hate the Pakistanis and Indians who fought for our country, then when we invited them over to help rebuild our country they despise them. Yes there are people in walks of life that are idiots but to generalise them as they do is ludicrous to me. |
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Post by skiptanbroonacari on May 28, 2008 11:16:09 GMT
That's exactly the reason why they are gaining power. You exercise your democratic right not to vote, you therefore denounce your democratic right to have an opinion. |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2008 11:18:19 GMT
I think you'll find they are.
Some of the 'thicker' voters I know think of Labour as being a 'soft' Headmaster who let's them do what they want and doesn't impose any discipline. Schools great when Labour are in power!
Voting Tory would see a new Headmaster who might introduce new levels of discipline and make them get off their fat arses and do some work. Don't want to vote for them do we?
You're right about pre-1979 though. Many Labour voters want to see a return to pisspoor nationlised industries so they can paid for sitting on their arses and earning a good wedge at the tax payers expense. For some reason many non-working Labour voters seem to have been brought up thinking that jobs only exists in the public sector.
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Post by TheDee51 on May 28, 2008 11:24:08 GMT
Why not give BNP a chance?
Could they do any worse than shitty Labour?
I doubt anybody could.
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 28, 2008 11:25:03 GMT
Yeah the miracle of Privitisation eh SB. Lets have look at the rail operators, still recieving huge subsidies from taxpayers yet charging exhorbitant prices and making huge profits for shareholders.
That's the sort of redistribution of wealth of which the Tories have always approved of.
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 28, 2008 11:26:15 GMT
Why not give BNP a chance? Because they're vile racist scum who deal in rhetoric but couldn't come up with a policy to get out of a paper bag? |
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Post by TheDee51 on May 28, 2008 11:35:18 GMT
Why not give BNP a chance? Because they're vile racist scum who deal in rhetoric but couldn't come up with a policy to get out of a paper bag? and Labour are oh so squeeky clean arent they, with solid policies that we all adhere to, understand and generally like. |
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 28, 2008 11:39:47 GMT
Of course the Labour party nationally and locally are hugely responsible that the message of the smartly dressed hate mongering facists is being swallowed but they are not the answer and never will be.
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Post by TheDee51 on May 28, 2008 11:45:31 GMT
and how can you be so sure? Please explain.
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 28, 2008 11:48:56 GMT
Did the words, 'hate mongering facists', not give it away?
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Post by turkeybuzzard on May 28, 2008 11:52:15 GMT
Why not give BNP a chance? Could they do any worse than shitty Labour? I doubt anybody could. In the article this is suggested as a noose for the BNP to hang themselves with. Unfortunately, this noose will hang both the BNP and the city of Stoke-on-Trent. Smudge.. You're correct. The one thing that needs urgent reform in this country is the welfare state. Too many people are claiming benefit in one form or another that should be at work. The sooner this mess is sorted out the better off the country will be. £100bn is spent each year on the welfare state in the UK (the same as the whole NHS budget). If my street is anything like the rest of the country then that figure could be cut in half if people who could work, did work. Families now-a-days are second and third generation benefit claimants. What chance have kids growing up in a family like that of getting good moral guidance and a work ethic. None and this will be the downfall of the country. |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2008 11:56:28 GMT
I know a government who wimped out of getting nationals back into work and backed mass immigration instead.
Wouldn't want to force their core voters into work would they?
Tossers.
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Post by TheDee51 on May 28, 2008 11:56:36 GMT
Did the words, 'hate mongering facists', not give it away? ...er NO. ..because the world today is full of Love isnt it. Like I said, could they do any worse than what Labour are doing? and the answer is nobody knows as they have never been in power. Lets give them the power and see what happens. Perhaps we might be left in 10 years time with a Britain we can all be proud of instead of being in a country where the most popular name would be Mohammed. |
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 28, 2008 12:02:44 GMT
Did the words, 'hate mongering facists', not give it away? Perhaps we might be left in 10 years time with a Britain we can all be proud of instead of being in a country where the most popular name would be Mohammed. fuckin hell, it's too late Alby and the boys have already been to see him  |
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Post by TheDee51 on May 28, 2008 12:12:59 GMT
Perhaps we might be left in 10 years time with a Britain we can all be proud of instead of being in a country where the most popular name would be Mohammed. fuckin hell, it's too late Alby and the boys have already been to see him Just quoting a FACT momo - sorry if you don't like it. |
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Post by Rebelliousjukebox on May 28, 2008 12:15:58 GMT
A minor factor in their sickening success is that the BNP didn't have any competition for the racist vote from UKIP in Stoke.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 28, 2008 12:38:56 GMT
Funny how the pro-BNP bunch never have much to say about their policies on education or the environment isn't it? Just their swivel-eyed racist ones.
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Post by Admin on May 28, 2008 13:25:41 GMT
If the BNP had any policies we might be able to hold a serious discussion about them. I'd be willing to discuss them in an open and sincere way.
What we actually have though is a situation where the one tacit policy is "get rid of the Pakistanis and Eastern Europeans" and everything will be just dandy. That's just the politics of hate and fear and it's not enough to run a country.
I'd actually tip my hat to the BNP if they'd come out and tell many of the dole-scroungers who vote for them to get off their arses and start contributing to this society, instead of leeching off it an blaming everybody else for the state of the country!
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Post by wizzardofdribble on May 28, 2008 13:52:30 GMT
The problem with people who vote BNP is that they are either "racist"(the most over-used word in the English language) or "a bit thick" i.e, they don't know what they're doing
Well that could be applied to the majority of the population
How many people sit down and read Manifestos?
The REAL problem is that the white community, who are not all work-shy scroungers, have had genuine grievances that have been ignored by mainstream politicians for years, and along come the BNP, who are not all "racist-thugs" and listen
The non-white population are ALWAYS treated as innocent victims
In fact many white people are victims too
The BNP didn't happen overnight...they are reacting to a situation
People are getting a bit sick of "positive discrimination"(which nearly always dicriminates against white people) and criminals coming over to this country from Eastern Europe to committ their crimes like sex-trafficking, credit-card fraud etc etc BECAUSE they know they will serve their prison sentence here and be entitled to 3 meals a day, an education, leisure facilities, their "human rights"..it's a recipe for disaster
People need to wake up before it's too late
Many white people have been intimidated
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Post by wizzardofdribble on May 28, 2008 14:13:55 GMT
People from outside the UK who committ a crime in this country, serve their prison-sentence here and THEN AFTER are deported, which costs the UK tax-payer an absolute fortune and dwarfs the amount of money spent on benefits for white people
We are talking billions, and immigrants put a huge strain on local services like schools, nurserys, hospitals, housing etc etc
It's a huge problem and one that politicians have ignored for too long
And when anyone mentions the above they are immediately branded "racist"
Thats what the BNP are tapping into, and I'm sorry Smudge, but you are playing straight into their hands
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