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Post by TheWiseMaster on May 11, 2018 23:06:38 GMT
'Lambert met Bojan for the first time earlier this week after the Spaniard flew in from his season-long loan at Spanish outfit Alaves.' Really? He never met him in January when he was appointed manager? A player who has a more than decent goal return for Stoke and is still the best finisher we have at the club? Lambert has since moaned about the lack of a decent striker at the club yet he met Bojan for the first time this week. Words really do fail me. Stoke's best ever finisher in the Premier League per minutes on the pitch ! And we were left with no-one who could actually kick a ball cleanly (at all !) - beggars belief
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Post by TheWiseMaster on May 11, 2018 23:10:06 GMT
Lambert should be sacked for that alone - and now he wants a player who he has never seen, who has not kicked a ball for how long... Has he mentioned Stan yet?
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Post by callas12 on May 11, 2018 23:11:08 GMT
Bojans long gone (in terms of ability).. Why are people still clinging onto him being some kind of saviour for us now?! We saw a couple of stunning performances & goals from him granted but in the main he's been average at best. If he was any good Barca, AC Milan, Roma or Ajax would have kept him on. He's made 11 appearances for Mainz & 10 for Alaves in the past 2x season's scoring 1 goal in the process.. Simply not good enough & even more so for the battering he'd get in the Championship.. Theres a talent in there no doubt about that but something somewhere within is lacking & that quality hasn't ever been sustained for a consistant period where ever he's played.
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Post by stokeson on May 11, 2018 23:19:07 GMT
All of Lambert cheerleaders on here are vale fans , insane or both .
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Post by FrankButcher on May 11, 2018 23:20:39 GMT
All of Lambert cheerleaders on here are vale fans , insane or both . Probably the ones that sang "Paul Lambert's red and white army" after we were relegated last weekend 😂
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Post by onionman on May 11, 2018 23:22:56 GMT
There's an incompetent bloke in my office who, every time he's about to get a bollocking, tells the boss he likes his jumper. It doesn't always save him from the bollocking but on some level I suspect it makes him slightly less likely to get sacked.
This is what Paul Lambert seems to be doing.
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Post by mrcoke on May 11, 2018 23:30:00 GMT
Lambert should be sacked for that alone - and now he wants a player who he has never seen, who has not kicked a ball for how long... Has he mentioned Stan yet? Many a true word spoken in jest. I would not object to the club giving Bojan another go. He could lift the spirits like the return of Stan did. A better analogy might be the return of Juninho to Middlesbrough. He was a player that Bojan reminds me of. Small in stature, but lots of talent and a permanent smile of the face. He is a character we could rally behind. Whether he is good enough to play in the Championship I don't know, but I think he is worth a try. He just could become a legend, like Juninho at Middlesbrough. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juninho_PaulistaIn October 1995, Juninho signed for English club Middlesbrough F.C. for £4.75 million,[3] just months after they had been promoted to the English top-flight FA Premier League. Then aged 22, Juninho had been tracked by numerous European top clubs, and it was a major surprise when he signed for "the Teessiders". Juninho became known as TLF (The Little Fella) by Boro fans, after local radio broadcaster Dave Roberts nicknamed the player on his football talk show. The nickname alludes to his height: only 1.65 m (5 ft 5 in). During his time with Middlesbrough, Juninho lived in Levendale and Ingleby Barwick with his parents. He was known for playing football with school children on the streets and is still considered one of the greatest players to have played for Middlesbrough in the modern era.
He made his debut on 4 November 1995 at home to Leeds United, setting up the opening goal for Jan Åge Fjørtoft in a 1–1 draw.[4] Juninho proved extremely effective as an attacking midfielder, and his skills helped the club reach the final of both the FA Cup and League Cup in 1997, although they lost both. At the end of the 1997 season, a three-point deduction condemned Middlesbrough to relegation to the secondary Division One; following a 1–1 draw at Leeds United on the final day of the season which confirmed the club's relegation, Juninho was reduced to tears. Despite the club's relegation, Juninho came runner up to Gianfranco Zola for the FWA Player of the Year award. Ultimately, Juninho left Middlesbrough to pursue his chances of making Brazil's 1998 World Cup squad.
Juninho was sold to Atlético Madrid for £13m, and started out well for the team. However, his time at Atlético was hampered massively by injuries, and he never quite achieved the heights that were expected of him. On 1 February 1998, during a league match against Celta de Vigo, a tackle by opponent defender Michel Salgado broke Juninho's fibula, sidelining the Brazilian for six months and thus making him miss the 1998 World Cup.
Juninho was loaned back to Middlesbrough (who by then had been promoted back to the Premier League) during the 1999–2000 season, and scored four goals in 24 games for the club, before returning to Atlético Madrid. Upon his return, Atlético had been relegated to the secondary Segunda División. Juninho was then loaned out to Brazilian team Vasco da Gama. Here he played alongside another Juninho, Juninho Pernambucano (the demonyms "Pernambucano" and "Paulista" had been used for some time to differentiate them) and won the 2000 domestic Campeonato Brasileiro Série A championship and the international Copa Mercosur trophy. He also had a brief loan spell with Flamengo.
Juninho began his third spell with Middlesbrough in the summer of 2002, when he permanently left Atlético Madrid for £6m. He spent two years back at Middlesbrough's Riverside Stadium, and helped the club win the 2003–04 Football League Cup, the team's first and so far only major honour. In December 2007 he was voted by Boro fans in a PFA fan's poll as Middlesbrough's greatest ever player. Juninho is still seen as a hero on Teesside by many Middlesbrough fans – soon after he joined Middlesbrough in 1995 Boro fans would put out both their arms and bow forwards in worship during matches, this continued even through to his third spell at the club. Juninho said he would love a fourth spell at the Boro to end his career, however no such opportunity materialised.[9] Ultimately, although he did have a higher goals-to-games ratio during this period than in either of his previous two spells at the club, Juninho never fully recaptured his mesmerising form of the 1996–97 season and never fully recovered from the broken leg he suffered during his time at Atlético Madrid. Nonetheless he remained a legend on Teesside and maintains an iconic status to this day.
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Post by uskstokie on May 12, 2018 0:16:22 GMT
Bojans long gone (in terms of ability).. Why are people still clinging onto him being some kind of saviour for us now?! We saw a couple of stunning performances & goals from him granted but in the main he's been average at best. If he was any good Barca, AC Milan, Roma or Ajax would have kept him on. He's made 11 appearances for Mainz & 10 for Alaves in the past 2x season's scoring 1 goal in the process.. Simply not good enough & even more so for the battering he'd get in the Championship.. Theres a talent in there no doubt about that but something somewhere within is lacking & that quality hasn't ever been sustained for a consistant period where ever he's played. I have to agree with you to be honest... I love Bojan to bits! He loves the fans and we love him back. But I think he is not the same player we had in 2015.
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Post by musik on May 12, 2018 0:18:30 GMT
Hardly. Correction: He might! 👍
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Post by spitthedog on May 12, 2018 0:22:18 GMT
Fantasy Football
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Post by Bojan Mackey on May 12, 2018 0:29:58 GMT
He belongs here.
He’ll get us promoted, watch, Christ I can’t wait to watch the little magician in action again, my scrotum is aching with anticipation.
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Post by musik on May 12, 2018 0:31:17 GMT
If I understand Lambert correctly, he rather wants good guys with a tremendous work ethics in favour of the ones extremely talented but who thinks "they arrived"?
What does "they arrived" mean? Does it mean they think they're in the starting XI just by showing up? I'd rather have players extremely talented AND with great work ethics.
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Post by Gary Hackett on May 12, 2018 1:00:12 GMT
What a crock of shit - if this is true all Lambert is doing is trying to endear himself to the supporters to keep his job Yep that's clearly what he's doing and it's also pretty clear that Huth hasn't been visiting CW and isn't on the verge of signing for us, as Lambert himself admits that he doesn't even know him. I'll bet he didn't know Bauer or Badou either...
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Post by Gary Hackett on May 12, 2018 1:02:44 GMT
His 'ickle legs may snap at the very thought of championship football. Bless him.
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Post by PotterLog on May 12, 2018 1:05:34 GMT
Bojans long gone (in terms of ability).. Why are people still clinging onto him being some kind of saviour for us now?! We saw a couple of stunning performances & goals from him granted but in the main he's been average at best. If he was any good Barca, AC Milan, Roma or Ajax would have kept him on. He's made 11 appearances for Mainz & 10 for Alaves in the past 2x season's scoring 1 goal in the process.. Simply not good enough & even more so for the battering he'd get in the Championship.. Theres a talent in there no doubt about that but something somewhere within is lacking & that quality hasn't ever been sustained for a consistant period where ever he's played. He played over 100 games for Barcelona who at the time were one of the best club sides the world has ever seen.
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Post by callas12 on May 12, 2018 1:22:20 GMT
Bojans long gone (in terms of ability).. Why are people still clinging onto him being some kind of saviour for us now?! We saw a couple of stunning performances & goals from him granted but in the main he's been average at best. If he was any good Barca, AC Milan, Roma or Ajax would have kept him on. He's made 11 appearances for Mainz & 10 for Alaves in the past 2x season's scoring 1 goal in the process.. Simply not good enough & even more so for the battering he'd get in the Championship.. Theres a talent in there no doubt about that but something somewhere within is lacking & that quality hasn't ever been sustained for a consistant period where ever he's played. He played over 100 games for Barcelona who at the time were one of the best club sides the world has ever seen. Could counter that by saying he's only made the 1x full appearance for the Spain national team & that was as a sub for the last 10 mins of a game! If he was that good he'd have made alot more International appearances & won honours along the way. Whilst not trying to put our great club down, lets face facts here, Barca don't freely let their best players go, and if he really was as good as folk make him out to be he wouldn't of ended up at Stoke after a succession of failed loan spells at clubs who never followed up their interest in him. Including Roma who had a right to buy him declined by Roma & he headed back to Barca. There's a reason for that..
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Post by PotterLog on May 12, 2018 1:40:35 GMT
He played over 100 games for Barcelona who at the time were one of the best club sides the world has ever seen. Could counter that by saying he's only made the 1x full appearance for the Spain national team. If he was that good he'd have made alot more International appearances & won honours along the way. Whilst not trying to put our great club down, lets face facts here, Barca don't freely let their best players go, and if he really was as good as folk make him out to be he wouldn't of ended up at Stoke after a succession of failed loan spells at clubs who never followed up their interest in him. There's a reason for that.. Hang on a minute, you said if he was "any good" Barca would have kept him and that he was "simply not good enough". Now you're shifting to "he wasn't one of Barca's *best* players" As a footballer, he is that good. He's just had various issues throughout his career, the most devastating one in recent years being that godforsaken knee twist at fucking Rochdale. I'll genuinely look back on that as one of the worst moments of our recent history.
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Post by prettything on May 12, 2018 1:59:01 GMT
Can’t believe some of the comments here!
Every single championship club would take Bojan next season. Every single one!
There is an argument he could have added something back in January.
Would love to see the little lad back. It could resurrect his old self, being in a lower league.
Bunch of nutters, I tell thee!
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Post by FrankButcher on May 12, 2018 2:00:09 GMT
Desperately trying to get fans on side with a cheap PR stunt. Wouldn't need to resort to such measures if you were good at your job in the first place.
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Post by callas12 on May 12, 2018 2:05:24 GMT
Could counter that by saying he's only made the 1x full appearance for the Spain national team. If he was that good he'd have made alot more International appearances & won honours along the way. Whilst not trying to put our great club down, lets face facts here, Barca don't freely let their best players go, and if he really was as good as folk make him out to be he wouldn't of ended up at Stoke after a succession of failed loan spells at clubs who never followed up their interest in him. There's a reason for that.. Hang on a minute, you said if he was "any good" Barca would have kept him and that he was "simply not good enough". Now you're shifting to "he wasn't one of Barca's *best* players" As a footballer, he is that good. He's just had various issues throughout his career, the most devastating one in recent years being that godforsaken knee twist at fucking Rochdale. I'll genuinely look back on that as one of the worst moments of our recent history. My initial point was 'If he was any good Barca would have kept him on'.. Despite his early promise Barca were happy to let him go out on loan and even sell him before buying him back and then loaning him out again before selling him to us.. He may have had issues along the way that have prevented him developing his career at Barca in the way Messi has but as a club Barcelona deemed Bojan surplus to requirements as he wasn't good enough to progress his career any further with them. I do think he was close to rediscovering his early Barca form prior to that Rochdale incident & we'll never know how far he could have progressed had that injury not occured. If the Bojan who absolutely tore Arsenal apart in that home victory at the Bet 365 where the ref wrongly in my opinion disallowed his 2nd half goal could of delivered that type of performance on a more regular basis we'd have had a class act and the Bojan of old. Sadly as my initial post touched on, think these glimpses of form are long behind him now. Would love to be proved wrong and see him make a return from Spain but just can't see it happening. He's had too many failed comebacks with us, FA Cup v Wolves most noticeable last season aswell as a return to pre season for the 17/18 season with a clean slate, he clearly didnt impress as was loaned out early doors again.
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Post by PotterLog on May 12, 2018 3:14:36 GMT
Hang on a minute, you said if he was "any good" Barca would have kept him and that he was "simply not good enough". Now you're shifting to "he wasn't one of Barca's *best* players" As a footballer, he is that good. He's just had various issues throughout his career, the most devastating one in recent years being that godforsaken knee twist at fucking Rochdale. I'll genuinely look back on that as one of the worst moments of our recent history. My initial point was 'If he was any good Barca would have kept him on'.. Despite his early promise Barca were happy to let him go out on loan and even sell him before buying him back and then loaning him out again before selling him to us.. He may have had issues along the way that have prevented him developing his career at Barca in the way Messi has but as a club Barcelona deemed Bojan surplus to requirements as he wasn't good enough to progress his career any further with them. I do think he was close to rediscovering his early Barca form prior to that Rochdale incident & we'll never know how far he could have progressed had that injury not occured. If the Bojan who absolutely tore Arsenal apart in that home victory at the Bet 365 where the ref wrongly in my opinion disallowed his 2nd half goal could of delivered that type of performance on a more regular basis we'd have had a class act and the Bojan of old. Sadly as my initial post touched on, think these glimpses of form are long behind him now. Would love to be proved wrong and see him make a return from Spain but just can't see it happening. He's had too many failed comebacks with us, FA Cup v Wolves most noticeable last season aswell as a return to pre season for the 17/18 season with a clean slate, he clearly didnt impress as was loaned out early doors again. Oh I agree, I don’t think there’s even the remotest chance of him playing any meaningful role for us ever again. He’s gone. Which is tragic because I think he was a world class footballer.
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Post by heworksardtho on May 12, 2018 4:41:14 GMT
Bojan is coming home!!! Get the liberty stadium rocking with this chant to show that we want him to stay as lambert has said he likes him but that could be to get the fans on side, but showing bojan that’s e want him to stay and help us get out of a very difficult league He’s finished
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Post by heworksardtho on May 12, 2018 5:01:12 GMT
Lambert should be sacked for that alone - and now he wants a player who he has never seen, who has not kicked a ball for how long... Has he mentioned Stan yet? Many a true word spoken in jest. I would not object to the club giving Bojan another go. He could lift the spirits like the return of Stan did. A better analogy might be the return of Juninho to Middlesbrough. He was a player that Bojan reminds me of. Small in stature, but lots of talent and a permanent smile of the face. He is a character we could rally behind. Whether he is good enough to play in the Championship I don't know, but I think he is worth a try. He just could become a legend, like Juninho at Middlesbrough. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juninho_PaulistaIn October 1995, Juninho signed for English club Middlesbrough F.C. for £4.75 million,[3] just months after they had been promoted to the English top-flight FA Premier League. Then aged 22, Juninho had been tracked by numerous European top clubs, and it was a major surprise when he signed for "the Teessiders". Juninho became known as TLF (The Little Fella) by Boro fans, after local radio broadcaster Dave Roberts nicknamed the player on his football talk show. The nickname alludes to his height: only 1.65 m (5 ft 5 in). During his time with Middlesbrough, Juninho lived in Levendale and Ingleby Barwick with his parents. He was known for playing football with school children on the streets and is still considered one of the greatest players to have played for Middlesbrough in the modern era.
He made his debut on 4 November 1995 at home to Leeds United, setting up the opening goal for Jan Åge Fjørtoft in a 1–1 draw.[4] Juninho proved extremely effective as an attacking midfielder, and his skills helped the club reach the final of both the FA Cup and League Cup in 1997, although they lost both. At the end of the 1997 season, a three-point deduction condemned Middlesbrough to relegation to the secondary Division One; following a 1–1 draw at Leeds United on the final day of the season which confirmed the club's relegation, Juninho was reduced to tears. Despite the club's relegation, Juninho came runner up to Gianfranco Zola for the FWA Player of the Year award. Ultimately, Juninho left Middlesbrough to pursue his chances of making Brazil's 1998 World Cup squad.
Juninho was sold to Atlético Madrid for £13m, and started out well for the team. However, his time at Atlético was hampered massively by injuries, and he never quite achieved the heights that were expected of him. On 1 February 1998, during a league match against Celta de Vigo, a tackle by opponent defender Michel Salgado broke Juninho's fibula, sidelining the Brazilian for six months and thus making him miss the 1998 World Cup.
Juninho was loaned back to Middlesbrough (who by then had been promoted back to the Premier League) during the 1999–2000 season, and scored four goals in 24 games for the club, before returning to Atlético Madrid. Upon his return, Atlético had been relegated to the secondary Segunda División. Juninho was then loaned out to Brazilian team Vasco da Gama. Here he played alongside another Juninho, Juninho Pernambucano (the demonyms "Pernambucano" and "Paulista" had been used for some time to differentiate them) and won the 2000 domestic Campeonato Brasileiro Série A championship and the international Copa Mercosur trophy. He also had a brief loan spell with Flamengo.
Juninho began his third spell with Middlesbrough in the summer of 2002, when he permanently left Atlético Madrid for £6m. He spent two years back at Middlesbrough's Riverside Stadium, and helped the club win the 2003–04 Football League Cup, the team's first and so far only major honour. In December 2007 he was voted by Boro fans in a PFA fan's poll as Middlesbrough's greatest ever player. Juninho is still seen as a hero on Teesside by many Middlesbrough fans – soon after he joined Middlesbrough in 1995 Boro fans would put out both their arms and bow forwards in worship during matches, this continued even through to his third spell at the club. Juninho said he would love a fourth spell at the Boro to end his career, however no such opportunity materialised.[9] Ultimately, although he did have a higher goals-to-games ratio during this period than in either of his previous two spells at the club, Juninho never fully recaptured his mesmerising form of the 1996–97 season and never fully recovered from the broken leg he suffered during his time at Atlético Madrid. Nonetheless he remained a legend on Teesside and maintains an iconic status to this day.
Is he still fit , bring him home
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Post by hoofmagic on May 12, 2018 5:29:08 GMT
Can't understand a word he mumbles ffs.................
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Post by Mint Berry Barks on May 12, 2018 5:47:05 GMT
He's our X-factor next season.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2018 5:54:07 GMT
There's an incompetent bloke in my office who, every time he's about to get a bollocking, tells the boss he likes his jumper. It doesn't always save him from the bollocking but on some level I suspect it makes him slightly less likely to get sacked. This is what Paul Lambert seems to be doing. I can see lamberts boss falling for it
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Post by nott1 on May 12, 2018 5:56:14 GMT
Bring 'em back and smash the Championship!
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Post by nott1 on May 12, 2018 5:57:28 GMT
Bojan is coming home!!! Get the liberty stadium rocking with this chant to show that we want him to stay as lambert has said he likes him but that could be to get the fans on side, but showing bojan that’s e want him to stay and help us get out of a very difficult league Here here
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Post by bathstoke on May 12, 2018 6:14:14 GMT
Can someone remind me why he was so much worse than the other lot, that we had to ship him out. No, I really don’t know why...
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Post by PottersBrim on May 12, 2018 6:36:46 GMT
See how that goes if we aren't top 6 then maybe get rid. So basically, instead of changing now and giving ourselves the best chance to get a new man in, uniting supporters and being positive we should keep Lambert, hope for top 6 despite all evidence to the contrary, wait for it to go wrong before sacking him when it’s too late to salvage anything out of the season?
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