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Post by musik on May 16, 2018 14:37:44 GMT
Seriously. What are we going to get for him? 5m? Still paying 20-40k of his wages. Just seems a big hit to me especially when there is a decent player in there. Who did he eat? 😀🤣🤣😀
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Post by musik on May 16, 2018 14:43:50 GMT
Wimmer can't jump. If you look at the goals we conceded from set pieces or crosses when he was playing you can usually find him feet planted firmly on the ground while the opposition player heads the ball in. Even going back to a "highlights" video compiled before he joined Spurs, the only defensive headers shown had him feet firmly planted on terra firma. It would appear that he can't jump and has never been able to jump. (Well done to our scouting team for failing to spot that "minor" flaw!) The Championship, I am sure that those teams would love to play against a team with a non-jumping centre half. Stoke City Football Club is becoming more and more tragicomic for each day
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Post by lawrieleslie on May 16, 2018 14:52:00 GMT
Like Leeds did with Doobs back in the day. I can't see how European clubs would afford him else unless there is a wage drop? Wow another reason why PL football is a complete nut job. You sell a player because he’s useless and to get him off your astronomical wages bill. But let’s pay half his wages at his new club. Fucking crazy. Presumably it will be the same if we can miraculously off load Imbula to a foreign club which is most likely. Not even going to mention the waste of skin that is Berahino.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 16, 2018 15:14:37 GMT
Like Leeds did with Doobs back in the day. I can't see how European clubs would afford him else unless there is a wage drop? Wow another reason why PL football is a complete nut job. You sell a player because he’s useless and to get him off your astronomical wages bill. But let’s pay half his wages at his new club. Fucking crazy. Presumably it will be the same if we can miraculously off load Imbula to a foreign club which is most likely. Not even going to mention the waste of skin that is Berahino. That's just me guessing but it's not too far out of the realms of possibility. Berahino will surely stay and we've got to use him?
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Post by FullerMagic on May 22, 2018 9:50:57 GMT
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Post by ursemboys on May 22, 2018 9:53:55 GMT
if i am reading this correct it ;looks like the fee we paid was lies mmmmmm tax fiddle by spurs maybe
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Post by bigcashprizes on May 22, 2018 9:54:12 GMT
The only time I ever want to hear the word Wimmer again, is if Jonathan Ross turns up and says he’s a fan of Tony Pulis
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Post by Paul Spencer on May 22, 2018 10:01:43 GMT
I have absolutely no idea what that story is about ...
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Post by Clem Fandango on May 22, 2018 10:05:06 GMT
Bizarre article that
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Post by BuzzB on May 22, 2018 10:05:43 GMT
if i am reading this correct it ;looks like the fee we paid was lies mmmmmm tax fiddle by spurs maybe I jokingly said on another thread that this was a money laundering jobbie ha!!
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Post by chigstoke on May 22, 2018 10:07:50 GMT
God knows why we thought such an astronomical figure like we paid for Wimmer was a good idea.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 22, 2018 10:10:14 GMT
if i am reading this correct it ;looks like the fee we paid was lies mmmmmm tax fiddle by spurs maybe How did you get that from the article? Don't they mean it's fantasy because it's a ridiculous fee?
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Post by thebet365 on May 22, 2018 10:21:03 GMT
if i am reading this correct it ;looks like the fee we paid was lies mmmmmm tax fiddle by spurs maybe How did you get that from the article? Don't they mean it's fantasy because it's a ridiculous fee? Yep that's exactly what they mean. Basically they can't buy him because what we paid for him was ridiculous.
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Post by Paul Spencer on May 22, 2018 10:26:05 GMT
How did you get that from the article? Don't they mean it's fantasy because it's a ridiculous fee? Yep that's exactly what they mean. Basically they can't buy him because what we paid for him was ridiculous. But they've known what the fee was for ages. What have us and Hannover been negotiating all this time for then, we can't have even been in the same ball park?
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Post by robwahlmann on May 22, 2018 10:28:15 GMT
£5M and off the pay-roll is the best we can hope for, get rid of the useless .......!
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Post by thebet365 on May 22, 2018 10:31:05 GMT
Yep that's exactly what they mean. Basically they can't buy him because what we paid for him was ridiculous. But they've known what the fee was for ages. What have us and Hannover been negotiating all this time for then, we can't have even been in the same ball park? It's probably down to our managerial position. Lambert made it clear he doesn't like him. So we were trying to offload him but now maybe they want to see if the new manager wants to take a look at him 1st before letting him go. So now they're playing hardball with the fee/wages until Rowett says fuck him off too.
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Post by Paul Spencer on May 22, 2018 10:35:33 GMT
But they've known what the fee was for ages. What have us and Hannover been negotiating all this time for then, we can't have even been in the same ball park? It's probably down to our managerial position. Lambert made it clear he doesn't like him. So we were trying to offload him but now maybe they want to see if the new manager wants to take a look at him 1st before letting him go. So now they're playing hardball with the fee/wages until Rowett says fuck him off too. Yeah that would make sense, bit of a dangerous game to play though.
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 22, 2018 10:52:50 GMT
Bloody Mark Hughes, dishing out these fantasy fees and astronomical half a decade long contracts with no checks and balances.
I think we need to consider putting together some sort of recruitment department with a technical director at the helm and maybe put the Chief Executive inside the process as well.
This sort of thing wouldn't happen then.
No sirreee.
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Post by chigstoke on May 22, 2018 10:55:06 GMT
Bloody Mark Hughes, dishing out these fantasy fees and astronomical half a decade long contracts with no checks and balances. I think we need to consider putting together some sort of recruitment department with a technical director at the helm and maybe put the Chief Executive inside the process as well. This sort of thing wouldn't happen then. No sirreee. I like your thinking, Sheik. Come to think of it, I know this bloke. Name's Mark Cartwright, used to be a goalkeeper for Leek Town you know, Beswicks finest. Maybe he could be our Technical Director? He'd work well with Tony Scholes.
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 22, 2018 10:58:31 GMT
Bloody Mark Hughes, dishing out these fantasy fees and astronomical half a decade long contracts with no checks and balances. I think we need to consider putting together some sort of recruitment department with a technical director at the helm and maybe put the Chief Executive inside the process as well. This sort of thing wouldn't happen then. No sirreee. I like your thinking, Sheik. Come to think of it, I know this bloke. Name's Mark Cartwright, used to be a goalkeeper for Leek Town you know, Beswicks finest. Maybe he could be our Technical Director? He'd work well with Tony Scholes. I'm up for anything that could stop a manager doing deals like this singlehandedly and risking the very future of the club, mate. Leek Town you say? Sounds like he could open some doors.
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Post by Clayton Wood on May 22, 2018 11:12:12 GMT
But they've known what the fee was for ages. What have us and Hannover been negotiating all this time for then, we can't have even been in the same ball park? It's probably down to our managerial position. Lambert made it clear he doesn't like him. So we were trying to offload him but now maybe they want to see if the new manager wants to take a look at him 1st before letting him go. So now they're playing hardball with the fee/wages until Rowett says fuck him off too. It's probably as much to do with Wimmer still being on the books at £14.4m. Once they start talking transfers then there is the risk he'll have to be written down to his sell on value. This will have to happen at some point if he is sold below book value. With the SCFC year end on 31st May, and already the severance costs of Hughes and the gang already booked and potentially the compo to Derby, they'll want to wait until the new financial year. Then his write off can be offset against gains from Butland etc. Well, that's what I'd do anyway.
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Post by somersetpotter on May 22, 2018 11:16:38 GMT
if i am reading this correct it ;looks like the fee we paid was lies mmmmmm tax fiddle by spurs maybe aren't they just saying that Spurs caught our transfer team hook line and sinker with a fee that should have only ever happened in the fantasy world (where you can close without saving and forget it ever f**cking happened). I think we really did pay that amount for the donkey and nobody in the footballing world can understand why.
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Post by lordb on May 22, 2018 11:18:37 GMT
Bloody Mark Hughes, dishing out these fantasy fees and astronomical half a decade long contracts with no checks and balances. I think we need to consider putting together some sort of recruitment department with a technical director at the helm and maybe put the Chief Executive inside the process as well. This sort of thing wouldn't happen then. No sirreee. I think you can blame Hughes for wanting the player for sure but the fee was entirely down to Scholes. Pulis wanted Wimmer as well so Scholes ego took over & he ensured Pulis didn't get him.
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Post by ursemboys on May 22, 2018 11:21:37 GMT
if i am reading this correct it ;looks like the fee we paid was lies mmmmmm tax fiddle by spurs maybe aren't they just saying that Spurs caught our transfer team hook line and sinker with a fee that should have only ever happened in the fantasy world (where you can close without saving and forget it ever f**cking happened). I think we really did pay that amount for the donkey and nobody in the footballing world can understand why. i was hoping it was just a fiddle and we didn't really waste all that money
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Post by Lakeland Potter on May 22, 2018 11:26:18 GMT
It's probably down to our managerial position. Lambert made it clear he doesn't like him. So we were trying to offload him but now maybe they want to see if the new manager wants to take a look at him 1st before letting him go. So now they're playing hardball with the fee/wages until Rowett says fuck him off too. It's probably as much to do with Wimmer still being on the books at £14.4m. Once they start talking transfers then there is the risk he'll have to be written down to his sell on value. This will have to happen at some point if he is sold below book value. With the SCFC year end on 31st May, and already the severance costs of Hughes and the gang already booked and potentially the compo to Derby, they'll want to wait until the new financial year. Then his write off can be offset against gains from Butland etc. Well, that's what I'd do anyway. That would certainly make sense - although it should have been possible to arrange for that to happen without the media thinking there had been some hitch. If this is the reason then the PR department has failed (again) as there was absolutely no need to flag up any problems - an announcement by the club on the lines of "it is expected that a deal will be completed in early June" would have been quite sufficient to stop speculation.
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Post by stokeramblers on May 22, 2018 11:27:04 GMT
God just look at the state of him... doughy faced bastard. Those Spurs players must been pissing themselves when they realised that their fat mate was playing them that day. What a disgrace of a ‘professional’
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Post by Lakeland Potter on May 22, 2018 11:28:53 GMT
aren't they just saying that Spurs caught our transfer team hook line and sinker with a fee that should have only ever happened in the fantasy world (where you can close without saving and forget it ever f**cking happened). I think we really did pay that amount for the donkey and nobody in the footballing world can understand why. i was hoping it was just a fiddle and we didn't really waste all that money It won't have been a fiddle - no way are Spurs going to want it being publicised that they got £18 million if they didn't - why give any taxman a reason to question their accounts?
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Post by chayzenbacon on May 22, 2018 11:29:07 GMT
It's probably down to our managerial position. Lambert made it clear he doesn't like him. So we were trying to offload him but now maybe they want to see if the new manager wants to take a look at him 1st before letting him go. So now they're playing hardball with the fee/wages until Rowett says fuck him off too. It's probably as much to do with Wimmer still being on the books at £14.4m. Once they start talking transfers then there is the risk he'll have to be written down to his sell on value. This will have to happen at some point if he is sold below book value. With the SCFC year end on 31st May, and already the severance costs of Hughes and the gang already booked and potentially the compo to Derby, they'll want to wait until the new financial year. Then his write off can be offset against gains from Butland etc. Well, that's what I'd do anyway. Yes, if Stoke City FC were owned by the Coates family it wouldn't matter about the write-down but as the club is owned by Bet365 it would impact the company's books and potentially at least, if say they wanted to sell or list Bet365, have an impact on the perceived value of Bet365 and hence the family's wealth. Still small beer when compared to the value of Bet365 though.
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Post by Clayton Wood on May 22, 2018 11:39:29 GMT
It's probably as much to do with Wimmer still being on the books at £14.4m. Once they start talking transfers then there is the risk he'll have to be written down to his sell on value. This will have to happen at some point if he is sold below book value. With the SCFC year end on 31st May, and already the severance costs of Hughes and the gang already booked and potentially the compo to Derby, they'll want to wait until the new financial year. Then his write off can be offset against gains from Butland etc. Well, that's what I'd do anyway. Yes, if Stoke City FC were owned by the Coates family it wouldn't matter about the write-down but as the club is owned by Bet365 it would impact the company's books and potentially at least, if say they wanted to sell or list Bet365, have an impact on the perceived value of Bet365 and hence the family's wealth. Still small beer when compared to the value of Bet365 though. Yes a drop in the ocean to bet365 Group but would make a big hole in SCFC ltd. Why attract FFP scrutiny to a loss you don't have to declare (yet)?
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Post by ossicular on May 22, 2018 11:40:23 GMT
Maybe Spurs told Hughes it'll cost you 1 million per stone to buy him. Hughesy thought 12 million, that's reasonable. It wasn't until they got him on the scales at the medical and found out he was such a large investment.
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