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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2018 17:58:53 GMT
You'll need to change your name soon 😉 maybe wewerepremierleague would suffice. ha just replied to that and you beat me to it by hours! 👍
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Post by smallthorner on Mar 23, 2018 18:06:33 GMT
Lambert was employed ready for the championship, hence the 2.5 year contract. If it was just till the end of the season, it would of been the same contract Hughes has got at Southampton. There has been a lot of mind numbing, shite decisions made by our Board and Management over the last two years.. The one to give Pauly McLambert a two and half year contract certainly ranks up there alongside the worst. What on earth were they thinking? If he had kept us up .... then potential big rise and then a long term contact (if they wished) Going down .... by definition he hasn't pulled up any trees, but they could have had an option to consider. Baffling.... truly baffling.
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Post by staffsvilla on Mar 23, 2018 18:19:13 GMT
Remind me who KEH is, I'm being a bit slow today. Karim El Ahmadi ![(thumbsup)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/xCapiH2OKRFSDk2AOBv_.gif)
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Post by march4 on Mar 23, 2018 18:33:26 GMT
I’m now beginning to wonder if Lambert will even last until the end of this season.
His reign has parallels with Kamara’s. Momentum has now been lost. Relegation is inevitable. I can see Lambert leaving before we play Palace.
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Post by smallthorner on Mar 23, 2018 18:42:19 GMT
I’m now beginning to wonder if Lambert will even last until the end of this season. His reign has parallels with Kamara’s. Momentum has now been lost. Relegation is inevitable. I can see Lambert leaving before we play Palace. I do wonder if there is some caveat in his contract that gives the Club an option for a "cheap sacking" if we get relegated.
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Post by ursemboys on Mar 23, 2018 19:01:17 GMT
Well Potter knows how to make a silk purse out of a sows ear thats for sure. Would be worth a gamble and he had already said he would love to come to Stoke - but will never happen in a million years as the board have no ambition apert from the ambition to spend little or no money of their own (and to make sure they get as much out as possible when the clubs best assets are sold - and when the club itself is eventually sold.) People who think the Coates run Stoke City in some altruistic way are saddly mistaken. A leopard doesnt change his spots - that why we have been underfunded in the last couple of years (or 3-4 years?) and we are now seeing the consequences! it didnt take a rocket scientist to see what would happen to a prem club that didnt continue to invest - unfortunately the Coates' have reverted to type. Chineese anyone! yes please , Singapore chow mein if your paying ,Chinese owners would destroy stoke within 2 years ,Is this not the same board who backed pulis to promotion when money was not so free flowing years ago also gave him millions to spend on players ,short memory guys ,yes they have faults but come on do you want be the new Birmingham / hull
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Post by gingerninja on Mar 23, 2018 19:03:35 GMT
Would not surprise me as the last poster alluded to that there was some get out clause come the end of the season. If we fail to accumulate many more points then his 15 game cup finals mission would have been s failure and therefore little point to keep him.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2018 19:36:44 GMT
I’m now beginning to wonder if Lambert will even last until the end of this season. His reign has parallels with Kamara’s. Momentum has now been lost. Relegation is inevitable. I can see Lambert leaving before we play Palace. I do wonder if there is some caveat in his contract that gives the Club an option for a "cheap sacking" if we get relegated. I've already promised £5 towards his severance fee.
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Post by march4 on Mar 23, 2018 19:55:50 GMT
I do wonder if there is some caveat in his contract that gives the Club an option for a "cheap sacking" if we get relegated. I've already promised £5 towards his severance fee. Steady on mate. He will need to do a bit more to earn that much.
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Post by claytonscrubs on Mar 24, 2018 0:14:49 GMT
It’ll be Lambert, and we’ll finish 15th.........5 times in a row for the mesmerising jock.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2018 6:32:11 GMT
I’m now beginning to wonder if Lambert will even last until the end of this season. His reign has parallels with Kamara’s. Momentum has now been lost. Relegation is inevitable. I can see Lambert leaving before we play Palace. Yes he has to be under pressure already. If you'd told me he was only going to get seven points from that run of games I would not have believed you. He has completely fucked it up. I don't believe for one second he will be manager next season
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Post by johnnypotter on Mar 24, 2018 21:33:16 GMT
At first, I had a good feeling about Lambert, but I have to agree that his appointment was made with the Championship in mind. I believe that Coates has most certainly gone back to his old ways and I have this feeling of ''Here we go again''. I have been studying the Championship teams and cannot see us in the top ten ambition wise. Complacency has become endemic at our club again. We have had our fingers burnt with particular signings and it feels to me that the spending required to once again become a lower championship club will serve to dampen the flames in the eyes of the board. As always with these things, I pray that I'm proved wrong, but supporting Stoke City it's usually the opposite that happens. As an earlier poster so rightly commented ''It's the hope that kills you'' he is absolutely right.
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Post by Sfance on Mar 24, 2018 21:55:56 GMT
Coates Mk.2 has clearly reverted to Coates Mk.1. And the prosecution’s main piece of evidence is his head-scratching question, “What’s all the fuss about?” That’s going to make a great book title. So who is going to write it?
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Post by march4 on Mar 24, 2018 22:07:10 GMT
Coates Mk.2 has clearly reverted to Coates Mk.1. And the prosecution’s main piece of evidence is his head-scratching question, “What’s all the fuss about?” That’s going to make a great book title. So who is going to write it? I still have faith Peter Coates will belatedly put this right. In May he is going to have to relieve Scholes, Cartwright and Lambert of their positions. I hope and pray he is already lining up their replacements.
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Post by Sfance on Mar 24, 2018 22:09:11 GMT
Hope you’ve got a direct line!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2018 22:46:49 GMT
Lambert was employed ready for the championship, hence the 2.5 year contract. If it was just till the end of the season, it would of been the same contract Hughes has got at Southampton. There has been a lot of mind numbing, shite decisions made by our Board and Management over the last two years.. The one to give Pauly McLambert a two and half year contract certainly ranks up there alongside the worst. What on earth were they thinking? If he had kept us up .... then potential big rise and then a long term contact (if they wished) Going down .... by definition he hasn't pulled up any trees, but they could have had an option to consider. Baffling.... truly baffling. Perhaps the Coates family have become bored with a premier league football club that is going nowhere. Maybe that is why they stuck with Hughes for so long and when the situation became untenable, they replaced him with Lambert. And just maybe they will not be bothered if we finish consistently in 9th place in the Championship. Or will they take the money and run? Interesting times ahead. Maybe Stoke City have served bet365's purpose and it is now time to cast it aside. Maybe an Icelandic consortium will come along and save the day. Who knows?
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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 25, 2018 8:28:37 GMT
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Post by GeneralFaye on Mar 25, 2018 8:31:04 GMT
If he brought Nick Powell along with him that wouldn't be too bad, think he'd be a decent player in the Championship now he's got his career back on track.
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Post by heworksardtho on Mar 25, 2018 8:42:39 GMT
Unfortunately I dont think we will make it out of this fix we are in now - For me its the boards fault on so many levels but I dont want to go down that path yet again. But does anyone think that Lambert is the man to get us back up? It appears that he prefers experienced players to youngsters (at least so far) and, if this continues and is a fair reflection of his mindset, I can imagine a Stoke championship team full of cheap (little or no money coming from the board) journeymen that will stabilise the club. (I really do think that the club will have little investment and once any big assets are disposed of, Butland etc, the club may be put up for sale - no matter what the Coates say out in the press). So what would be an alternative to lambert and his experienced journeymen? Well, we do seem to have a fair few decent youngsters coming through and (going with Peter Coates' long term wishes about the academy) therefore dont we need a manager that is known to support young players and help them flourish? I really think that it will be a cert that next year we will have a very young team on the pitch - so we need a manager that will manage them in the correct way. So shoot me down but what about Martin Jol? No club at the moment after leaving Egypt because of security risks. Knows English football Always brought young talent through, playing attractive football - as in his time at Spurs (and a bonus that Sobhi and the Egyptians love him!) yes hes 62 - but is that really too old? Just an idea. I would rather have a young British manager known to bring youngsters through, but my knowledge of lower league managers with such "qualifications" is lacking Im afraid. Anyone know of any other younger better British alternatives that will bring on our youngsters? I just cant see anything positive from keeping Lambert - I hope Im wrong. So what about Jol? Got to be more exciting than Lambert surely! (and a return the schexxshy football?) Have we been relegated yet or have I missed something
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Post by Gods on Mar 25, 2018 9:19:04 GMT
Unfortunately I dont think we will make it out of this fix we are in now - For me its the boards fault on so many levels but I dont want to go down that path yet again. But does anyone think that Lambert is the man to get us back up? It appears that he prefers experienced players to youngsters (at least so far) and, if this continues and is a fair reflection of his mindset, I can imagine a Stoke championship team full of cheap (little or no money coming from the board) journeymen that will stabilise the club. (I really do think that the club will have little investment and once any big assets are disposed of, Butland etc, the club may be put up for sale - no matter what the Coates say out in the press). So what would be an alternative to lambert and his experienced journeymen? Well, we do seem to have a fair few decent youngsters coming through and (going with Peter Coates' long term wishes about the academy) therefore dont we need a manager that is known to support young players and help them flourish? I really think that it will be a cert that next year we will have a very young team on the pitch - so we need a manager that will manage them in the correct way. So shoot me down but what about Martin Jol? No club at the moment after leaving Egypt because of security risks. Knows English football Always brought young talent through, playing attractive football - as in his time at Spurs (and a bonus that Sobhi and the Egyptians love him!) yes hes 62 - but is that really too old? Just an idea. I would rather have a young British manager known to bring youngsters through, but my knowledge of lower league managers with such "qualifications" is lacking Im afraid. Anyone know of any other younger better British alternatives that will bring on our youngsters? I just cant see anything positive from keeping Lambert - I hope Im wrong. So what about Jol? Got to be more exciting than Lambert surely! (and a return the schexxshy football?) Have we been relegated yet or have I missed something It's not a mathematical certainty but unfortunately you don't need to spend too long with a league table, a form guide and the fixtures calendar to come to the realisation that the game is well and truly up!
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Post by lordb on Mar 25, 2018 9:52:02 GMT
I’m now beginning to wonder if Lambert will even last until the end of this season. His reign has parallels with Kamara’s. Momentum has now been lost. Relegation is inevitable. I can see Lambert leaving before we play Palace. It's not like Kamaras is it. We got hammered left right and centre. That isn't happening now. Be amazed if Lambert isn't the manager in August. If he's still there by Xmas mind that's a different story.
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Post by Gods on Mar 25, 2018 10:00:14 GMT
Funny looking fella. Why is he wearing a jesters hat?!
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Post by thevoid on Mar 25, 2018 10:31:05 GMT
Paul Cook Paul Hirst Dean Smith Graham Potter
All realistic, all would see us as a step up and play positive football. And they're all from Good Olde Great Britain.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Mar 25, 2018 10:31:26 GMT
We should go balls out to bring in slavisa jokanovic from Fulham. Been saying this since "last" season, never mind this!!! He should have been the first choice straight away, and we should have gone all out to get him!!!
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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 25, 2018 10:45:26 GMT
We should go balls out to bring in slavisa jokanovic from Fulham. Been saying this since "last" season, never mind this!!! He should have been the first choice straight away, and we should have gone all out to get him!!! He probably was gettable in mid-January. Fulham were outside the play-offs when Lambert was appointed, and Jokanovic was moaning about lack of support from the board. But wouldn't have thought there was any chance at all of getting him now, even if Fulham don't get promoted. Aside from a punt on a foreign QSF-type, we probably are looking at a lower-league punt now. Sounds like Moyes will be available at West Ham, and can see Coates being interested there. Would Marco Silva take it? Probably not. Derek McInnes continues to do pretty well at Aberdeen? The Brentford manager, Dean Smith, continues to get plaudits. But Paul Cook seems an interesting option. Chesterfield L2 8th L2 1st L1 6th Portsmouth L2 1st Wigan L1 2nd It'll be depressing if Lambert's in charge.
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Post by Roger Everyone on Mar 25, 2018 10:50:45 GMT
Paul Cook Paul Hirst Dean Smith Graham Potter All realistic, all would see us as a step up and play positive football. And they're all from Good Olde Great Britain. Knowing our luck, it will be Sol campbell.... Potter for me, at least has a name that fits in. Lambert will be gone without doubt.
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Post by Gods on Mar 25, 2018 10:52:29 GMT
Seriously folks do you really think we might terminate Lambert's contract?
We would need to pay off the remaining 2 years of his contract and we only just did the same thing with Hughes contract 8 short weeks ago.
Effectively we would go in to next season paying the wages of 3 managers.
So you could add this to the already burgeoning list of wasted money on players which is well documented elsewhere.
And if we did we surely couldn't do so without dispatching the Chief Executive who has led the search for this litany of failed managers. And guess what, we couldn't sack him without another generous pay off.
I mean we may as well have the shirt off Peter Coates back as well!
And at what point would Denise Coates pop up from behind the parapet and call 'time' on this football club ownership nonsense on the basis that, fantasy fun though it may be for the men folk at Bet365, we are simply hemorrhaging money and it is no longer commensurate with running a successful business?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 25, 2018 10:52:44 GMT
Yeah, we should’ve gone for Jokanovic but we missed our chance there.
It’s going to be Lambert for a while we’ve got to imagine. We presumably gave him that contract for a reason.
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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 25, 2018 10:56:35 GMT
We don't know for sure there's not a break clause in our favour, do we? (and it's not the kind of thing that would be mentioned in an appointment announcement designed to give some stability)
Lambert was utterly desperate and even top half Championship clubs wouldn't have touched him with 2 barge poles.
If we've boxed ourselves in without one, we really do need our heads examined
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Post by Pugsley on Mar 25, 2018 11:14:16 GMT
Paul Cook Paul Hirst Dean Smith Graham Potter All realistic, all would see us as a step up and play positive football. And they're all from Good Olde Great Britain. All small time appointments geared for a number of years in the Championship and below.. We're a club in decline run by amateurs who somehow have convinced the media they are 'football' men. 10 years (10) of PL gazillions and they've engineered this situation. Clueless.
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