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Post by numpty40 on Mar 3, 2018 21:33:43 GMT
Positives - 1 loss in 6. Shored up the defence. Brought BMI back into the team Negatives - odd substitutions, keeping Fletcher in the squad. Dropping Ramadan. The infighting that occurs all over the pitch. Will it be PFL's fault we go down? No. It'll be the clubs fault for not addressing the striker situation and Berahino's fault for being such a fucking let down. Either way, if we stay up or go down....I still don't want PFL at the club. This is becoming a real issue, we are confirming what we are, a disorganised disjointed bickering rabble. The spat between Shaq and Diouf was embarrassing. |
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Post by Gary Hackett on Mar 3, 2018 21:37:33 GMT
Positives - 1 loss in 6. Shored up the defence. Brought BMI back into the team Negatives - odd substitutions, keeping Fletcher in the squad. Dropping Ramadan. The infighting that occurs all over the pitch. Will it be PFL's fault we go down? No. It'll be the clubs fault for not addressing the striker situation and Berahino's fault for being such a fucking let down. Either way, if we stay up or go down....I still don't want PFL at the club. This is becoming a real issue, we are confirming what we are, a disorganised disjointed bickering rabble. The spat between Shaq and Diouf was embarrassing. Not really, Shaq was just confirming that Diouf is an utterly shit striker no better than Cameron Jerome but with an engine. |
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Post by GeneralFaye on Mar 3, 2018 21:41:04 GMT
This is becoming a real issue, we are confirming what we are, a disorganised disjointed bickering rabble. The spat between Shaq and Diouf was embarrassing. Not really, Shaq was just confirming that Diouf is an utterly shit striker no better than Cameron Jerome but with an engine. That 30 yard last min (I think) equaliser against Southampton was special though wasn't it?! A pure rocket.. and fluke. |
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Post by numpty40 on Mar 3, 2018 21:43:38 GMT
This is becoming a real issue, we are confirming what we are, a disorganised disjointed bickering rabble. The spat between Shaq and Diouf was embarrassing. Not really, Shaq was just confirming that Diouf is an utterly shit striker no better than Cameron Jerome but with an engine. He also fell out with Bauer and Allen. I like the new energised Shaq but he can't keep bollocking every team mate because a pass doesn't land at his feet or a team mate fails to read a pass. It only leads to acrimony within the team. |
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Post by owdestokie2 on Mar 3, 2018 21:49:15 GMT
A tit that can’t or doesn’t not want to look and constructively consider all aspects of our current plight. PL at this minute is the last of our concerns He clearly isn't. His decisons have been terrible.  |
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Post by Ryan_Shawjosh on Mar 3, 2018 21:52:18 GMT
Guardiola, Mourinho etc would do f all with the team we have. The problem isn't the manager anymore, the problem is the squad the ex manager developed. Rubbish. Point well made. What would other managers do differently? |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 3, 2018 21:55:03 GMT
Point well made. What would other managers do differently? Win a game or two? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2018 21:57:03 GMT
He's carrying the can for a terrible squad, while the people responsible for that squad are still here. He's sorted out our biggest problems in defence, but he can't make our hopeless midfielders and forwards turn into a half decent group of attackers by magic. The change was made far, far, far too late. Spot on mate. Far too many idiots on here that just don't understand football one iota. He's been given an impossible job and had two fingers stuck up to him by not having a quality forward brought in. Doesn't mean he isn't a poor manager who should never have been in line for the job though does it? |
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Post by Ryan_Shawjosh on Mar 3, 2018 22:00:06 GMT
Point well made. What would other managers do differently? Win a game or two? How? |
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Post by owdestokie2 on Mar 3, 2018 22:02:45 GMT
To enlighten the majority can you detail individually the specific areas where PL has failed to-date?
This will provide all with the opportunity to respond to such a sweeping statement as “Lambert has to go at the end of the season”
A statement based upon what.?
Thanks
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Post by chiswickpotter on Mar 3, 2018 22:11:13 GMT
I thought we were owrayt at times We would have finished bottom under Hughes. Where there's life there's hope. Lambert has less points against the same opponents than Hughes. We have shored up the defense but at the expense of any sign of trying to play football. The substitutes today made no sense and for the firstb30 minutes of the second half we had no shape at all with Allen covering half the pitch on his own. If you play Jesé and Shan then Crouch can’t be the third striker Today was a hard slog to get a point against a very poor side |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 3, 2018 22:11:43 GMT
Setting up to try and score a goal would be lovely. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 3, 2018 22:12:08 GMT
To enlighten the majority can you detail individually the specific areas where PL has failed to-date? This will provide all with the opportunity to respond to such a sweeping statement as “Lambert has to go at the end of the season” A statement based upon what.? Thanks Read the thread? |
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Post by owdestokie2 on Mar 3, 2018 22:16:52 GMT
To enlighten the majority can you detail individually the specific areas where PL has failed to-date? This will provide all with the opportunity to respond to such a sweeping statement as “Lambert has to go at the end of the season” A statement based upon what.? Thanks Read the thread? Don’t hide. Simply put forward a detailed point for point comment. It’s easy to create an OP with a statement and no specific detail or was that the agenda? |
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Post by sharonbeech21 on Mar 3, 2018 22:18:02 GMT
Its not Paul Lamberts fault that we are where we are. Its Mark Hughes fault and the board for not sacking him sooner.I dont think Paul Lambert will keep us up because the damage was already done and we are not scoring the goals to win games
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 3, 2018 22:19:30 GMT
Don’t hide. Simply put forward a detailed point for point comment. It’s easy to create an OP with a statement and no specific detail or was that the agenda? It's all been said on here. Read through it. |
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Post by Ryan_Shawjosh on Mar 3, 2018 22:19:33 GMT
Setting up to try and score a goal would be lovely. With what players? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2018 22:20:02 GMT
To enlighten the majority can you detail individually the specific areas where PL has failed to-date? This will provide all with the opportunity to respond to such a sweeping statement as “Lambert has to go at the end of the season” A statement based upon what.? Thanks The majority? Everyone I know thinks lambert is not good enough. When he took over, we were not doing well, but with the run of games we had all of us thought we would pull clear. We are now relegation certainties. In that run of games he has focused only on putting men behind the ball.the problem is we needed to win three from that six. We've never looked as hopeless and devoid of tactics as we do now. Lambert is way out of his depth |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 3, 2018 22:20:19 GMT
Its not Paul Lamberts fault that we are where we are. Its Mark Hughes fault and the board for not sacking him sooner.I dont think Paul Lambert will keep us up because the damage was already done and we are not scoring the goals to win games So what was the point in sacking him? |
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Post by henry on Mar 3, 2018 22:21:18 GMT
PFL or QSF
we get relegated with a bloke in a shit blue tracksuit
or
we get relegated with a beard of the year wearing a scarf.
who gives a shit
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Post by numpty40 on Mar 3, 2018 22:21:47 GMT
To enlighten the majority can you detail individually the specific areas where PL has failed to-date? This will provide all with the opportunity to respond to such a sweeping statement as “Lambert has to go at the end of the season” A statement based upon what.? Thanks Won less points than his predecessor in corresponding fixtures? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2018 22:24:35 GMT
Setting up to try and score a goal would be lovely. With what players? Stoke have a better squad than Brighton,Huddersfield, west brom, newcastle,swansea at least. Lambert is under achieving with the players we have |
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Post by kustokie on Mar 3, 2018 22:25:31 GMT
Spot on mate. Far too many idiots on here that just don't understand football one iota. He's been given an impossible job and had two fingers stuck up to him by not having a quality forward brought in. Impossible job my backside. We have a good starting XI and he's got nowhere near it with his insistence on an awful formation. Why didn't he push for a striker? It's not all on the board. The bloke just makes bizarre decisions and doesn't seem to learn. What evidence is there that Lambert didn’t push the board to sign a striker in January? BTW your third sentence contradicts your sentence. How can we have a good starting eleven if we don’t have a decent striker? |
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Post by sharonbeech21 on Mar 3, 2018 22:28:19 GMT
Well bayern do you really believe that Lambert will keep us up. We are not good enough. Mark Hughes needed to go. I hope he does keep us but i dont think so. We are 2nd bottom for a reason we are not good enough
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Post by kustokie on Mar 3, 2018 22:29:10 GMT
Not really, Shaq was just confirming that Diouf is an utterly shit striker no better than Cameron Jerome but with an engine. He also fell out with Bauer and Allen. I like the new energised Shaq but he can't keep bollocking every team mate because a pass doesn't land at his feet or a team mate fails to read a pass. It only leads to acrimony within the team. I agree. The real Shaq has finally decided to show up and he’s clearly frustrated; however, that doesn’t excuse his childish behavior. |
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Post by tony1234 on Mar 3, 2018 22:29:31 GMT
Stoke have a better squad than Brighton,Huddersfield, west brom, newcastle,swansea at least. Lambert is under achieving with the players we have Based on what evidence and logic exactly? |
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Post by owdestokie2 on Mar 3, 2018 22:32:36 GMT
To enlighten the majority can you detail individually the specific areas where PL has failed to-date? This will provide all with the opportunity to respond to such a sweeping statement as “Lambert has to go at the end of the season” A statement based upon what.? Thanks Won less points than his predecessor in corresponding fixtures? Just to get it clear in my mind about your argument. The previous manager who should have been sacked 12 months ago has left a “squad” of dysfunctional footballers ( with exceptions) who would drop out of the Sentinel never the Premiership. New manager comes in at a time of crisis and has to create and oversee a miracle. At at the moment our goals against which was the worst in Europe has improved beyond recognition. Our goals for is poor due to having possibly the worst set of forward players in th3 top two divisions and yet there’s no slack for the new man. OK |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 3, 2018 22:34:08 GMT
Well bayern do you really believe that Lambert will keep us up. We are not good enough. Mark Hughes needed to go. I hope he does keep us but i dont think so. We are 2nd bottom for a reason we are not good enough So you wanted Hughes sacked. You don't think Lambert will keep us up. You're ok with that. That's not very logical. |
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Post by Pugsley on Mar 3, 2018 22:37:50 GMT
He just has to. He's a pretty awful manager and isn't what we need if we stay up or go down. Massive changes are needed top to bottom and they have to include Lambert. You suffer the illusion that Stoke in the summer can go out and get a better manager. While it's true that more managerial changes take place after a season ends, there's little to indicate that a manager under contract is lining up to be signing with us. There's a lesson to be learned from the replacement fiasco which occurred in January. We didn't get the best manager that we wanted, but we got the best manager that was available to us. At the moment the only manager who looks to be available is Alan Pardew. He sells himself at a high price and leaves soon after. Lambert on the other hand may be dull but he offers us stability. He's sorted out our defence and defensive midfield well enough. He'll be well aware that attack is dire, but his hands were tied in January and thereafter. Regardless of which division we play in next year we have to believe he will find a solution. I'd like to think he might bring in a couple of Scotsmen to play upfront, as both the national and otherwise international markets appear to be closed for us; we simply cannot compete to bring in any quality strikers. You're the exact reason we have won 1 cup in 150+ years. |
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Post by sharonbeech21 on Mar 3, 2018 22:40:05 GMT
Well bayern do you really believe that Lambert will keep us up. We are not good enough. Mark Hughes needed to go. I hope he does keep us but i dont think so. We are 2nd bottom for a reason we are not good enough So you wanted Hughes sacked. You don't think Lambert will keep us up. You're ok with that. That's not very logical. You havent answered my question bayern of do you think we will stay up? So i can only assume like me you dont either |
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