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Post by numpty40 on Mar 3, 2018 19:45:42 GMT
My lovely empty row? He's not good enough. He wouldn't have been good enough even if we had a balanced fit squad, he certainly isn't good enough with the pile of unfit shitness Hughes has left him to work with, it is not his fault he was desperate for the job I blame the people in charge for the whole sorry pile of shit we have become, including hiring Lambert. It is, he's not very good and that's why he was desperate. |
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 3, 2018 19:49:29 GMT
He wouldn't have been good enough even if we had a balanced fit squad, he certainly isn't good enough with the pile of unfit shitness Hughes has left him to work with, it is not his fault he was desperate for the job I blame the people in charge for the whole sorry pile of shit we have become, including hiring Lambert. It is, he's not very good and that's why he was desperate. I was trying to go easy on him  , this down to keeping Hughes in the summer and that is down to the half wits in charge of the club. |
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Post by kidcrewbob on Mar 3, 2018 20:02:35 GMT
I like Lambert - he's a decent bloke and was a great player and an ok boss in the lower divisions but like a lot of the meat'n'taters domestic managers they are increasingly out of their depth in the prem - QSF was the only option that had a realistic chance of saving us IMHO and we couldn't make it happen - should have happened in the summer mind you but ditherer in chief "what's alll the fuss" PC let apathy and complacency masquerade as loyalty and now we are all paying the price - if we go down we may as well stick with him as we're never gonna attract a "name" or decent foreign coach - what a shambles.
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Post by Godo on Mar 3, 2018 20:11:39 GMT
Because there'll be top class managers queuing round the block to take over this club in the Championship especially when we have sold Shaq,Allen and Butland and are left with rest!!?? He's doing a very good job with what he inherited but too little too late.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 3, 2018 20:13:31 GMT
I like Lambert - he's a decent bloke and was a great player and an ok boss in the lower divisions but like a lot of the meat'n'taters domestic managers they are increasingly out of their depth in the prem - QSF was the only option that had a realistic chance of saving us IMHO and we couldn't make it happen - should have happened in the summer mind you but ditherer in chief "what's alll the fuss" PC let apathy and complacency masquerade as loyalty and now we are all paying the price - if we go down we may as well stick with him as we're never gonna attract a "name" or decent foreign coach - what a shambles. Why won't we attract one? QSF's agent came to us. |
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Post by senojbor on Mar 3, 2018 20:15:27 GMT
I like Lambert - he's a decent bloke and was a great player and an ok boss in the lower divisions but like a lot of the meat'n'taters domestic managers they are increasingly out of their depth in the prem - QSF was the only option that had a realistic chance of saving us IMHO and we couldn't make it happen - should have happened in the summer mind you but ditherer in chief "what's alll the fuss" PC let apathy and complacency masquerade as loyalty and now we are all paying the price - if we go down we may as well stick with him as we're never gonna attract a "name" or decent foreign coach - what a shambles. Why won't we attract one? QSF's agent came to us. He turned us down or didn't you notice? |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 3, 2018 20:18:18 GMT
Why won't we attract one? QSF's agent came to us. He turned us down or didn't you notice? You've missed the point though. He did but his agent came to us in the first instance. It shows we can be attractive. Then something changed, I wouldn't be impressed dealing with Scholes either. Lambert was high up our list from the off. That shows that our boards ambition is the same as these people who still think we're little old Stoke. We're not. That attitude has to fuck off. |
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Post by wembley1972 on Mar 3, 2018 20:20:22 GMT
There really is a bunch of total toss pots posting on this site. Hindsight hero's, if we win all's good, if we lose the manager whoever he is should have played a different side, played a different sub and so on, this is said without fear of being wrong because we will simply never know will we.
Fact is Hughes and the board got us in this mess they had over 4 years together, so it has to be their fault.
Lambert was not the first or even second choice, he may well have been the only one willing to work under the terms of the board, we don't know. One things for sure, he can't be held responsible if we do go down.
By the way I'm not a Lambert fan, I've followed my team for over 50 years, seen players and managers come and go. The only constant we have is our loyal fan base.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 3, 2018 20:22:26 GMT
There really is a bunch of total toss pots posting on this site. Hindsight hero's, if we win all's good, if we lose the manager whoever he is should have played a different side, played a different sub and so on, this is said without fear of being wrong because we will simply never know will we. Fact is Hughes and the board got us in this mess they had over 4 years together, so it has to be their fault. Lambert was not the first or even second choice, he may well have been the only one willing to work under the terms of the board, we don't know. One things for sure, he can't be held responsible if we do go down. By the way I'm not a Lambert fan, I've followed my team for over 50 years, seen players and managers come and go. The only constant we have is our loyal fan base. Hindsight? Not at all. |
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Post by supersimonstainrod on Mar 3, 2018 20:22:58 GMT
Impossible job my backside. We have a good starting XI and he's got nowhere near it with his insistence on an awful formation. Why didn't he push for a striker? It's not all on the board. The bloke just makes bizarre decisions and doesn't seem to learn. What good starting XI? We've got a decent back four and goalkeeper, but it's a complete bombsite beyond that, however you configure the individual parts. It's rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic. Agreed. Hughes messed up the one positive we had,a potentially good defensive unit,by adopting 3-4-3 to try and compensate for the inadequacies everywhere else. As a work colleague said to me t'other day: "Stop Shaqiri and you stop Stoke." |
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Mar 3, 2018 20:23:15 GMT
There really is a bunch of total toss pots posting on this site. Hindsight hero's, if we win all's good, if we lose the manager whoever he is should have played a different side, played a different sub and so on, this is said without fear of being wrong because we will simply never know will we. Fact is Hughes and the board got us in this mess they had over 4 years together, so it has to be their fault. Lambert was not the first or even second choice, he may well have been the only one willing to work under the terms of the board, we don't know. One things for sure, he can't be held responsible if we do go down. By the way I'm not a Lambert fan, I've followed my team for over 50 years, seen players and managers come and go. The only constant we have is our loyal fan base. Of course he will be responsible (at least partly) if we go down, otherwise what was the point of changing manager |
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Post by sufolkstokie on Mar 3, 2018 20:26:00 GMT
He turned us down or didn't you notice? You've missed the point though. He did but his agent came to us in the first instance. It shows we can be attractive. Then something changed, I wouldn't be impressed dealing with Scholes either. Lambert was high up our list from the off. That shows that our boards ambition is the same as these people who still think we're little old Stoke. We're not. That attitude has to fuck off. Dunna worry - we will be back to little old Stoke next season in the Championship and the cap will fit and we will get the morons saying it is better with the true fans in a half empty stadium, still spouting their spew about what do you expect, get behind the boys and stop slagging the manager or the board The mistakes are there for everyone to see but some refuse to I support them home and away but retain my right to say it as I see it once the final whistle has blown. Lambert 6 months ago would have been laughed off by pretty much everyone. The bench today was an indictment of where we are - down to the board. Now we have a promising striker who gets dropped but does not feature in the U23's either - see Shenton 2 years ago Shocking all around |
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Post by SneydGreenStokie on Mar 3, 2018 20:31:15 GMT
I agree. He's just a complete nothingness, a non-entity. The best thing you can say about him is that he's plugged the leaky defence, but any idiot could have done that (apart from ultra-Moron Mark). I don't hate him, I don't feel anything about him at all. He's just beige and crap. He should be a tiny footnote in SCFC history. Ultra moron Mark Three consecutive 9th placed finishes Exciting football Yes, he lost his way in the end but lets not forget, he improved things SGS |
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Post by SneydGreenStokie on Mar 3, 2018 20:31:46 GMT
The seasons done it was the moment PL walked in the door. Who should of been appointed then if not PL ? Tony Pulis should ave been considered SGS |
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Post by metalhead on Mar 3, 2018 20:38:21 GMT
Hello admins, my name is metalhead. Hover that finger over the ban button. We ready:
Fuck off. Fuck right off. Fuck fuck fuck off. Fuck you and fuck off.
Bye everyone. Preferably not a perm ban. 2 weeks will suffice. See you
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Post by metalhead on Mar 3, 2018 20:39:04 GMT
Maybe but he’s shored up the ship. To have a go at him before the season ends is disrespectful massively He’s come in a very difficult situation and he’s doing above par Have your 10p worth in May but let him do his job We are well in the mix and that was a good point. B He's shite. We need wins, he's as uninspiring as the last bloke and isn't really much of a change. He's got to go come what may at the end of the season. So disappointed with you mate |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 3, 2018 20:44:36 GMT
He's shite. We need wins, he's as uninspiring as the last bloke and isn't really much of a change. He's got to go come what may at the end of the season. So disappointed with you mate Why? He's clearly a pretty dreadful manager. Do you honestly want him past this season? As Suffolk says if he was suggested 6 months by someone, we would have laughed them off and called them a mad cunt. Lambert isn't what this football club needs past this season. Time will tell if he's what we need for this one and I hope to God he is because the Championship is shite. |
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Post by Gary Hackett on Mar 3, 2018 20:47:28 GMT
He's improved us defensively but that's not difficult is it really.
He's a very limited manager.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2018 20:51:55 GMT
He just has to. He's a pretty awful manager and isn't what we need if we stay up or go down. Massive changes are needed top to bottom and they have to include Lambert. You suffer the illusion that Stoke in the summer can go out and get a better manager. While it's true that more managerial changes take place after a season ends, there's little to indicate that a manager under contract is lining up to be signing with us. There's a lesson to be learned from the replacement fiasco which occurred in January. We didn't get the best manager that we wanted, but we got the best manager that was available to us. At the moment the only manager who looks to be available is Alan Pardew. He sells himself at a high price and leaves soon after. Lambert on the other hand may be dull but he offers us stability. He's sorted out our defence and defensive midfield well enough. He'll be well aware that attack is dire, but his hands were tied in January and thereafter. Regardless of which division we play in next year we have to believe he will find a solution. I'd like to think he might bring in a couple of Scotsmen to play upfront, as both the national and otherwise international markets appear to be closed for us; we simply cannot compete to bring in any quality strikers. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 3, 2018 20:52:52 GMT
He just has to. He's a pretty awful manager and isn't what we need if we stay up or go down. Massive changes are needed top to bottom and they have to include Lambert. You suffer the illusion that Stoke in the summer can go out and get a better manager. While it's true that more managerial changes take place after a season ends, there's little to indicate that a manager under contract is lining up to be signing with us. There's a lesson to be learned from the replacement fiasco which occurred in January. We didn't get the best manager that we wanted, but we got the best manager that was available to us. At the moment the only manager who looks to be available is Alan Pardew. He sells himself at a high price and leaves soon after. Lambert on the other hand may be dull but he offers us stability. He's sorted out our defence and defensive midfield well enough. He'll be well aware that attack is dire, but his hands were tied in January and thereafter. Regardless of which division we play in next year we have to believe he will find a solution. I'd like to think he might bring in a couple of Scotsmen to play upfront, as both the national and otherwise international markets appear to be closed for us; we simply cannot compete to bring in any quality strikers. Tony Scholes likes this. |
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Post by thevoid on Mar 3, 2018 20:54:27 GMT
Who should of been appointed then if not PL ? Tony Pulis should ave been considered SGS Two-win Tone? |
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Post by owdestokie2 on Mar 3, 2018 21:01:21 GMT
He just has to. He's a pretty awful manager and isn't what we need if we stay up or go down. Massive changes are needed top to bottom and they have to include Lambert. Tit |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 3, 2018 21:04:19 GMT
He just has to. He's a pretty awful manager and isn't what we need if we stay up or go down. Massive changes are needed top to bottom and they have to include Lambert. Tit Indeed. A tit who wants his club to actually do well and can't be doing with the shite that our board serve us. |
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Post by Gary Hackett on Mar 3, 2018 21:10:25 GMT
Who should of been appointed then if not PL ? Tony Pulis should ave been considered SGS That's very, very funny. I take it you don't believe he left in very acrimonious circumstances. |
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Mar 3, 2018 21:14:19 GMT
Positives - 1 loss in 6. Shored up the defence. Brought BMI back into the team
Negatives - odd substitutions, keeping Fletcher in the squad. Dropping Ramadan. The infighting that occurs all over the pitch.
Will it be PFL's fault we go down? No. It'll be the clubs fault for not addressing the striker situation and Berahino's fault for being such a fucking let down.
Either way, if we stay up or go down....I still don't want PFL at the club.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Mar 3, 2018 21:18:12 GMT
Face it, Lambert isn't going anywhere, he was given an 18 month contract for a reason. Stay up, the board think he would've deserved to stay. Go down, the board think he'd be ideal to get us back up. Whether that's correct or not is a different matter, of course.
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Post by owdestokie2 on Mar 3, 2018 21:23:21 GMT
Indeed. A tit who wants his club to actually do well and can't be doing with the shite that our board serve us. A tit that can’t or doesn’t not want to look and constructively consider all aspects of our current plight. PL at this minute is the last of our concerns |
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Post by Gary Hackett on Mar 3, 2018 21:24:56 GMT
Face it, Lambert isn't going anywhere, he was given an 18 month contract for a reason. Stay up, the board think he would've deserved to stay. Go down, the board think he'd be ideal to get us back up. Whether that's correct or not is a different matter, of course. Exactly, he was brought in with 2 promotions from the lower divisions in mind. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 3, 2018 21:26:33 GMT
Indeed. A tit who wants his club to actually do well and can't be doing with the shite that our board serve us. A tit that can’t or doesn’t not want to look and constructively consider all aspects of our current plight. PL at this minute is the last of our concerns He clearly isn't. His decisons have been terrible. |
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Post by swampySCFC on Mar 3, 2018 21:28:26 GMT
Lambert is on a hiding to nothing. This isnt his fault he isnt going to turn us in to a top 10 side. He can stop us conceeding 3 a game but we have badly needed a goalscorer and we havent had one and that will fuck us over
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, this down to keeping Hughes in the summer and that is down to the half wits in charge of the club.
