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Post by sheikhmomo on Mar 4, 2018 10:47:04 GMT
No harm in having another winger on the bench. I just see him as a like for like with what we have. You are an intelligent lad Rob, you know how difficult it is to turn a side that has been 'locked up' to stop a rot into one that can go the other way, especially with the dire options we have at the front end of the side. It's hard to do it at Conference level. With the way the board let this situation fester and develop we were always going to end up in this situation even if they spent big in January, which they didn't. They are 100% to blame. I don’t disagree with that mate, what I find bizarre is the notion that Lambert seemingly should be completely devoid of scrutiny or accountability for the games he’s currently in charge of. Mark Hughes didn’t make him put two left backs on yesterday. We are running out of games and we’ve completely blown our winnable run. Lambert didn’t get us into this mess, but he hasn’t really helped either. Great job sorting the defence out, needed doing. But surely to God we have to have to actually try and beat somebody? I don't think he's beyond scrutiny at all, winning one and losing one out of six with this lot is about 6/10 in my view. The previous incumbent (whose true legacy gets shittier with every passing day) left us with a desperate need for fitness and organisation and he's ticked those boxes pretty well and pretty quickly. Of course we need a bit more now, the margin for error has all but gone, Everton, West Ham, Burnley and Palace simply has to produce 9 points and we need a crumb or two from elsewhere or a shit or bust last day game against Swansea. Lambert is what he is. What were people really expecting? |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 4, 2018 10:48:55 GMT
I don’t disagree with that mate, what I find bizarre is the notion that Lambert seemingly should be completely devoid of scrutiny or accountability for the games he’s currently in charge of. Mark Hughes didn’t make him put two left backs on yesterday. We are running out of games and we’ve completely blown our winnable run. Lambert didn’t get us into this mess, but he hasn’t really helped either. Great job sorting the defence out, needed doing. But surely to God we have to have to actually try and beat somebody? I don't think he's beyond scrutiny at all, winning one and losing one out of six with this lot is about 6/10 in my view. The previous incumbent (whose true legacy gets shittier with every passing day) left us with a desperate need for fitness and organisation and he's ticked those boxes pretty well and pretty quickly. Of course we need a bit more now, the margin for error has all but gone, Everton, West Ham, Burnley and Palace simply has to produce 9 points and we need a crumb or two from elsewhere or a shit or bust last day game against Swansea. Lambert is what he is. What were people really expecting? I expected more than one win against what we've played tbh. |
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Post by sufolkstokie on Mar 4, 2018 10:50:22 GMT
I don’t disagree with that mate, what I find bizarre is the notion that Lambert seemingly should be completely devoid of scrutiny or accountability for the games he’s currently in charge of. Mark Hughes didn’t make him put two left backs on yesterday. We are running out of games and we’ve completely blown our winnable run. Lambert didn’t get us into this mess, but he hasn’t really helped either. Great job sorting the defence out, needed doing. But surely to God we have to have to actually try and beat somebody? I don't think he's beyond scrutiny at all, winning one and losing one out of six with this lot is about 6/10 in my view. The previous incumbent (whose true legacy gets shittier with every passing day) left us with a desperate need for fitness and organisation and he's ticked those boxes pretty well and pretty quickly. Of course we need a bit more now, the margin for error has all but gone, Everton, West Ham, Burnley and Palace simply has to produce 9 points and we need a crumb or two from elsewhere or a shit or bust last day game against Swansea. Lambert is what he is. What were people really expecting? He is Pulis without the cap. Coates must be really pleased. It is dire to watch and he is producing exactly what I feared. Meanwhile the bloke at Swansea with a poorer squad is ripping up trees. Blame is again at the boards door. No doubt we will be stuck with him in hoofball mid table, mind numbing Championship football next year |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2018 10:51:37 GMT
The one game out of 6 where I think Lambert under performed was Watford at home - where I said at the time his Plan A was to boot it long and his plan B was to use a bigger hammer (IIRC). Even then you look at the bench and think "Christ, he hasn't got a lot to use to change this has he?". The real nub of this argument is Shaqiri - for all of his good recent attacking form we are essentially lumping our entire survival on his shoulders. Which is why he needs to stop denying himself options mate. Whatever you think of Jese and Sobhi they have the potential to change a game that Johnson and Fletcher don’t. That’s what I object to - the unnecessary self-limiting of our chances through his selections and subs. If he knew our squad so well, why is he at pains to restrict already meagre pickings? We need a central midfield option on the bench. Johnson is an odd one. We're nit picking here. We really are. We're arguing the toss over Jese and Ramadan - both of which IMO are desperately poor options - one with a suspect attitude and temperament and the other who is a grafter and not a lot more. This club has done nothing but appoint pragmatist manager's since it came back, even the continental QSF we were linked to is a pragmatist that shit himself when Watford went on the slide - ripped all creativity out of the side and packed it full of grafters, despite having two centre forwards WAY better than anything we have currently. They more than most (we as fans certainly do) should know that without a stardust player or two the pragmatist football manager produces results and football like this. Shaqiri is playing well under Lambert and that proves that should he have a number of those types of options in his squad that he can both manage them mentally and get them performing on the pitch. We just don't have enough of them in the squad. |
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Post by sufolkstokie on Mar 4, 2018 10:51:42 GMT
I don't think he's beyond scrutiny at all, winning one and losing one out of six with this lot is about 6/10 in my view. The previous incumbent (whose true legacy gets shittier with every passing day) left us with a desperate need for fitness and organisation and he's ticked those boxes pretty well and pretty quickly. Of course we need a bit more now, the margin for error has all but gone, Everton, West Ham, Burnley and Palace simply has to produce 9 points and we need a crumb or two from elsewhere or a shit or bust last day game against Swansea. Lambert is what he is. What were people really expecting? I expected more than one win against what we've played tbh. Nah - you get what you pay for. Wolves sacked him for goodness sake. |
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Post by mrcoke on Mar 4, 2018 10:51:59 GMT
If we stay up, it will be down to Lambert and there is no way he should be sacked, but allowed to develop the team. We are less likely to attract the likes of Arni, Shaq, and Bojan with PL at the helm, but he is more likely to sign sound characters with some grit and determination. If we are relegated, who is going to come to Stoke in the Championship? Looking at his record, could be he is more likely to leave us than we sack him. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Lambert |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2018 10:52:24 GMT
I don't think he's beyond scrutiny at all, winning one and losing one out of six with this lot is about 6/10 in my view. The previous incumbent (whose true legacy gets shittier with every passing day) left us with a desperate need for fitness and organisation and he's ticked those boxes pretty well and pretty quickly. Of course we need a bit more now, the margin for error has all but gone, Everton, West Ham, Burnley and Palace simply has to produce 9 points and we need a crumb or two from elsewhere or a shit or bust last day game against Swansea. Lambert is what he is. What were people really expecting? I expected more than one win against what we've played tbh. Well to be honest thats you all over isnt it. Ricardo Fuller said in the week that we were the most unfit team in the league. Lambert has done ok. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 4, 2018 10:57:42 GMT
I don’t disagree with that mate, what I find bizarre is the notion that Lambert seemingly should be completely devoid of scrutiny or accountability for the games he’s currently in charge of. Mark Hughes didn’t make him put two left backs on yesterday. We are running out of games and we’ve completely blown our winnable run. Lambert didn’t get us into this mess, but he hasn’t really helped either. Great job sorting the defence out, needed doing. But surely to God we have to have to actually try and beat somebody? I don't think he's beyond scrutiny at all, winning one and losing one out of six with this lot is about 6/10 in my view. The previous incumbent (whose true legacy gets shittier with every passing day) left us with a desperate need for fitness and organisation and he's ticked those boxes pretty well and pretty quickly. Of course we need a bit more now, the margin for error has all but gone, Everton, West Ham, Burnley and Palace simply has to produce 9 points and we need a crumb or two from elsewhere or a shit or bust last day game against Swansea. Lambert is what he is. What were people really expecting? What I was hoping for is the Norwich Lambert, who mixed steel with enterprise. I hoped this surprise last chance for him would see him grasp it in a blaze of glory. What we’ve got seems to be the man broken by Villa who’s about half a toblerone away from driving to Dundee in bare feet. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 4, 2018 10:58:45 GMT
If we stay up, it will be down to Lambert and there is no way he should be sacked, but allowed to develop the team. We are less likely to attract the likes of Arni, Shaq, and Bojan with PL at the helm, but he is more likely to sign sound characters with some grit and determination. If we are relegated, who is going to come to Stoke in the Championship? Looking at his record, could be he is more likely to leave us than we sack him. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_LambertThe idea that you can’t find a good manager in the Championship is based on what, Cokey? |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 4, 2018 11:00:33 GMT
I don't think he's beyond scrutiny at all, winning one and losing one out of six with this lot is about 6/10 in my view. The previous incumbent (whose true legacy gets shittier with every passing day) left us with a desperate need for fitness and organisation and he's ticked those boxes pretty well and pretty quickly. Of course we need a bit more now, the margin for error has all but gone, Everton, West Ham, Burnley and Palace simply has to produce 9 points and we need a crumb or two from elsewhere or a shit or bust last day game against Swansea. Lambert is what he is. What were people really expecting? I expected more than one win against what we've played tbh. especially as Mr Legacy delivery 2 against the same opponents! |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 4, 2018 11:01:15 GMT
Which is why he needs to stop denying himself options mate. Whatever you think of Jese and Sobhi they have the potential to change a game that Johnson and Fletcher don’t. That’s what I object to - the unnecessary self-limiting of our chances through his selections and subs. If he knew our squad so well, why is he at pains to restrict already meagre pickings? We need a central midfield option on the bench. Johnson is an odd one. We're nit picking here. We really are. We're arguing the toss over Jese and Ramadan - both of which IMO are desperately poor options - one with a suspect attitude and temperament and the other who is a grafter and not a lot more. This club has done nothing but appoint pragmatist manager's since it came back, even the continental QSF we were linked to is a pragmatist that shit himself when Watford went on the slide - ripped all creativity out of the side and packed it full of grafters, despite having two centre forwards WAY better than anything we have currently. They more than most (we as fans certainly do) should know that without a stardust player or two the pragmatist football manager produces results and football like this. Shaqiri is playing well under Lambert and that proves that should he have a number of those types of options in his squad that he can both manage them mentally and get them performing on the pitch. We just don't have enough of them in the squad. It’s really not nitpicking mate, you’re missing my point. The manager’s own negativity is proving as dangerous as anything else. It isn’t nitpicking to say you need some potential game changers on the bench when you’re fighting for your life, or to say that in a crucial six pointer that’s very much there for the taking there are options beyond shoehorning another defender in there at the earliest possible opportunity. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 4, 2018 11:02:36 GMT
I expected more than one win against what we've played tbh. Well to be honest thats you all over isnt it. Ricardo Fuller said in the week that we were the most unfit team in the league. Lambert has done ok. Yeah imagine expecting to get more than one win from; Huddersfield (h) Watford (h) Brighton (h) Bournemouth (a) Leicester (a) Southampton (a) Disgraceful thinking. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 4, 2018 11:03:27 GMT
If we stay up, it will be down to Lambert and there is no way he should be sacked, but allowed to develop the team. We are less likely to attract the likes of Arni, Shaq, and Bojan with PL at the helm, but he is more likely to sign sound characters with some grit and determination. If we are relegated, who is going to come to Stoke in the Championship? Looking at his record, could be he is more likely to leave us than we sack him. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_LambertThe idea that you can’t find a good manager in the Championship is based on what, Cokey? Small mindedness. |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 4, 2018 11:03:45 GMT
I don't think he's beyond scrutiny at all, winning one and losing one out of six with this lot is about 6/10 in my view. The previous incumbent (whose true legacy gets shittier with every passing day) left us with a desperate need for fitness and organisation and he's ticked those boxes pretty well and pretty quickly. Of course we need a bit more now, the margin for error has all but gone, Everton, West Ham, Burnley and Palace simply has to produce 9 points and we need a crumb or two from elsewhere or a shit or bust last day game against Swansea. Lambert is what he is. What were people really expecting? What I was hoping for is the Norwich Lambert, who mixed steel with enterprise. I hoped this surprise last chance for him would see him grasp it in a blaze of glory. What we’ve got seems to be the man broken by Villa who’s about half a toblerone away from driving to Dundee in bare feet. That is harsh beyond even my standards!  He looks far from broken to me and the Paul Lambert we have now is no different to the one at Norwich. He was negative beyond belief as their manager as well, so much so that the arrival of Chris Hughton made them appear adventurous. |
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Post by WhyDelilah on Mar 4, 2018 11:06:29 GMT
He's done a good job and he's done exactly what we required.
Not even up for debate.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 4, 2018 11:07:12 GMT
He's done a good job and he's done exactly what we required. Not even up for debate. If we go down, which looks likely then he hasn't. So it's well up for debate. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2018 11:07:57 GMT
We need a central midfield option on the bench. Johnson is an odd one. We're nit picking here. We really are. We're arguing the toss over Jese and Ramadan - both of which IMO are desperately poor options - one with a suspect attitude and temperament and the other who is a grafter and not a lot more. This club has done nothing but appoint pragmatist manager's since it came back, even the continental QSF we were linked to is a pragmatist that shit himself when Watford went on the slide - ripped all creativity out of the side and packed it full of grafters, despite having two centre forwards WAY better than anything we have currently. They more than most (we as fans certainly do) should know that without a stardust player or two the pragmatist football manager produces results and football like this. Shaqiri is playing well under Lambert and that proves that should he have a number of those types of options in his squad that he can both manage them mentally and get them performing on the pitch. We just don't have enough of them in the squad. It’s really not nitpicking mate, you’re missing my point. The manager’s own negativity is proving as dangerous as anything else. It isn’t nitpicking to say you need some potential game changers on the bench when you’re fighting for your life, or to say that in a crucial six pointer that’s very much there for the taking there are options beyond shoehorning another defender in there at the earliest possible opportunity. So, who appointed Lambert and who have refused to give him the necessary tools to do the job? He obviously doesn't rate Ramadan or Jese and who can blame him? So why weren't they replaced with players he did rate in January? |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 4, 2018 11:09:45 GMT
What I was hoping for is the Norwich Lambert, who mixed steel with enterprise. I hoped this surprise last chance for him would see him grasp it in a blaze of glory. What we’ve got seems to be the man broken by Villa who’s about half a toblerone away from driving to Dundee in bare feet. That is harsh beyond even my standards! He looks far from broken to me and the Paul Lambert we have now is no different to the one at Norwich. He was negative beyond belief as their manager as well, so much so that the arrival of Chris Hughton made them appear adventurous. That’s 100% wrong Dave. They hated Hughton for his negativity and his Norwich side was well organised and feared nobody. They had a 442 diamond with Hoolahan at the top and their fans loved him until he left them for Villa. Trust me, I did the research. |
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Post by stokemark on Mar 4, 2018 11:09:59 GMT
He's done a good job and he's done exactly what we required. Not even up for debate. End The Thread. Here. As. It's. Not. Up. For. Debate |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 4, 2018 11:10:04 GMT
It’s really not nitpicking mate, you’re missing my point. The manager’s own negativity is proving as dangerous as anything else. It isn’t nitpicking to say you need some potential game changers on the bench when you’re fighting for your life, or to say that in a crucial six pointer that’s very much there for the taking there are options beyond shoehorning another defender in there at the earliest possible opportunity. So, who appointed Lambert and who have refused to give him the necessary tools to do the job? He obviously doesn't rate Ramadan or Jese and who can blame him? So why weren't they replaced with players he did rate in January? I can blame him. Ramadan should be in the team, it's awful management. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 4, 2018 11:11:01 GMT
He's done a good job and he's done exactly what we required. Not even up for debate. End The Thread. Here. As. It's. Not. Up. For. Debate Have you seen the list of teams we failed to beat minus Huddersfield? Piss poor. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 4, 2018 11:11:07 GMT
It’s really not nitpicking mate, you’re missing my point. The manager’s own negativity is proving as dangerous as anything else. It isn’t nitpicking to say you need some potential game changers on the bench when you’re fighting for your life, or to say that in a crucial six pointer that’s very much there for the taking there are options beyond shoehorning another defender in there at the earliest possible opportunity. So, who appointed Lambert and who have refused to give him the necessary tools to do the job? He obviously doesn't rate Ramadan or Jese and who can blame him? So why weren't they replaced with players he did rate in January? Either way they weren’t so he has to make the best of it. Do you really think we’re better off without at least giving ourselves the option of using them? |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 4, 2018 11:12:27 GMT
That is harsh beyond even my standards! He looks far from broken to me and the Paul Lambert we have now is no different to the one at Norwich. He was negative beyond belief as their manager as well, so much so that the arrival of Chris Hughton made them appear adventurous. That’s 100% wrong Dave. They hated Hughton for his negativity and his Norwich side was well organised and feared nobody. They had a 442 diamond with Hoolahan at the top and their fans loved him until he left them for Villa. Trust me, I did the research. The Norwich in league 1 and the championship maybe. The Norwich in the premier league could barely muster a shot away from home and relied on one player to produce something special to nick them a 1-0 win. Norwich fans did like Lambert though I agree. I have some good friends who are Norwich fans and they said we'd got an excellent manager on the day we appointed him. |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Mar 4, 2018 11:12:39 GMT
I don't think he's beyond scrutiny at all, winning one and losing one out of six with this lot is about 6/10 in my view. The previous incumbent (whose true legacy gets shittier with every passing day) left us with a desperate need for fitness and organisation and he's ticked those boxes pretty well and pretty quickly. Of course we need a bit more now, the margin for error has all but gone, Everton, West Ham, Burnley and Palace simply has to produce 9 points and we need a crumb or two from elsewhere or a shit or bust last day game against Swansea. Lambert is what he is. What were people really expecting? What I was hoping for is the Norwich Lambert, who mixed steel with enterprise. I hoped this surprise last chance for him would see him grasp it in a blaze of glory. What we’ve got seems to be the man broken by Villa who’s about half a toblerone away from driving to Dundee in bare feet. You think Hughes and the Pizza boys left us in a position to be overly bold? Mark Hughes has turned out to be an utter car crash of a manager. He should be banged up for the utter shambles he's left us with. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2018 11:13:34 GMT
It’s really not nitpicking mate, you’re missing my point. The manager’s own negativity is proving as dangerous as anything else. It isn’t nitpicking to say you need some potential game changers on the bench when you’re fighting for your life, or to say that in a crucial six pointer that’s very much there for the taking there are options beyond shoehorning another defender in there at the earliest possible opportunity. So, who appointed Lambert and who have refused to give him the necessary tools to do the job? He obviously doesn't rate Ramadan or Jese and who can blame him? So why weren't they replaced with players he did rate in January? He had no idea who to sign he was NOT expecting the job he even says himself he was surprised he was given a chance. He was having a cuppa with his dad and football management and players were not I his thoughts. Not prepared no staff no plan no chance not his fault btw but he should be honest and say he winging it. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 4, 2018 11:15:48 GMT
What I was hoping for is the Norwich Lambert, who mixed steel with enterprise. I hoped this surprise last chance for him would see him grasp it in a blaze of glory. What we’ve got seems to be the man broken by Villa who’s about half a toblerone away from driving to Dundee in bare feet. You think Hughes and the Pizza boys left us in a position to be overly bold? Mark Hughes has turned out to be an utter car crash of a manager. He should be banged up for the utter shambles he's left us with. Who’s asking for us to be overly bold? Is there no happy medium? You seem to think anyone critical of Lambert has a chub on for Hughes, that really isn’t the case. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2018 11:16:13 GMT
So, who appointed Lambert and who have refused to give him the necessary tools to do the job? He obviously doesn't rate Ramadan or Jese and who can blame him? So why weren't they replaced with players he did rate in January? Either way they weren’t so he has to make the best of it. Do you really think we’re better off without at least giving ourselves the option of using them? <iframe width="34.180000000000064" height="5.400000000000006" style="position: absolute; width: 34.18px; height: 5.4px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 0px; top: 0px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_83886104" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="34.180000000000064" height="5.400000000000006" style="position: absolute; width: 34.18px; height: 5.4px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1634px; top: -230px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_52058439" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="34.180000000000064" height="5.400000000000006" style="position: absolute; width: 34.18px; height: 5.4px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 10px; top: -16px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_38801054" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="34.180000000000064" height="5.400000000000006" style="position: absolute; width: 34.18px; height: 5.4px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1634px; top: -16px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_21195925" scrolling="no"></iframe> I've already said, I don't rate either player and I don't think either will make that much difference going forward. Ramadan is a good grafter and I like him. I don't think he offers more than any other player we have going forwards, which is the real problem here isn't it? Our only genuine bona fide creative outlet in the side is Shaqiri and Lambert has him firing, at least, to a level that has only been seen in fleeting appearances in his 4 years here thus far. I find it a shame that the club can't provide more for the manager. |
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Post by mrcoke on Mar 4, 2018 11:16:54 GMT
I don't think he's beyond scrutiny at all, winning one and losing one out of six with this lot is about 6/10 in my view. The previous incumbent (whose true legacy gets shittier with every passing day) left us with a desperate need for fitness and organisation and he's ticked those boxes pretty well and pretty quickly. Of course we need a bit more now, the margin for error has all but gone, Everton, West Ham, Burnley and Palace simply has to produce 9 points and we need a crumb or two from elsewhere or a shit or bust last day game against Swansea. Lambert is what he is. What were people really expecting? He is Pulis without the cap. Coates must be really pleased. It is dire to watch and he is producing exactly what I feared. Meanwhile the bloke at Swansea with a poorer squad is ripping up trees. Blame is again at the boards door. No doubt we will be stuck with him in hoofball mid table, mind numbing Championship football next year You are not wrong. This is not a plug for Pulis, which I was accused of on another thread, but PL's tactics are clearly based on keep a clean sheet and hope to sneak a goal or two hitting on the break and hitting long passes over the MF. It's ugly and won't win anything but it is a good way of avoiding relegation by steadily picking up points. Had we been doing this in December and against Newcastle with a fitter squad we could have avoided defeats and be 3 places higher. The team is clearly working a lot harder now and it suits Allen and Shaq and the defenders. It clearly doesn't suit Choupo working hard in the week as he looks shagged out by Saturday. Diouf is too hyped up and needs to calm down a bit and he would play better. Badou isn't yet lasting 90 mins but he is improving each game. If the players keep working at it, we will not only keep getting clean sheets we will start to sneak some goals and get the odd unexpected win. |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 4, 2018 11:17:15 GMT
What I was hoping for is the Norwich Lambert, who mixed steel with enterprise. I hoped this surprise last chance for him would see him grasp it in a blaze of glory. What we’ve got seems to be the man broken by Villa who’s about half a toblerone away from driving to Dundee in bare feet. You think Hughes and the Pizza boys left us in a position to be overly bold? Mark Hughes has turned out to be an utter car crash of a manager. He should be banged up for the utter shambles he's left us with. Yet he still delivered better results against the same opposition than Lambert has managed...and Lambert hasn't had to use Tymon, Edwards, Wimmer or Fletcher in the process. Why is there a clear unwillingness to observe these simple facts? Lambert hasn't done a good job so far. He's done a terrible job and we have gone backwards even from where the previous useless twat left us. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 4, 2018 11:17:28 GMT
What I was hoping for is the Norwich Lambert, who mixed steel with enterprise. I hoped this surprise last chance for him would see him grasp it in a blaze of glory. What we’ve got seems to be the man broken by Villa who’s about half a toblerone away from driving to Dundee in bare feet. You think Hughes and the Pizza boys left us in a position to be overly bold? Mark Hughes has turned out to be an utter car crash of a manager. He should be banged up for the utter shambles he's left us with. We've shown we can do it since Hughes left though Momo. It just wasn't Lambert in charge when we produced our best display since Hughes has gone. We showed a great balance at Old Trafford. |
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