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Post by StokieNath on Jan 28, 2018 0:04:52 GMT
What's your theory?
Are ghosts imagination? Illusion? From a parallel universe? From the afterlife? From a different dimension? Are they aliens?
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Post by JoeinOz on Jan 28, 2018 1:36:22 GMT
It's a psychosomatic entity to support people through grief and/or immortality.
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Post by bathstoke on Jan 28, 2018 6:51:33 GMT
I've seen some stuff, but never aliens or ghosts. 👽👻
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Post by 3putts on Jan 28, 2018 7:10:25 GMT
all about attention seeking
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Post by maxplonk on Jan 28, 2018 9:49:32 GMT
Some people just don't know when to quit.
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Post by chuffedstokie on Jan 28, 2018 10:06:17 GMT
I'll come back as a ghost and haunt someone. She might not like it but what the hell.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jan 28, 2018 11:29:23 GMT
Thing that amuses me about all this bollocks is that everyone bar none has a smartphone with a camera on, yet no-one ever manages to get anything approaching a convincing shot or clip. It's always grainy or distorted or blurred and therefore open to all kinds of interpretation.
You'd think just statistically that someone somewhere would be able to do a bit better by now! Same applies to aliens.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2018 14:24:08 GMT
Thing that amuses me about all this bollocks is that everyone bar none has a smartphone with a camera on, yet no-one ever manages to get anything approaching a convincing shot or clip. It's always grainy or distorted or blurred and therefore open to all kinds of interpretation. You'd think just statistically that someone somewhere would be able to do a bit better by now! Same applies to aliens. Aliens have smartphones ? 🤔 |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2018 15:40:27 GMT
There might be ghosts but I’m sure there would be a materialist explanation.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2018 15:56:28 GMT
Thing that amuses me about all this bollocks is that everyone bar none has a smartphone with a camera on, yet no-one ever manages to get anything approaching a convincing shot or clip. It's always grainy or distorted or blurred and therefore open to all kinds of interpretation. You'd think just statistically that someone somewhere would be able to do a bit better by now! Same applies to aliens. Aliens have smartphones ? 🤔 ET phone home..... |
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Post by StokieNath on Jan 28, 2018 16:03:11 GMT
There might be ghosts but I’m sure there would be a materialist explanation. logical reasoning is what I'm after. |
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Post by wagsastokie on Jan 28, 2018 19:37:36 GMT
What's your theory? Are ghosts imagination? Illusion? From a parallel universe? From the afterlife? From a different dimension? Are they aliens? Personally I haven't a clue I don't believe in ghosts myself I would have to see one to change my mind But I was sitting in my local at the time and a couple walked In ordered a couple of drinks and sat in the corner a while later they walked up to the bar and said has any of us seen the ghost that had just walked trough Of course me taking the piss as usual ask well what did it look like the woman then went on to describe for said ghost to a bit of mirth And as the conversation continued they had called in on their way to look at Norwich uni they came from Somerset had never been to or knew anyone from Norfolk It wasn't until they had left I realised she had given the same description as the barmaid had mentioned on several occasions when closing up at night It has always made me wonder |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2018 20:31:20 GMT
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Post by Boothen on Jan 28, 2018 21:49:20 GMT
Some could be future time travellers who are either utilising some form of optical cloak or, due to some limitations of the tech., are projecting an avatar of some description.
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Post by chuffedstokie on Jan 28, 2018 21:55:34 GMT
Some could be future time travellers who are either utilising some form of optical cloak or, due to some limitations of the tech., are projecting an avatar of some description. Now there's a thought. 🤔 |
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Post by turtlefox on Jan 29, 2018 0:38:05 GMT
I've seen a ghost. I was about 4yrs old and in my pushchair being taken around a Trust House Forty with my Mum and Dad.
I noticed this Women walking with us and the next thing, she walked through one of the walls not to be seen again. I asked my Mum where did the Women go and she didn't have a clue what I was going on about.
According to my Mum, I wouldn't shut up about this for the whole of the day there. I must have known, even at that age that people just don't walk through walls.
At the end of the day there, my Mum asked one of the guides ( i presume to put her mind at rest ) if there were any signs of ghosts or such in the place because I had kept on about what I saw for all the time we were there.
The guide told her that there had been a dispute between two brothers over who would own the house once the father was dead. The brother who wasn't getting the house, killed the other brother to make sure he got it.
They had a sister who had witnessed this and I'm not sure how she died but that, apparently, was who I saw and she had been seen by others before but not very often.
I don't believe in an afterlife. I think this is all we have got and I don't believe in spirits or angels but I am starting to lean towards how we may be very sophisticated computers and Ghosts, as we see them are just blips when the program has gone wrong for whatever reason.
I'm starting to think that we know everything but we don't know how to access everything.
It would explain things like ESP, past lives, visions in dreams, placebo effects, intuition, wisdom and the basic blocks of why some people learn quicker than others.
It's also something that we would like to do with technology now. To create your own race that was free thinking and thought that it was unique in design and unique within it's place in the universe. A bit like us really.
Great minds don't invent. They discover and move on what is already there. Darwin, Tesla, Einstien, Shakespear didn't invent anything. They discovered new ways of explaining what was already there which is why we could all be a program but a program without pre progammed fate.
I doubt this makes much sense but fuck it. There's my theory of ghosts.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jan 29, 2018 2:20:28 GMT
@froggyd Some interesting posts you made there on the other Ghost thread.
When I was younger I remember going over to a friends house to stay the night as he was home alone. It was a really old house where rangers used to stay at as there is a massive forest right outside.
We were in his room when a picture frame just fell off the wall. It was hanging on a solid nail so it was weird how it just fell off, with quite a serious bang as well.
As we were looking at the wall his disc tray on his xbox randomly opened and that's when we were creeped out.
About 20 minutes after all this, we were downstairs and he was letting the dog outside in the garden. We checked on him after about a minute and we noticed the gate to his house was wide open.
I went into the lounge and told him and he said he already checked out the back and saw the gate open as well. We both went back to the front of the house and now the gate was closed shut!
Couldn't believe it because the gate is completely locked shut and it takes a human to open it.
Also bizzare how quick it was open and closed. The dog was found 20 minutes later down the road near a canal. One of the strangest moments of my life with things happening that were unexplainable...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2018 11:41:48 GMT
My theory is Demi Moore would not get a job at Wedgewoods...
But then again...Maybe she would...Esp dressed like that...
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jan 29, 2018 15:59:59 GMT
That's a great thread, some very good stories from froggy |
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Post by lawrieleslie on Jan 29, 2018 17:14:57 GMT
One explanation is the sound and visual recording properties of certain natural materials that contain quartz such as granite. The theory is that this records events and sounds from time gone by and, under certain atmospheric conditions, play these recordings back. This explains many sightings such as walking through walls that were not in existence when the event happened and sightings of half a person ostensibly walking without legs. It also explains the repetition of these sightings. An example is the famous sighting of the Roman legions on the M6.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2018 19:02:41 GMT
That's a great thread, some very good stories from froggy It was totally weird, i know if someone had told me what I've experienced I'd be dubious, but experiencing it first hand and having no explanations for it proper spooked me. |
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Post by shangamuzo on Jan 29, 2018 21:37:19 GMT
One explanation is the sound and visual recording properties of certain natural materials that contain quartz such as granite. The theory is that this records events and sounds from time gone by and, under certain atmospheric conditions, play these recordings back. This explains many sightings such as walking through walls that were not in existence when the event happened and sightings of half a person ostensibly walking without legs. It also explains the repetition of these sightings. An example is the famous sighting of the Roman legions on the M6. That's a plausible but partial explanation. A friend of mine stayed a few nights in an old guest house in the Cotswolds a few years back. Pitch black in the middle of the night, he woke up in his bed and saw a silvery figure of a man bending down sideways looking at him. It then stood up straight, turned and walked through the wall. In other words it knew he was there as opposed to a recording played back which wouldn't know. It shit him up at the time and now he's a believer. So am I. |
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Jan 29, 2018 22:15:21 GMT
One explanation is the sound and visual recording properties of certain natural materials that contain quartz such as granite. The theory is that this records events and sounds from time gone by and, under certain atmospheric conditions, play these recordings back. This explains many sightings such as walking through walls that were not in existence when the event happened and sightings of half a person ostensibly walking without legs. It also explains the repetition of these sightings. An example is the famous sighting of the Roman legions on the M6. That's a plausible but partial explanation. A friend of mine stayed a few nights in an old guest house in the Cotswolds a few years back. Pitch black in the middle of the night, he woke up in his bed and saw a silvery figure of a man bending down sideways looking at him. It then stood up straight, turned and walked through the wall. In other words it knew he was there as opposed to a recording played back which wouldn't know. It shit him up at the time and now he's a believer. So am I. I reckon the hooman imagination is far more vivid during the wee small dark witching hours and that can account for a lot of this uncorroborated wooohooo stuff. Big brain mind tricks. Seems that organic matter gets recycled in the ashes to ashes and dust to.. but there's memories, thoughts and soul too and we dunner really know much about what happens to that intangible stuff in the hereafter. As the idea of multiverses and other dimension theories seem to be gaining more acceptance amongst mainstream sciences maybe it offers an opportunity for the psychics to gain a 'credible' foothold too. Perhaps a few who've passed to another dimension can and do break through. Not sure mesen but been impressed with much of what comes out from Ouija dabblings I've indulged in. Never seen a ghost though. |
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jan 29, 2018 22:36:48 GMT
Ouija board stuff is thought of as being unconscious movement by the users, its called ideomotor movement.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Jan 29, 2018 22:50:33 GMT
Ouija board stuff is thought of as being unconscious movement by the users, its called ideomotor movement. Intriguing stuff. Seen it reduce folk to tears. Whether it's keyed into their inner psyche or channelled something 'other' I'm not sure. Still grasp the opportunity to find out some more whenever the opportunity arises. A bit more than just a parlour game imo. Have you? |
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jan 29, 2018 23:07:55 GMT
Ouija board stuff is thought of as being unconscious movement by the users, its called ideomotor movement. Intriguing stuff. Seen it reduce folk to tears. Whether it's keyed into their inner psyche or channelled something 'other' I'm not sure. Still grasp the opportunity to find out some more whenever the opportunity arises. A bit more than just a parlour game imo. Have you? No, never been anywhere where someone had one. Heard a few tales of people getting spooked by them though. My feeling is generally that the human brain is so good at finding patterns and searching for meaning that it will make up stuff just to explain apparently inexplicable stuff at the time. The Solway spaceman being a great example. That's not to discredit froggys experiences which do sound very odd. |
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Post by shangamuzo on Jan 29, 2018 23:21:12 GMT
That's a plausible but partial explanation. A friend of mine stayed a few nights in an old guest house in the Cotswolds a few years back. Pitch black in the middle of the night, he woke up in his bed and saw a silvery figure of a man bending down sideways looking at him. It then stood up straight, turned and walked through the wall. In other words it knew he was there as opposed to a recording played back which wouldn't know. It shit him up at the time and now he's a believer. So am I. I reckon the hooman imagination is far more vivid during the wee small dark witching hours and that can account for a lot of this uncorroborated wooohooo stuff. Big brain mind tricks. Seems that organic matter gets recycled in the ashes to ashes and dust to.. but there's memories, thoughts and soul too and we dunner really know much about what happens to that intangible stuff in the hereafter. As the idea of multiverses and other dimension theories seem to be gaining more acceptance amongst mainstream sciences maybe it offers an opportunity for the psychics to gain a 'credible' foothold too. Perhaps a few who've passed to another dimension can and do break through. Not sure mesen but been impressed with much of what comes out from Ouija dabblings I've indulged in. Never seen a ghost though. It was never suggested to him beforehand that the place was haunted. Or else he'd probably have had it in mind when he retired to bed. He told the landlord next morning about it and the landlord said, oh that's 'Bill', lots of guests have seen him from time to time but he's harmless. It doesn't bother some people who have seen ghosts but to be honest, I think I'd have shit a brick! |
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Jan 29, 2018 23:32:28 GMT
Intriguing stuff. Seen it reduce folk to tears. Whether it's keyed into their inner psyche or channelled something 'other' I'm not sure. Still grasp the opportunity to find out some more whenever the opportunity arises. A bit more than just a parlour game imo. Have you? No, never been anywhere where someone had one. Heard a few tales of people getting spooked by them though. My feeling is generally that the human brain is so good at finding patterns and searching for meaning that it will make up stuff just to explain apparently inexplicable stuff at the time. The Solway spaceman being a great example. That's not to discredit froggys experiences which do sound very odd. I'll google Solway Spaceman when I get whom. Not heard about that. Cheers. |
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Jan 29, 2018 23:38:20 GMT
I reckon the hooman imagination is far more vivid during the wee small dark witching hours and that can account for a lot of this uncorroborated wooohooo stuff. Big brain mind tricks. Seems that organic matter gets recycled in the ashes to ashes and dust to.. but there's memories, thoughts and soul too and we dunner really know much about what happens to that intangible stuff in the hereafter. As the idea of multiverses and other dimension theories seem to be gaining more acceptance amongst mainstream sciences maybe it offers an opportunity for the psychics to gain a 'credible' foothold too. Perhaps a few who've passed to another dimension can and do break through. Not sure mesen but been impressed with much of what comes out from Ouija dabblings I've indulged in. Never seen a ghost though. It was never suggested to him beforehand that the place was haunted. Or else he'd probably have had it in mind when he retired to bed. He told the landlord next morning about it and the landlord said, oh that's 'Bill', lots of guests have seen him from time to time but he's harmless. It doesn't bother some people who have seen ghosts but to be honest, I think I'd have shit a brick! Old Inn in the Cotswolds and not a prior thought of hauntings? Nah not having that kind of non contextual naievity at all. |
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Post by starkiller on Jan 30, 2018 2:10:58 GMT
The hypnogogic state.
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