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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2018 20:12:05 GMT
Good job Liverpool never trusted Fowler or Owen and the same with Rooney at Everton. Your thoughts following his cameo today? SGS Raw, and inexperienced, but exactly what I expected. Should have done better with the Shaq chance, but neat nutmeg to create an opportunity. Still showed more than Berahino, so, for me, still the right choice.
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Post by stayingupfor GermanStokie on Feb 24, 2018 20:18:29 GMT
Taking the importance of today’s result out of the equation (I would have snapped your hand off for a draw today) I thought considering his age, his return from a minor injury and his lack of any experience.... he did quite well.
Leicester‘s back line are quite pacy and bloody monsters (I kept saying, bloody hell, McGuire is a beast) so bearing in mind the above... Campbell will learn so so much from this and will get better and better... he has a future at this level... not the Roy of the rovers start but quicker than many will expect.
Same again next week....
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Post by rosco on Feb 24, 2018 20:18:50 GMT
Today will only do him good - he's clearly not PL standard yet but that's to be expected. Hopefully he'll continue to get chances.
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Post by mattface on Feb 24, 2018 20:30:04 GMT
Problem with all of this is: 1) Diouf is not the answer, too clumsy and not clinical enough 2) Berahino is not the answer (no more be said) 3) Crouch is too old, not the answer 4) Campbell is too inexperienced, so isn't the answer... yet. 5) Jese i wouldn't class as a striker. Apart from buying a new striker.... And shaqiri scoring another wonder goal... WHERE THE FUCK IS THE NEXT GOAL COMING FROM? Shaq's left boot
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Post by numpty40 on Feb 24, 2018 20:34:25 GMT
A baptism of fire, he will have learned from that today and will be all of the stronger for it. He's had experience of the pace of the premier league, invaluable.
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Post by werrington on Feb 24, 2018 20:36:19 GMT
Doesn't being overawed by the situation kind of show he wasn't ready? I agree He isn't ready. He showed that today. To come on before putting on Jese is baffling. Jese would have been on the end of that shaq cross. Campbell just stood and watched it go by SGS Pmsl.....ifs buts and maybes eh But then again you don’t surprise me with the bollocks you spout SGS
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Post by adamsson on Feb 24, 2018 20:38:57 GMT
Looked like he had never played and hardly trained with the players around him, the lack of communication was obvious, but he caused Leicester as many problems as Diouf did.
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Post by SneydGreenStokie on Feb 24, 2018 20:39:40 GMT
I agree He isn't ready. He showed that today. To come on before putting on Jese is baffling. Jese would have been on the end of that shaq cross. Campbell just stood and watched it go by SGS Pmsl.....ifs buts and maybes eh But then again you don’t surprise me with the bollocks you spout SGS You clearly want to be me by signing off as me. I dont blame you brother Thanks for your feedback SGS
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 24, 2018 20:44:41 GMT
Doesn't being overawed by the situation kind of show he wasn't ready? I think on his second and third appearance that will dissipate. I hope so. And I hope we play with more attackers around him.
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Post by Birchesheadpotter on Feb 24, 2018 20:53:03 GMT
I’ve read the thread, and as you well know, the only abuse in here is you tagging people “cunts” for pointing out the disappointingly obvious. You think you’re brilliant I know, but your humorously astonishing level of hypocrisy is about the only value you add to this discussion. Not that you care though I’m sure RAF; ignorance truly is bliss.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Feb 24, 2018 20:56:11 GMT
It was just the wrong game for him and didn't surprise me when Lambert put him on as he is very dodgy with subs.
You put Tyrese on when you've got nothing to lose not when you're protecting a lead.
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Post by thegift on Feb 24, 2018 21:18:41 GMT
Really surprised with this interview; he comes across as introvert, shy and level headed. Based upon that I'd look to give him more games because he's more likely to be a slow burner. If he can get another 150 minutes before the end of the season then that will put him in a good place for the future. Harsh or not... You can't even fucking here him asking questions unless the volume level goes to 100. Just do it properly.
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Post by march4 on Feb 24, 2018 21:20:03 GMT
The lad already looks better than Berahino.
Obviously he does not have the upper body strength of a more seasoned centre back, but he made intelligent runs and should be given plenty of game time before the end of the season.
Next year his goals could fire us back to the Prem.
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Post by mattface on Feb 24, 2018 21:22:44 GMT
You could tell he was a bit overawed today. That doesn't mean he's shit though, or not ready. It's way too early to judge. Whilst none of the other strikers are offering anything, he has to be in consideration. Doesn't being overawed by the situation kind of show he wasn't ready? Didn't look overawed to me. Learning curve against strong centre backs, but his movement and positional play was great
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Post by spitthedog on Feb 24, 2018 21:25:47 GMT
It was just the wrong game for him and didn't surprise me when Lambert put him on as he is very dodgy with subs. You put Tyrese on when you've got nothing to lose not when you're protecting a lead. If PL had not brought him on, this message board would be going mental tonight. At least it has subdued some of the ridiculous expectations of him that we have been treated to over the last week or so.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 24, 2018 21:27:19 GMT
Doesn't being overawed by the situation kind of show he wasn't ready? Didn't look overawed to me. Learning curve against strong centre backs, but his movement and positional play was great I just didn't see that sorry. He should have been on the end Shaq's ball. And there was nothing else bar the ball bouncing off his shin. He looked like a lost sheep who didn't quite know what to do. But that's what I expected. It's up to him now to learn from that and get up to speed.
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Post by RAF on Feb 24, 2018 21:59:32 GMT
I’ve read the thread, and as you well know, the only abuse in here is you tagging people “cunts” for pointing out the disappointingly obvious. You think you’re brilliant I know, but your humorously astonishing level of hypocrisy is about the only value you add to this discussion. Not that you care though I’m sure RAF; ignorance truly is bliss. If you think by labelling someone as ' utter utter shit' on their debut at 17 years old is the way to go then that is up to you, it's certainly not being disappointedly constructive. I get it though, I've hit a nerve, attack is the best form of defence. H
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Post by Birchesheadpotter on Feb 24, 2018 23:26:40 GMT
I’ve read the thread, and as you well know, the only abuse in here is you tagging people “cunts” for pointing out the disappointingly obvious. You think you’re brilliant I know, but your humorously astonishing level of hypocrisy is about the only value you add to this discussion. Not that you care though I’m sure RAF; ignorance truly is bliss. If you think by labelling someone as ' utter utter shit' on their debut at 17 years old is the way to go then that is up to you, it's certainly not being disappointedly constructive. I get it though, I've hit a nerve, attack is the best form of defence. H His performance today was, in my opinion, utter shit. Perhaps verbalising it astonishingly poor would conform to critical etiquette a little better, but it all levels out the same. Not a single word of that though is abusive or demeaning to Tyrese Campbell as a person, and frankly I’d rather hear honesty about that performance in his position, I would let it better me as a person and player. Perhaps if you spent a little more time assessing him as a player and prospect yourself, and a little less time assessing the content of everyone else’s views, you’d know how old he fucking is.
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Post by hanibal7 on Feb 25, 2018 4:25:08 GMT
If you think by labelling someone as ' utter utter shit' on their debut at 17 years old is the way to go then that is up to you, it's certainly not being disappointedly constructive. I get it though, I've hit a nerve, attack is the best form of defence. H His performance today was, in my opinion, utter shit. Perhaps verbalising it astonishingly poor would conform to critical etiquette a little better, but it all levels out the same. Not a single word of that though is abusive or demeaning to Tyrese Campbell as a person, and frankly I’d rather hear honesty about that performance in his position, I would let it better me as a person and player. Perhaps if you spent a little more time assessing him as a player and prospect yourself, and a little less time assessing the content of everyone else’s views, you’d know how old he fucking is. You are right, i here, if he is good enough he is old enough, so saying he was shit is no different to saying Adam was shit. Lambert couldnt win, not play him and he hates kiddies, play him and he has been hung out to dry, typical of some numbnuts on here. Someone mentioned fowler and owen, they were playing in a far better side than stoke, on their cameos.Next thing will be dont bring shawcross back he is shit lol lol, get rid of adam, a red card waiting to happen, when was the last time he got sent off. Get rid of butland, he made a mistake, only worth 6 million pesos now. The bile continues, hughes got it, he has gone, who next. Lambert has dont what he needed to do, get a tighter defense, work in progress, and a minimum of two point v bright would have been a big difference, 2 more against leicester, he would have been god, like hughes was for 3 seasons.
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Post by hanibal7 on Feb 25, 2018 4:30:30 GMT
I would have him training with the first team all week, get him involved and get him comfortable with the players and then give him another chance off the bench next week. He’s clearly not the finished article, and he looked a bit intimidated by Morgan, but I’m not going to write him off after a 20 minute debut against a very good side away from home. very sensible post, then if he is shit again, we can all crucify the manager hehehehehhehehe, only joking, a bit.
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Post by nutterpotter on Feb 25, 2018 7:50:11 GMT
Think people underestimate the massive gulf between the U23s and First Team.
He's had a taste of the Premier League now and wil know that he's got to improve many aspects of his game if he is to make it as a Premier League footballer.
Seems like a level-headed lad and I'm sure he'll be getting some great advice from his dad.
He'll be fine.
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Post by RAF on Feb 25, 2018 9:27:31 GMT
If you think by labelling someone as ' utter utter shit' on their debut at 17 years old is the way to go then that is up to you, it's certainly not being disappointedly constructive. I get it though, I've hit a nerve, attack is the best form of defence. H His performance today was, in my opinion, utter shit. Perhaps verbalising it astonishingly poor would conform to critical etiquette a little better, but it all levels out the same. Not a single word of that though is abusive or demeaning to Tyrese Campbell as a person, and frankly I’d rather hear honesty about that performance in his position, I would let it better me as a person and player. Perhaps if you spent a little more time assessing him as a player and prospect yourself, and a little less time assessing the content of everyone else’s views, you’d know how old he fucking is. I think he's a great prospect and the fact that I have missed that he has had a birthday, he was 17 last time I went to watch him play, you'll have to forgive me I don't know all the players birthdays. Not that that should have any bearing about what we are talking about. If you want to destroy the lad on here for what was quite clearly nerves and getting used to the intensity then that is obviously your right as it is mine to think it is a cuntish thing to do and say. H
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Post by Birchesheadpotter on Feb 25, 2018 10:38:48 GMT
His performance today was, in my opinion, utter shit. Perhaps verbalising it astonishingly poor would conform to critical etiquette a little better, but it all levels out the same. Not a single word of that though is abusive or demeaning to Tyrese Campbell as a person, and frankly I’d rather hear honesty about that performance in his position, I would let it better me as a person and player. Perhaps if you spent a little more time assessing him as a player and prospect yourself, and a little less time assessing the content of everyone else’s views, you’d know how old he fucking is. I think he's a great prospect and the fact that I have missed that he has had a birthday, he was 17 last time I went to watch him play, you'll have to forgive me I don't know all the players birthdays. Not that that should have any bearing about what we are talking about. If you want to destroy the lad on here for what was quite clearly nerves and getting used to the intensity then that is obviously your right as it is mine to think it is a cuntish thing to do and say. H Look, we all want Tyrese Campbell to succeed; the better he does individually in Red & White, the better we do as a club. It’s that simple. If you think that people calling a shit performance shit on a message board dedicated to discussing such things is “abusive, destroying and cuntish” then that is your prerogative. I disagree. I also think calling people cunts for being honest about how he played, indiscriminate of his age, is preciousness personified. A little sad actually RAF; it encompasses everything you apparently dislike about others. Here’s hoping you’re right in that it was just nerves, and he shows us a lot more next time he’s called upon.
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Post by RAF on Feb 25, 2018 12:12:13 GMT
I think he's a great prospect and the fact that I have missed that he has had a birthday, he was 17 last time I went to watch him play, you'll have to forgive me I don't know all the players birthdays. Not that that should have any bearing about what we are talking about. If you want to destroy the lad on here for what was quite clearly nerves and getting used to the intensity then that is obviously your right as it is mine to think it is a cuntish thing to do and say. H Look, we all want Tyrese Campbell to succeed; the better he does individually in Red & White, the better we do as a club. It’s that simple. If you think that people calling a shit performance shit on a message board dedicated to discussing such things is “abusive, destroying and cuntish” then that is your prerogative. I disagree. I also think calling people cunts for being honest about how he played, indiscriminate of his age, is preciousness personified. A little sad actually RAF; it encompasses everything you apparently dislike about others. Here’s hoping you’re right in that it was just nerves, and he shows us a lot more next time he’s called upon. Well we can only hope as our Striking options at the moment are very few and far between, I'm hopeful he will be ths first of the new age of academy players that steps up in earnest. I'm not precious, I'd just like to see him get a few senior games under his belt before we decide he's utter shit. We have very little to look forward to at the moment, seeing him make the transition successfully would be a great positive from a poor season. H
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Post by Birchesheadpotter on Feb 25, 2018 13:02:50 GMT
Look, we all want Tyrese Campbell to succeed; the better he does individually in Red & White, the better we do as a club. It’s that simple. If you think that people calling a shit performance shit on a message board dedicated to discussing such things is “abusive, destroying and cuntish” then that is your prerogative. I disagree. I also think calling people cunts for being honest about how he played, indiscriminate of his age, is preciousness personified. A little sad actually RAF; it encompasses everything you apparently dislike about others. Here’s hoping you’re right in that it was just nerves, and he shows us a lot more next time he’s called upon. Well we can only hope as our Striking options at the moment are very few and far between, I'm hopeful he will be ths first of the new age of academy players that steps up in earnest. I'm not precious, I'd just like to see him get a few senior games under his belt before we decide he's utter shit. We have very little to look forward to at the moment, seeing him make the transition successfully would be a great positive from a poor season. H I agree that he should be given more opportunity to prove himself before we decide the likelyhood of his success at this level. My point is, as you well know, nobody on this thread has called him a shit football player, nor claimed that he definitely will not make it given time. For me to describe that performance as anything other than poor though would be disingenuous on my part, and in no way helpful. ‘Utter shit’ of course was my term of choice, just as it would have (and has) been if it were Berahino or Crouch.
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Post by gingerninja on Feb 27, 2018 16:35:24 GMT
It's fair to say the intensity & pace at premier league is vastly quicker than at U23 level, but surely the ability to trap a football is the same at both levels?. A lot of the time on Saturday he even that beyond him.
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Post by thegift on Feb 27, 2018 16:38:50 GMT
It's fair to say the intensity & pace at premier league is vastly quicker than at U23 level, but surely the ability to trap a football is the same at both levels?. A lot of the time on Saturday he even that beyond him. He probably had some nerves as well mate, cut him some slack.
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Post by gingerninja on Feb 27, 2018 16:44:50 GMT
Of course I understand that and I am sure that was a contributory factor, but he really did look out of his depth..I am really pissed off with Berahino and his antics, all of his own making as well. He owes the club big time yet seemingly is going to make no meaningful contribution to our season, just at the time when we desperately need a striker to step up to the plate..
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Post by thegift on Feb 27, 2018 16:49:12 GMT
Of course I understand that and I am sure that was a contributory factor, but he really did look out of his depth..I am really pissed off with Berahino and his antics, all of his own making as well. He owes the club big time yet seemingly is going to make no meaningful contribution to our season, just at the time when we desperately need a striker to step up to the plate.. You've seen Tyrese for 20 minutes and written him off. What more has berahino done than tyrese? berahino cost £12 + and he is on 80K a week Tyrese cost fuck all and is on probably 5 or 10K Just take a step back and think about it logically.
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Post by gingerninja on Feb 27, 2018 16:57:11 GMT
I am not saying I am writing him off at all, he may well be a gem, just that it wasn't the best debut, with little to be excited about...of course he will massively improve from the experience..
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