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Post by petershiltonsmini on Feb 24, 2018 17:24:16 GMT
What are you talking about??? My post was about RAF who was using horrible language because his opinion is the only one worth reading. I felt the Lad did not look ready and felt it was most likely nerves and will give him every chance as a fan Try reading through the whole post before you make ill-informed responses I did read you post ....You said he didn’t look ready but perhaps I misread it On today's display my opinion is he is not quite ready Would you start with him up front? We are really desperate for a striker but do you think he is the answer?
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Post by jimigoodwinsbeard on Feb 24, 2018 17:27:45 GMT
He shouldn't have been brought on whilst we were winning, he's a wildcard and a last roll of the dice when we need a goal so no point blaming the player. Lambert's subs are extremely worrying. Bringing Adam on left me shaking my head in disbelief.......think its some sort of hidden pact between Adam, Fletcher and Lambert that at least one Scottish player has to make it onto the pitch no matter what.....????
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Post by werrington on Feb 24, 2018 17:28:12 GMT
I did read you post ....You said he didn’t look ready but perhaps I misread it On today's display my opinion is he is not quite ready Would you start with him up front? We are really desperate for a striker but do you think he is the answer? We are at desperation time ....he’s no worse than what we have and to me it’s him or Diouf if we are to get out of this mess I’ve seen enough today up front with the pressing and harrying to say it’s now one of those two
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Post by davejohnno1 on Feb 24, 2018 17:28:13 GMT
My 10 year old has just come home from the Burnley game and the first thing he's said is "campbell's movement was rubbish and predictable wasn't it"? The 2nd thing he said is "did you see Shaqiri go mad at him. The bench had to calm him down. He did a me" after I told him off for losing his temper at his teammates in training this week So there you have it. Campbell's movement was rubbish and predictable.
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Post by RAF on Feb 24, 2018 17:28:29 GMT
What a load of bollocks mate He looked no worse than any other forward whose played for us this season ....the positions he ran into without being found and the closing down of their defenders was exactly what we need Don’t tell me ...you’d sooner have Crouch yeah ? RAF my post was about your attitude that you think referring to posters as cunts is acceptable It's not The lad is not ready from his display but I really want him to succeed and be a legend for Stoke My attitude is that if you think it's ok to refer to one of our players as 'shit' who has just had their first game then you are a cunt. I stand by that. If one person thinks that in some way makes me arrogant, then I shall sleep ok tonight. H
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Post by petershiltonsmini on Feb 24, 2018 17:31:13 GMT
RAF my post was about your attitude that you think referring to posters as cunts is acceptable It's not The lad is not ready from his display but I really want him to succeed and be a legend for Stoke My attitude is that if you think it's ok to refer to one of our players as 'shit' who has just had their first game then you are a cunt. I stand by that. If one person thinks that in some way makes me arrogant, then I shall sleep ok tonight. H Ok let's agree to disagree And I do agree that negative terms like shit are not acceptable after one cameo However he is a long way from the finished article
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 24, 2018 17:34:22 GMT
Wouldn't be too critical of him. It was obviously a massive step up, and it looked like the occasion got to him. He only turned 18 over Christmas. But it was still worth the punt, and we didn't have any alternative with Crouch out and Berahino a dead loss. I thought Berahino was ok vs Brighton and he should have been on the bench with Campbell today.
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Post by numpty40 on Feb 24, 2018 17:36:05 GMT
It's a big step from the U23's to the Premier league. Campbell can bully defenders at U23 level because of his physique for his age, he wasn't going to bully Wes Morgan. However he will have learned greatly from today and that can only be good for the lad and the club.
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Post by starkiller on Feb 24, 2018 17:37:11 GMT
Fitness should not be an issue for an 18 year old. Looked lumbering.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Feb 24, 2018 17:37:16 GMT
Looked completely out of his depth - simply not ready.
Genuinely hope he comes good - but on that performance should not be anywhere near the first team.
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Post by werrington on Feb 24, 2018 17:39:08 GMT
Looked completely out of his depth - simply not ready. Genuinely hope he comes good - but on that performance should not be anywhere near the first team. So considering NOTHING has worked up front this season you just give up on him then Oh well back to Crouch and off to Brentford we go then
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 24, 2018 17:42:24 GMT
Looked completely out of his depth - simply not ready. Genuinely hope he comes good - but on that performance should not be anywhere near the first team. So considering NOTHING has worked up front this season you just give up on him then Oh well back to Crouch and off to Brentford we go then No one is saying that are they? He looked like a lamb lost and that's completely fair because he's a finisher and nothing else. Where I agree with RAF though is the manager and board need lambasting for this situation. It was a good experience for him but it was about what I expected having watched him for our youth sides.
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Post by RAF on Feb 24, 2018 17:45:08 GMT
My attitude is that if you think it's ok to refer to one of our players as 'shit' who has just had their first game then you are a cunt. I stand by that. If one person thinks that in some way makes me arrogant, then I shall sleep ok tonight. H Ok let's agree to disagree And I do agree that negative terms like shit are not acceptable after one cameo However he is a long way from the finished article Mate I'm 100% with you where being anywhere near the finished article is concerned. But where do we start? It's a fucking quandary. You either start them too early or leave it too late. It is not helpful nor sensible to be describing a 17 year old lads first start as 'shit'. I'll discuss all day long his shortfalls but some of the fuckwitted kneejerk horsewank on here about him is ridiculous. We don't have to agree to disagree we can actually agree. H
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Post by StatesideStokie on Feb 24, 2018 17:46:09 GMT
I would have him training with the first team all week, get him involved and get him comfortable with the players and then give him another chance off the bench next week. He’s clearly not the finished article, and he looked a bit intimidated by Morgan, but I’m not going to write him off after a 20 minute debut against a very good side away from home.
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Post by tuum on Feb 24, 2018 17:46:31 GMT
He was alright for a first game. Was not given much of a chance. Maybe should have gambled on the Shaqiri cross but on another day it would have been pulled back behind him. Bringing on Johnson and Adam were terrible decisions by Mr Lambert. They might have cost us the game more than anything that Campbell did. Cut the young lad some slack the senior pros did not help him much! I don't blame him for that chance..it was 6 and two threes. The pass was a yard and a half in front. He was a yard and a half behind. Net result 3 yds behind the ball. As mentioned before if the ball had been pulled back then it could have been a different story. However, it looked to me like he found the pace way too much for him. I found this surprising. I would have thought a young lad could show some energy for 30mins.I make no long term judgment but he definitely did not add anything meaningful to our attacking threat today.
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Post by nonameface on Feb 24, 2018 17:46:56 GMT
Really surprised with this interview; he comes across as introvert, shy and level headed. Based upon that I'd look to give him more games because he's more likely to be a slow burner. If he can get another 150 minutes before the end of the season then that will put him in a good place for the future.
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Post by tuum on Feb 24, 2018 17:50:25 GMT
He shouldn't have been brought on whilst we were winning, he's a wildcard and a last roll of the dice when we need a goal so no point blaming the player. Lambert's subs are extremely worrying. Bringing Adam on left me shaking my head in disbelief.......think its some sort of hidden pact between Adam, Fletcher and Lambert that at least one Scottish player has to make it onto the pitch no matter what.....???? Trying to understand the thinking. I thought it was for Adam to ping balls over the top for Campbell to run onto. Didn't happen, and Charlie's days at Stoke must surely be over. His last few appearances have been poor.
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Post by Miles Offside on Feb 24, 2018 17:56:23 GMT
We're in that situation where we're desperate for something better up front.
Campbell might well be it in time, but from that brief appearance today he doesn't look ready to me yet.
Credit to Lambert for giving the lad a chance. It's definitely worth keeping him with the first team squad though.
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Post by StatesideStokie on Feb 24, 2018 17:56:53 GMT
He was alright for a first game. Was not given much of a chance. Maybe should have gambled on the Shaqiri cross but on another day it would have been pulled back behind him. Bringing on Johnson and Adam were terrible decisions by Mr Lambert. They might have cost us the game more than anything that Campbell did. Cut the young lad some slack the senior pros did not help him much! I don't blame him for that chance..it was 6 and two threes. The pass was a yard and a half in front. He was a yard and a half behind. Net result 3 yds behind the ball. As mentioned before if the ball had been pulled back then it could have been a different story. However, it looked to me like he found the pace way too much for him. I found this surprising. I would have thought a young lad could show some energy for 30mins.I make no long term judgment but he definitely did not add anything meaningful to our attacking threat today. As an experienced senior player, I thought Shaq could have handled that better. Giving the kid the “death stare” and then moaning about him is just fucking stupid. How about holding your hand up and giving him a quick “my bad” for what was a poor ball, and then giving the kid a bit of encouragement and letting him know you’ll find him with the next one? It’s that type of leadership that’s gone missing this season. I love Shaq, but like others in the side, he can be frustratingly self involved.
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Post by WhyDelilah on Feb 24, 2018 17:58:47 GMT
You could tell he was a bit overawed today. That doesn't mean he's shit though, or not ready. It's way too early to judge.
Whilst none of the other strikers are offering anything, he has to be in consideration.
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Post by gingerninja on Feb 24, 2018 18:32:42 GMT
Lambert simply has to stick with him now otherwise if he were to be jettisoned it could shatter his confidence long term..To write him off after 20 mins is pure folly.
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Post by nutterpotter on Feb 24, 2018 19:25:11 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 24, 2018 19:29:33 GMT
You could tell he was a bit overawed today. That doesn't mean he's shit though, or not ready. It's way too early to judge. Whilst none of the other strikers are offering anything, he has to be in consideration. Doesn't being overawed by the situation kind of show he wasn't ready?
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Post by WhyDelilah on Feb 24, 2018 19:32:02 GMT
You could tell he was a bit overawed today. That doesn't mean he's shit though, or not ready. It's way too early to judge. Whilst none of the other strikers are offering anything, he has to be in consideration. Doesn't being overawed by the situation kind of show he wasn't ready? I think on his second and third appearance that will dissipate.
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Post by thegift on Feb 24, 2018 19:33:02 GMT
Problem with all of this is:
1) Diouf is not the answer, too clumsy and not clinical enough 2) Berahino is not the answer (no more be said) 3) Crouch is too old, not the answer 4) Campbell is too inexperienced, so isn't the answer... yet. 5) Jese i wouldn't class as a striker.
Apart from buying a new striker.... And shaqiri scoring another wonder goal...
WHERE THE FUCK IS THE NEXT GOAL COMING FROM?
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Post by borat on Feb 24, 2018 19:38:23 GMT
The truth is none of our strikers are the answer they are all average or worse, if people can't see how poor Campbell was on his cameo then it's blatant blind faith.
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Post by cheadlestokie on Feb 24, 2018 19:49:44 GMT
Some on here have clearly missed their vocation. They see a player for the first time for about 20 minutes and have got his career path mapped out as not being good enough and should never be seen again. They clearly should be scouting for the world champions with such insightful knowledge.
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Post by SneydGreenStokie on Feb 24, 2018 19:51:01 GMT
You could tell he was a bit overawed today. That doesn't mean he's shit though, or not ready. It's way too early to judge. Whilst none of the other strikers are offering anything, he has to be in consideration. Doesn't being overawed by the situation kind of show he wasn't ready? I agree He isn't ready. He showed that today. To come on before putting on Jese is baffling. Jese would have been on the end of that shaq cross. Campbell just stood and watched it go by SGS
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Post by vahl on Feb 24, 2018 19:55:15 GMT
Point proven today from Lambert really. I think he has put him in today with the best intentions but maybe with a little hidden message to those who wanted him in straight away.
Rabbit in headlights, good experience and hopefully we see more of him next season.
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Post by SneydGreenStokie on Feb 24, 2018 19:55:43 GMT
My God Have people heard themselves. Campbell should not be near the first team. He plays for the under 23's. It is not even league 1 standard. We really cannot be this desperate SGS Good job Liverpool never trusted Fowler or Owen and the same with Rooney at Everton. Your thoughts following his cameo today? SGS
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