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Post by suck_the_mop. on Dec 16, 2017 21:57:47 GMT
Please god no, this would just about finish me off:-( on saying that we've got to get rid of this fuckwit first when is it EVER going to happen..
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Post by thepottypotter on Dec 16, 2017 22:13:42 GMT
Would love to see him back, after taking us to the Prem, Europe & a Cup Final...Legend! If he can do that then keeping us up is easy.. Please don't Groan, we need Tone TEST Enjoy his last two seasons did you? They were ok. I thought he could have improved our football with better signings over time. I loved the fact that Arsenal feared and hated us. We had identity and a fighting spirit. Better football and quality and improvement would have been great but I most fear going back to where we started when I kid - League One (Second Division then) I saw an FA cup final, the Europa League and never once thought relegation was a realistic prospect under Pulis. Now I would be delighted just with avoiding relegation. It shows how bad it has got under MH - far worse than the last 2 seasons of Pulis. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2017 22:17:58 GMT
Pulis was asked how he felt about our result today and showed his sympathy for Hughes
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 16, 2017 22:23:58 GMT
Enjoy his last two seasons did you? They were ok. I thought he could have improved our football with better signings over time. I loved the fact that Arsenal feared and hated us. We had identity and a fighting spirit. Better football and quality and improvement would have been great but I most fear going back to where we started when I kid - League One (Second Division then) I saw an FA cup final, the Europa League and never once thought relegation was a realistic prospect under Pulis. Now I would be delighted just with avoiding relegation. It shows how bad it has got under MH - far worse than the last 2 seasons of Pulis. Pulis won 22% of his league games after new year’s day of this fourth prem season and we finished 91st and 92nd in the pyramid for goals scored. In this last season we won three games after Boxing Day. That’ll do for you will it? This current season is our worst in the premier but you have low standards if you thought the fun-free, goal-free grind of late Pulis was alright. |
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Post by scfc75 on Dec 16, 2017 22:30:15 GMT
Enjoy his last two seasons did you? They were ok. I thought he could have improved our football with better signings over time. I loved the fact that Arsenal feared and hated us. We had identity and a fighting spirit. Better football and quality and improvement would have been great but I most fear going back to where we started when I kid - League One (Second Division then) I saw an FA cup final, the Europa League and never once thought relegation was a realistic prospect under Pulis. Now I would be delighted just with avoiding relegation. It shows how bad it has got under MH - far worse than the last 2 seasons of Pulis. Interesting.... Pulis won 20 of his last 76 games with us... Averaging 26% in his final 2 seasons. Hughes has won 15 of his last 56 (last season plus this season so far)... Averaging 26%. Pulis only won 3 of his final 18 games with us as we limped to 42pts. Hughes has won 4 of his last 18, only marginally better. Hughes has a better overall record (wins, points, league position) than Pulis. Both managers took us forward for a while then started to take us backwards. Their records are not too dissimilar. I think your rose tinted spectacles are blinding you slightly... Pulis' last season in particular was diabolical. Much the same as now. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2017 22:34:07 GMT
Would love to see him back, after taking us to the Prem, Europe & a Cup Final...Legend! If he can do that then keeping us up is easy.. Please don't Groan, we need Tone TEST Enjoy his last two seasons did you? I did to be fair, lovely child & he kept us up. TEST |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 16, 2017 22:37:13 GMT
Enjoy his last two seasons did you? I did to be fair, lovely child & he kept us up. TEST ‘Keeping us up’ wasn’t an achievement in his last two seasons. There was only ever any mild doubt because he’d dismantled the team he’d built to construct a slower, duller, worse one at significant expense. |
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Post by march4 on Dec 16, 2017 22:40:19 GMT
They were ok. I thought he could have improved our football with better signings over time. I loved the fact that Arsenal feared and hated us. We had identity and a fighting spirit. Better football and quality and improvement would have been great but I most fear going back to where we started when I kid - League One (Second Division then) I saw an FA cup final, the Europa League and never once thought relegation was a realistic prospect under Pulis. Now I would be delighted just with avoiding relegation. It shows how bad it has got under MH - far worse than the last 2 seasons of Pulis. Interesting.... Pulis won 20 of his last 76 games with us... Averaging 26% in his final 2 seasons. Hughes has won 15 of his last 56 (last season plus this season so far)... Averaging 26%. Pulis only won 3 of his final 18 games with us as we limped to 42pts. Hughes has won 4 of his last 18, only marginally better. Hughes has a better overall record (wins, points, league position) than Pulis. Both managers took us forward for a while then started to take us backwards. Their records are not too dissimilar. I think your rose tinted spectacles are blinding you slightly... Pulis' last season in particular was diabolical. Much the same as now. We were 8th on Boxing Day in TP's final season after the demolition of Liverpool. So his final season was a long way from diabolical. We also finished the season with 8pts in the last 5 games as TP turned things around. In his miraculous reign of many years, we stuttered for 4 months and his enemies struck. It was the worst decision made at the club since the Butler Street Stand was not insured. Now is the time to rid the club of those employees who did not give him their complete support and bring him back to do the job he was born for. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 16, 2017 22:42:17 GMT
Interesting.... Pulis won 20 of his last 76 games with us... Averaging 26% in his final 2 seasons. Hughes has won 15 of his last 56 (last season plus this season so far)... Averaging 26%. Pulis only won 3 of his final 18 games with us as we limped to 42pts. Hughes has won 4 of his last 18, only marginally better. Hughes has a better overall record (wins, points, league position) than Pulis. Both managers took us forward for a while then started to take us backwards. Their records are not too dissimilar. I think your rose tinted spectacles are blinding you slightly... Pulis' last season in particular was diabolical. Much the same as now. We were 8th on Boxing Day in TP's final season after the demolition of Liverpool. So his final season was a long way from diabolical. We also finished the season with 8pts in the last 5 games as TP turned things around. In his miraculous reign of many years, we stuttered for 4 months and his enemies struck. It was the worst decision made at the club since the Butler Street Stand was not insured. Now is the time to rid the club of those employees who did not give him their complete support and bring him back to do the job he was born for. Again, he won 22% of his games after New Year’s Day 2012. |
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Post by march4 on Dec 16, 2017 22:42:37 GMT
Enjoy his last two seasons did you? I did to be fair, lovely child & he kept us up. TEST Indeed they were quite magnificent compared to the utter rubbish the Pulis haters have inflicted on us since they forced out the greatest manager the club will ever have. |
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Post by Davef on Dec 16, 2017 22:43:36 GMT
Interesting.... Pulis won 20 of his last 76 games with us... Averaging 26% in his final 2 seasons. Hughes has won 15 of his last 56 (last season plus this season so far)... Averaging 26%. Pulis only won 3 of his final 18 games with us as we limped to 42pts. Hughes has won 4 of his last 18, only marginally better. Hughes has a better overall record (wins, points, league position) than Pulis. Both managers took us forward for a while then started to take us backwards. Their records are not too dissimilar. I think your rose tinted spectacles are blinding you slightly... Pulis' last season in particular was diabolical. Much the same as now. We were 8th on Boxing Day in TP's final season after the demolition of Liverpool. So his final season was a long way from diabolical. We also finished the season with 8pts in the last 5 games as TP turned things around. In his miraculous reign of many years, we stuttered for 4 months and his enemies struck. It was the worst decision made at the club since the Butler Street Stand was not insured. Now is the time to rid the club of those employees who did not give him their complete support and bring him back to do the job he was born for. We were 8th on Boxing Day, yet with just five games to go we were in serious danger of relegation You need to stop trolling this message board March. |
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Post by pb1863 on Dec 16, 2017 22:44:17 GMT
Neither Hughes and Pulis should ever manage Stoke again. End of. As to who comes in I have NFI
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Post by scfc75 on Dec 16, 2017 23:06:08 GMT
Interesting.... Pulis won 20 of his last 76 games with us... Averaging 26% in his final 2 seasons. Hughes has won 15 of his last 56 (last season plus this season so far)... Averaging 26%. Pulis only won 3 of his final 18 games with us as we limped to 42pts. Hughes has won 4 of his last 18, only marginally better. Hughes has a better overall record (wins, points, league position) than Pulis. Both managers took us forward for a while then started to take us backwards. Their records are not too dissimilar. I think your rose tinted spectacles are blinding you slightly... Pulis' last season in particular was diabolical. Much the same as now. We were 8th on Boxing Day in TP's final season after the demolition of Liverpool. So his final season was a long way from diabolical. We also finished the season with 8pts in the last 5 games as TP turned things around. In his miraculous reign of many years, we stuttered for 4 months and his enemies struck. It was the worst decision made at the club since the Butler Street Stand was not insured. Now is the time to rid the club of those employees who did not give him their complete support and bring him back to do the job he was born for. How would you rate last season under Hughes? Do you think he should have been replaced in the summer? Before you answer, your hero managed 9 wins in his 'miraculous' final season... 9 wins, 34 goals and 42pts. Last season Hughes managed 11 wins, 41 goals and 44 points. |
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Post by thepottypotter on Dec 16, 2017 23:42:36 GMT
We were 8th on Boxing Day in TP's final season after the demolition of Liverpool. So his final season was a long way from diabolical. We also finished the season with 8pts in the last 5 games as TP turned things around. In his miraculous reign of many years, we stuttered for 4 months and his enemies struck. It was the worst decision made at the club since the Butler Street Stand was not insured. Now is the time to rid the club of those employees who did not give him their complete support and bring him back to do the job he was born for. How would you rate last season under Hughes? Do you think he should have been replaced in the summer? Before you answer, your hero managed 9 wins in his 'miraculous' final season... 9 wins, 34 goals and 42pts. Last season Hughes managed 11 wins, 41 goals and 44 points. Neither Pulis in his last season was great and Hughes was not either last season. I think now (and thought at the time) letting TP go at the time, without offering more support was a mistake. I have also been quite sceptical about changing our style too much for the sake of quality and better free flowing football because, well, at the end of the day we are Stoke and are never going to outfootball the top 6. If the grit, fight and organisation are lost then... heads go down fast especially if a squad is not drilled in fighting that way and it is v hard to regain confidence and fight. MH was an interesting experiment. Worked significantly better than I expected for a while and with hindsight it was reliant on the stable core of TP squad with defensive qualities drilled in that MH could build on. MH again.. summer it disappointing and I would not have let him go. I hate the managerial merry go round. However it is obvious that our defense is terrible and we don't have proven goalscorers. Only 3 of our squad are def good quality prem players. MH doesn't have a plan B... backs to the wall, show em hell, fight to the last man standing and inspire fear in any team visiting the stadium. It was interesting experiment with MH but everyone needs to be careful what we wish for. We are talking ourselves into the Championship. Time to remember we are Stoke. We need to turn the stadium into a bearpit again and bring back Stoke's best ever manager (of my generation) of Super Tony Pulis!! |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 16, 2017 23:45:08 GMT
How would you rate last season under Hughes? Do you think he should have been replaced in the summer? Before you answer, your hero managed 9 wins in his 'miraculous' final season... 9 wins, 34 goals and 42pts. Last season Hughes managed 11 wins, 41 goals and 44 points. Neither Pulis in his last season was great and Hughes was not either last season. I think now (and thought at the time) letting TP go at the time, without offering more support was a mistake. I have also been quite sceptical about changing our style too much for the sake of quality and better free flowing football because, well, at the end of the day we are Stoke and are never going to outfootball the top 6. If the grit, fight and organisation are lost then... heads go down fast especially if a squad is not drilled in fighting that way and it is v hard to regain confidence and fight. MH was an interesting experiment. Worked significantly better than I expected for a while and with hindsight it was reliant on the stable core of TP squad with defensive qualities drilled in that MH could build on. MH again.. summer it disappointing and I would not have let him go. I hate the managerial merry go round. However it is obvious that our defense is terrible and we don't have proven goalscorers. Only 3 of our squad are def good quality prem players. MH doesn't have a plan B... backs to the wall, show em hell, fight to the last man standing and inspire fear in any team visiting the stadium. It was interesting experiment with MH but everyone needs to be careful what we wish for. We are talking ourselves into the Championship. Time to remember we are Stoke. We need to turn the stadium into a bearpit again and bring back Stoke's best ever manager (of my generation) of Super Tony Pulis!! Why couldn’t Pulis manage a top 10 finish if all Hughes did was take on his team? Pulis had taken the team he built backwards just as Hughes has over a similar period of time. He spent a fortune to dismantle a team that could’ve gone far if he’d only allowed it to. |
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Post by 'i'mnaked' on Dec 17, 2017 10:15:25 GMT
2 choices. Relegation or Tone.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2017 10:15:44 GMT
NO!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2017 10:16:33 GMT
Admin need to start banning the morons starting these threads.
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Post by chinesedave on Dec 17, 2017 10:19:35 GMT
Nigel Pearson built that Leicester side that won the league. He'd be a good choice.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Dec 17, 2017 10:20:25 GMT
Admin need to start banning the morons starting these threads.
Yep it's getting silly now, it's just spam.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2017 10:21:02 GMT
He's favourite for the Rangers job, according to the daily record
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Post by ursemboys on Dec 17, 2017 10:23:36 GMT
2 choices. Relegation or Tone. Please Please stop this Pulis in crap , he would destroy the club |
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Post by fentonian on Dec 17, 2017 10:23:38 GMT
Pulis in would be the biggest step backwards this club will ever make if it happens.
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Post by Macko on Dec 17, 2017 10:24:40 GMT
Nope, no, nach, niet, nein, never, can you not get the message yet? No matter his skills, his appointment would be civil war at the club. We need a new solution, but never this one.
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Post by pulismaskreplica on Dec 17, 2017 10:25:14 GMT
If Pulis hadn’t got the history here (burnt bridges etc) he’d be the perfect choice
However what we 100% need is a manager that can organise the defence and play his players in their correct positions. It’s not rocket science and it’s not pretty to watch but we are in no position to fanny about.
Pearson or Martin O’Neill are the 2 obvious and realistic options. Would I want either of these in the summer? Of course not but what we need now is different to what we needed then
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Post by superheroantonius on Dec 17, 2017 10:25:22 GMT
He's favourite for the Rangers job, according to the daily record Was going to say, we would have to be quick, apparently the board at glasgow rangers are all agreed... Tony pulis |
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Post by bhp on Dec 17, 2017 10:25:24 GMT
2 choices. Relegation or Tone. Relegation thanks. |
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Post by superheroantonius on Dec 17, 2017 10:27:50 GMT
If Pulis hadn’t got the history here (burnt bridges etc) he’d be the perfect choice However what we 100% need is a manager that can organise the defence and play his players in their correct positions. It’s not rocket science and it’s not pretty to watch but we are in no position to fanny about. Pearson or Martin O’Neill are the 2 obvious and realistic options. Would I want either of these in the summer? Of course not but what we need now is different to what we needed then Pulis history at stoke is he has twice been manager and both times left the club in a better state than when he joined |
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Post by richardparker on Dec 17, 2017 10:28:21 GMT
Pulis needs to retire at this timely moment and go enjoy the south coast.
Hopefully to never be seen nor heard of again!
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Post by Block 22 on Dec 17, 2017 10:29:49 GMT
Quite honestly would rather go down than have that dinosaur in charge. When he was at the helm I lost my life long love for football entirely not just watching Stoke.
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