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Post by innocentbystander on Nov 29, 2017 23:31:49 GMT
Come on, we've been in the Prem 10 years, we know how it works now: there's the big six and the rest are just cannon fodder.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Nov 29, 2017 23:35:17 GMT
Both terrible decisions as MOTD has just proved😡
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2017 23:35:54 GMT
I hope to outlive him just to be able to defecate on his grave Its amazing how one tiny sperm and one tiny egg could make such a huge cunt
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2017 23:37:17 GMT
Both terrible decisions as MOTD has just proved😡 That non sending was one of the worst decisions I’ve ever witnessed in 36 years of watching football. Absolute bullshit....
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Nov 29, 2017 23:41:42 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2017 23:41:42 GMT
One of the clearest red cards you will ever see. However I put as much blame on the shoulders of the assistants. That’s what they are remember not linesmen they are referees ASSISSTANTS!! Well firstly the assistant is 6ft away from seeing gomes cross a ball that is out of play. And the other assistant it looking across the line when diouf gets completely taken out where he can see he’s in front of gomes. Yes Atkinson is a complete cunt but for me the assisstants are the real inept bastards tonight
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Post by thebet365 on Nov 29, 2017 23:41:55 GMT
Mingolet has just admitted he took 1 for the team to prevent it being 1-1. Absolute piss take
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Nov 29, 2017 23:45:22 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2017 23:45:22 GMT
How that man can continue to officiate when he has failed to act without discretion with Mignolet is beyond me
The last player, who could in a goal scoring opportunity, fouls the attacker is a red card
Any other decision is nothing short of a scandal for bias or for sheer ineptitude ðŸ˜
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Post by Roger Everyone on Nov 29, 2017 23:46:09 GMT
After that, we are due some luck... hopefully this season.... we need it
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Post by skip on Nov 30, 2017 0:03:19 GMT
How that man can continue to officiate when he has failed to act without discretion with Mignolet is beyond me The last player, who could in a goal scoring opportunity, fouls the attacker is a red card Any other decision is nothing short of a scandal for bias or for sheer ineptitude 😠Atkinson should be made to publicly justify his decision.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2017 0:07:23 GMT
How that man can continue to officiate when he has failed to act without discretion with Mignolet is beyond me The last player, who could in a goal scoring opportunity, fouls the attacker is a red card Any other decision is nothing short of a scandal for bias or for sheer ineptitude 😠Atkinson should be made to publicly justify his decision. I think I could actually respect the grey haired twat if he just came out and said "I fucking hate Stoke with a passion and unfortunately that influences me when a decision might go in there favour"
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Nov 30, 2017 1:04:05 GMT
I know it's cliché to play this card.... But you just know with Twatkinson that had it been down the other end Grant would have walked!!!
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Nov 30, 2017 1:14:04 GMT
He is a corrupt cuntrag.
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Post by JoeinOz on Nov 30, 2017 2:21:35 GMT
How that man can continue to officiate when he has failed to act without discretion with Mignolet is beyond me The last player, who could in a goal scoring opportunity, fouls the attacker is a red card Any other decision is nothing short of a scandal for bias or for sheer ineptitude 😠Atkinson should be made to publicly justify his decision. Yes he should. And if there's something we have all missed fair enough. Unless we hear an explanation we are justified in feeling ripped off. Some might say it wouldn't have changed the result and that may or may not be right but it isn't the point.
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Post by duckling on Nov 30, 2017 2:51:36 GMT
The most worrying thing was that it didn't get the crowd going. In past seasons such an injustice would have led to Mignolet being booed every time he touched the ball and wanker chants the rest of the game. Today the fans didn't seem to care.
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Nov 30, 2017 2:59:04 GMT
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Post by CalgaryPotter on Nov 30, 2017 2:59:04 GMT
The most worrying thing was that it didn't get the crowd going. In past seasons such an injustice would have led to Mignolet being booed every time he touched the ball and wanker chants the rest of the game. Today the fans didn't seem to care. That treatment is generally handed out to an outfield player not a goalkeeper who benefited from a bent decision. The outfield player can be intimidated by both fans and Stoke players, usually taking it in turns to have a pop at the player. Prime examples have been Costa, SWP & Suarez
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Nov 30, 2017 5:08:25 GMT
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Post by duckling on Nov 30, 2017 5:08:25 GMT
The most worrying thing was that it didn't get the crowd going. In past seasons such an injustice would have led to Mignolet being booed every time he touched the ball and wanker chants the rest of the game. Today the fans didn't seem to care. That treatment is generally handed out to an outfield player not a goalkeeper who benefited from a bent decision. The outfield player can be intimidated by both fans and Stoke players, usually taking it in turns to have a pop at the player. Prime examples have been Costa, SWP & Suarez All the more reason to have booed Mignolet at every opportunity. Goalkeepers aren't used to abuse by opposition fans.
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Post by greyman on Nov 30, 2017 8:15:51 GMT
I think the club should now deal with this. It's either a bottle job for the bigger club - far and away the most likely explanation - but it may well be actual corruption when you look at such an outrageous decision. I don't know what the answer is but certainly the club should be asking questions about the fitness of this man to ref Stoke games.
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Post by Fred Ferret on Nov 30, 2017 8:54:02 GMT
The club should register a formal complaint. Make it public and refuse to accept that Turd officiating at another Stoke game this season.
There must also be, in existence, a local ordnance that allows an authority to place twats like him in a public stock, to allow the community to throw rotten vegetables at it. Alternatively, if no fruit or vegetables are available, due to Brexit, piss on him!
I feel better now.
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Post by KevinWhimper on Nov 30, 2017 9:01:51 GMT
Yes Atkinson had a shocker with the red card. For me the first goal was fine and didn’t go out and we fell asleep defensively. Listening to radio Stoke last night I couldn’t believe how much they were blaming the defeat on the ref, and then went on to say how well Stoke played! Absolutely ridiculous. Even with 10 men they would have sat back, soaked up the pressure and nailed us on the counter with the pace of Salah etc. We were utter garbage last night and anyone blaming the ref in my eyes is kidding themselves. The worst thing is that Hughes will hide behind the inept referee performance and not his fucking appalling management.
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Post by metalhead on Nov 30, 2017 9:59:41 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2017 10:01:45 GMT
Atkinson is one prick! Of the highest order!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2017 10:45:38 GMT
Yes Atkinson had a shocker with the red card. For me the first goal was fine and didn’t go out and we fell asleep defensively. Listening to radio Stoke last night I couldn’t believe how much they were blaming the defeat on the ref, and then went on to say how well Stoke played! Absolutely ridiculous. Even with 10 men they would have sat back, soaked up the pressure and nailed us on the counter with the pace of Salah etc. We were utter garbage last night and anyone blaming the ref in my eyes is kidding themselves. The worst thing is that Hughes will hide behind the inept referee performance and not his fucking appalling management. I had a sinking feeling that if they had gone down to ten we would not of scored but they might of 😕
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Post by Veritas on Nov 30, 2017 11:24:58 GMT
Yes Atkinson had a shocker with the red card. For me the first goal was fine and didn’t go out and we fell asleep defensively. Listening to radio Stoke last night I couldn’t believe how much they were blaming the defeat on the ref, and then went on to say how well Stoke played! Absolutely ridiculous. Even with 10 men they would have sat back, soaked up the pressure and nailed us on the counter with the pace of Salah etc. We were utter garbage last night and anyone blaming the ref in my eyes is kidding themselves. The worst thing is that Hughes will hide behind the inept referee performance and not his fucking appalling management. Hide behind the inept ref, what are you talking about? MoTD clearly showed it was a sending off and by the way also highlighted a penalty that should have been given for holding Crouch in the box, but granted many of those are missed. The Mignolet decision was a game changer and whatever you feel about Hughes he was correct to point it out as such. If you want Hughes gone fair enough but don't spout such garbage in the face of black and white evidence,
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Post by burystokie on Nov 30, 2017 11:25:38 GMT
I don't think it affected the overall result that much. On current form, Liverpool are a far better team than Stoke, I fully expected them to beat us and I suspect they still would have done with 10 men. However, that should not and does not deflect anything from what is possibly THE worst refereeing decision I've ever seen in my life. If it had happened when we were already 3-0 down it would still have been just as much of a disgrace.
Usually, if an official makes a bad decision, you can see some reason why he made the call he did. It might be a bad reason, you might still think it was a shocker, but there's some excuse - a bad angle, interpreted an incident wrongly in the split second he had to make a decision, etc. For example, I think the linesman should have flagged before the first goal - of course I do, I'm biased - but I can see it was a tight call. Even if the ball had travelled a couple of inches further, I could still say ok, maybe he wasn't sure it went out, couldn't see clearly, etc.
Atkinson on the other hand, saw a player go clean through on goal, directly in the centre of the pitch, right on the edge of the penalty area, and get blatantly cleaned out by the GOALKEEPER (not even the last defender!) and somehow came to the conclusion that he hadn't been denied an obvious goalscoring opportunity?? If he has to stand in front of his boss and explain that decision - and if he isn't required to do just that then it will be a further disgrace - there is not one single thing he could point to in mitigation, not one. That is what sets this apart from almost any other refereeing "mistake" you'd ever see.
Even this "last man" thing that Klopp has come up with is pathetic. For starters, the whole "last man" thing is a myth - there is no "last man" rule, you either denied an obvious goalscoring opportunity or you didn't. But even if we ignore the fact the rule he's quoting doesn't actually, as such exist, he was still the last man anyway. And even if we ignore that as well, when people talk about the last man, they almost always really mean "the last outfield player", ie only the goalkeeper left to beat, and there wasn't even that!
It is an absolute disgrace, in some ways actually worse than the decision itself, that Atkinson is being allowed to referee in the Premier League this weekend. We all know that if he'd done the same thing to a higher profile club then he would have been very publicly demoted. That isn't Stokie paranoia, it's just a fact. I sincerely hope though that at the very least there are some seriously harsh words being exchanged with the referees' organisation this morning. If one good thing is to come from this sorry mess, I reckon it might be quite some time before we see Atkinson allowed anywhere near another Stoke game.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Nov 30, 2017 11:27:10 GMT
I hope to outlive him just to be able to defecate on his grave Its amazing how one tiny sperm and one tiny egg could make such a huge cunt
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Nov 30, 2017 11:30:28 GMT
Yes Atkinson had a shocker with the red card. For me the first goal was fine and didn’t go out and we fell asleep defensively. Listening to radio Stoke last night I couldn’t believe how much they were blaming the defeat on the ref, and then went on to say how well Stoke played! Absolutely ridiculous. Even with 10 men they would have sat back, soaked up the pressure and nailed us on the counter with the pace of Salah etc. We were utter garbage last night and anyone blaming the ref in my eyes is kidding themselves. The worst thing is that Hughes will hide behind the inept referee performance and not his fucking appalling management. Hide behind the inept ref, what are you talking about? MoTD clearly showed it was a sending off and by the way also highlighted a penalty that should have been given for holding Crouch in the box, but granted many of those are missed. The Mignolet decision was a game changer and whatever you feel about Hughes he was correct to point it out as such. If you want Hughes gone fair enough but don't spout such garbage in the face of black and white evidence, Well said mate. Bang on.
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Post by Davef on Nov 30, 2017 12:18:19 GMT
Even two years ago, this thread would have been in double figures pages by now, but because people are so pissed off with the manager and our performances we have Stoke fans just accepting one of the most blatant cases of cheating we've seen at this stadium, and by god there have been plenty of bad ones.
Hardly anyone is disputing that we didn't play well enough last night to have deserved to have won the game, but nobody knows how the match would have evolved if Mignolet had been sent off. Chances are Klopp would've taken off Solanke and brought on another defensive-minded player, probably Henderson and with the promise Stoke were showing after we'd put Diouf up front then who knows what would've happened? By the same token of course, Liverpool still had talented players like Firmino and Mane on the pitch and maybe still would've won the game, but we'll never know. The player who scored two goals with 22 players on the pitch might not even have come on had his team been down to ten men.
There are plenty of other threads to discuss how shit we currently are.
Leave this one to talk about how much of a twat Martin Atkinson is.
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Post by milky on Nov 30, 2017 12:38:37 GMT
The only thing you have to ask yourself is if that incident was replicated at the other end would Grant have stayed on the pitch ?
I think you know the answer!
Doesn't matter how we were playing or how the game panned out it's almost certain Klopp would have sacrificed a creative type to bring on the sub keeper.
It was cheating.Pure and simple. But we already know this league is corrupt.
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Post by Biblical on Nov 30, 2017 12:40:51 GMT
I've lost count of how many bad decisions Atkinson has made against us over the years but this one tops the lot.
Klopp's comment about having players covering was nonsense as well, if Mignolet doesn't make the foul then Diouf rolls it into an empty net. Denying a goal scoring opportunity outside the box is a red card all day long.
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Post by elystokie on Nov 30, 2017 12:46:50 GMT
The most worrying thing was that it didn't get the crowd going. In past seasons such an injustice would have led to Mignolet being booed every time he touched the ball and wanker chants the rest of the game. Today the fans didn't seem to care. Didn't get the crowd going? Really? Most around me were incandescent with rage, and when the linesman came to the Boothen to check the nets at the start of the second half he was treated to the 'wanker' chant. Also Mignolet was booed by a fair few around me pretty much every time he got the ball.
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