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Post by oggyoggy on Oct 28, 2017 18:07:33 GMT
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Post by essexstokey on Oct 31, 2017 9:38:51 GMT
The Torys the sexist touchy up feely party!! If you have money you think you can get away with anything
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Post by professorplump on Oct 31, 2017 10:10:11 GMT
Are you seriously suggesting that only rich people touch women inappropriately? I wouldn't get too smug as there are probably Labour MP's caught up in this as well.
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Post by yeokel on Oct 31, 2017 10:42:25 GMT
I don't understand why the husband can't give the wife the "round-the-clock care" that the article says she needs in America. Do they not have round clocks there? What difference does it make to them whether he cares for over here or over there (where the health facilities are so much better anyway)? And whilst he's caring for her, they could apply for the correct sort of visas like they should have done in the first place and then come back to use our NHS for free, if the visas are granted.
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Post by metalhead on Oct 31, 2017 10:51:10 GMT
Are you seriously suggesting that only rich people touch women inappropriately? I wouldn't get too smug as there are probably Labour MP's caught up in this as well. I'm quite surprised any MP's are caught up in this. I work in a professional environment and see absolutely zero sexism in the office. I work with women and in this climate, you'd expect to hear stories, but it simply doesn't seem to happen. It's not that we're progressive, it's just that we know shoving your hand up your colleagues skirt isn't actually very nice, or legal, or even a pleasant thing to do. You hear the odd story about "oh wow, x slept with y at the works christmas do" but that is two consenting adults after a few drinks and some chat. That is NOT what is being reported here. This kind of hardcore sexism is what I'd expect from uber male dominated professions, where sexism is just part of the game. I would never have expected to see this from MP's, where there is a much more even representation across the sexes and people who really should know better. Oh well. Utter scumbags.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Oct 31, 2017 17:09:47 GMT
Are you seriously suggesting that only rich people touch women inappropriately? I wouldn't get too smug as there are probably Labour MP's caught up in this as well. I'm quite surprised any MP's are caught up in this. I work in a professional environment and see absolutely zero sexism in the office. I work with women and in this climate, you'd expect to hear stories, but it simply doesn't seem to happen. It's not that we're progressive, it's just that we know shoving your hand up your colleagues skirt isn't actually very nice, or legal, or even a pleasant thing to do. You hear the odd story about "oh wow, x slept with y at the works christmas do" but that is two consenting adults after a few drinks and some chat. That is NOT what is being reported here. This kind of hardcore sexism is what I'd expect from uber male dominated professions, where sexism is just part of the game. I would never have expected to see this from MP's, where there is a much more even representation across the sexes and people who really should know better. Oh well. Utter scumbags. Nasty Tory sexist blah blah blah. I guess it sells papers....
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Post by essexstokey on Oct 31, 2017 17:19:19 GMT
I'm quite surprised any MP's are caught up in this. I work in a professional environment and see absolutely zero sexism in the office. I work with women and in this climate, you'd expect to hear stories, but it simply doesn't seem to happen. It's not that we're progressive, it's just that we know shoving your hand up your colleagues skirt isn't actually very nice, or legal, or even a pleasant thing to do. You hear the odd story about "oh wow, x slept with y at the works christmas do" but that is two consenting adults after a few drinks and some chat. That is NOT what is being reported here. This kind of hardcore sexism is what I'd expect from uber male dominated professions, where sexism is just part of the game. I would never have expected to see this from MP's, where there is a much more even representation across the sexes and people who really should know better. Oh well. Utter scumbags. Nasty Tory sexist blah blah blah. I guess it sells papers.... Yes roger it sells papers those of the tory press sun saying 6 ministers may be implicated if it was the guardian or the mirror you would say that they had a political agenda however its in your tory supporting press !!
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Post by lordb on Oct 31, 2017 17:22:28 GMT
Clearly a cross part issue however would venture public school types (you will find them in all parties but more so Tory) are more susceptible to these situations.
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Post by metalhead on Oct 31, 2017 17:24:19 GMT
I'm quite surprised any MP's are caught up in this. I work in a professional environment and see absolutely zero sexism in the office. I work with women and in this climate, you'd expect to hear stories, but it simply doesn't seem to happen. It's not that we're progressive, it's just that we know shoving your hand up your colleagues skirt isn't actually very nice, or legal, or even a pleasant thing to do. You hear the odd story about "oh wow, x slept with y at the works christmas do" but that is two consenting adults after a few drinks and some chat. That is NOT what is being reported here. This kind of hardcore sexism is what I'd expect from uber male dominated professions, where sexism is just part of the game. I would never have expected to see this from MP's, where there is a much more even representation across the sexes and people who really should know better. Oh well. Utter scumbags. Nasty Tory sexist blah blah blah. I guess it sells papers.... I think it probably involves both Labour and Tories.... and by the way, if you've not worked it out by now.... I'm totally apolitical. I believe good ideas will flourish and bad ideas sink. That's why the left wing on here aren't keen on me, and the right wing are equally not keen on me. Just thought I'd let you know.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2017 17:33:45 GMT
It shouldn't come as much of a surprise that a sex-abuse scandal has emerged at parliament. It's fairly apparent that being an MP is one of those jobs where, paradoxically, the people with traits that prove most advantageous in elevating oneself to such a sacred position of power are quite often the people least worthy of reaching such positions. I'm not saying this is true for all MPs, or even a majority, but at the very least there are a worrying number who clearly have little care for others and do that job for no other reason than wanting to increase their own power and wealth whilst exerting power and control over others. These are exactly the sort of scum who will think nothing of sexually-abusing someone else for their own gratification. If the consequences of actions don't hurt them then there are no consequences. I see a number of stories like this, where the government is seemingly over-zealous in targeting certain types of illegals. Then I see stuff like IS fighters returning to the country with little resistance (I know they're "British" but they should be detained indefinitely) and other stories of illegals being given the red-carpet. And I can't help but dust off my tinfoil hat because the ridiculousness means it surely cannot be mere incompetence. Quite frankly, it wouldn't surprise me one bit if stories like the one you posted are exactly the sort of publicity the government intended. A smokescreen for some other deeply pernicious, catastrophic plan perhaps?
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Post by boothenboy75 on Oct 31, 2017 17:51:31 GMT
Nasty Tory sexist blah blah blah. I guess it sells papers.... Yes roger it sells papers those of the tory press sun saying 6 ministers may be implicated if it was the guardian or the mirror you would say that they had a political agenda however its in your tory supporting press !! A bit like the expenses scandal this will cross party lines and trying to make political capital out of it is pretty sad and desperate.
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Post by boothenboy75 on Oct 31, 2017 17:55:45 GMT
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Post by felonious on Oct 31, 2017 18:10:57 GMT
It was pretty evident on a phone in this morning when the Labour spokesperson refused to be drawn on any condemnation of Fallon that they've got their fair share of dirty laundry.
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Post by wagsastokie on Oct 31, 2017 21:03:28 GMT
I don't believe it One its in the telegraph and everyone knows only the guardian prints the truth Two the lovely cuddly socialists wouldn't dream of doing such a thing to a fellow comrade Three there is not a chance any Labour Party member would be derogatory to a women (apart from the two MPs in the last week ) Let alone commit inappropriate behaviour
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Oct 31, 2017 21:13:20 GMT
Can't we all just admit that the Tories & Labour are equally as wank, equally as filled with scumbags of everykind, and both have fuck all consideration for the 'average Joe'?
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Post by wagsastokie on Oct 31, 2017 21:19:48 GMT
Can't we all just admit that the Tories & Labour are equally as wank, equally as filled with scumbags of everykind, and both have fuck all consideration for the 'average Joe'? You are totally correct we should be saying there equally as bad But that's not the point of this Tory bashing tread its to show corbyn and his cohorts can walk on water
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Oct 31, 2017 21:21:58 GMT
Can't we all just admit that the Tories & Labour are equally as wank, equally as filled with scumbags of everykind, and both have fuck all consideration for the 'average Joe'? You are totally correct we should be saying there equally as bad But that's not the point of this Tory bashing tread its to show corbyn and his cohorts can walk on water I await your post on the "Knives out for Corbyn" thread, saying how it's a Labour bashing thread blah blah
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Post by wagsastokie on Oct 31, 2017 21:41:03 GMT
You are totally correct we should be saying there equally as bad But that's not the point of this Tory bashing tread its to show corbyn and his cohorts can walk on water I await your post on the "Knives out for Corbyn" thread, saying how it's a Labour bashing thread blah blah I shall not disappoint you then having just looked again it Appears to me to be a anti corbyn tread then anti labour and was pointing out a pending labour civil war And was directed at a certain person rather than a entire party
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Oct 31, 2017 22:36:33 GMT
Nasty Tory sexist blah blah blah. I guess it sells papers.... Yes roger it sells papers those of the tory press sun saying 6 ministers may be implicated if it was the guardian or the mirror you would say that they had a political agenda however its in your tory supporting press !! Implicated? In what exactly? The front page was about a hand on a knee. How about Labour covering up rape ...
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 2, 2017 11:32:58 GMT
The woman with the effluent touch strikes again In the name of God go you ridiculous harridan.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 2, 2017 12:29:53 GMT
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Post by metalhead on Nov 2, 2017 12:45:15 GMT
If the tories are the touchy feely party, at least from the stories, then labour are the rapey rapey party, at least as it stands. I'm sure there's plenty more to come out though.
None of this is particularly funny though, and the red tops are having a field day with their 'comedy' (I use the term loosely) headlines. It really is dangerous territory when you turn this kind of abuse into a bit of political point scoring fun.
The other problem is, we're now grouping all of these reports into one category. That is a fucking dreadful idea. Touching Julia Hartley-Brewer leg is absolutely not the same as the full blown rape accusation that has seemingly been covered up by Labour. Hartley-Brewer has said that on a few occasions now, not that anyone is listening. The BBC quickly ended her interview this morning to switch to some absolute frothing at the mouth feminist who said "it's not a minority of men, it's a majority of a men". The numbers are rising every day, but there are clearly differences.... and I mean for fucks sake, one of the reported claims of 'harassment', so it turns out, was an assistant being asked to go out and buy some lunch for an MP..... Sexist? NO, you're a fucking assistant, that is your job, that is what you are paid to do. Go down to fucking Tesco and get him a sandwich and fuck off.
And this is why I'm hated by both the left and the right on this forum. Good ideas float, shit ideas sink. I point that out.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 2, 2017 15:18:42 GMT
it's falling apart
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Nov 2, 2017 18:54:16 GMT
it's falling apart Nah it's not. Female Tory MP ..... I'll have a pound on ... Sourbry.
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Post by essexstokey on Nov 7, 2017 12:30:53 GMT
Ok which ever political party was in power if the following happened you would expect the PM to go if not a general election
1 Defence minister resigns because of inappropriate behaviour 2 Deputy pm under investigation for sexual inappropriateness 3 Government whip resigns and askes police to investigate him 4 former key tory Crab investigated for sexual misconduct 5 Foreign officer minister makes yet another gaff that may lead to 5 extra years in prison for a British citizen 6 Minister has meetings with foreign government without approval of PM but keeps job 7 Big donator is found to avoid tax in paradise papers 8 coalition government and this one accused of setting up a tax situation of 4% tax for biggest companies while the poorest pay a hell a lot of more 9 Ministers that think its ok to insult the EU negotiators when trying to negotiate a deal 10 up to 6 cabinet ministers under investigation for sexual misconduct
Giving May the benefit of the doubt at best she and the government can be described as inept and at worst corrupt! it severely draws into question her ability to judge character and run a government that is in the best interest of us the British people. It is time she left government and took the rest of her incompetent fools with her. And before people say that all party's are guilty yes they are but there is one major difference the Tory's are in government and should be whiter than white and the fact is they are a million miles away from it !!
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 7, 2017 12:43:36 GMT
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Post by Veritas on Nov 7, 2017 13:12:06 GMT
I thought Priti Patel was a joke now I know it
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Post by essexstokey on Nov 7, 2017 13:18:17 GMT
be careful sheikhmomo the tory boys will use the anti sematic card on you remember the Tory's are those that should be obeyed not investigated, and not questioned for there dodgy government!! kim jun May wants it that way
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Post by Kilo on Nov 7, 2017 13:36:11 GMT
be careful sheikhmomo the tory boys will use the anti sematic card on you remember the Tory's are those that should be obeyed not investigated, and not questioned for there dodgy government!! kim jun May wants it that way Funny how you pair keep calling all tories scum, but when stories appear about Labour MP's accused of rape and even topping themselves to avoid the backlash - you keep shtum.
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Post by essexstokey on Nov 7, 2017 14:06:48 GMT
be careful sheikhmomo the tory boys will use the anti sematic card on you remember the Tory's are those that should be obeyed not investigated, and not questioned for there dodgy government!! kim jun May wants it that way Funny how you pair keep calling all tories scum, but when stories appear about Labour MP's accused of rape and even topping themselves to avoid the backlash - you keep shtum. One the information you are referring too is not the same person and 2 if you look at what I said above I've said its not acceptable what I've also said is the tory government should be whiter than white as they are representing us and the fact that 6 ministers plus are being investigated shows Mays poor judgment of character. she also has ministers going off on there own bat doing stuff outside of there remit and doesn't sack them this shows she has no control. She has a foreign minister who is making diplomacy worse and is making constant gaffs and she is not again sacking him. She has a government in turmoil and not controlling it she is showing the leadership of a chocolate tea pot. Yes I condemn anyone that has done a sexual assault but the police should investigate each and every case however they probably won't because they are overstretched.
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