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Post by knype on May 8, 2024 11:48:15 GMT
Another example of just how close labour and Tory are now in policy. This is the woman who's husband was a tory MP for a decade before being found guilty of being a sex offenders and the tories then made his wife the candidate for the party. 14 years of tory scandal which she and her ex husband contributed too, and now welcomed with open arms in Starmers labour. Like I've said, all the same ! |
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2024 12:16:35 GMT
Cruella Braverperson suspected of posting on the Oatcake fanzine site under the user name, ‘knype’…. Or the majority of NORMAL people The majority of normal people aren’t heartless pieces of shit. I don’t think that you are but I am certain that Suella is. |
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Post by essexstokey on May 8, 2024 12:29:28 GMT
Is that the sort of MP you support essexstokey? Nope but isn't it telling she calls tories incompetent untrustworthy and defects also lampoon's the small boat policy |
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2024 12:41:03 GMT
Why do you vote for certain politicians Phil? Is it because they promise things that you believe are appropriate? If they stop doing that, don’t you stop voting for them? What is the point of rallies, meetings with party members, community outreach and conferences etc if not to figure out what your voter base wants? |
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2024 12:46:26 GMT
Is that the sort of MP you support essexstokey? Nope but isn't it telling she calls tories incompetent untrustworthy and defects also lampoon's the small boat policy Which is her revisionism to appeal for a longer tenure. She voted for the Rwanda scheme: members.parliament.uk/member/4795/voting and has blasted Labour for rejecting it. It’s almost as if she’ll say anything as long as she has a job….. |
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Post by salopstick on May 8, 2024 13:04:33 GMT
i dont care about which party but defections do show a lack of scruples
again regardless of parties this is a fair statement
A Conservative member of Dover District Council says he is "sickened" by the Dover MP's decision to move to the Labour Party.
"I'm saddened," Councillor Stephen Mannion tells the PA news agency, "because we gave her a lot of support down here."
"A lot of the members of the association were out there week after week campaigning for her. It feels like a kick in the stomach really," he adds.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 8, 2024 13:07:28 GMT
Another example of just how close labour and Tory are now in policy. This is the woman who's husband was a tory MP for a decade before being found guilty of being a sex offenders and the tories then made his wife the candidate for the party. 14 years of tory scandal which she and her ex husband contributed too, and now welcomed with open arms in Starmers labour. Like I've said, all the same ! And like you've been repeatedly told...no they're not. |
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Post by prestwichpotter on May 8, 2024 13:09:40 GMT
Elphicke - like my own defector MP Christian Wakeford - is fucking awful. She'll fit in well in Starmer's Labour Party.......
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Post by salopstick on May 8, 2024 13:19:52 GMT
i dont know if any of these defectors are good and constituency MPs if they are I assume they fear for their seat at the inevitable culling of tory MPs and jump to th enext party that keeps them on the gravy train
for labour its holding thier noses as it damages the tories more
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2024 13:21:16 GMT
i dont care about which party but defections do show a lack of scruples again regardless of parties this is a fair statement A Conservative member of Dover District Council says he is "sickened" by the Dover MP's decision to move to the Labour Party. "I'm saddened," Councillor Stephen Mannion tells the PA news agency, "because we gave her a lot of support down here." "A lot of the members of the association were out there week after week campaigning for her. It feels like a kick in the stomach really," he adds. Defections should lead to abdication of the seat. If that MP wants to run again under another party, they should be allowed to (if the party wants them). To join your political rival who are supposed to be anti everything you believe in is bullshit. To accept them is equally bullshit. |
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Post by desman2 on May 8, 2024 13:40:05 GMT
i dont care about which party but defections do show a lack of scruples again regardless of parties this is a fair statement A Conservative member of Dover District Council says he is "sickened" by the Dover MP's decision to move to the Labour Party. "I'm saddened," Councillor Stephen Mannion tells the PA news agency, "because we gave her a lot of support down here." "A lot of the members of the association were out there week after week campaigning for her. It feels like a kick in the stomach really," he adds. Defections should lead to abdication of the seat. If that MP wants to run again under another party, they should be allowed to (if the party wants them). To join your political rival who are supposed to be anti everything you believe in is bullshit. To accept them is equally bullshit. The whole political system is bullshit. Its just that too many people haven't yet figured that out. |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 8, 2024 14:56:16 GMT
Elphicke - like my own defector MP Christian Wakeford - is fucking awful. She'll fit in well in Starmer's Labour Party....... I am genuinely astonished they've welcomed her, even for Starmer this is a new low. |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 8, 2024 14:57:44 GMT
i dont care about which party but defections do show a lack of scruples again regardless of parties this is a fair statement A Conservative member of Dover District Council says he is "sickened" by the Dover MP's decision to move to the Labour Party. "I'm saddened," Councillor Stephen Mannion tells the PA news agency, "because we gave her a lot of support down here." "A lot of the members of the association were out there week after week campaigning for her. It feels like a kick in the stomach really," he adds. In total agreement there Al - all of them who do this should have the courage to resign and stand again. |
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Post by salopstick on May 8, 2024 15:00:35 GMT
a friend of mine is a tory county councillor. hes a great bloke works hard for the community etc etc. he says the parlimentary party is letting people like him down and smearing them all with the same stink
i agree
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Post by salopstick on May 8, 2024 15:02:32 GMT
Elphicke - like my own defector MP Christian Wakeford - is fucking awful. She'll fit in well in Starmer's Labour Party....... I am genuinely astonished they've welcomed her, even for Starmer this is a new low. which is why i believe the next election more than ever vote for the person you think will be the best constituency mp. not their party im voting helen morgan, shes brilliant. i hold my nose at her party |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 8, 2024 15:04:47 GMT
I am genuinely astonished they've welcomed her, even for Starmer this is a new low. which is why i believe the next election more than ever vote for the person you think will be the best constituency mp. not their party im voting helen morgan, shes brilliant. i hold my nose at her party With Smeeth gone, we have David Williams who took on my late Mum's old ward in Burslem. He's a hard working good local councillor which is why he'll be getting my vote. |
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Post by Veritas on May 8, 2024 15:15:28 GMT
Elphicke - like my own defector MP Christian Wakeford - is fucking awful. She'll fit in well in Starmer's Labour Party....... I am genuinely astonished they've welcomed her, even for Starmer this is a new low. I also am surprised but see this more as an opportunity to attack Sunak than support Labour. Good to see Sunak squirm even more but would rather have seen her do it by resigning and forcing a by-election. I will put up with this as long as she doesn't get put forward as a parliamentary candidate or a member of the Lords. |
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Post by PotteringThrough on May 8, 2024 15:16:40 GMT
I am genuinely astonished they've welcomed her, even for Starmer this is a new low. I also am surprised but see this more as an opportunity to attack Sunak than support Labour. Good to see Sunak squirm even more but would rather have seen her do it by resigning and forcing a by-election. I will put up with this as long as she doesn't get put forward as a parliamentary candidate or a member of the Lords. I believe she’s stepping down at the next election (whenever that might be). She definitely doesn’t seem to fit with Labour values… |
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Post by Gawa on May 8, 2024 15:17:55 GMT
Defections should lead to abdication of the seat. If that MP wants to run again under another party, they should be allowed to (if the party wants them). To join your political rival who are supposed to be anti everything you believe in is bullshit. To accept them is equally bullshit. The whole political system is bullshit. Its just that too many people haven't yet figured that out. I think more people are seeing it which is why parties outside of the main 2 are seeing alot of defectors. All we have known is labour or Tory rule for decades so people are now wanting to vote for change. Whether it makes a difference who knows but at least there is alot more people than in years gone by wanting to vote elsewhere. |
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Post by Gawa on May 8, 2024 15:19:14 GMT
which is why i believe the next election more than ever vote for the person you think will be the best constituency mp. not their party im voting helen morgan, shes brilliant. i hold my nose at her party With Smeeth gone, we have David Williams who took on my late Mum's old ward in Burslem. He's a hard working good local councillor which is why he'll be getting my vote. Huddys not a leftie anymore 👀😜 |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 8, 2024 15:25:22 GMT
With Smeeth gone, we have David Williams who took on my late Mum's old ward in Burslem. He's a hard working good local councillor which is why he'll be getting my vote. Huddys not a leftie anymore 👀😜 Piss off....   |
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Post by salopstick on May 8, 2024 16:41:55 GMT
I am genuinely astonished they've welcomed her, even for Starmer this is a new low. I also am surprised but see this more as an opportunity to attack Sunak than support Labour. Good to see Sunak squirm even more but would rather have seen her do it by resigning and forcing a by-election. I will put up with this as long as she doesn't get put forward as a parliamentary candidate or a member of the Lords. She has not done this just out of principle |
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Post by RedandWhite90 on May 8, 2024 16:45:23 GMT
i dont care about which party but defections do show a lack of scruples again regardless of parties this is a fair statement A Conservative member of Dover District Council says he is "sickened" by the Dover MP's decision to move to the Labour Party. "I'm saddened," Councillor Stephen Mannion tells the PA news agency, "because we gave her a lot of support down here." "A lot of the members of the association were out there week after week campaigning for her. It feels like a kick in the stomach really," he adds. It should trigger an instant by-election. I appreciate Natalie has seen the light, but it's a slap in the face to those who voted her in on a Conservative ticket. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on May 8, 2024 16:47:00 GMT
Elphicke - like my own defector MP Christian Wakeford - is fucking awful. She'll fit in well in Starmer's Labour Party....... Really can't work this one out at all. She is utterly hideous and I've always regarded her as being from the Braverman wing of the party and (almost) as horrible. |
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Post by Gawa on May 8, 2024 16:47:25 GMT
Huddys not a leftie anymore 👀😜 Piss off.... You do need to have a think about what you're voting for. Understandably he's a good Councillor but a very good Councillor would have left labour by now. I'll keep reminding you about what Labour voters are voting for in the mean time 😉 Kind Regards, One of the few lefties left on the oatcake |
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Post by Paul Spencer on May 8, 2024 17:01:04 GMT
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Post by stokeson on May 8, 2024 17:02:14 GMT
Piss off.... You do need to have a think about what you're voting for. Understandably he's a good Councillor but a very good Councillor would have left labour by now. I'll keep reminding you about what Labour voters are voting for in the mean time 😉 Kind Regards, One of the few lefties left on the oatcake Im still a leftie and am voting labour to get the tories out. Its all that matters........... |
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Post by Gawa on May 8, 2024 17:23:45 GMT
You do need to have a think about what you're voting for. Understandably he's a good Councillor but a very good Councillor would have left labour by now. I'll keep reminding you about what Labour voters are voting for in the mean time 😉 Kind Regards, One of the few lefties left on the oatcake Im still a leftie and am voting labour to get the tories out. Its all that matters........... Would you vote Reform get rid of the tories if Reform were the top polling party? I'm a leftie and I'll be voting for left wing parties with left wing policies. The labour party has changed and left wing politicians like Diane Abbott, Jeremy Corbyn, Conor McGinn, Nick Brown and Kate Osamor are no longer welcome. But tory MPs like Christian Wakeford, Natalie Elphicke and Dan Poulter are welcomed with open arms. Doesn't matter how good the candidate is. That's not a left wing party anymore. |
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Post by fullmetaljacket on May 8, 2024 17:42:26 GMT
Awful pmq's from Rishi who with every passing weeks grasps at more and more straws
Publicity stunt given she's not standing at the next election. Probably worth the embarrassment ratio to Rishi.
Some of her stuff about building homes for the homeless sounds good.
Sadly though this is proof there's no conviction politicians any more.
Unless of course you vote loony.
We will combat corruption in public life by taking part in it openly, we will introduce the Board of Bribery who will set standardised rates?. #sleaze for the many not just the few
Vote Loony
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Post by Gawa on May 8, 2024 19:45:05 GMT
Publicity stunt given she's not standing at the next election Sorry mate but this doesn't stand. We can't use the "oh she's not standing at next election" line to try and justify what has happened here. It's a fucking disgrace that a woman with her views was welcomed into the party with open arms - there's no justification for it at all. And she's certainly not done it just to disappear off the earth at the next election and expect nothing in return. It's even worse when you think of the many brilliant Labour members and candidates removed, suspended, banned from standing from the party. And this hateful bigoted woman can walk straight across the commons and be accepted. As Starmer reminds us, "the labour party has changed", and that it has for the worse. |
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