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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 4, 2024 20:55:27 GMT
He's in pretty hot water, it would seem ... Yeh hot water off a ducks back probably No I don't think so, I expect he's probably cacking himself. Normally people making such smears are a lot cleverer about it. If he'd called Corbyn antisemitic, then he could hide behind a claim of it being his *opinion* that he is but he got a little bit over excited on this occasion and he's over stepped the mark, accusing Corbyn of something as a statement of fact, which is a much more serious accusation. I'm no legal expert but I wouldn't be at all surprised if it ends up costing him an awful lot of cash, or at least an extremely embarassing apology, or maybe even both.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 4, 2024 20:57:05 GMT
Yeh hot water off a ducks back probably No I don't think so, I expect he's probably cacking himself. Normally people making such smears are a lot cleverer about it. If he'd called Corbyn antisemitic, then he could hide behind a claim of it being his *opinion* that he is but he got a little bit over excited on this occasion and he's over stepped the mark, accusing Corbyn of something as a statement of fact, which is a much more serious accusation. I'm no legal expert but I wouldn't be at all surprised if it ends up costing him an awful lot of cash, or at least an extremely embarassing apology, or maybe even both. Nige won’t give it a moments thought. He may be force to give an “apology” but really why should he? Free speech and all that
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 4, 2024 21:00:42 GMT
No I don't think so, I expect he's probably cacking himself. Normally people making such smears are a lot cleverer about it. If he'd called Corbyn antisemitic, then he could hide behind a claim of it being his *opinion* that he is but he got a little bit over excited on this occasion and he's over stepped the mark, accusing Corbyn of something as a statement of fact, which is a much more serious accusation. I'm no legal expert but I wouldn't be at all surprised if it ends up costing him an awful lot of cash, or at least an extremely embarassing apology, or maybe even both. Nige won’t give it a moments thought. He may be force to give an “apology” but really why should he? Free speech and all that Free speech doesn't mean you can say anything you like about other people. You'd be fine if Farage had claimed that Corbyn was into pedophilia?
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 4, 2024 21:03:19 GMT
Nige won’t give it a moments thought. He may be force to give an “apology” but really why should he? Free speech and all that Free speech doesn't mean you can say anything you like about other people. You'd be fine if Farage had claimed that Corbyn was into pedophilia? No I wouldn’t but that crosses the line. There is a line as you know and free speech does have some boundaries. For me this doesn’t cross it. Although I respect what you’re saying there and I was perhaps a little brash with my statement
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 4, 2024 22:15:28 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 4, 2024 22:20:39 GMT
Yep that’s us and to think 20 years ago was such a great time. Was thinking about this today. Sad and angry atm
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Post by gawa on Mar 5, 2024 0:03:35 GMT
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Post by wannabee on Mar 5, 2024 0:34:28 GMT
What did Nige say this time? He's in pretty hot water, it would seem ... It's quite amusing to see the Alt-Right doing somersaults on this issue After years expounding the "New World Order" Theory accusing the "Elites" and "Jews" never mind the WEF etc of taking over the World. they are in a quandary as to what position to take. In the clip it's hard to tell what made Nige go "Off Piste" but reverting to his trusted, lie and accuse your nemesis of doing what you having been doing for years, may have backfired spectacularly It may be interesting to see if an astute Journalist can frame a similar question to Trump as essentially that's the Bullshit he's been feeding his Nutjob Followers
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Post by iancransonsknees on Mar 5, 2024 4:00:59 GMT
He's in pretty hot water, it would seem ... It's quite amusing to see the Alt-Right doing somersaults on this issue After years expounding the "New World Order" Theory accusing the "Elites" and "Jews" never mind the WEF etc of taking over the World. they are in a quandary as to what position to take. In the clip it's hard to tell what made Nige go "Off Piste" but reverting to his trusted, lie and accuse your nemesis of doing what you having been doing for years, may have backfired spectacularly It may be interesting to see if an astute Journalist can frame a similar question to Trump as essentially that's the Bullshit he's been feeding his Nutjob Followers You've met Badger then 🤔
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Mar 5, 2024 5:43:39 GMT
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Post by iancransonsknees on Mar 5, 2024 6:00:33 GMT
It's farcical. I have no faith in either party but this just stinks of a scorched earth policy.
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Post by adri2008 on Mar 5, 2024 6:36:13 GMT
It's farcical. I have no faith in either party but this just stinks of a scorched earth policy. Tax cuts are red meat for core Tory supporters whilst blatently being designed to force Labour into being the 'tax raising' party - something which is inevitable anyway if we want functioning public services. This is the problem with Labour's 'promise nothing' strategy - theres going to be zero good will from the electorate as Starmer isn't attempting to sell the benefits of higher taxes. Its based entirely on getting into power rather than actually improving things.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 5, 2024 6:38:14 GMT
It's quite amusing to see the Alt-Right doing somersaults on this issue After years expounding the "New World Order" Theory accusing the "Elites" and "Jews" never mind the WEF etc of taking over the World. they are in a quandary as to what position to take. In the clip it's hard to tell what made Nige go "Off Piste" but reverting to his trusted, lie and accuse your nemesis of doing what you having been doing for years, may have backfired spectacularly It may be interesting to see if an astute Journalist can frame a similar question to Trump as essentially that's the Bullshit he's been feeding his Nutjob Followers You've met Badger then 🤔 He wishes
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Post by cobhamstokey on Mar 5, 2024 8:35:52 GMT
Not sure who it was on Breakfast TV just now but I see he and the Tories are still pushing the 20000 new police officers route. Thankfully Susannah Reid put him straight re the cuts by Ms May.
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Post by wannabee on Mar 5, 2024 11:15:31 GMT
It's farcical. I have no faith in either party but this just stinks of a scorched earth policy. When the Telegraph Headline Article is this, you know something is very awry "Why Britain is ‘literally crumbling’ before our eyes" www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2024/03/05/britains-decrepit-public-services-cope-tax-cuts/I agree Labour are not going to do much different, just switch around some priorities. Can we get our £380M back Mr Rwanda Mad Lizzy was not entirely wrong, the only way out of the endless downward spiral is through growth. Of course she's also part of the Problem as her crazy Trussonomics has added £20Bn per year onto the Debt Servicing. If only there was a way to quickly reverse our falling Trading position in the World
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2024 12:03:48 GMT
It's farcical. I have no faith in either party but this just stinks of a scorched earth policy. Tory’s won’t be happy until a U.S.-based insurance model is set up (which their donors run). It would destroy UK healthcare.
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Post by oggyoggy on Mar 5, 2024 12:09:00 GMT
We are going to get a further 2p reduction to NI. It will cost £10.4bn. Londoners would benefit on average by £608 a year. Those in the north east by £342 a year on average.
For every penny of NI cuts, 46p goes to the richest households and 3p to the poorest.
It is an unfunded tax cut designed to hurt Labour when they come into power.
The gap between tax receipts and demand (nominal domestic spending) has never been higher.
The government is committing self harm on our country to pkay politics.
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Post by adri2008 on Mar 5, 2024 12:30:21 GMT
We are going to get a further 2p reduction to NI. It will cost £10.4bn. Londoners would benefit on average by £608 a year. Those in the north east by £342 a year on average. For every penny of NI cuts, 46p goes to the richest households and 3p to the poorest. It is an unfunded tax cut designed to hurt Labour when they come into power. The gap between tax receipts and demand (nominal domestic spending) has never been higher. The government is committing self harm on our country to pkay politics. A highly toxic legacy awaits the next government. Starmer hasn't helped himself though, he's been busily boxing himself in on spending for the past 2 years so he'll end up with the poisoned chalice and bugger all ability to do anything about it.
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Post by wannabee on Mar 5, 2024 13:57:54 GMT
We are going to get a further 2p reduction to NI. It will cost £10.4bn. Londoners would benefit on average by £608 a year. Those in the north east by £342 a year on average. For every penny of NI cuts, 46p goes to the richest households and 3p to the poorest. It is an unfunded tax cut designed to hurt Labour when they come into power. The gap between tax receipts and demand (nominal domestic spending) has never been higher. The government is committing self harm on our country to pkay politics. Not your main point which is very valid, but you also touch on another extremely important issue GDP is made up of 4 Elements: Private Consumption, Investment, Government Spending and Exports Most people look at the Nominal size of GDP and like in a Dick measuring contest compare its size to other comparable Countries In UK Private Consumption has consistently been at about 63% of GDP The EU Average for Private Consumption is 53%, Germany and France slightly lower What this means that in EU a full 10% more of GDP is made up by a combination of higher Investment, Government Spending - Public Services and Exports. The lower amount of UK Exports versus Imports creates a Trade Deficit which must be financed by Borrowing This is a link to Private Consumption % of GDP for all Countries in the World www.ceicdata.com/en/indicator/united-kingdom/private-consumption--of-nominal-gdpWhat im trying to say is that UK Government needs to stimulate Public and Private Investment, create a Business Environment that other Countries want to buy our goods so that more can be spent on Public Services. Simples.
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Post by gawa on Mar 6, 2024 0:27:49 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Mar 6, 2024 7:01:14 GMT
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Post by henry on Mar 6, 2024 7:20:11 GMT
Would have liked to have seen the tax threshold increased today but at least workers are being thrown a bone with a NI reduction.
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Post by iancransonsknees on Mar 6, 2024 7:20:13 GMT
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Post by essexstokey on Mar 6, 2024 8:37:31 GMT
It's tory con the idiots day 26 tax rises 13 years of rising debt higher mortgages crashing the economy increase in poverty and use of food banks Don't let them buy your vote get these parasites out of power
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Post by essexstokey on Mar 6, 2024 8:38:46 GMT
Maps speculating 1nd nmmay for general election
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Post by Veritas on Mar 6, 2024 9:00:37 GMT
We all know how anti public spending the Tories are, unless of course it's so they don't have to put their hands in their own pockets or is to channel funds to their mates.
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Post by oggyoggy on Mar 6, 2024 9:07:50 GMT
We all know how anti public spending the Tories are, unless of course it's so they don't have to put their hands in their own pockets or is to channel funds to their mates. I still find it unbelievably unfair that every penny of tax the average person pays in their entire lifetime was spent on Boris Johnson’s legal fees to defend him from the accusation that he lied to parliament. He lost the legal battle and yet suffers no personal consequences whatsoever other than not being able to sit as an MP for a few months. Whereas a victim of domestic abuse will have to fund their own legal fees to stop the perpetrator from seeing the children. The system is geared completely wrong.
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Post by gawa on Mar 6, 2024 9:22:05 GMT
It's refreshing to have a PM just like the rest of us that's easy to relate to. I love making sure there's something nice on the table and getting that nice satisfying finish when I make the bed.
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Post by oggyoggy on Mar 6, 2024 9:52:40 GMT
It's refreshing to have a PM just like the rest of us that's easy to relate to. I love making sure there's something nice on the table and getting that nice satisfying finish when I make the bed. Why does he do it!? He is a billionaire. He is never going to cone across as normal or connected to the rest of us!
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Mar 6, 2024 10:07:52 GMT
It's refreshing to have a PM just like the rest of us that's easy to relate to. I love making sure there's something nice on the table and getting that nice satisfying finish when I make the bed. WTAF they were thinking when they decided this was a good idea?
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