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Post by essexstokey on Feb 25, 2024 22:18:31 GMT
Well that's at least one promise he can tick off his to do list! π They really are in trouble atnt they π
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Feb 26, 2024 8:15:03 GMT
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Post by phileetin on Feb 26, 2024 12:53:57 GMT
i must admit that i was wondering what the definition of islamophobia is .
I don't think that the words used by Anderson were Islamophobic , he was stating what i personally believe is obvious in that London hasn't earned its nickname of Londonistan by accident . I would guess that a significant proportion of Londoners were Muslim and probably voted for Khan due to both his ethnicity and political background .
The apparent tolerance of the protesters in support of hamas led palestine and Khans various pronouncements re law and order and social attitudes appear skewed in a certain direction .
Apparently Anderson has been unfairly treated by Sunak in the opinion of " Red Wall " people , whoever they may be ? .....Racist White northerners perhaps ?
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Post by elystokie on Feb 26, 2024 13:07:22 GMT
i must admit that i was wondering what the definition of islamophobia is . I don't think that the words used by Anderson were Islamophobic , he was stating what i personally believe is obvious in that London hasn't earned its nickname of Londonistan by accident . I would guess that a significant proportion of Londoners were Muslim and probably voted for Khan due to both his ethnicity and political background . The apparent tolerance of the protesters in support of hamas led palestine and Khans various pronouncements re law and order and social attitudes appear skewed in a certain direction . Apparently Anderson has been unfairly treated by Sunak in the opinion of " Red Wall " people , whoever they may be ? .....Racist White northerners perhaps ? "Apparently Anderson has been unfairly treated by Sunak in the opinion of " Red Wall " people" Bloody hell that was a quick survey!! Where's it published? My money's on the Daily Mail π
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Feb 26, 2024 13:24:28 GMT
i must admit that i was wondering what the definition of islamophobia is . I don't think that the words used by Anderson were Islamophobic , he was stating what i personally believe is obvious in that London hasn't earned its nickname of Londonistan by accident . I would guess that a significant proportion of Londoners were Muslim and probably voted for Khan due to both his ethnicity and political background . The apparent tolerance of the protesters in support of hamas led palestine and Khans various pronouncements re law and order and social attitudes appear skewed in a certain direction . Apparently Anderson has been unfairly treated by Sunak in the opinion of " Red Wall " people , whoever they may be ? .....Racist White northerners perhaps ? Assuming that is a serious question rather than simply looking to be provocative I will try and answer from my point of view. Islamaphobic struggles for a precise definition but against the criteria of fear of and/or hatred towards those of the Islamic faith I would say Andersons comments were Islamaphobic. London has 15% population who identify as muslim. Anderson produced no evidence that 'they have control' and he also categorised them as 'Islamist' - which I am sure was deliberate - Islamist are islamic fundamentalist - stock from where your ISIS abd your terrorists do come from - not your normal everyday muslims who get along fine with everyone at gyms, schools and workplaces - this was said deliberatly - again without any evidence - to stoke fear and inflame the culture wars. The unfounded tropes about 'Jews' 'controlling' institutions such as the media, business and indeed the world through the likes of the WEF are antisemitic. Unfounded claims that 'Islamists' are controlling London are Islamaphobic. That's my view anyway.
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Post by wannabee on Feb 26, 2024 14:10:01 GMT
i must admit that i was wondering what the definition of islamophobia is . I don't think that the words used by Anderson were Islamophobic , he was stating what i personally believe is obvious in that London hasn't earned its nickname of Londonistan by accident . I would guess that a significant proportion of Londoners were Muslim and probably voted for Khan due to both his ethnicity and political background . The apparent tolerance of the protesters in support of hamas led palestine and Khans various pronouncements re law and order and social attitudes appear skewed in a certain direction . Apparently Anderson has been unfairly treated by Sunak in the opinion of " Red Wall " people , whoever they may be ? .....Racist White northerners perhaps ? How to get so much wrong in so few paragraphs The Londonistan Slur originated from Zac Goldsmith's Smear Campaign for 2016 London Mayor when he attempted to link Khan as the pawn of sinister Islamist forces. Of even more concern but hardly surprising at the time PM Cameron repeated the Slur even so far as linking Khan to to alleged Extremists from the security of the despatch box. When proved incorrect he refused to correct the record The Voters of London had the good sense to ignore the Conservative Smear Campaign and gave Khan the largest ever Mayoral Vote The Protests each week in London and many other Cities up and down UK are in support of the people of Gaza not Hamas If you associate yourself with 30P Lee's remarks that says more about you It was not the "Red Wall" people but the "Red Wall" MPs who voiced concern at 30P Lee's suspension from the Conservative Party as they fear a backlash from Voters in their Constituencies, so you are not alone I suppose.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Feb 26, 2024 14:17:23 GMT
i must admit that i was wondering what the definition of islamophobia is . I don't think that the words used by Anderson were Islamophobic , he was stating what i personally believe is obvious in that London hasn't earned its nickname of Londonistan by accident . I would guess that a significant proportion of Londoners were Muslim and probably voted for Khan due to both his ethnicity and political background . The apparent tolerance of the protesters in support of hamas led palestine and Khans various pronouncements re law and order and social attitudes appear skewed in a certain direction . Apparently Anderson has been unfairly treated by Sunak in the opinion of " Red Wall " people , whoever they may be ? .....Racist White northerners perhaps ? Assuming that is a serious question rather than simply looking to be provocative I will try and answer from my point of view. Islamaphobic struggles for a precise definition but against the criteria of fear of and/or hatred towards those of the Islamic faith I would say Andersons comments were Islamaphobic. London has 15% population who identify as muslim. Anderson produced no evidence that 'they have control' and he also categorised them as 'Islamist' - which I am sure was deliberate - Islamist are islamic fundamentalist - stock from where your ISIS abd your terrorists do come from - not your normal everyday muslims who get along fine with everyone at gyms, schools and workplaces - this was said deliberatly - again without any evidence - to stoke fear and inflame the culture wars. The unfounded tropes about 'Jews' 'controlling' institutions such as the media, business and indeed the world through the likes of the WEF are antisemitic. Unfounded claims that 'Islamists' are controlling London are Islamaphobic. That's my view anyway. You're bang on. And not one Tory has come out and called it as that, they're all dancing round the houses saying what he said was "inappropriate" and "unacceptable" Substitute the word "Islamaphobia" with "antisemitism" and substitute Lee Anderson for Jeremy Corbyn or Dianne Abbott and this would be headlining every news channel and talk show going. Yet the EHRC allowed the Tory Party to investigate themselves and we're meant to take them seriously as in independent body. Laughable.........
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Post by str8outtahampton on Feb 26, 2024 14:55:15 GMT
i must admit that i was wondering what the definition of islamophobia is . I don't think that the words used by Anderson were Islamophobic , he was stating what i personally believe is obvious in that London hasn't earned its nickname of Londonistan by accident . I would guess that a significant proportion of Londoners were Muslim and probably voted for Khan due to both his ethnicity and political background . The apparent tolerance of the protesters in support of hamas led palestine and Khans various pronouncements re law and order and social attitudes appear skewed in a certain direction . Apparently Anderson has been unfairly treated by Sunak in the opinion of " Red Wall " people , whoever they may be ? .....Racist White northerners perhaps ? "Earned its nickname". Oh dear. The bloke above mentions Zac Goldsmith. I wasn't aware of that but it was certainly also parroted by the charming Katie Hopkins.
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Post by gawa on Feb 26, 2024 15:13:42 GMT
he was stating what i personally believe is obvious in that London hasn't earned its nickname of Londonistan by accident . The term Londonistan was being used long before Sadiq Khan. Here's an example from 2014 I found it quite amusing that on a 25 page forum article, they ranted on about our obsession with them.They even seemed to think that they were regarded as something special, rather than a team of con men, managed by a blind manager, and a regular source of three points. Many of them seem to have a sex obsession, too. And hilarious that anyone from the shit hole, Londonistan, can criticise Stoke as an area to live in. Cockney sense of humour, eh? having said that, most of them probably don't live within a thousand miles of the Arsehole ground. In 2014 London Mayor Boris Johnson was half way through his second term of Mayor. So I presume that means Boris Johnson gave London away to his mates? And the islamists had control of Boris and in turn London. So Boris Johnson gave London away to Islamists π«¨
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Post by gawa on Feb 26, 2024 17:50:19 GMT
I see Hoyle has now prevented the SO24 he promised SNP last Wednesday when he broke convention.
Maybe it's just the SNP playing politics again while their leaders family is trapped in Gaza dying.
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Post by fullmetaljacket on Feb 26, 2024 18:43:27 GMT
30p Lee knows exactly what he's doing. Playing to his base ensuring he gets voted in at the next election as independent. Grifters gonna grift.
This was the bloke who tried to/was a labour lad when they kicked him out his ideology suddenly turned Tory blue.
Lee looks after Lee.
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Post by Veritas on Feb 26, 2024 19:07:15 GMT
30p Lee knows exactly what he's doing. Playing to his base ensuring he gets voted in at the next election as independent. Grifters gonna grift. This was the bloke who tried to/was a labour lad when they kicked him out his ideology suddenly turned Tory blue. Lee looks after Lee. I think he knows he is toast at the election, this is aimed more at his post parliament career as a shock jock style broadcaster.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Feb 26, 2024 19:09:26 GMT
30p Lee knows exactly what he's doing. Playing to his base ensuring he gets voted in at the next election as independent. Grifters gonna grift. This was the bloke who tried to/was a labour lad when they kicked him out his ideology suddenly turned Tory blue. Lee looks after Lee. Just like Keir Starmer then. Totally shafts the bloke he wanted in Downing St for years the minute he gets power.
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Post by elystokie on Feb 26, 2024 19:43:42 GMT
30p Lee knows exactly what he's doing. Playing to his base ensuring he gets voted in at the next election as independent. Grifters gonna grift. This was the bloke who tried to/was a labour lad when they kicked him out his ideology suddenly turned Tory blue. Lee looks after Lee. I think he knows he is toast at the election, this is aimed more at his post parliament career as a shock jock style broadcaster. Bound to be room for him in the GBeebies echo chamber with the rest of them.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Feb 26, 2024 20:14:29 GMT
i must admit that i was wondering what the definition of islamophobia is . I don't think that the words used by Anderson were Islamophobic , he was stating what i personally believe is obvious in that London hasn't earned its nickname of Londonistan by accident . I would guess that a significant proportion of Londoners were Muslim and probably voted for Khan due to both his ethnicity and political background . The apparent tolerance of the protesters in support of hamas led palestine and Khans various pronouncements re law and order and social attitudes appear skewed in a certain direction . Apparently Anderson has been unfairly treated by Sunak in the opinion of " Red Wall " people , whoever they may be ? .....Racist White northerners perhaps ? "Apparently Anderson has been unfairly treated by Sunak in the opinion of " Red Wall " people" Bloody hell that was a quick survey!! Where's it published? My money's on the Daily Mail π I mean I think you'd be pretty naive to think the majority of red wall voters wouldn't resonate more with Lee Anderson than Sadiq Khan.
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Post by elystokie on Feb 26, 2024 20:21:09 GMT
"Apparently Anderson has been unfairly treated by Sunak in the opinion of " Red Wall " people" Bloody hell that was a quick survey!! Where's it published? My money's on the Daily Mail π I mean I think you'd be pretty naive to think the majority of red wall voters wouldn't resonate more with Lee Anderson than Sadiq Khan. Ah, now I get it,the famous rossi pollsters are back in the game, it's been a while π
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Feb 26, 2024 20:23:58 GMT
I mean I think you'd be pretty naive to think the majority of red wall voters wouldn't resonate more with Lee Anderson than Sadiq Khan. Ah, now I get it,the famous rossi pollsters are back in the game, it's been a while π What do you think? Do you think red wall voters would resonate more with the views of Sadiq Khan or Lee Anderson?
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Post by elystokie on Feb 26, 2024 20:31:42 GMT
Ah, now I get it,the famous rossi pollsters are back in the game, it's been a while π What do you think? Do you think red wall voters would resonate more with the views of Sadiq Khan or Lee Anderson? I don't have my own team if pollsters unfortunately. Do I think large swathes of otherwise reasonable people think Khan is having his strings pulled by Islamic terrorists? I'd guess it's just under half of those that read the Daily Mail π
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Feb 26, 2024 20:40:03 GMT
What do you think? Do you think red wall voters would resonate more with the views of Sadiq Khan or Lee Anderson? I don't have my own team if pollsters unfortunately. Do I think large swathes of otherwise reasonable people think Khan is having his strings pulled by Islamic terrorists? I'd guess it's just under half of those that read the Daily Mail π I thought the majority of brexit voters (ie the overwhelming majority of red wall voters) were "unreasonable" to you so surely that means there is a strong chance the majority of these northern, racist, brexit voting neanderthals might side with Lee Anderson? π
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Post by elystokie on Feb 26, 2024 20:47:23 GMT
I don't have my own team if pollsters unfortunately. Do I think large swathes of otherwise reasonable people think Khan is having his strings pulled by Islamic terrorists? I'd guess it's just under half of those that read the Daily Mail π I thought the majority of brexit voters (ie the overwhelming majority of red wall voters) were "unreasonable" to you so surely that means there is a strong chance the majority of these northern, racist, brexit voting neanderthals might side with Lee Anderson? π Would you point me to where I've said the majority of Brexit voters were unreasonable, or that they were racist or that they are neanderthals if you'd be so kind? Or are you under the impression that one of your pollsters has canvassed me? Bad news, it wasn't me they spoke to π That's not to say Brexit wasn't a stupid idea, it was, unfortunately at that point enough people believed the Liar King, to be fair he hadn't fully expanded his repertoire at that point. π€
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Feb 26, 2024 21:32:36 GMT
I thought the majority of brexit voters (ie the overwhelming majority of red wall voters) were "unreasonable" to you so surely that means there is a strong chance the majority of these northern, racist, brexit voting neanderthals might side with Lee Anderson? π Would you point me to where I've said the majority of Brexit voters were unreasonable, or that they were racist or that they are neanderthals if you'd be so kind? Or are you under the impression that one of your pollsters has canvassed me? Bad news, it wasn't me they spoke to π That's not to say Brexit wasn't a stupid idea, it was, unfortunately at that point enough people believed the Liar King, to be fair he hadn't fully expanded his repertoire at that point. π€ Oh well, if nothing else I'm glad we've confirmed that you think Brexit voters are completely reasonable. We agree. π
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Post by elystokie on Feb 26, 2024 21:43:02 GMT
Would you point me to where I've said the majority of Brexit voters were unreasonable, or that they were racist or that they are neanderthals if you'd be so kind? Or are you under the impression that one of your pollsters has canvassed me? Bad news, it wasn't me they spoke to π That's not to say Brexit wasn't a stupid idea, it was, unfortunately at that point enough people believed the Liar King, to be fair he hadn't fully expanded his repertoire at that point. π€ Oh well, if nothing else I'm glad we've confirmed that you think Brexit voters are completely reasonable. We agree. π Indeed π We've also confirmed that you made shit up and attributed it to me π
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Feb 26, 2024 21:57:53 GMT
Oh well, if nothing else I'm glad we've confirmed that you think Brexit voters are completely reasonable. We agree. π Indeed π We've also confirmed that you made shit up and attributed it to me π Ha! Rich coming from you. A poster infamous for making up shit and attributing it incorrectly. If you actually re read my post, you'd see I haven't claimed you've said anything. In fact the only "attributing" was a suggestion that you felt Brexit voters were unreasonable, which given you've spent the last 8 years on here berating Brexit and it's supporters, I don't think it's that unreasonable to suggest you think Brexit voters are "unreasonable". Would you not agree?
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Post by elystokie on Feb 26, 2024 22:13:56 GMT
Indeed π We've also confirmed that you made shit up and attributed it to me π Ha! Rich coming from you. A poster infamous for making up shit and attributing it incorrectly. If you actually re read my post, you'd see I haven't claimed you've said anything. In fact the only "attributing" was a suggestion that you felt Brexit voters were unreasonable, which given you've spent the last 8 years on here berating Brexit and it's supporters, I don't think it's that unreasonable to suggest you think Brexit voters are "unreasonable". Would you not agree? No I don't. I understand why the people I know voted Brexit, they believed the Liar King, to be fair him and Dom were quite convincing at the time. I wonder how many who believed them at the time would do so again tho π€ Anyhoo, that's all in the past, moving forward, will you be getting behind the all new Thick Liz pop cons? π
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Post by wannabee on Feb 26, 2024 22:33:42 GMT
I don't have my own team if pollsters unfortunately. Do I think large swathes of otherwise reasonable people think Khan is having his strings pulled by Islamic terrorists? I'd guess it's just under half of those that read the Daily Mail π I thought the majority of brexit voters (ie the overwhelming majority of red wall voters) were "unreasonable" to you so surely that means there is a strong chance the majority of these northern, racist, brexit voting neanderthals might side with Lee Anderson? π Unlikely because they're also fickle and regret their decision www.statista.com/statistics/987347/brexit-opinion-poll/Sign Up to GB News if you want to see/hear more of 30P Lee's views
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Feb 26, 2024 22:34:30 GMT
Ha! Rich coming from you. A poster infamous for making up shit and attributing it incorrectly. If you actually re read my post, you'd see I haven't claimed you've said anything. In fact the only "attributing" was a suggestion that you felt Brexit voters were unreasonable, which given you've spent the last 8 years on here berating Brexit and it's supporters, I don't think it's that unreasonable to suggest you think Brexit voters are "unreasonable". Would you not agree? No I don't. I understand why the people I know voted Brexit, they believed the Liar King, to be fair him and Dom were quite convincing at the time. I wonder how many who believed them at the time would do so again tho π€ Anyhoo, that's all in the past, moving forward, will you be getting behind the all new Thick Liz pop cons? π No, if you read my posts you'd know that despite my support for the ideas proposed in the budget, I couldn't stand Truss or any of the hapless candidates in that shambolic leadership contest. None of them have a clue what actual Conservatism is. Are you going to be getting behind Starmageddon, Davey's dumbos or Greta's green psychos? π
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Feb 26, 2024 22:40:52 GMT
I thought the majority of brexit voters (ie the overwhelming majority of red wall voters) were "unreasonable" to you so surely that means there is a strong chance the majority of these northern, racist, brexit voting neanderthals might side with Lee Anderson? π Unlikely because they're also fickle and regret their decision www.statista.com/statistics/987347/brexit-opinion-poll/Sign Up to GB News if you want to see/hear more of 30P Lee's views Ahh not this old chestnut again. Exactly what remainers claimed prior to the 2019 election. What happened? π Jo Swinson leader of the Remain Party lost her seat in catastrophic fashion to an unknown in her mid 20s and the soft Brexit/pro EU party got totally obliterated. Starmer hasn't gone near the Brexit debate because he knows what would happen.
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Post by elystokie on Feb 26, 2024 22:43:33 GMT
No I don't. I understand why the people I know voted Brexit, they believed the Liar King, to be fair him and Dom were quite convincing at the time. I wonder how many who believed them at the time would do so again tho π€ Anyhoo, that's all in the past, moving forward, will you be getting behind the all new Thick Liz pop cons? π No, if you read my posts you'd know that despite my support for the ideas proposed in the budget, I couldn't stand Truss or any of the hapless candidates in that shambolic leadership contest. None of them have a clue what actual Conservatism is. Are you going to be getting behind Starmageddon, Davey's dumbos or Greta's green psychos? π Undecided as yet, Starmer really hasn't impressed me much, too much of a Tory lite, but I may have to grit my teeth if I think its the best way to get the current corrupt charlatans out. Having said that I'd probably vote green if there was a candidate in my area.
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Post by wannabee on Feb 26, 2024 22:44:48 GMT
No I don't. I understand why the people I know voted Brexit, they believed the Liar King, to be fair him and Dom were quite convincing at the time. I wonder how many who believed them at the time would do so again tho π€ Anyhoo, that's all in the past, moving forward, will you be getting behind the all new Thick Liz pop cons? π No, if you read my posts you'd know that despite my support for the ideas proposed in the budget, I couldn't stand Truss or any of the hapless candidates in that shambolic leadership contest. None of them have a clue what actual Conservatism is. Are you going to be getting behind Starmageddon, Davey's dumbos or Greta's green psychos? π WTAF are you trying to say now, you said, paraphrased that Lizzy's budget was the greatest thing since Sliced Bread I can quite understand why you are now trying to distance yourself from that most ignorant of Statements
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Post by oggyoggy on Feb 26, 2024 22:46:44 GMT
Ah, now I get it,the famous rossi pollsters are back in the game, it's been a while π What do you think? Do you think red wall voters would resonate more with the views of Sadiq Khan or Lee Anderson? It depends if they are thick racists. If so, they will love Andersonβs views.
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