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Post by gawa on Feb 7, 2024 13:15:33 GMT
Tone deaf is putting it mildly...... Let's not forget this is a child who was murdered too. This conservative party is truly and utterly disgusting.
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Post by oggyoggy on Feb 7, 2024 14:06:55 GMT
Tone deaf is putting it mildly...... Let's not forget this is a child who was murdered too. This conservative party is truly and utterly disgusting. I cannot quite believe how low this tory party is taking politics. I don’t think even Boris Johnson would have gone that low. Sunak has absolutely no compassion or care for the people in this country. Starmer’s reply was excellent because it showed that he is a much better human being than Sunak. There is a chasm between the two leaders in terms of empathy, professionalism and morality, sadly not a similar sized chasm between their policies.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Feb 7, 2024 14:31:31 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Feb 7, 2024 19:25:22 GMT
What an absolute liar.
Did they really need even more money?
The thing is about these wankers, is that it's in their dna and they just can't help themselves, greed hasn't eaten their soul.
Go straight to jail, do not pass Go ...
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Feb 7, 2024 21:38:34 GMT
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Post by 828492 on Feb 7, 2024 22:35:13 GMT
Does anyone else think that in these days of ‘modified’ internet postings it was not very clever of Richy Sunk to post a propaganda broadcast of him standing by a flip chart?.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Feb 7, 2024 22:47:11 GMT
Hopefully the BBC is turning ...
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Post by wagsastokie on Feb 7, 2024 23:19:30 GMT
Tone deaf is putting it mildly...... Let's not forget this is a child who was murdered too. This conservative party is truly and utterly disgusting. Just as a matter of fact the poor woman wasn’t actually in the chamber when the flippant remake was made And to be honest starmer is actually struggling to describe what a woman actually is
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Post by Paul Spencer on Feb 7, 2024 23:32:21 GMT
Let's not forget this is a child who was murdered too. This conservative party is truly and utterly disgusting. Just as a matter of fact the poor woman wasn’t actually in the chamber when the flippant remake was made. As far as Sunak was aware, she was.
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Post by chiprockets on Feb 7, 2024 23:45:50 GMT
Does anyone else think that in these days of ‘modified’ internet postings it was not very clever of Richy Sunk to post a propaganda broadcast of him standing by a flip chart?.
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Post by chiprockets on Feb 7, 2024 23:48:48 GMT
Let's not forget this is a child who was murdered too. This conservative party is truly and utterly disgusting. Just as a matter of fact the poor woman wasn’t actually in the chamber when the flippant remake was made And to be honest starmer is actually struggling to describe what a woman actually is Ah it’s okay then
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Post by gawa on Feb 8, 2024 1:54:03 GMT
Let's not forget this is a child who was murdered too. This conservative party is truly and utterly disgusting. Just as a matter of fact the poor woman wasn’t actually in the chamber when the flippant remake was made And to be honest starmer is actually struggling to describe what a woman actually is I was watching it and whether she was there or not, sunak was made aware of her presence before commenting. I just don't think it's the kind of thing to say around a mother who's child was murdered and being different may have made them an easier target too. The whole define a woman thing doesn't really affect me. Like if Bob says a woman can have a dick but Dave says they can't. And if Bob has a better plan to run the country then his thoughts on women's dicks wouldn't really put me off. I'd prefer rather than the endless "but can you define a woman?" rhetoric that they'd actually debate real issues related to it. Are children exposed to it too young? How to make toilets and changing rooms work for everyone as many understandebly may be uncomfortable such as those with kids. How much of it or in which circumstances should it be funded by nhs Etc..
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Post by essexstokey on Feb 8, 2024 6:28:06 GMT
It's a typical tory trick lose an argument turn to personal abuse this time at pmqs it backfired shows how evil the torie thieves really are
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Post by knype on Feb 8, 2024 6:47:30 GMT
Just as a matter of fact the poor woman wasn’t actually in the chamber when the flippant remake was made. As far as Sunak was aware, she was. So she wasn't in the chamber?
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Post by oggyoggy on Feb 8, 2024 6:58:30 GMT
As far as Sunak was aware, she was. So she wasn't in the chamber? No. Neither was the child’s father, but he has called for Sunak to apologise. Any human with any compassion would apologise. Jokes about transgender people for political point scoring when one has just been murdered partly for being transgender is not what I want from the leader of this country. It shows a complete lack of empathy and respect. It exposes what Sunak thinks about us little people. He has the same lack of empathy and compassion for the poor (all 12million of them) and for anyone other than himself. He is a disgrace and so is anyone who gives him their vote.
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Post by thisisouryear on Feb 8, 2024 6:59:19 GMT
Let's not forget this is a child who was murdered too. This conservative party is truly and utterly disgusting. Just as a matter of fact the poor woman wasn’t actually in the chamber when the flippant remake was made And to be honest starmer is actually struggling to describe what a woman actually is Or he's just a politician that wants to represent everyone whoever they are and whoever they want to be and chooses not to offend people. Sunak is just using people as pawns in his game to make Starmer look bad. I really couldn't give a toss what Starmer's view of what a woman is, it's not going to affect my day to day life is it. It's just pointless point scoring and what for? The Tories have nothing left to offer so choose to try and turn people against eachother.
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Post by knype on Feb 8, 2024 7:18:58 GMT
So she wasn't in the chamber? No. Neither was the child’s father, but he has called for Sunak to apologise. Any human with any compassion would apologise. Jokes about transgender people for political point scoring when one has just been murdered partly for being transgender is not what I want from the leader of this country. It shows a complete lack of empathy and respect. It exposes what Sunak thinks about us little people. He has the same lack of empathy and compassion for the poor (all 12million of them) and for anyone other than himself. He is a disgrace and so is anyone who gives him their vote. Was it a joke or was it a dig at Starmer and his views on the subject?
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Post by oggyoggy on Feb 8, 2024 7:26:35 GMT
No. Neither was the child’s father, but he has called for Sunak to apologise. Any human with any compassion would apologise. Jokes about transgender people for political point scoring when one has just been murdered partly for being transgender is not what I want from the leader of this country. It shows a complete lack of empathy and respect. It exposes what Sunak thinks about us little people. He has the same lack of empathy and compassion for the poor (all 12million of them) and for anyone other than himself. He is a disgrace and so is anyone who gives him their vote. Was it a joke or was it a dig at Starmer and his views on the subject? It was a joke which was a dig at Starmer, but at the expense of people like the murdered child who was murdered because of being transgender, made to an audience which the PM knew included that murdered child’s mother. I imagine the murdered child suffered many similar jokes at her expense. Our PM setting a terrible example. Do you think that the PM was right to make a very public political joke at the expense of a murdered child in front of the mother and then not apologise?
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Post by knype on Feb 8, 2024 7:32:34 GMT
Was it a joke or was it a dig at Starmer and his views on the subject? It was a joke which was a dig at Starmer, but at the expense of people like the murdered child who was murdered because of being transgender, made to an audience which the PM knew included that murdered child’s mother. I imagine the murdered child suffered many similar jokes at her expense. Our PM setting a terrible example. Do you think that the PM was right to make a very public political joke at the expense of a murdered child in front of the mother and then not apologise? He has been saying the same thing numerous times ever since Starmer stated that a woman can have a penis?
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Post by oggyoggy on Feb 8, 2024 7:49:30 GMT
It was a joke which was a dig at Starmer, but at the expense of people like the murdered child who was murdered because of being transgender, made to an audience which the PM knew included that murdered child’s mother. I imagine the murdered child suffered many similar jokes at her expense. Our PM setting a terrible example. Do you think that the PM was right to make a very public political joke at the expense of a murdered child in front of the mother and then not apologise? He has been saying the same thing numerous times ever since Starmer stated that a woman can have a penis? I don’t know. Do you think using transgender people as the butt of your joke for political point scoring in front of the mother of a murdered transgender child (murdered because of gender) is compassionate, empathetic and the type of behaviour we seek in our leaders?
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Post by knype on Feb 8, 2024 9:36:14 GMT
He has been saying the same thing numerous times ever since Starmer stated that a woman can have a penis? I don’t know. Do you think using transgender people as the butt of your joke for political point scoring in front of the mother of a murdered transgender child (murdered because of gender) is compassionate, empathetic and the type of behaviour we seek in our leaders? Was Brianna joked about?
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Post by 828492 on Feb 8, 2024 9:36:23 GMT
No. Neither was the child’s father, but he has called for Sunak to apologise. Any human with any compassion would apologise. Jokes about transgender people for political point scoring when one has just been murdered partly for being transgender is not what I want from the leader of this country. It shows a complete lack of empathy and respect. It exposes what Sunak thinks about us little people. He has the same lack of empathy and compassion for the poor (all 12million of them) and for anyone other than himself. He is a disgrace and so is anyone who gives him their vote. Was it a joke or was it a dig at Starmer and his views on the subject? So this is how the Prime Minister who promised, ‘integrity, professionalism, and accountability’ prepares for PMQs. He gets his SPADS write snide comments so that he does not have to give answers to the questions he is asked. And once he has learned the lines he is not capable of thinking on his feet to change his script. That looks like nought out of three for his big promises.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Feb 8, 2024 10:01:59 GMT
As far as Sunak was aware, she was. So she wasn't in the chamber? You're going to have to explain what point you're trying to make knype. What is the relevance of whether she was or she wasn't, if, at the time, Sunak believed that she was? It's about as relevant as saying that Sunak wasn't wearing blue socks at the time.
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Post by gawa on Feb 8, 2024 10:07:55 GMT
So she wasn't in the chamber? You're going to have to explain what point you're trying to make knype. What is the relevance of whether she was or she wasn't, if, at the time, Sunak believed that she was? It's about as relevant as saying that Sunak wasn't wearing blue socks at the time. But did he know he wasn't wearing blue socks at the time? And were both blue socks missing or did he have one blue sock on?
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Post by lordb on Feb 8, 2024 10:24:48 GMT
No. Neither was the child’s father, but he has called for Sunak to apologise. Any human with any compassion would apologise. Jokes about transgender people for political point scoring when one has just been murdered partly for being transgender is not what I want from the leader of this country. It shows a complete lack of empathy and respect. It exposes what Sunak thinks about us little people. He has the same lack of empathy and compassion for the poor (all 12million of them) and for anyone other than himself. He is a disgrace and so is anyone who gives him their vote. Was it a joke or was it a dig at Starmer and his views on the subject? It was, at best, an embarrassment to us all PMqs is a pantomime farce but Sunak really should apologise
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Post by wannabee on Feb 8, 2024 11:10:03 GMT
It was a joke which was a dig at Starmer, but at the expense of people like the murdered child who was murdered because of being transgender, made to an audience which the PM knew included that murdered child’s mother. I imagine the murdered child suffered many similar jokes at her expense. Our PM setting a terrible example. Do you think that the PM was right to make a very public political joke at the expense of a murdered child in front of the mother and then not apologise? He has been saying the same thing numerous times ever since Starmer stated that a woman can have a penis? Why do you think whether Girls and Women may have a Penis is such an important issue? As we are talking about the Brianna Murder. While the Female Jenkinson's motivation was Sadistic Evil. In handing down the sentences, Justice Yip described the murder as "sadistic in nature" and, referring to Ratcliffe, "where a secondary motive was hostility towards Ghey because of her transgender identity" Do you think Rishi has a hostility towards Transgender People? Not saying he or anyone else who had those feelings would act upon it Starmer said 99.9% of Women don't have a Penis news.sky.com/story/keir-starmer-says-99-9-of-women-havent-got-a-penis-as-he-faces-questions-over-trans-rights-12848438This is factually correct according to the 2021 Census A total of 262,000 people (0.5%) answered “No”, indicating that their gender identity was different from their sex registered at birth. Within this group: 118,000 (0.24%) answered “No” but did not provide a write-in response 48,000 (0.10%) identified as a trans man 48,000 (0.10%) identified as a trans woman
30,000 (0.06%) identified as non-binary 18,000 (0.04%) wrote in a different gender identity www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/culturalidentity/genderidentity/bulletins/genderidentityenglandandwales/census2021Its rather curious that Rishi focuses on 0.1% of the Population when asked a serious question about the State of the Economy
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Post by chiprockets on Feb 8, 2024 11:14:02 GMT
So she wasn't in the chamber? You're going to have to explain what point you're trying to make knype. What is the relevance of whether she was or she wasn't, if, at the time, Sunak believed that she was? It's about as relevant as saying that Sunak wasn't wearing blue socks at the time. He hasn’t got one as usual I await a new thread about people on here calling him thick In fact I might give it a bump for posterity
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2024 11:43:02 GMT
You're going to have to explain what point you're trying to make knype. What is the relevance of whether she was or she wasn't, if, at the time, Sunak believed that she was? It's about as relevant as saying that Sunak wasn't wearing blue socks at the time. But did he know he wasn't wearing blue socks at the time? And were both blue socks missing or did he have one blue sock on? Were they originally blue socks or did they change color in the wash?
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Post by gawa on Feb 8, 2024 12:20:56 GMT
But did he know he wasn't wearing blue socks at the time? And were both blue socks missing or did he have one blue sock on? Were they originally blue socks or did they change color in the wash? Sounds like you can't define a blue sock mate. Everyone knows blue socks have a blue colour. You can't just change the colour as it pleases you. It's like calling a blue sock a purple sock.
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Post by knype on Feb 8, 2024 12:28:41 GMT
So she wasn't in the chamber? You're going to have to explain what point you're trying to make knype. What is the relevance of whether she was or she wasn't, if, at the time, Sunak believed that she was? It's about as relevant as saying that Sunak wasn't wearing blue socks at the time. Did Sunak just ask Starmer about his definition of a woman?
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