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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jan 24, 2024 10:55:37 GMT
Absolute joke and yet still no windfall taxes while these private companies break records for profit. And a massive inflation driver too....
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Post by gawa on Jan 24, 2024 12:39:34 GMT
Trouble in paradise for this reform mp?
Edit: he's not reform he actually joined Lozza Fox under reclaim and has since left. Apologies - both parties sound similar so you can understand the confusion.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Jan 24, 2024 20:14:47 GMT
I've no idea what they stand for, do you? One was a member of the Liberal Democrats and changes their tune more time than a dodgy record player and the other has barely ever voiced his stance on any number of issues. Certainly not conservative/right of centre/right wing if that's your question. This idea that there is a "right of the Conservative Party" is comical. They would all betray their principles and alleged conservative values if it meant climbing the greasy poll - excuse the pun. š Many on the left can't distinguish between incompetence and actual conservative policies. We've seen barely anything of the latter in decades. What are actual conservative policies? You may as well educate us. I've been asked that at least three times (pretty sure at least once by you?) on this thread and answered comprehensively. I'm not doing it again. Respectfully Gawa, for someone who likes politics as much as you, id expect you'd at least have a broad understanding of what conservative policies look like. As a clue, they don't typically involve an open border policy, green agenda, total neglect of law and order, destruction of cultural identity, high taxation and dropping a nuclear bomb on the economy. Throw in a CCP esc authoritarian shutting down of society for a largely non fatal virus and you've got your modern day Conservative Party. Hope that helps educate you.
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Post by gawa on Jan 24, 2024 20:31:13 GMT
What are actual conservative policies? You may as well educate us. I've been asked that at least three times (pretty sure at least once by you?) on this thread and answered comprehensively. I'm not doing it again. Respectfully Gawa, for someone who likes politics as much as you, id expect you'd at least have a broad understanding of what conservative policies look like. As a clue, they don't typically involve an open border policy, green agenda, total neglect of law and order, destruction of cultural identity, high taxation and dropping a nuclear bomb on the economy. Throw in a CCP esc authoritarian shutting down of society for a largely non fatal virus and you've got your modern day Conservative Party. Hope that helps educate you. I maybe have in the past but not recently so that's why I was asking as I'm not sure what is considered conservative values these days. I don't think you can blame me for asking considering most of the things in your last got worse under the last 5(?) Conservative PMs. So from the outside looking in I just see self serving politicians mostly born into power and money and mostly interested in keeping power and money in those same places with the odd divisive policy tabled so they can take a side and get some backing but ultimately not tackle said policy as promised as it was mainly tabled to stay in power. Hopefully reform get a few seats in the next election so we say a different take and perspective. There's a shocking lack of working class people in right wing parties which I think is a fundamental problem as it feels like the working class vote gets taken for granted. Pretty sure the south east has one of the lowest amounts of asylum seekers despite most of them rocking up on their shores. They'll tackle immigration concerns for their wealthy voters and throw them into the towns of working class areas. Right wing politics needs working class representation in my opinion. Not private school tossers who boast about having no working class friends.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Jan 24, 2024 20:40:18 GMT
I've been asked that at least three times (pretty sure at least once by you?) on this thread and answered comprehensively. I'm not doing it again. Respectfully Gawa, for someone who likes politics as much as you, id expect you'd at least have a broad understanding of what conservative policies look like. As a clue, they don't typically involve an open border policy, green agenda, total neglect of law and order, destruction of cultural identity, high taxation and dropping a nuclear bomb on the economy. Throw in a CCP esc authoritarian shutting down of society for a largely non fatal virus and you've got your modern day Conservative Party. Hope that helps educate you. I maybe have in the past but not recently so that's why I was asking as I'm not sure what is considered conservative values these days. I don't think you can blame me for asking considering most of the things in your last got worse under the last 5(?) Conservative PMs. So from the outside looking in I just see self serving politicians mostly born into power and money and mostly interested in keeping power and money in those same places with the odd divisive policy tabled so they can take a side and get some backing but ultimately not tackle said policy as promised as it was mainly tabled to stay in power. Hopefully reform get a few seats in the next election so we say a different take and perspective. There's a shocking lack of working class people in right wing parties which I think is a fundamental problem as it feels like the working class vote gets taken for granted. Pretty sure the south east has one of the lowest amounts of asylum seekers despite most of them rocking up on their shores. They'll tackle immigration concerns for their wealthy voters and throw them into the towns of working class areas. Right wing politics needs working class representation in my opinion. Not private school tossers who boast about having no working class friends. Completely agree mate.
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Post by wannabee on Jan 24, 2024 21:06:36 GMT
Trouble in paradise for this reform mp? Edit: he's not reform he actually joined Lozza Fox under reclaim and has since left. Apologies - both parties sound similar so you can understand the confusion. Epic Fail Was he called as an expert witness š
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Post by wannabee on Jan 24, 2024 21:15:38 GMT
What are actual conservative policies? You may as well educate us. I've been asked that at least three times (pretty sure at least once by you?) on this thread and answered comprehensively. I'm not doing it again. Respectfully Gawa, for someone who likes politics as much as you, id expect you'd at least have a broad understanding of what conservative policies look like. As a clue, they don't typically involve an open border policy, green agenda, total neglect of law and order, destruction of cultural identity, high taxation and dropping a nuclear bomb on the economy. Throw in a CCP esc authoritarian shutting down of society for a largely non fatal virus and you've got your modern day Conservative Party. Hope that helps educate you. That may be what it says on the tin, but the overarching consideration is, put your snout in the trough and accumulate as much money as possible. Next best option, divert to your chums and get backhanders.
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Post by foghornsgleghorn on Jan 24, 2024 21:56:10 GMT
I've been asked that at least three times (pretty sure at least once by you?) on this thread and answered comprehensively. I'm not doing it again. Respectfully Gawa, for someone who likes politics as much as you, id expect you'd at least have a broad understanding of what conservative policies look like. As a clue, they don't typically involve an open border policy, green agenda, total neglect of law and order, destruction of cultural identity, high taxation and dropping a nuclear bomb on the economy. Throw in a CCP esc authoritarian shutting down of society for a largely non fatal virus and you've got your modern day Conservative Party. Hope that helps educate you. Hopefully reform get a few seats in the next election so we say a different take and perspective. There's a shocking lack of working class people in right wing parties which I think is a fundamental problem as it feels like the working class vote gets taken for granted. Pretty sure the south east has one of the lowest amounts of asylum seekers despite most of them rocking up on their shores. They'll tackle immigration concerns for their wealthy voters and throw them into the towns of working class areas. Right wing politics needs working class representation in my opinion. Not private school tossers who boast about having no working class friends. Who in Reform do you think is going to give that working class representation ? Tice?.....ex-Tory made his fortune in real estate? Habib? .......ex-Tory and Lehman Brothers ? Farage? .......ex-Tory and made his money in the city They are so far from the working class but will happily try and convince them that they are different. Any self-respecting working class person will see them as the self-serving wankers they truly are and fuck them off into oblivion.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Jan 24, 2024 22:14:37 GMT
Hopefully reform get a few seats in the next election so we say a different take and perspective. There's a shocking lack of working class people in right wing parties which I think is a fundamental problem as it feels like the working class vote gets taken for granted. Pretty sure the south east has one of the lowest amounts of asylum seekers despite most of them rocking up on their shores. They'll tackle immigration concerns for their wealthy voters and throw them into the towns of working class areas. Right wing politics needs working class representation in my opinion. Not private school tossers who boast about having no working class friends. Who in Reform do you think is going to give that working class representation ? Tice?.....ex-Tory made his fortune in real estate?Ā Habib? .......ex-Tory and Lehman Brothers ? Farage? .......ex-Tory and made his money in the city They are so far from the working class but will happily try and convince them that they are different. Any self-respecting working class person will see them as the self-serving wankers they truly are and fuck them off into oblivion.Ā That's a valid point re their background. But I'm not sure that dedicating a huge chunk of your life to a party that most would give zero chance of winning a seat is "self-serving". You could level all the same stuff at the vast majority of Labour mp's. Barely any of them truly understand what it means to be below the poverty line.
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Post by foghornsgleghorn on Jan 24, 2024 22:24:25 GMT
Who in Reform do you think is going to give that working class representation ? Tice?.....ex-Tory made his fortune in real estate? Habib? .......ex-Tory and Lehman Brothers ? Farage? .......ex-Tory and made his money in the city They are so far from the working class but will happily try and convince them that they are different. Any self-respecting working class person will see them as the self-serving wankers they truly are and fuck them off into oblivion. You could level all the same stuff at the vast majority of Labour mp's. Barely any of them truly understand what it means to be below the poverty line. I completely agree that the political class is largely made up of people several degrees separated from the reality experienced by a significant portion of the population.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 24, 2024 22:41:19 GMT
Trouble in paradise for this reform mp? Edit: he's not reform he actually joined Lozza Fox under reclaim and has since left. Apologies - both parties sound similar so you can understand the confusion. Fuckin hell, his missus ain't holding back is she?! š
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Post by gawa on Jan 25, 2024 13:26:42 GMT
Well said Nige. Don't forgot to catch pints at 7pm tonight with big nige on gb news lads.
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Post by essexstokey on Jan 25, 2024 14:35:47 GMT
A tory vote is a waisted vote šš
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2024 14:37:47 GMT
A tory vote is a waisted vote šš Yeah, the fat gits š. I think itād be pants as well.
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Post by gawa on Jan 25, 2024 14:58:53 GMT
Who said there's no such thing as an honest politician?
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Post by stiggerstackle on Jan 25, 2024 15:09:00 GMT
Who said there's no such thing as an honest politician? Why the fuck should she have to apologise? Sounds pretty much spot on!
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Post by elystokie on Jan 25, 2024 15:11:40 GMT
Who said there's no such thing as an honest politician? She should get an OBE for that š
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 25, 2024 15:28:35 GMT
Who said there's no such thing as an honest politician? To be fair, I love a nice bar of marzipan! š
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Jan 25, 2024 15:58:50 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 25, 2024 17:39:51 GMT
Well said Nige. Don't forgot to catch pints at 7pm tonight with big nige on gb news lads. Oi! You know the drill
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 25, 2024 19:53:47 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 25, 2024 20:09:20 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jan 25, 2024 22:10:31 GMT
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Post by essexstokey on Jan 25, 2024 22:40:59 GMT
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Post by maxplonk on Jan 27, 2024 16:02:16 GMT
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Post by essexstokey on Jan 28, 2024 10:03:51 GMT
GONT LET IT HAPPEN
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jan 29, 2024 8:32:15 GMT
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Post by oggyoggy on Jan 30, 2024 7:39:57 GMT
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Post by essexstokey on Jan 30, 2024 7:46:52 GMT
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Post by wagsastokie on Jan 30, 2024 8:41:36 GMT
My heart bleeds for the total tosser Iād given up all hope of getting shot of him And then he comes out with this bullshit
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