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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Nov 9, 2023 14:15:14 GMT
Braverman could well be gone by tea time.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Nov 9, 2023 14:15:15 GMT
Can we be clear that anybody calling for Braverman to resign, is obviously sexist, a racist and almost certainly antisemitic too ...
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Post by wannabee on Nov 9, 2023 14:24:24 GMT
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Post by oggyoggy on Nov 9, 2023 14:54:58 GMT
Shhhh all MPs are the same. Labour are the same as the Tories. It makes no difference who is in power. Yvette Cooper as Home Secretary would be no different to Suella Braverman as Home Secretary. She would have written the same as what Suella has written…..
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Nov 9, 2023 14:56:04 GMT
Can we be clear that anybody calling for Braverman to resign, is obviously sexist, a racist and almost certainly antisemitic too ... Suella says multiculturalism has failed. Suella is ethnic Indian via Mauritius and Kenya and grew up in a Hindu/Christan household. She has a Jewish husband. Suella is a failure. Calling for Suella to f*ck off is therefore a compliment to her ideology.
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Post by gawa on Nov 9, 2023 15:19:26 GMT
Shhhh all MPs are the same. Labour are the same as the Tories. It makes no difference who is in power. Yvette Cooper as Home Secretary would be no different to Suella Braverman as Home Secretary. She would have written the same as what Suella has written….. Actions speak louder than words Oggy. She, like Dan Jarvis, David Lammy, Wes Streeting and many others of the Labour right have received significant donations from Peter Hearn. I hope this has no affect on NHS outsourcing and taxing the wealthy if they get into power. Great words by Yvette. Let's see the actions if/when in power.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Nov 9, 2023 15:31:45 GMT
There is increasing talk that her style of Hindu is fiercely opposed to Muslim faith. Maybe no mileage in this but her stance on the palestinian situation sort of explains it. Increasing talk? Oh come on Huddy ffs. The same could be said of you and your supporting of Corbyn indicating you are Anti-Israel and Hamas are your friends? Unlike you I read the news. Dare call me anti-Israel and pro Hamas from the safety of your keyboard....wow!!
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Nov 9, 2023 15:40:20 GMT
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Post by gawa on Nov 9, 2023 16:01:05 GMT
What an absolute bargain too. NHS data is the most comrepehensive patient medical date in the world. This data could be highly beneficial for AI firms and make them alot of money. Less than half a billion sounds very cheap.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Nov 9, 2023 16:20:03 GMT
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Post by thisisouryear on Nov 9, 2023 16:26:24 GMT
Cruella will be taking her place amongst the other desirables on twitter soon. Katie Hopkins will have to up her game with Cruella in town.
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Post by oggyoggy on Nov 9, 2023 16:47:18 GMT
Shhhh all MPs are the same. Labour are the same as the Tories. It makes no difference who is in power. Yvette Cooper as Home Secretary would be no different to Suella Braverman as Home Secretary. She would have written the same as what Suella has written….. Actions speak louder than words Oggy. She, like Dan Jarvis, David Lammy, Wes Streeting and many others of the Labour right have received significant donations from Peter Hearn. I hope this has no affect on NHS outsourcing and taxing the wealthy if they get into power. Great words by Yvette. Let's see the actions if/when in power. Absolutely. But how do those in opposition take action when not in power? In this circumstance, Yvette Cooper has taken all the action she can do and so should be very much praised for it. And she should be heavily criticised if she gets power and follows the footsteps of Braverman. She won’t though.
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Post by knype on Nov 9, 2023 16:48:46 GMT
Increasing talk? Oh come on Huddy ffs. The same could be said of you and your supporting of Corbyn indicating you are Anti-Israel and Hamas are your friends? Unlike you I read the news. Dare call me anti-Israel and pro Hamas from the safety of your keyboard....wow!! You read the left wing trash news. I turned back what you had said onto you, don't like it when you get some back do you, you have called countless others racists etc etc. Grow up you big kid. And I don't need a keyboard to hide behind
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Post by tuum on Nov 9, 2023 17:01:22 GMT
Actions speak louder than words Oggy. She, like Dan Jarvis, David Lammy, Wes Streeting and many others of the Labour right have received significant donations from Peter Hearn. I hope this has no affect on NHS outsourcing and taxing the wealthy if they get into power. Great words by Yvette. Let's see the actions if/when in power. Absolutely. But how do those in opposition take action when not in power? In this circumstance, Yvette Cooper has taken all the action she can do and so should be very much praised for it. And she should be heavily criticised if she gets power and follows the footsteps of Braverman. She won’t though. I agree and I like Yvette but I fear that she will be cowed somehat in office when she realises that the US, the EU, the media, the Arabs, the Chinese, the Russians, the Stockbrokers control our ability to do the right thing. We have to tread carefully in this world. I hope I am wrong but she deserves a chance to try!
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Post by oggyoggy on Nov 9, 2023 17:03:17 GMT
Absolutely. But how do those in opposition take action when not in power? In this circumstance, Yvette Cooper has taken all the action she can do and so should be very much praised for it. And she should be heavily criticised if she gets power and follows the footsteps of Braverman. She won’t though. I agree and I like Yvette but I fear that she will be cowed somehat in office when she realises that the US, the EU, the media, the Arabs, the Chinese, the Russians, the Stockbrokers control our ability to do the right thing. We have to tread carefully in this world. I hope I am wrong but she deserves a chance to try! Yes, we have very little sway and influence in the world nowadays. The joke governments since the brexit vote (and the vote itself) finished off what standing we had.
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Post by gawa on Nov 9, 2023 17:05:22 GMT
Actions speak louder than words Oggy. She, like Dan Jarvis, David Lammy, Wes Streeting and many others of the Labour right have received significant donations from Peter Hearn. I hope this has no affect on NHS outsourcing and taxing the wealthy if they get into power. Great words by Yvette. Let's see the actions if/when in power. Absolutely. But how do those in opposition take action when not in power? In this circumstance, Yvette Cooper has taken all the action she can do and so should be very much praised for it. And she should be heavily criticised if she gets power and follows the footsteps of Braverman. She won’t though. But she should also be open to the same criticism which we apply to other MPs too whether she's in power or not. I posted the speech as I thought she spoke well. Just like I posted a speech the other day from Starmer who spoke well. They take action by listening to the people and standing up for them where the government isn't. Such as today when it comes to Suellas comments and actions. There are many instances though where Starmer and his front bench haven't stood up for the people though. Being better and more morale than the most right wing tory party in years is a very low bar to judge someone by though. I expect much more from a supposed left wing party.
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Post by oggyoggy on Nov 9, 2023 17:14:34 GMT
Absolutely. But how do those in opposition take action when not in power? In this circumstance, Yvette Cooper has taken all the action she can do and so should be very much praised for it. And she should be heavily criticised if she gets power and follows the footsteps of Braverman. She won’t though. But she should also be open to the same criticism which we apply to other MPs too whether she's in power or not. I posted the speech as I thought she spoke well. Just like I posted a speech the other day from Starmer who spoke well. They take action by listening to the people and standing up for them where the government isn't. Such as today when it comes to Suellas comments and actions. There are many instances though where Starmer and his front bench haven't stood up for the people though. Being better and more morale than the most right wing tory party in years is a very low bar to judge someone by though. I expect much more from a supposed left wing party. You are mistaken. The labour are not a left wing party.
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Post by tuum on Nov 9, 2023 17:16:37 GMT
I agree and I like Yvette but I fear that she will be cowed somehat in office when she realises that the US, the EU, the media, the Arabs, the Chinese, the Russians, the Stockbrokers control our ability to do the right thing. We have to tread carefully in this world. I hope I am wrong but she deserves a chance to try! Yes, we have very little sway and influence in the world nowadays. The joke governments since the brexit vote (and the vote itself) finished off what standing we had. My hope with Brexit was that we would withdraw from the world stage and focus on the UK. That is not to be insular but just to stop trying to be a power in the world. We are not the US, China, India, Russia. I was hoping that we could evolve into a minor European country but with more clout through historical diplomatic influence. Unfortunately, the govt and others still want to see us as a world power. We are not and we need to accept that fact. What we can do is influence through diplomacy but the last 13 years have demonstrated to the world that we no longer have people of integrity or capability at the highest level of Govt. Very sad.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Nov 9, 2023 17:23:58 GMT
Bear in mind that O'brien said this 2 days ago before Braverman's op-ed today ...
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Post by essexstokey on Nov 9, 2023 18:14:48 GMT
Has she gone yet
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Post by essexstokey on Nov 9, 2023 18:18:16 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 9, 2023 18:21:57 GMT
Condoms? This is getting very interesting now. Settle in and tune in to Big Nige tonight at 7pm. You know it makes sense
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Post by andystokey on Nov 9, 2023 18:32:24 GMT
Grow some balls Sunak, the woman has now attempted to bring NI into this for absolutely no good reason, she's absolutely batshit mental ... She needs sacking....today. I know that's what she wants but we cannot go on like this. There is a great discussion on News Agents and Times Radio about how she is doing this to manufacture exactly that scenario. Being a noisy backbencher for a year makes her either #1 replacement or king maker as she was after Truss. Sunak is choosing not to do it because he creates his own inevitable end. We absolutely need to see a choice of Country over party now. She is ruining social cohesion, making the Police's job impossible and failing in her role to keep us all safe. The conservatives need to grow a pair let Sunak sack her and make it clear she will forever be irrelevant. But they won't, it's like watching the last days of the Roman empire in your own country.
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Nov 9, 2023 19:15:55 GMT
#FreeRishi
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Post by gawa on Nov 9, 2023 19:32:18 GMT
But she should also be open to the same criticism which we apply to other MPs too whether she's in power or not. I posted the speech as I thought she spoke well. Just like I posted a speech the other day from Starmer who spoke well. They take action by listening to the people and standing up for them where the government isn't. Such as today when it comes to Suellas comments and actions. There are many instances though where Starmer and his front bench haven't stood up for the people though. Being better and more morale than the most right wing tory party in years is a very low bar to judge someone by though. I expect much more from a supposed left wing party. You are mistaken. The labour are not a left wing party. And as someone with left wing views there lies why I criticise elements of the Labour Party because this version isn't very left at all.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Nov 9, 2023 19:42:19 GMT
What amazes me about Braverman is that she appears to think that she's got a chance of becoming next leader of the Conservatives.
She's got no fucking chance. At least half the parliamentary party loathes her, I'd wager that the blue rinsers who make up the membership would vote for anyone not her colour given the chance (viz Sunak v Truss for closest recent example), the right-wing Press won't back her (despite participating wholeheartedly in the shit-stirring she's engaged in currently) and the country can't stand her.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Nov 9, 2023 20:05:02 GMT
She needs sacking....today. I know that's what she wants but we cannot go on like this. There is a great discussion on News Agents and Times Radio about how she is doing this to manufacture exactly that scenario. Being a noisy backbencher for a year makes her either #1 replacement or king maker as she was after Truss. Sunak is choosing not to do it because he creates his own inevitable end. We absolutely need to see a choice of Country over party now. She is ruining social cohesion, making the Police's job impossible and failing in her role to keep us all safe. The conservatives need to grow a pair let Sunak sack her and make it clear she will forever be irrelevant. But they won't, it's like watching the last days of the Roman empire in your own country. She's put a target on the back of every copper in London this weekend, all in the name of her own personal ambitions. She should be chased out of politics altogether ...
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Post by fullmetaljacket on Nov 9, 2023 20:09:01 GMT
There is a great discussion on News Agents and Times Radio about how she is doing this to manufacture exactly that scenario. Being a noisy backbencher for a year makes her either #1 replacement or king maker as she was after Truss. Sunak is choosing not to do it because he creates his own inevitable end. We absolutely need to see a choice of Country over party now. She is ruining social cohesion, making the Police's job impossible and failing in her role to keep us all safe. The conservatives need to grow a pair let Sunak sack her and make it clear she will forever be irrelevant. But they won't, it's like watching the last days of the Roman empire in your own country. She's put a target on the back of every copper in London this weekend, all in the name of her own personal ambitions. She should be chased out of politics altogether ... Never thought I'd see a home sec actively agitating for it to kick off.
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Post by Biblical on Nov 9, 2023 20:40:39 GMT
What amazes me about Braverman is that she appears to think that she's got a chance of becoming next leader of the Conservatives. She's got no fucking chance. At least half the parliamentary party loathes her, I'd wager that the blue rinsers who make up the membership would vote for anyone not her colour given the chance (viz Sunak v Truss for closest recent example), the right-wing Press won't back her (despite participating wholeheartedly in the shit-stirring she's engaged in currently) and the country can't stand her. Yeah I’ve got no idea why she’s angling herself so she can take part in the next leadership contest, she’s so thoroughly dislikable.
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Nov 9, 2023 20:47:10 GMT
What amazes me about Braverman is that she appears to think that she's got a chance of becoming next leader of the Conservatives. She's got no fucking chance. At least half the parliamentary party loathes her, I'd wager that the blue rinsers who make up the membership would vote for anyone not her colour given the chance (viz Sunak v Truss for closest recent example), the right-wing Press won't back her (despite participating wholeheartedly in the shit-stirring she's engaged in currently) and the country can't stand her. But where's Lozza Fox when you need him to cut through the crap and get to the nub of the issue. 'Would any self respecting man go to bed with her?'.
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