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Post by knype on Oct 12, 2023 12:19:16 GMT
Who'd have thought after cancelling everything but covid for years and then strikes by the unions would cause a waiting list ? Is there any beginning to your intelligence mate? Whereas you're still waiting to get some ? |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Oct 12, 2023 12:41:09 GMT
Who'd have thought after cancelling everything but covid for years and then strikes by the unions would cause a waiting list ? That's a fair enough point actually. This govt is still shit though 😆 It's not really a good point. 10 years of Tory austerity had resulted in NHS waiting lists being at a record high prior to the pandemic even beginning. |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Oct 12, 2023 12:48:33 GMT
That's a fair enough point actually. This govt is still shit though 😆 It's not really a good point. 10 years of Tory austerity had resulted in NHS waiting lists being at a record high prior to the pandemic even beginning. I agree about your austerity and all that. Bit you can't ignore lockdown and the impact that's had. That said it was these idiots that locked down far too long. But the way labour were talking they'd have locked down longer and harder. Covid definitely made it worse though. I'm standing by that. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Oct 12, 2023 13:00:58 GMT
It's not really a good point. 10 years of Tory austerity had resulted in NHS waiting lists being at a record high prior to the pandemic even beginning. I agree about your austerity and all that. Bit you can't ignore lockdown and the impact that's had. That said it was these idiots that locked down far too long. But the way labour were talking they'd have locked down longer and harder. Covid definitely made it worse though. I'm standing by that. Nobody is saying that the pandemic didn't make it worse but the fact that the Tories had slashed NHS funding to such an extent was the primary contributory factor to the increase in waiting lists. |
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Oct 12, 2023 13:15:12 GMT
I agree about your austerity and all that. Bit you can't ignore lockdown and the impact that's had. That said it was these idiots that locked down far too long. But the way labour were talking they'd have locked down longer and harder. Covid definitely made it worse though. I'm standing by that. Nobody is saying that the pandemic didn't make it worse but the fact that the Tories had slashed NHS funding to such an extent was the primary contributory factor to the increase in waiting lists. Waiting lists doubled from 2.5m in 2010 to almost 5m in 2019 pre pandemic. They're now at almost 8m so no doubt covid has had an effect but the trajectory they were on would have taken them to between 6 and 7m anyway. If people want to blame the pandemic alone that's up to them - but the numbers don't support it. |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 12, 2023 13:19:34 GMT
Is there any beginning to your intelligence mate? Whereas you're still waiting to get some ? You're blaming waiting lists on Covid and the strikes, which to be honest is a bit thick. |
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Oct 12, 2023 13:29:57 GMT
I agree about your austerity and all that. Bit you can't ignore lockdown and the impact that's had. That said it was these idiots that locked down far too long. But the way labour were talking they'd have locked down longer and harder. Covid definitely made it worse though. I'm standing by that. Nobody is saying that the pandemic didn't make it worse but the fact that the Tories had slashed NHS funding to such an extent was the primary contributory factor to the increase in waiting lists. Yeah, it's all bollocks when people try to deflect everything onto Covid or the Ukraine war. Like you said, neither have helped but the picture was pretty obvious before either of those even started. And, once again, undermines the crap that you often see written on here (usually by non-Labour voters) that all parties and politicians are the same.  |
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Post by aureliuspotter on Oct 12, 2023 13:44:25 GMT
It's not really a good point. 10 years of Tory austerity had resulted in NHS waiting lists being at a record high prior to the pandemic even beginning. I agree about your austerity and all that. Bit you can't ignore lockdown and the impact that's had. That said it was these idiots that locked down far too long. But the way labour were talking they'd have locked down longer and harder. Covid definitely made it worse though. I'm standing by that. Good point by Knype and top post in response by you mate 👍🏻 |
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Post by knype on Oct 12, 2023 13:59:50 GMT
Whereas you're still waiting to get some ? You're blaming waiting lists on Covid and the strikes, which to be honest is a bit thick. It's fact. I know you struggle to understand facts unless you find a twitter link for it |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Oct 12, 2023 14:03:35 GMT
I agree about your austerity and all that. Bit you can't ignore lockdown and the impact that's had. That said it was these idiots that locked down far too long. But the way labour were talking they'd have locked down longer and harder. Covid definitely made it worse though. I'm standing by that. Nobody is saying that the pandemic didn't make it worse but the fact that the Tories had slashed NHS funding to such an extent was the primary contributory factor to the increase in waiting lists. Yeah they are Huddyleftpeg for a kick off 😆 |
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Post by aureliuspotter on Oct 12, 2023 14:45:23 GMT
I agree about your austerity and all that. Bit you can't ignore lockdown and the impact that's had. That said it was these idiots that locked down far too long. But the way labour were talking they'd have locked down longer and harder. Covid definitely made it worse though. I'm standing by that. Nobody is saying that the pandemic didn't make it worse but the fact that the Tories had slashed NHS funding to such an extent was the primary contributory factor to the increase in waiting lists. Not the tens of thousands of migrants and asylum seekers that use it despite many not contributing towards it? |
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Post by oggyoggy on Oct 12, 2023 14:47:51 GMT
Nobody is saying that the pandemic didn't make it worse but the fact that the Tories had slashed NHS funding to such an extent was the primary contributory factor to the increase in waiting lists. Not the tens of thousands of migrants and asylum seekers that use it despite many not contributing towards it? Asylum seekers are not using the nhs in a way that materially makes a difference. I know it was true pre-brexit referendum, but on average migrants contribute more per person than Brits to the public purse. |
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Post by aureliuspotter on Oct 12, 2023 14:48:20 GMT
Not the tens of thousands of migrants and asylum seekers that use it despite many not contributing towards it? Asylum seekers are not using the nhs. I know it was true pre-brexit referendum, but on average migrants contribute more per person than Brits to the public purse. Do they fuck. |
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Post by oggyoggy on Oct 12, 2023 14:49:20 GMT
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Post by aureliuspotter on Oct 12, 2023 14:50:18 GMT
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Post by aureliuspotter on Oct 12, 2023 14:52:10 GMT
'Fraid so...https://fullfact.org/immigration/how-immigrants-affect-public-finances/#:~:text=The%20net%20fiscal%20impact%20of,and%20public%20services%20they%20receive. Fraid you're wrong. The answer is definitely nein |
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Post by oggyoggy on Oct 12, 2023 14:53:39 GMT
'Fraid so...https://fullfact.org/immigration/how-immigrants-affect-public-finances/#:~:text=The%20net%20fiscal%20impact%20of,and%20public%20services%20they%20receive. Fraid you're wring. The answer is definitely nein Care to show your workings? Two independent sources are quoted above backing up the point you disagree with. |
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Post by aureliuspotter on Oct 12, 2023 14:55:36 GMT
Fraid you're wring. The answer is definitely nein Care to show your workings? Two independent sources are quoted above backing up the point you disagree with. Your sources aren't trusted. |
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Oct 12, 2023 14:55:38 GMT
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Post by aureliuspotter on Oct 12, 2023 14:56:50 GMT
[br Fraid not. The answer is definitely nein. |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 12, 2023 15:00:00 GMT
You're blaming waiting lists on Covid and the strikes, which to be honest is a bit thick. It's fact. I know you struggle to understand facts unless you find a twitter link for it Simply saying "it's fact" when it's clearly not demonstrates your complete lack of intelligence on this and most other subjects mate. |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 12, 2023 15:01:24 GMT
Ahh the old trope used by the Britain First and other far right racist dickheads. |
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Oct 12, 2023 15:07:30 GMT
[br Fraid not. The answer is definitely nein. You watch out for those muslamic raygams...😄 |
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Post by elystokie on Oct 12, 2023 15:15:42 GMT
A quote by the legendary Carl Hart would seem appropriate at this juncture - “I have to make sure I don't engage in conversations with people who don't abide by the rules of evidence.” drcarlhart.com/ |
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Post by aureliuspotter on Oct 12, 2023 15:15:46 GMT
[br Fraid not. The answer is definitely nein. You watch out for those muslamic raygams...😄 I like muslims, we're on the same page regarding lefty ideology  |
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Post by aureliuspotter on Oct 12, 2023 15:16:31 GMT
Ahh the old trope used by the Britain First and other far right racist dickheads. Better than anti British Labour dickheads |
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Post by aureliuspotter on Oct 12, 2023 15:19:07 GMT
It's fact. I know you struggle to understand facts unless you find a twitter link for it Simply saying "it's fact" when it's clearly not demonstrates your complete lack of intelligence on this and most other subjects mate. How you can comment on anyone's lack of intelligence is beyond me. So uneducated. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Oct 12, 2023 15:42:31 GMT
Nobody is saying that the pandemic didn't make it worse but the fact that the Tories had slashed NHS funding to such an extent was the primary contributory factor to the increase in waiting lists. Not the tens of thousands of migrants and asylum seekers that use it despite many not contributing towards it? Erm, no. |
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Post by aureliuspotter on Oct 12, 2023 15:46:11 GMT
Not the tens of thousands of migrants and asylum seekers that use it despite many not contributing towards it? Erm, no. Definitely yes. |
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Post by knype on Oct 12, 2023 15:48:20 GMT
It's fact. I know you struggle to understand facts unless you find a twitter link for it Simply saying "it's fact" when it's clearly not demonstrates your complete lack of intelligence on this and most other subjects mate. Who you of all people have the nerve to say anything like you just have is amazing. You think sharing a twitter link shows intelligence |
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