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Post by aureliuspotter on Oct 1, 2023 16:59:09 GMT
I could mate ye but its easier for you to Google it . I'm currently down stoke having a few beers with normal lads and they'll get pissed off if I'm constantly on my phone talking shit to commies 😂 That would be a no then It would be exactly what it says mate ☺
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Post by oggyoggy on Oct 1, 2023 17:06:09 GMT
It would be exactly what it says mate ☺ A no
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Post by aureliuspotter on Oct 1, 2023 17:22:05 GMT
It would be exactly what it says mate ☺ A no Or exactly what I said 😝
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Post by peterthornesboots on Oct 1, 2023 17:24:20 GMT
Is this the Conservatives trying to do a little re-branding whilst distancing themselves from 13 years of slowly breaking the country? It'll work as well. Joe public is thick as fck they'll vote for anything. I am actually inclined to agree (to an extent) - I think that it is a clever little ploy, although how effective it will be remains to be seen.
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Post by aureliuspotter on Oct 1, 2023 17:25:56 GMT
It'll work as well. Joe public is thick as fck they'll vote for anything. I am actually inclined to agree (to an extent) - I think that it is a clever little ploy, although how effective it will be remains to be seen. They're Torys mate, if you trust what Torys say you may as well trust what Labour say. Both as parasitic as each other.
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Post by oggyoggy on Oct 1, 2023 17:26:59 GMT
I am actually inclined to agree (to an extent) - I think that it is a clever little ploy, although how effective it will be remains to be seen. They're Torys mate, if you trust what Torys say you may as well trust what Labour say. Both as parasitic as each other. That’s what every Tory wants you to believe after 13 years of some of the worst governance we have ever suffered.
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Post by aureliuspotter on Oct 1, 2023 17:27:54 GMT
They're Torys mate, if you trust what Torys say you may as well trust what Labour say. Both as parasitic as each other. That’s what every Tory wants you to believe after 13 years of some of the worst governance we have ever suffered. It's what every normal working class man knows.
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Post by oggyoggy on Oct 1, 2023 17:45:31 GMT
That’s what every Tory wants you to believe after 13 years of some of the worst governance we have ever suffered. It's what every normal working class man knows. Did you ask them all? Considering a significant number of them have never experienced a labour government during their adulthood, how on earth could they know? Yet again you make up statements without any form of evidence to back it up. It makes your points lack credibility and power.
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Post by aureliuspotter on Oct 1, 2023 18:05:16 GMT
It's what every normal working class man knows. Did you ask them all? Considering a significant number of them have never experienced a labour government during their adulthood, how on earth could they know? Yet again you make up statements without any form of evidence to back it up. It makes your points lack credibility and power. If you left your house every now and then and intermingled with ordinary people you'd come to the same conclusion mate, which is the correct conclusion. As much as you might like to think your world view is that of the majority, it most definitely isn't.
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Post by wannabee on Oct 1, 2023 18:10:10 GMT
It's what every normal working class man knows. Did you ask them all? Considering a significant number of them have never experienced a labour government during their adulthood, how on earth could they know? Yet again you make up statements without any form of evidence to back it up. It makes your points lack credibility and power. Thicker than a Boxing Day Turd
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Post by aureliuspotter on Oct 1, 2023 18:11:27 GMT
Did you ask them all? Considering a significant number of them have never experienced a labour government during their adulthood, how on earth could they know? Yet again you make up statements without any form of evidence to back it up. It makes your points lack credibility and power. Thicker than a Boxing Day Turd Sure sign you've admitted defeat in the argument when you resort to chavy language and name calling 😂
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Post by oggyoggy on Oct 1, 2023 18:14:53 GMT
Did you ask them all? Considering a significant number of them have never experienced a labour government during their adulthood, how on earth could they know? Yet again you make up statements without any form of evidence to back it up. It makes your points lack credibility and power. If you left your house every now and then and intermingled with ordinary people you'd come to the same conclusion mate, which is the correct conclusion. As much as you might like to think your world view is that of the majority, it most definitely isn't. I don’t care what the majority view is but I suspect labour will win the next election. Have a look at how the country was run and the state of public services during the last Labour government. It improved. Pretty much everything improved. The same question under the tories: everything is a lot worse, and we are paying record amounts of tax! The tories are a shambles.
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Post by aureliuspotter on Oct 1, 2023 18:19:59 GMT
If you left your house every now and then and intermingled with ordinary people you'd come to the same conclusion mate, which is the correct conclusion. As much as you might like to think your world view is that of the majority, it most definitely isn't. I don’t care what the majority view is but I suspect labour will win the next election. Have a look at how the country was run and the state of public services during the last Labour government. It improved. Pretty much everything improved. The same question under the tories: everything is a lot worse, and we are paying record amounts of tax! The tories are a shambles. You are preaching to the converted mate. You won't see me defending the vile Tory rats but you don't see me defending the equally if not more vile Labour party neither. The only time I'd vote Tory is as a gesture and a 🖕 to the kind of people like those you get on here with their holier than thou, self righteous attitude. You don't seem to have the self awareness to realise it but it's folk like you and Huddy and Bluers that actually create Tory voters. 😂 Edit. I'm pretty sure Labour will win the next election and I hope they do. It means nothing though because in no time it will be the Torys in power again then Labour then Torys in a never ending cycle of bullshit.
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Post by oggyoggy on Oct 1, 2023 18:59:30 GMT
I don’t care what the majority view is but I suspect labour will win the next election. Have a look at how the country was run and the state of public services during the last Labour government. It improved. Pretty much everything improved. The same question under the tories: everything is a lot worse, and we are paying record amounts of tax! The tories are a shambles. You are preaching to the converted mate. You won't see me defending the vile Tory rats but you don't see me defending the equally if not more vile Labour party neither. The only time I'd vote Tory is as a gesture and a 🖕 to the kind of people like those you get on here with their holier than thou, self righteous attitude. You don't seem to have the self awareness to realise it but it's folk like you and Huddy and Bluers that actually create Tory voters. 😂 Edit. I'm pretty sure Labour will win the next election and I hope they do. It means nothing though because in no time it will be the Torys in power again then Labour then Torys in a never ending cycle of bullshit. How are labour more vile when everything improved under their governance and everything has got worse but we pay more tax under the tories? You make no sense. You don’t like the two party system then. I really hope you voted for AV in the referendum during the coalition. That would have been voting against the express and mail whose opinions you seem to echo on here though, and so I doubt you did.
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Post by aureliuspotter on Oct 1, 2023 19:12:53 GMT
You are preaching to the converted mate. You won't see me defending the vile Tory rats but you don't see me defending the equally if not more vile Labour party neither. The only time I'd vote Tory is as a gesture and a 🖕 to the kind of people like those you get on here with their holier than thou, self righteous attitude. You don't seem to have the self awareness to realise it but it's folk like you and Huddy and Bluers that actually create Tory voters. 😂 Edit. I'm pretty sure Labour will win the next election and I hope they do. It means nothing though because in no time it will be the Torys in power again then Labour then Torys in a never ending cycle of bullshit. How are labour more vile when everything improved under their governance and everything has got worse but we pay more tax under the tories? You make no sense. You don’t like the two party system then. I really hope you voted for AV in the referendum during the coalition. That would have been voting against the express and mail whose opinions you seem to echo on here though, and so I doubt you did. It didn't get worse under the tories mate. It's shit under the tories and it was shit under Labour and it will be shit under Labour next time then shit under the tories again the time after that. I don't think I voted in that AV thing mate not that I remember anyway. I comment on the political things on here but in the real world I aren't obsessed with it like you and your ilk. I know what I believe and what my values are but outside of that I don't really care. You slag the tories off to me like I'm meant to be offended or something. I aren't offended mate, I don't like the tories, I probably dislike them more than you do, the difference is though when's alls been said and done I don't let it bother me, it is what it is. I can't control it and you certainly can't control it, so why let it take up so much of your time. To me, my family is my tribe and my country, as long as I do what I consider right by them I don't really care what Sunak, Starmer or anyone else thinks says or does because what they do say or think doesn't have any baring on how my household is run or how my life is lived. I've voted Labour all my life apart from the last election where I didn't vote at all. I never thought there would come a day where I consider voting Tory but when faced with the alternative I might just have to.
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Post by oggyoggy on Oct 1, 2023 19:22:47 GMT
How are labour more vile when everything improved under their governance and everything has got worse but we pay more tax under the tories? You make no sense. You don’t like the two party system then. I really hope you voted for AV in the referendum during the coalition. That would have been voting against the express and mail whose opinions you seem to echo on here though, and so I doubt you did. It didn't get worse under the tories mate. It's shit under the tories and it was shit under Labour and it will be shit under Labour next time then shit under the tories again the time after that. I don't think I voted in that AV thing mate not that I remember anyway. I comment on the political things on here but in the real world I aren't obsessed with it like you and your ilk. I know what I believe and what my values are but outside of that I don't really care. You slag the tories off to me like I'm meant to be offended or something. I aren't offended mate, I don't like the tories, I probably dislike them more than you do, the difference is though when's alls been said and done I don't let it bother me, it is what it is. I can't control it and you certainly can't control it, so why let it take up so much of your time. To me, my family is my tribe and my country, as long as I do what I consider right by them I don't really care what Sunak, Starmer or anyone else thinks says or does because what they do say or think doesn't have any baring on how my household is run or how my life is lived. I've voted Labour all my life apart from the last election where I didn't vote at all. I never thought there would come a day where I consider voting Tory but when faced with the alternative I might just have to. Nhs waiting lists are longer, real pay is lower, we pay more tax, there have been tons on cuts to public services, government debt has tripled, numbers in poverty has increased, individual debt has increased, we have massive staffing shortages, etc What the government does has a massive impact on your life. Inflation is higher because of brexit. Utilities cost a lot more here compared with elsewhere because pf privatisation. God forbid if your family needs an ambulance or cancer treatment or a routine surgery. You are currently paying more tax than you would have done in Corbyn’s plans had he won the 2019 election! Did you vote for the alternative voting system in the referendum? If not, you missed the chance to change the two party system.
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Post by Gawa on Oct 1, 2023 19:34:15 GMT
Guess he didn't do maths till 18? 🤣
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Post by aureliuspotter on Oct 1, 2023 19:36:47 GMT
It didn't get worse under the tories mate. It's shit under the tories and it was shit under Labour and it will be shit under Labour next time then shit under the tories again the time after that. I don't think I voted in that AV thing mate not that I remember anyway. I comment on the political things on here but in the real world I aren't obsessed with it like you and your ilk. I know what I believe and what my values are but outside of that I don't really care. You slag the tories off to me like I'm meant to be offended or something. I aren't offended mate, I don't like the tories, I probably dislike them more than you do, the difference is though when's alls been said and done I don't let it bother me, it is what it is. I can't control it and you certainly can't control it, so why let it take up so much of your time. To me, my family is my tribe and my country, as long as I do what I consider right by them I don't really care what Sunak, Starmer or anyone else thinks says or does because what they do say or think doesn't have any baring on how my household is run or how my life is lived. I've voted Labour all my life apart from the last election where I didn't vote at all. I never thought there would come a day where I consider voting Tory but when faced with the alternative I might just have to. Nhs waiting lists are longer, real pay is lower, we pay more tax, there have been tons on cuts to public services, government debt has tripled, numbers in poverty has increased, individual debt has increased, we have massive staffing shortages, etc What the government does has a massive impact on your life. Inflation is higher because of brexit. Utilities cost a lot more here compared with elsewhere because pf privatisation. God forbid if your family needs an ambulance or cancer treatment or a routine surgery. You are currently paying more tax than you would have done in Corbyn’s plans had he won the 2019 election! Did you vote for the alternative voting system in the referendum? If not, you missed the chance to change the two party system. Corbyn is anti British though so why would I vote for him. He cares more about asylum seekers and Palestine than he does about Britain, hence why he got annihilated. Inflation isn't higher because of Brexit. Inflation is high the world over due to covid, Ukraine etc. Nhs waiting lists have been shit for decades. My real pay is higher than it's ever been. Not because of the tories but inspite of them. My job provides private health care for myself and my family. How can I or any other self respecting man with any sense of duty vote for a man (Starmer) that can't define a woman and takes the knee and bows down like a cuckold to an anti white marxist organisation? I'll bow to no human or no organisation and I expect my 'leaders' to have the same sense of pride and self respect.
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Post by foghornsgleghorn on Oct 1, 2023 20:51:31 GMT
In my opinion, Corbyn was the most promising candidate to bring about substantial change in our country. Fuck me. Two weeks and the ordinary working bloke changes his mind completely.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Oct 1, 2023 21:11:47 GMT
In my opinion, Corbyn was the most promising candidate to bring about substantial change in our country. Fuck me. Two weeks and the ordinary working bloke changes his mind completely. 🤣 that is funny! But then again, he's proved himself correct... Joe public is thick as fck
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 1, 2023 21:34:44 GMT
In my opinion, Corbyn was the most promising candidate to bring about substantial change in our country. Fuck me. Two weeks and the ordinary working bloke changes his mind completely. Outstanding spot. Well done Sir.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 1, 2023 21:36:17 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 1, 2023 21:48:32 GMT
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Post by oggyoggy on Oct 1, 2023 21:49:57 GMT
Nhs waiting lists are longer, real pay is lower, we pay more tax, there have been tons on cuts to public services, government debt has tripled, numbers in poverty has increased, individual debt has increased, we have massive staffing shortages, etc What the government does has a massive impact on your life. Inflation is higher because of brexit. Utilities cost a lot more here compared with elsewhere because pf privatisation. God forbid if your family needs an ambulance or cancer treatment or a routine surgery. You are currently paying more tax than you would have done in Corbyn’s plans had he won the 2019 election! Did you vote for the alternative voting system in the referendum? If not, you missed the chance to change the two party system. Corbyn is anti British though so why would I vote for him. He cares more about asylum seekers and Palestine than he does about Britain, hence why he got annihilated. Inflation isn't higher because of Brexit. Inflation is high the world over due to covid, Ukraine etc. Nhs waiting lists have been shit for decades. My real pay is higher than it's ever been. Not because of the tories but inspite of them. My job provides private health care for myself and my family. How can I or any other self respecting man with any sense of duty vote for a man (Starmer) that can't define a woman and takes the knee and bows down like a cuckold to an anti white marxist organisation? I'll bow to no human or no organisation and I expect my 'leaders' to have the same sense of pride and self respect. So you only care about culture war issues rather than the quality of schools and hospitals. You should be loving the tories. Brexit is inflationary. Just today the government admitted the rules on plant and animal imports coming in next year (the oven ready deal is still not actually fully implemented it was so bad) will cost businesses an extra £330m a year. Who will they pass on the higher prices to do you think? That is inflation.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 1, 2023 21:51:12 GMT
In my opinion, Corbyn was the most promising candidate to bring about substantial change in our country. Fuck me. Two weeks and the ordinary working bloke changes his mind completely. In fairness I think he had a massive sesh in Stoke this afternoon.
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Post by wannabee on Oct 1, 2023 21:53:05 GMT
Guess he didn't do maths till 18? 🤣 If Rishi is giving us a Tax Cut by reducing inflation, why did he put it up in the first place? #stupidomics
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 1, 2023 21:53:54 GMT
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Post by aureliuspotter on Oct 1, 2023 22:04:45 GMT
Corbyn is anti British though so why would I vote for him. He cares more about asylum seekers and Palestine than he does about Britain, hence why he got annihilated. Inflation isn't higher because of Brexit. Inflation is high the world over due to covid, Ukraine etc. Nhs waiting lists have been shit for decades. My real pay is higher than it's ever been. Not because of the tories but inspite of them. My job provides private health care for myself and my family. How can I or any other self respecting man with any sense of duty vote for a man (Starmer) that can't define a woman and takes the knee and bows down like a cuckold to an anti white marxist organisation? I'll bow to no human or no organisation and I expect my 'leaders' to have the same sense of pride and self respect. So you only care about culture war issues rather than the quality of schools and hospitals. You should be loving the tories. Brexit is inflationary. Just today the government admitted the rules on plant and animal imports coming in next year (the oven ready deal is still not actually fully implemented it was so bad) will cost businesses an extra £330m a year. Who will they pass on the higher prices to do you think? That is inflation. I didn't say i don't care about schools and hospitals mate, you've just made that up. Brexit isn't the cause of inflation. Inflation has many causes, just because the vote didn't go your way that doesn't mean Brexit is at fault for everything.
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Post by aureliuspotter on Oct 1, 2023 22:06:38 GMT
Fuck me. Two weeks and the ordinary working bloke changes his mind completely. 🤣 that is funny! But then again, he's proved himself correct... Joe public is thick as fck Mate that's like Lizzo calling someone else fat 😂
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Post by wannabee on Oct 1, 2023 22:30:16 GMT
It's difficult to remember them all Huddy maybe we can create a chain post Nadhim Zahawi Brexit Suella Braverman Michael Gove Sir Gavin Williamson ERG Leveling Up Chris Pincher Jacob Rees-Mogg Priti Patel Robert Jenrick 30P Lee Johnatan Gullis Nadine Dorries Susan Hall Barnard Castle HS2 Lebedev Freeports Feel free to add
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