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Post by aureliuspotter on Sept 27, 2023 14:34:30 GMT
You're right we aren't marxist we thoroughly reject it. I aren't afraid to admit what I am mate in fact I'm proud of it I'm happy to shout it from the roof tops because I know I'm right in how I see things .
Doubt is not a pleasant condition, but certainty is absurd. Voltaire I agree, although you can be certain of some things . I'm certain I'm right on the things I say on here. |
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Post by oggyoggy on Sept 27, 2023 14:40:11 GMT
Doubt is not a pleasant condition, but certainty is absurd. Voltaire I agree, although you can be certain of some things . I'm certain I'm right on the things I say on here. Incredible considering you offer absolutely no evidence or even reasoning to back up any of your claims or opinions on here. It suggests you have absolutely no confidence in what you are saying. |
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Post by aureliuspotter on Sept 27, 2023 14:43:09 GMT
I agree, although you can be certain of some things . I'm certain I'm right on the things I say on here. Incredible considering you offer absolutely no evidence or even reasoning to back up any of your claims or opinions on here. It suggests you have absolutely no confidence in what you are saying. I've backed them all up multiple times but your 'team' don't seem capable of understanding. |
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Sept 27, 2023 14:44:40 GMT
You either aren't admitting what you are or you don't know the roots of the political opinions you are expressing. Your opinions about nature and human nature are straight out of a Social Darwinist text book. The political expression of Social Darwinism hit it's heights with Nazi Germany. Your politics is rooted firmly in the fascist tradition and yet you continually refuse to admit you are a fascist. So I repeat - are you a fascist or do you just spout things without the slightest clue as to where those ideas and beliefs came from or where they will lead? You are wrong mate on every point that you tried to make. You can't argue with biology and nature, if you think biology and nature is fascist then that doesn't surprise me at all. Am I a fascist- By your standards and people like Huddys standards yes absolutely so and proud of it. But if you take the actual definition of the word and if you know what it actually means then no I'm not. Are you an extreme left wing fascist? What you are talking about isn't biology and nature. You are taking about a very particular and restricted view of biology and nature, applying it to human behaviour and using to underpin your political views. You have adopted Social Darwinism as a core tenet of your politics. Which is exactly what the Nazi Party did. As I said earlier I am not far left - I'm not a Marxist and I am not even a socialist. For want of a better term I am centre left/ liberal/democratic. If you are not a fascist, even though you have adopted some of core beliefs of the archetypical fascist party of the 20th century, what are you? |
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Post by aureliuspotter on Sept 27, 2023 14:46:59 GMT
You are wrong mate on every point that you tried to make. You can't argue with biology and nature, if you think biology and nature is fascist then that doesn't surprise me at all. Am I a fascist- By your standards and people like Huddys standards yes absolutely so and proud of it. But if you take the actual definition of the word and if you know what it actually means then no I'm not. Are you an extreme left wing fascist? What you are talking about isn't biology and nature. You are taking about a very particular and restricted view of biology and nature, applying it to human behaviour and using to underpin your political views. You have adopted Social Darwinism as a core tenet of your politics. Which is exactly what the Nazi Party did. As I said earlier I am not far left - I'm not a Marxist and I am not even a socialist. For want of a better term I am centre left/ liberal/democratic. If you are not a fascist, even though you have adopted some of core beliefs of the archetypical fascist party of the 20th century, what are you? It is biology and it is nature. Godwins law doesn't work with me mate. We just keep going round in circles now. You're boring me so I'll let you and your team have the last say whilst I sit back confidently knowing that I'm right and you're wrong. UTP |
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Sept 27, 2023 14:48:35 GMT
Incredible considering you offer absolutely no evidence or even reasoning to back up any of your claims or opinions on here. It suggests you have absolutely no confidence in what you are saying. I've backed them all up multiple times but your 'team' don't seem capable of understanding. No you haven't - you just repeated the same old slogans and provided no support for your claims other than stating again and again that you know you are right. You don't even seem to know where your political views come. |
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Post by wannabee on Sept 27, 2023 14:59:01 GMT
Doubt is not a pleasant condition, but certainty is absurd. Voltaire I agree, although you can be certain of some things . I'm certain I'm right on the things I say on here. I'm certain you'd enjoy reading Haekel, I suspect you already have. |
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Post by oggyoggy on Sept 27, 2023 15:32:54 GMT
Incredible considering you offer absolutely no evidence or even reasoning to back up any of your claims or opinions on here. It suggests you have absolutely no confidence in what you are saying. I've backed them all up multiple times but your 'team' don't seem capable of understanding. You say the Home Sec is ace. You haven’t said why. I said I think she is terrible. I have pointed out she has failed in every single objective in her role and why she is terrible (small boats are up, her solution is unlawful and she knew it was unlawful as she had to write on page 1 of the bill that it was unlawful, immigration as a whole at record levels, sexual assault charges and convictions at record lows, massive staff shortages because of immigration rules, £8m a day spent on housing asylum seekers waiting for their claims to be processed, record backlog in asylum seeker claims, a ruinous speech full of hate yesterday which is damaging to our country’s reputation and standing in the world). Do you see the difference in how much more persuasive an opinion is when backed up by the evidence in support of that opinion. Once more, i invite you to back up why you think she is ace. |
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Post by Gawa on Sept 27, 2023 15:45:42 GMT
I've backed them all up multiple times but your 'team' don't seem capable of understanding. You say the Home Sec is ace. You haven’t said why. I said I think she is terrible. I have pointed out she has failed in every single objective in her role and why she is terrible (small boats are up, her solution is unlawful and she knew it was unlawful as she had to write on page 1 of the bill that it was unlawful, immigration as a whole at record levels, sexual assault charges and convictions at record lows, massive staff shortages because of immigration rules, £8m a day spent on housing asylum seekers waiting for their claims to be processed, record backlog in asylum seeker claims, a ruinous speech full of hate yesterday which is damaging to our country’s reputation and standing in the world). Do you see the difference in how much more persuasive an opinion is when backed up by the evidence in support of that opinion. Once more, i invite you to back up why you think she is ace. Probably thinks her ideas are ace in the sense that she comes up with some radical solutions to tackle immigration. So I can see why some people who see immigration as a big issue may think she's ace as she's saying and suggesting stuff which other politicians are unwilling to say/do. Like you said though there's a stark difference between what one says and what one does. And we should judge people by what they do rather than what they say in my opinion. And for me this is why I see the tories as gas lighters because they say stuff which makes people think they're great. But when it comes to actioning said things they do very little. If immigration is a huge concern then people need to judge the parties by their actions in my opinion. And doubling immigration from 600k to 1.2 million would concern me if it was an issue close to my heart. And yes Labour politicians are also guilty of saying one thing while doing another. But at least everything ran much better under the last Labour government compared to the last 13 years in my opinion. I understand others may feel differently on that though and I welcome them to tell me what the tories have achieved in the last 13 years which shows they've done a better job. |
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Post by oggyoggy on Sept 27, 2023 15:49:27 GMT
You say the Home Sec is ace. You haven’t said why. I said I think she is terrible. I have pointed out she has failed in every single objective in her role and why she is terrible (small boats are up, her solution is unlawful and she knew it was unlawful as she had to write on page 1 of the bill that it was unlawful, immigration as a whole at record levels, sexual assault charges and convictions at record lows, massive staff shortages because of immigration rules, £8m a day spent on housing asylum seekers waiting for their claims to be processed, record backlog in asylum seeker claims, a ruinous speech full of hate yesterday which is damaging to our country’s reputation and standing in the world). Do you see the difference in how much more persuasive an opinion is when backed up by the evidence in support of that opinion. Once more, i invite you to back up why you think she is ace. Probably thinks her ideas are ace in the sense that she comes up with some radical solutions to tackle immigration. So I can see why some people who see immigration as a big issue may think she's ace as she's saying and suggesting stuff which other politicians are unwilling to say/do. Like you said though there's a stark difference between what one says and what one does. And we should judge people by what they do rather than what they say in my opinion. And for me this is why I see the tories as gas lighters because they say stuff which makes people think they're great. But when it comes to actioning said things they do very little. If immigration is a huge concern then people need to judge the parties by their actions in my opinion. And doubling immigration from 600k to 1.2 million would concern me if it was an issue close to my heart. And yes Labour politicians are also guilty of saying one thing while doing another. But at least everything ran much better under the last Labour government compared to the last 13 years in my opinion. I understand others may feel differently on that though and I welcome them to tell me what the tories have achieved in the last 13 years which shows they've done a better job. Exactly. If you are pro mass immigration you could describe Braverman as ace. But she is trying to massively reduce it and her policies and her hate filled rhetoric achieve the complete opposite! She is arguably the most incompetent member of government, and that is saying something. |
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Post by elystokie on Sept 27, 2023 16:00:46 GMT
Probably thinks her ideas are ace in the sense that she comes up with some radical solutions to tackle immigration. So I can see why some people who see immigration as a big issue may think she's ace as she's saying and suggesting stuff which other politicians are unwilling to say/do. Like you said though there's a stark difference between what one says and what one does. And we should judge people by what they do rather than what they say in my opinion. And for me this is why I see the tories as gas lighters because they say stuff which makes people think they're great. But when it comes to actioning said things they do very little. If immigration is a huge concern then people need to judge the parties by their actions in my opinion. And doubling immigration from 600k to 1.2 million would concern me if it was an issue close to my heart. And yes Labour politicians are also guilty of saying one thing while doing another. But at least everything ran much better under the last Labour government compared to the last 13 years in my opinion. I understand others may feel differently on that though and I welcome them to tell me what the tories have achieved in the last 13 years which shows they've done a better job. Exactly. If you are pro mass immigration you could describe Braverman as ace. But she is trying to massively reduce it and her policies and her hate filled rhetoric achieve the complete opposite! She is arguably the most incompetent member of government, and that is saying something. I keep on wondering 'weather' it'd have been better or worse to send Gullis on this mission, fag paper between them as the worst possible candidate 🤔 I suppose to be thankful for small mercies, he didn't get the chance to embarrass the city on an international stage as well as national 😐 |
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Post by wannabee on Sept 27, 2023 16:34:26 GMT
You say the Home Sec is ace. You haven’t said why. I said I think she is terrible. I have pointed out she has failed in every single objective in her role and why she is terrible (small boats are up, her solution is unlawful and she knew it was unlawful as she had to write on page 1 of the bill that it was unlawful, immigration as a whole at record levels, sexual assault charges and convictions at record lows, massive staff shortages because of immigration rules, £8m a day spent on housing asylum seekers waiting for their claims to be processed, record backlog in asylum seeker claims, a ruinous speech full of hate yesterday which is damaging to our country’s reputation and standing in the world). Do you see the difference in how much more persuasive an opinion is when backed up by the evidence in support of that opinion. Once more, i invite you to back up why you think she is ace. Probably thinks her ideas are ace in the sense that she comes up with some radical solutions to tackle immigration. So I can see why some people who see immigration as a big issue may think she's ace as she's saying and suggesting stuff which other politicians are unwilling to say/do. Like you said though there's a stark difference between what one says and what one does. And we should judge people by what they do rather than what they say in my opinion. And for me this is why I see the tories as gas lighters because they say stuff which makes people think they're great. But when it comes to actioning said things they do very little. If immigration is a huge concern then people need to judge the parties by their actions in my opinion. And doubling immigration from 600k to 1.2 million would concern me if it was an issue close to my heart. And yes Labour politicians are also guilty of saying one thing while doing another. But at least everything ran much better under the last Labour government compared to the last 13 years in my opinion. I understand others may feel differently on that though and I welcome them to tell me what the tories have achieved in the last 13 years which shows they've done a better job. Who knows what Aurelius thinks, personally I care less. When you say radical solutions I think you should replace with the word Lawless Both as Attorney General and Home Secretary she has introduced/approved New Legislation which knowingly breaks International Law. I say knowingly because it is a requirement to assess such a possibility and the assessment was brazenly written on the front page of each. I could be wrong but I doubt any previous holder of either Office in history has had such a cavalier attitude towards the Rule of Law |
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Sept 27, 2023 17:33:00 GMT
Doubt is not a pleasant condition, but certainty is absurd. Voltaire I agree, although you can be certain of some things . I'm certain I'm right on the things I say on here. This must be the rational and open adult debate that Foster was after when he took such umbrage with the banning of previously banned posters, like Crapslinger here. I trust we're all enjoying it...  |
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Post by aureliuspotter on Sept 27, 2023 17:35:15 GMT
I agree, although you can be certain of some things . I'm certain I'm right on the things I say on here. This must be the rational and open adult debate that Foster was after when he took such umbrage with the banning of previously banned posters, like Crapslinger here. I trust we're all enjoying it... Well he certainly wasn't on about your style of debating now was he 'chiprockets' 😉 |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 27, 2023 17:40:06 GMT
Chiprockets and crapslinger, sounds like a last minute cobbled together WWF tag team
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Post by emretezzy on Sept 27, 2023 18:30:42 GMT
Strange that the majority on here don’t hold this so called natural hatred towards different people that you and Suella share. Perhaps we are all more evolved and advanced than you. Survival of the fittest and all that. No hatred from me mate, you've just made that up. Despite not representing wider society or Stoke fans in general most people on here WILL agree with me. A lefty pile on is how the internet works. If you stepped away from your laptop every now and then and ventured out into the real world you'd see that it's you in the minority with your anti British views. It's not anti British to not be a fascist or racist. It's the exact thing we went to two world wars for to defend you absolute nugget. |
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Post by aureliuspotter on Sept 27, 2023 18:50:42 GMT
No hatred from me mate, you've just made that up. Despite not representing wider society or Stoke fans in general most people on here WILL agree with me. A lefty pile on is how the internet works. If you stepped away from your laptop every now and then and ventured out into the real world you'd see that it's you in the minority with your anti British views. It's not anti British to not be a fascist or racist. It's the exact thing we went to two world wars for to defend you absolute nugget. Couldn't agree more mate. Edit. That's not why we fought two world wars but I get the point you are trying to make and I agree with it. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Sept 27, 2023 22:57:00 GMT
What a pathetic little runt of a man ...
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Post by Paul Spencer on Sept 27, 2023 23:34:48 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Sept 28, 2023 4:49:12 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Sept 28, 2023 6:18:52 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Sept 28, 2023 6:29:08 GMT
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Sept 28, 2023 7:03:22 GMT
What a pathetic little runt of a man ... Still lying even there. Probably had a good laugh about it soon as the cameras stopped rolling! |
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Post by knype on Sept 28, 2023 8:06:36 GMT
See that the left are now trying to force Braverman out of her role...
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Sept 28, 2023 8:11:50 GMT
See that the left are now trying to force Braverman out of her role... Not really mate, just decent people who have no time for fascists. This includes people in her own party, so your claim is nonsense. |
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Post by elystokie on Sept 28, 2023 8:18:33 GMT
What a pathetic little runt of a man ... Still lying even there. Probably had a good laugh about it soon as the cameras stopped rolling! The satisfied grins on the faces of the SAS instructors when they pushed him in the lake told its own story 😃 |
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Post by knype on Sept 28, 2023 8:22:56 GMT
See that the left are now trying to force Braverman out of her role... Not really mate, just decent people who have no time for fascists. This includes people in her own party, so your claim is nonsense. Really... |
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Post by aureliuspotter on Sept 28, 2023 8:25:33 GMT
See that the left are now trying to force Braverman out of her role... It's what they do they're very big on cancel culture for people they don't agree with which just makes people more entrenched so actually has the opposite affect. I think she's ace. There are thousands more like her though so even when she's off the scene there are plenty of others that can and will fill her boots. |
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Post by oggyoggy on Sept 28, 2023 8:42:17 GMT
See that the left are now trying to force Braverman out of her role... It's what they do they're very big on cancel culture for people they don't agree with which just makes people more entrenched so actually has the opposite affect. I think she's ace. There are thousands more like her though so even when she's off the scene there are plenty of others that can and will fill her boots. Yes it is absolutely nothing to do with the fact she has utterly failed on her strict policy brief of stopping boats, reducing net migration and increasing sexual assault convictions. In fact, her actions have had the opposite impact on each of the above! I can understand that those who have pretty far right political views may love what she says, but they must absolutely hate what she actually does! And actions speak louder. |
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Post by phileetin on Sept 28, 2023 8:44:13 GMT
i've noticed huddys getting more and more aggressive and riled in response to comments he disagrees with lately .
i'm sure the non-lefties deserve to be called something other than scum , fascists and nazi's.
everyone should respect a persons right to comment even if the comment is unacceptable to their preferred reading material.
huddy you need to calm down a bit .
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