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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Sept 26, 2023 8:34:56 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Sept 26, 2023 9:06:39 GMT
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Post by essexstokey on Sept 26, 2023 9:26:46 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-66917025This is what you get giving contracts to the lowest bid and starving the NHS of funds Checks and measures need to be in place but that costs money something this government won't do as they want to fully privatise the NHS The NHS is not safe in there hands The NHS isn't starved of funds, the NHS gets more than enough but it gets wasted and those that run it couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery. I agree to some points you make especially about running of it but that was a political decision to introduce free markets to allow private firms in and set hospital against hospital it has seen a rise in administration and marketing that has seen these overtaking nurses and drs However per capita funding for the NHS has dramatically been cut at a time of higher costs This is why for years now I have said on here take out of political control recognise it nationalise purchasing scrap CEOs and a majority of bureaucrats stop marketing and bidding trust against trust stop lucrative contracts on agency staff where they can earn double for less work Go back to the old system of drs and nurses running the nhs
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Sept 26, 2023 9:28:28 GMT
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Post by aureliuspotter on Sept 26, 2023 10:29:34 GMT
This Barnaby bloke doesn't seem too bright.
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Post by Gawa on Sept 26, 2023 11:17:12 GMT
I think there's certainly a conversation which could be had in relation to the authenticity of people's claims. In the sense that a straight person could claim they are at risk due to being gay. But I don't think Suella is actually after a conversation. Just chasing another headline to invoke some pointless culture war again. These tories really want us to fight amongst ourselves. Why don't they just do their fucking job instead.
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Post by Eggybread on Sept 26, 2023 11:28:44 GMT
I think there's certainly a conversation which could be had in relation to the authenticity of people's claims. In the sense that a straight person could claim they are at risk due to being gay. But I don't think Suella is actually after a conversation. Just chasing another headline to invoke some pointless culture war again. These tories really want us to fight amongst ourselves. Why don't they just do their fucking job instead. "These tories really want us to fight amongst ourselves" They have always divided the public it deflects from their utter incompetence, its what they specialise in and are very good at it.
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Post by Eggybread on Sept 26, 2023 11:30:35 GMT
This Barnaby bloke doesn't seem too bright. What has he said that gives you that impression?
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Post by wannabee on Sept 26, 2023 12:16:18 GMT
It's almost as if the amount spent on NHS is a Political Choice, who knew, and there's a correlation between waiting lists and Patient outcomes The biggest chunk of NHS spending is on salary costs, about £80Bn. A more cynical person than me might speculate that if you wanted to keep this figure down you would not fill vacancies (or give inflation meeting pay increases) currently 112,000 or about 10% of the workforce. The rough calculated amount saved would therefore be about £8Bn Coincidentally £8Bn is the latest reported overspend on the mismanaged HS2 which may take you from Birmingham to Wormwood Scrubs in a few years time. World Beating
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Post by wannabee on Sept 26, 2023 12:49:21 GMT
What an appalling human being Just a coincidence the Supreme Court will begin hearing Rwanda appeal on 9th October First they came for ....
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Sept 26, 2023 13:04:56 GMT
What an appalling human being Just a coincidence the Supreme Court will begin hearing Rwanda appeal on 9th October First they came for .... Astonishing, especially when you consider her background.
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Post by phileetin on Sept 26, 2023 14:19:34 GMT
you've got to admit though that something has got to be done urgently look at southern europe and usa .
we can't afford / support the ones already here nevermind more . taxing the oil companies and increasing inheritance tax isn't going to solve it .
like suella says there are potentially 80 million people on the move across the globe .
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Post by aureliuspotter on Sept 26, 2023 15:50:17 GMT
What an appalling human being Just a coincidence the Supreme Court will begin hearing Rwanda appeal on 9th October First they came for .... Astonishing, especially when you consider her background. That's a racist thing to say mate, just because she's brown that doesn't mean she has to be woke. I know plenty of none white conservative people that by you standards would be classed as 'right wing'. You sound like Biden when he said "if you don't vote for me you aren't black" None whites are capable of independent thought as well you know. 🙄
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Post by oggyoggy on Sept 26, 2023 16:19:28 GMT
Astonishing, especially when you consider her background. That's a racist thing to say mate, just because she's brown that doesn't mean she has to be woke. I know plenty of none white conservative people that by you standards would be classed as 'right wing'. You sound like Biden when he said "if you don't vote for me you aren't black" None whites are capable of independent thought as well you know. 🙄 Can you list some of the good things Braverman has done as Home Sec then? What are her main achievements? You described her as “ace” on another thread but haven’t given one single reason for why you hold this opinion.
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Post by oggyoggy on Sept 26, 2023 17:12:08 GMT
you've got to admit though that something has got to be done urgently look at southern europe and usa . we can't afford / support the ones already here nevermind more . taxing the oil companies and increasing inheritance tax isn't going to solve it . like suella says there are potentially 80 million people on the move across the globe . I’m amazed she didn’t say 8 billion are on the move. It reminds me of brexit and Farage’s posters and leaflets which suggested the entire population of Turkey would be entering Britain if we voted remain. All lies of course. Immigration lawyers have utterly ridiculed Suella’s lies about discrimination versus persecution. Suella will do and say anything for attention.
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Post by Gawa on Sept 26, 2023 18:09:13 GMT
Astonishing, especially when you consider her background. That's a racist thing to say mate, just because she's brown that doesn't mean she has to be woke. I know plenty of none white conservative people that by you standards would be classed as 'right wing'. You sound like Biden when he said "if you don't vote for me you aren't black" None whites are capable of independent thought as well you know. 🙄 Mate what's her race got to do with anything? Was huddy not talking about her background as a leftie lawyer? 😉
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Post by aureliuspotter on Sept 26, 2023 18:10:44 GMT
That's a racist thing to say mate, just because she's brown that doesn't mean she has to be woke. I know plenty of none white conservative people that by you standards would be classed as 'right wing'. You sound like Biden when he said "if you don't vote for me you aren't black" None whites are capable of independent thought as well you know. 🙄 Mate what's her race got to do with anything? Was huddy not talking about her background as a leftie lawyer? 😉 Ah yes that's what he was on about....my bad 😉 😂
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Post by Gawa on Sept 26, 2023 18:17:58 GMT
Mate what's her race got to do with anything? Was huddy not talking about her background as a leftie lawyer? 😉 Ah yes that's what he was on about....my bad 😉 😂 I do like you so I do. 😀
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Post by aureliuspotter on Sept 26, 2023 18:20:07 GMT
Ah yes that's what he was on about....my bad 😉 😂 I do like you so I do. 😀 Ay up it's Jim Mcdonald so it is 😁
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Post by Paul Spencer on Sept 26, 2023 20:13:59 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Sept 26, 2023 21:05:11 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Sept 26, 2023 21:09:52 GMT
Astonishing, especially when you consider her background. That's a racist thing to say mate, just because she's brown that doesn't mean she has to be woke. I know plenty of none white conservative people that by you standards would be classed as 'right wing'. You sound like Biden when he said "if you don't vote for me you aren't black" None whites are capable of independent thought as well you know. 🙄 She's a fascist mate, pure and simple. Her colour which you brought in to the conversation is irrelevant. Now tell me by supporting her views, what does that makes you?
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Sept 26, 2023 21:13:05 GMT
That's a racist thing to say mate, just because she's brown that doesn't mean she has to be woke. I know plenty of none white conservative people that by you standards would be classed as 'right wing'. You sound like Biden when he said "if you don't vote for me you aren't black" None whites are capable of independent thought as well you know. 🙄 Can you list some of the good things Braverman has done as Home Sec then? What are her main achievements? You described her as “ace” on another thread but haven’t given one single reason for why you hold this opinion. Good luck with that. Wondering who "Aurelius" used to be? Anyone?
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Sept 26, 2023 21:23:01 GMT
Quite amusing how the racist scumbags reappear, attempting to be "clever". After 45 years of twatting fascists, I can spot one a mile off. They walk amongst us.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Sept 26, 2023 21:26:26 GMT
Jesus fucking Christ.....
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Post by Paul Spencer on Sept 26, 2023 21:28:59 GMT
It appears no.10 did indeed greenlight it. She is an utter monster, if getting thrown off tall buildings because you want to choose your own sexual partner isn't enough to warrant asylum, then god help us, it makes us a pariah on the world stage. She has completely embarrassed the UK today ...
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Post by peterthornesboots on Sept 26, 2023 21:46:24 GMT
Jesus fucking Christ..... Whenever I used to hear Priti Patel speak, I always felt like she knew exactly how horrible her plans and proposals were but simply did not care. When I hear Suella Braverman speak, I genuinely think that she has absolutely no idea what she is talking about or what the impact will be.
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Post by aureliuspotter on Sept 26, 2023 22:16:36 GMT
That's a racist thing to say mate, just because she's brown that doesn't mean she has to be woke. I know plenty of none white conservative people that by you standards would be classed as 'right wing'. You sound like Biden when he said "if you don't vote for me you aren't black" None whites are capable of independent thought as well you know. 🙄 She's a fascist mate, pure and simple. Her colour which you brought in to the conversation is irrelevant. Now tell me by supporting her views, what does that makes you? You think everyone that doesn't agree with you is a fascist though mate so it means nothing when it comes from you. I think she's ace I do, she'd make a good PM.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Sept 26, 2023 22:31:34 GMT
Let us not forget that Dale is a true blue Tory, through and through ...
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Post by Gawa on Sept 26, 2023 22:35:00 GMT
She's a fascist mate, pure and simple. Her colour which you brought in to the conversation is irrelevant. Now tell me by supporting her views, what does that makes you? You think everyone that doesn't agree with you is a fascist though mate so it means nothing when it comes from you. I think she's ace I do, she'd make a good PM. Post Mortem? 😜
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