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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 3, 2023 7:05:37 GMT
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Post by andystokey on Apr 3, 2023 8:12:46 GMT
Made me feel really sick this morning Paul. Why the BBC and LK let her get away with it is beyond me. Take a look at these stats and tell me that this is about Pakistani gangs. I'm apoplectic that she subverted the agenda on something so important and that the Tories have such an appalling record on. Then she decided to blame two Labour councils for turning a blind eye. rapecrisis.org.uk/get-informed/statistics-sexual-violence/Even worse than that her own Home Office found in 2020 thar was there was no evidence to suggest Muslim men were disproportionately responsible for grooming gangs. Rather the majority of grooming gangs were white males under the age of 30. How is a Home Secretary allowed to perpetuate a right wing trope disproven by her own office?www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/grooming-gangs-review-race-religion-home-office-b1774161.html Me too Andy, me too. I feel sick to the pit of my stomach, that we have such a racist, liar as Home Secretary, how did it ever come to this? How can we continue to allow the UK's reputation to be dragged into the gutter on the international stage by such a vile human being? She is absolute poison.
Object achieved for Bravermann and Sunak this morning. Front pages: The Times - Child abuse gangs fed by "political correctness" Express- "Woke politics putting women at risk" Telegraph- "Ethnicity of grooming gangs cannot be ignored, police told" The message is clear "Labour weak on Pakistani rapists on your streets. Ignore the fact that: 25% of women have been assaulted, mostly by white men they know. Over 70,000 rapes were recorded in 2022 the highest on record during this current government. In that period just 2600 were charged. On average it takes 2.3 years to reach court. Conviction rates are the lowest since records began. 5 million women in England and Wales have been raped or sexually assaulted since the age of 16. These are the real headlines: "White men predominately rape women they know and the Conservative party has presided over the worst conviction rate ever. "The Tories have presided over a rape pandemic 618,000 women and girls are raped or assaulted every year so probably someone you know. Of course Suella Bravermann might find it hard to discover these numbers because they come from the ONS, The Crown Prosecution Service and the Home Office. The last two she is in charge of. To play politics with this subject and mix in race for votes is an all time new low.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2023 8:36:46 GMT
Every single one of them, is a self-serving c&£t. Not at all surprising.
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Post by oggyoggy on Apr 3, 2023 8:46:30 GMT
Me too Andy, me too. I feel sick to the pit of my stomach, that we have such a racist, liar as Home Secretary, how did it ever come to this? How can we continue to allow the UK's reputation to be dragged into the gutter on the international stage by such a vile human being? She is absolute poison.
Object achieved for Bravermann and Sunak this morning. Front pages: The Times - Child abuse gangs fed by "political correctness" Express- "Woke politics putting women at risk" Telegraph- "Ethnicity of grooming gangs cannot be ignored, police told" The message is clear "Labour weak on Pakistani rapists on your streets. Ignore the fact that: 25% of women have been assaulted, mostly by white men they know. Over 70,000 rapes were recorded in 2022 the highest on record during this current government. In that period just 2600 were charged. On average it takes 2.3 years to reach court. Conviction rates are the lowest since records began. 5 million women in England and Wales have been raped or sexually assaulted since the age of 16. These are the real headlines: "White men predominately rape women they know and the Conservative party has presided over the worst conviction rate ever. "The Tories have presided over a rape pandemic 618,000 women and girls are raped or assaulted every year so probably someone you know. Of course Suella Bravermann might find it hard to discover these numbers because they come from the ONS, The Crown Prosecution Service and the Home Office. The last two she is in charge of. To play politics with this subject and mix in race for votes is an all time new low. It isn’t a race or ethnicity issue. It is predominantly a male issue. Why are there so many awful men out there? Why don’t the authorities do more to protect vulnerable people? Because the Home Sec is a racist bigot who only cares about culture wars rather than doing her job. She should be sacked immediately.
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Post by oggyoggy on Apr 3, 2023 8:47:45 GMT
Every single one of them, is a self-serving c&£t. Not at all surprising. No, not all of them. Just many of those in government currently are.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 3, 2023 12:29:39 GMT
And Braverman has the gall to demonise people claiming benefits. She's probably the most vile and disgusting MP to sit in the House during my lifetime.
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Post by elystokie on Apr 3, 2023 12:43:57 GMT
And Braverman has the gall to demonise people claiming benefits. She's probably the most vile and disgusting MP to sit in the House during my lifetime. You're probably right, Gullis is a contender but as they probably only trust him to be a milk monitor or similar he doesn't have anywhere near the same 'impact'. I can't see the people of Stoke north voting Gullis in again, ever, just hope the people of Fareham come to the same realisation next time around.
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Post by wannabee on Apr 3, 2023 13:52:59 GMT
And Braverman has the gall to demonise people claiming benefits. She's probably the most vile and disgusting MP to sit in the House during my lifetime. You're probably right, Gullis is a contender but as they probably only trust him to be a milk monitor or similar he doesn't have anywhere near the same 'impact'. I can't see the people of Stoke north voting Gullis in again, ever, just hope the people of Fareham come to the same realisation next time around.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 3, 2023 13:55:25 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Apr 3, 2023 13:58:08 GMT
And Braverman has the gall to demonise people claiming benefits. She's probably the most vile and disgusting MP to sit in the House during my lifetime. You're probably right, Gullis is a contender but as they probably only trust him to be a milk monitor or similar he doesn't have anywhere near the same 'impact'. I can't see the people of Stoke north voting Gullis in again, ever, just hope the people of Fareham come to the same realisation next time around. Interstingly, her consituency is about to disappear under boundary changes and she's up for the nomination with another Tory, Flick Drummond. Rumours are she may well struggle.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2023 14:08:36 GMT
Me too Andy, me too. I feel sick to the pit of my stomach, that we have such a racist, liar as Home Secretary, how did it ever come to this? How can we continue to allow the UK's reputation to be dragged into the gutter on the international stage by such a vile human being? She is absolute poison.
Object achieved for Bravermann and Sunak this morning. Front pages: The Times - Child abuse gangs fed by "political correctness" Express- "Woke politics putting women at risk" Telegraph- "Ethnicity of grooming gangs cannot be ignored, police told" The message is clear "Labour weak on Pakistani rapists on your streets. Ignore the fact that: 25% of women have been assaulted, mostly by white men they know. Over 70,000 rapes were recorded in 2022 the highest on record during this current government. In that period just 2600 were charged. On average it takes 2.3 years to reach court. Conviction rates are the lowest since records began. 5 million women in England and Wales have been raped or sexually assaulted since the age of 16. These are the real headlines: "White men predominately rape women they know and the Conservative party has presided over the worst conviction rate ever. "The Tories have presided over a rape pandemic 618,000 women and girls are raped or assaulted every year so probably someone you know. Of course Suella Bravermann might find it hard to discover these numbers because they come from the ONS, The Crown Prosecution Service and the Home Office. The last two she is in charge of. To play politics with this subject and mix in race for votes is an all time new low. It’s quite laughable that a Conservative government can blame “woke politics” given that they have been in power for so long. Who are they blaming but themselves?
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 3, 2023 14:18:13 GMT
You're probably right, Gullis is a contender but as they probably only trust him to be a milk monitor or similar he doesn't have anywhere near the same 'impact'. I can't see the people of Stoke north voting Gullis in again, ever, just hope the people of Fareham come to the same realisation next time around. Interstingly, her consituency is about to disappear under boundary changes and she's up for the nomination with another Tory, Flick Drummond. Rumours are she may well struggle. I was aware of this but I didn't think it was happening until the summer. I had absolutely no idea that it's actually happening THIS Wednesday (no wonder Braverman was all over our screens on Sunday morning!) So what happens if Braverman loses, what will be the procedure immediately following her loss? (Although it wouldn't be hard to believe that it's already been rigged).
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Apr 3, 2023 14:22:03 GMT
Interstingly, her consituency is about to disappear under boundary changes and she's up for the nomination with another Tory, Flick Drummond. Rumours are she may well struggle. I was aware of this but I didn't think it was happening until the summer. I had absolutely no idea that it's actually happening THIS Wednesday (no wonder Braverman was all over our screens on Sunday morning!) So what happens if Braverman loses, what will be the procedure immediately following her loss? (Although it wouldn't be hard to believe that it's already been rigged). The article I read stated that "she doesn't perform well" at selection meetings. Also that she might struggle to find a seat as a result.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 3, 2023 14:29:44 GMT
I was aware of this but I didn't think it was happening until the summer. I had absolutely no idea that it's actually happening THIS Wednesday (no wonder Braverman was all over our screens on Sunday morning!) So what happens if Braverman loses, what will be the procedure immediately following her loss? (Although it wouldn't be hard to believe that it's already been rigged). The article I read stated that "she doesn't perform well" at selection meetings. Also that she might struggle to find a seat as a result. What I was getting at is, would she instantly be no longer an MP and out of a job as Home Sec. or does a period of time need to elapse, whilst she looks for a safer seat to contest?
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Apr 3, 2023 14:33:18 GMT
The article I read stated that "she doesn't perform well" at selection meetings. Also that she might struggle to find a seat as a result. What I was getting at is, would she instantly be no longer an MP and out of a job as Home Sec. or does a period of time need to elapse, whilst she looks for a safer seat to contest? She could keep looking until time expires (i.e. no more constituencies are organising selections), no idea what that time is as different constituencies select at different times. Technically she could fail to get a nomination anywhere, although I do find that unlikely.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Apr 3, 2023 14:34:04 GMT
The article I read stated that "she doesn't perform well" at selection meetings. Also that she might struggle to find a seat as a result. What I was getting at is, would she instantly be no longer an MP and out of a job as Home Sec. or does a period of time need to elapse, whilst she looks for a safer seat to contest? Sorry Paul, she would still be an MP until the next election for her current constituency.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 3, 2023 14:39:11 GMT
What I was getting at is, would she instantly be no longer an MP and out of a job as Home Sec. or does a period of time need to elapse, whilst she looks for a safer seat to contest? Sorry Paul, she would still be an MP until the next election for her current constituency. As I thought, thanks for clearing that up mate.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Apr 3, 2023 15:48:53 GMT
Object achieved for Bravermann and Sunak this morning. Front pages: The Times - Child abuse gangs fed by "political correctness" Express- "Woke politics putting women at risk" Telegraph- "Ethnicity of grooming gangs cannot be ignored, police told" The message is clear "Labour weak on Pakistani rapists on your streets. Ignore the fact that: 25% of women have been assaulted, mostly by white men they know. Over 70,000 rapes were recorded in 2022 the highest on record during this current government. In that period just 2600 were charged. On average it takes 2.3 years to reach court. Conviction rates are the lowest since records began. 5 million women in England and Wales have been raped or sexually assaulted since the age of 16. These are the real headlines: "White men predominately rape women they know and the Conservative party has presided over the worst conviction rate ever. "The Tories have presided over a rape pandemic 618,000 women and girls are raped or assaulted every year so probably someone you know. Of course Suella Bravermann might find it hard to discover these numbers because they come from the ONS, The Crown Prosecution Service and the Home Office. The last two she is in charge of. To play politics with this subject and mix in race for votes is an all time new low. It’s quite laughable that a Conservative government can blame “woke politics” given that they have been in power for so long. Who are they blaming but themselves? Well, they always need someone to deflect the blame onto, so they have created, along with their client Tory press, this nebulous and elusive thing called, variously, the liberal elite, the metropolitan elite, the left-wing economic establishment, etc etc as a means of trying to suggest two things essentially. The first is that, despite the overwhelming majority of the Conservative Party being drawn from the old, white, male, public school educated establishment, they are really normal, salt of the earth types who watch Corrie, like a chippie tea and spend their summer holidays having full English breakfasts and getting pissed watching the footie in O'Neills Irish bar in Torremolinos. The second is that, if only it wasn't for this wicked establishment elite (which they're not really part of, honest) stopping them from doing what they want to do (don't think too much about who actually has the power to make laws, especially with an 80 seat majority!) there would be no immigrants, low inflation, no crumbling schools nor failing health service. After 13 years of the country going steadily down the shitter, you'd think most people would see through this, but there are roughly 25-30% of the electorate who either can't or simply don't care if the country goes down the shitter so long as it's their side which flushed it away.
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Post by gawa on Apr 3, 2023 16:06:56 GMT
What I was getting at is, would she instantly be no longer an MP and out of a job as Home Sec. or does a period of time need to elapse, whilst she looks for a safer seat to contest? Sorry Paul, she would still be an MP until the next election for her current constituency. Suella is a bit like Rishi in the sense that she's a candidate selected by the party not the people. She failed to be elected in Leicester and Sussex before being shoe horned into Fareham, a constituency which has always voted Conservative. Sunak has a similar background in the sense that he was shoe horned into a seat which has only voted tory for 100 years. Most of their ethnic minority candidates have a similar background of being carefully selected and placed in the safest seats miles away from where they were brought up. What better way to peddle racism though than to get an ethnic minority spouting it? And the easiest way to get an ethnic minority into a racist party is to make them stand for the safest seats where the voters probably don't even look at the name of the candidate they're voting for.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Apr 3, 2023 16:46:49 GMT
Sorry Paul, she would still be an MP until the next election for her current constituency. Suella is a bit like Rishi in the sense that she's a candidate selected by the party not the people. She failed to be elected in Leicester and Sussex before being shoe horned into Fareham, a constituency which has always voted Conservative. Sunak has a similar background in the sense that he was shoe horned into a seat which has only voted tory for 100 years. Most of their ethnic minority candidates have a similar background of being carefully selected and placed in the safest seats miles away from where they were brought up. What better way to peddle racism though than to get an ethnic minority spouting it? And the easiest way to get an ethnic minority into a racist party is to make them stand for the safest seats where the voters probably don't even look at the name of the candidate they're voting for. There is a lot of tokenism in the Tory Party. If you look at the make up of the entire parliamentary party it's, not surprisingly, generally old, white and male and compares pretty unfavourably with all the other parties in terms of representativeness of the population as a whole. Yet, there are prominent non-white non-males in Cabinet and, of course, as PM (although the latter only because the parliamentary party prevented a vote on the matter!). I suppose if you were being generous you'd say that these people have earned their places entirely on merit and that would be entirely right and proper, but then you look at the outputs from Braverman, Patel etc and it just can't be the case!
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Apr 3, 2023 17:19:55 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Apr 4, 2023 6:24:07 GMT
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Post by wannabee on Apr 4, 2023 13:56:56 GMT
It's unusual to see a reporter doing his Job well (I don't know who he is?) To such an extent he hit Rishi in the solar plexus and followed up with a thunderous upper cut to the chin causing Rishi to lose his voice. Blow No 1: Reporter asks Rishi why doesn't he accept the Home Office Report of 2 years ago commissioned by Priti Patel which found no evidence of disproportionate sexual exploitation by Asian/Muslims. Reporter persists and asks why Cruella is setting up Task Forces to fix an imaginary problem The majority of child sexual abuse gangs are made up of white men under the age of 30, an official paper has said.
The report, which covers England, Scotland and Wales and summarises a range of studies on the issue of group-based child sexual exploitation (CSE), also known as grooming gangs, said there was not enough evidence to conclude that child sexual abuse gangs were disproportionately made up of Asian offenders. www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2020/dec/15/child-sexual-abuse-gangs-white-men-home-office-reportBlow No 2: With Rishi waffling on and refusing to answer the question asked Rishi talks about setting up safeguarding rules. This is when Reporter delivered his knockout blow by reminding him Labour had called for this 10 years ago Magnificent
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 4, 2023 16:15:10 GMT
Contemptible pricks
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 4, 2023 16:36:32 GMT
This is absolutely beyond belief, it's like you can't imagine they could go any lower but (seemingly almost each day now) they somehow manage to do so. Not only is it absolutely criminal on a personal level for those poor individuals but just what message are we sending out to the rest of the world? That we have become a pernicious right wing state that cannot be trusted.
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Post by yeswilko on Apr 4, 2023 17:00:54 GMT
This is absolutely beyond belief, it's like you can't imagine they could go any lower but (seemingly almost each day now) they somehow manage to do so. Not only is it absolutely criminal on a personal level for those poor individuals but just what message are we sending out to the rest of the world? That we have become a pernicious right wing state that cannot be trusted. What incredible people come from Nepal as well.. really strong and unbreakable mentality in many ways. Our government's treatment of them is sickening.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Apr 4, 2023 21:58:27 GMT
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Post by 828492 on Apr 4, 2023 22:31:39 GMT
This is exactly the sort of financial abuse the Home Secratory (sic) should be making the Metropolitan Police prosecute. Remind me, just who is the Home Secretory (sic) for the time being?
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Apr 5, 2023 15:39:13 GMT
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Post by andystokey on Apr 5, 2023 15:58:43 GMT
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