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Post by gawa on Mar 9, 2023 11:38:19 GMT
You wanted to add young men looking for work and a better life on to this group of apparent "criminals". No I did not As I have said on many occasions immigration has brought many good things to this country What I was pointing out is how come when producing a piece of propaganda do the producer clearly leave out over fifty percent of the people Are they any less important ? Do they not pull on the heart strings enough ? Or does it suit political agendas to only publish certain parts of the truth It references people with medical needs, people with wheelchairs, people fleeing to be reunited with family, people desperately fleeing unsafe places. Can young men not fit into these groups? It doesn't reference elderly men, it doesn't reference young women. It does mention pregnant women but these are a small percentage of the women claiming asylum. So a large percentage of women unaccounted for too. Why not ask about these groups? I'd be more concerned about the fact that 72% of asylum applications in 2021 were granted by the UK which is the highest percentage since 1990. If young men are coming over here for criminal activity then why are the UK gov accepting 82% of applications, especially if most are apparently young men. Or is it propoganda from the government that they're not all criminals entering the country? How can a government describe them as criminals when the government accepts over 72% of the requests? Now that sounds like propoganda to me. And when it comes to producing unbiased data. Surely the government should be held to higher standards than random people publishing videos? It's like me comparing propoganda from Andrew Tate to the conservatives. I sort of expect the acting government to hold higher standards than a random YouTuber. " Almost three quarters (72%) of the initial decisions in 2021 were grants (of asylum, humanitarian protection or alternative forms of leave), which is substantially higher than the previous years. For much of the past decade, around a third of initial decisions were grants. The grant rate in 2021 is the highest grant rate in over thirty years (since 82% in 1990)." Source - www.gov.uk/government/statistics/immigration-statistics-year-ending-december-2021/how-many-people-do-we-grant-asylum-or-protection-to
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Post by yeswilko on Mar 9, 2023 11:39:11 GMT
You wanted to add young men looking for work and a better life on to this group of apparent "criminals". No I did not As I have said on many occasions immigration has brought many good things to this country What I was pointing out is how come when producing a piece of propaganda do the producer clearly leave out over fifty percent of the people Are they any less important ? Do they not pull on the heart strings enough ? Or does it suit political agendas to only publish certain parts of the truth If you cant claim asylum from outside the UK, then you have to get here illegally to claim asylum. They're all criminals, no matter the circumstances. Its ridiculous.
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Post by wagsastokie on Mar 9, 2023 11:50:54 GMT
No I did not As I have said on many occasions immigration has brought many good things to this country What I was pointing out is how come when producing a piece of propaganda do the producer clearly leave out over fifty percent of the people Are they any less important ? Do they not pull on the heart strings enough ? Or does it suit political agendas to only publish certain parts of the truth If you cant claim asylum from outside the UK, then you have to get here illegally to claim asylum. They're all criminals, no matter the circumstances. Its ridiculous. I fully agree it’s ridiculous There should be a office British embassy in Paris should be adequate where any legitimate asylum seeker is able to produce passport or other documents/ mobile phone to prove identification etc And if found to be legitimate we then can fly them direct to the uk Safely By all means I’m fully in favour of legal routes of entry
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 9, 2023 12:14:22 GMT
Bit sloppy that film They forgot to add your a perfectly fit young male in late teens early twenties fleeing safe country’s trying to make a Bob or two They didn't forget at all, that's the entire POINT of the video ... legitimate asylum seekers, in status, have now become no different to economic migrants.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 9, 2023 12:15:46 GMT
If you cant claim asylum from outside the UK, then you have to get here illegally to claim asylum. They're all criminals, no matter the circumstances. Its ridiculous. I fully agree it’s ridiculous There should be a office British embassy in Paris should be adequate where any legitimate asylum seeker is able to produce passport or other documents/ mobile phone to prove identification etc And if found to be legitimate we then can fly them direct to the uk Safely By all means I’m fully in favour of legal routes of entry Macron has already offered to host UK processing centres on French soil but we turned the offer down.
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Post by wagsastokie on Mar 9, 2023 12:20:12 GMT
I fully agree it’s ridiculous There should be a office British embassy in Paris should be adequate where any legitimate asylum seeker is able to produce passport or other documents/ mobile phone to prove identification etc And if found to be legitimate we then can fly them direct to the uk Safely By all means I’m fully in favour of legal routes of entry Macron has already offered to host UK processing centres on French soil but we turned the offer down. His new best mate rishi hasn’t as yet I quite expect to see an announcement soon
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Mar 9, 2023 12:30:32 GMT
Grrrr, immigrants, grrrr foreigners. Hope you didn't move to Norfolk from Stoke for economic reasons, waga! No never lived in Stoke or anywhere near Phew, you're off the hook then. Unless you moved from elsewhere for economic reasons, of course
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Mar 9, 2023 12:35:53 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2023 12:44:39 GMT
I wouldn’t say that he’s a disgrace to the profession unless he was saying it live on air. That said, I think it’s a good example of why I dislike Twitter so much. In this instance, I agree that the “new” messages coming out of the Conservative Party are archaic, troubling and dangerous. However, your tweet is judged through your popularity, not your understanding of a situation. I prefer to get my news from journalists and my opinions from experts. The less time people spend on Twitter, the happier they are.
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Post by dutchstokie on Mar 9, 2023 12:58:00 GMT
Bit sloppy that film They forgot to add your a perfectly fit young male in late teens early twenties fleeing safe country’s trying to make a Bob or two Dont forget the mobile phone they 'cant afford' .....oh and the cigarettes. (Probably picked em up at duty free though )
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Mar 9, 2023 13:00:36 GMT
I wouldn’t say that he’s a disgrace to the profession unless he was saying it live on air. That said, I think it’s a good example of why I dislike Twitter so much. In this instance, I agree that the “new” messages coming out of the Conservative Party are archaic, troubling and dangerous. However, your tweet is judged through your popularity, not your understanding of a situation. I prefer to get my news from journalists and my opinions from experts. The less time people spend on Twitter, the happier they are. It's a parody account mate.
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Post by dutchstokie on Mar 9, 2023 13:01:40 GMT
I wouldn’t say that he’s a disgrace to the profession unless he was saying it live on air. That said, I think it’s a good example of why I dislike Twitter so much. In this instance, I agree that the “new” messages coming out of the Conservative Party are archaic, troubling and dangerous. However, your tweet is judged through your popularity, not your understanding of a situation. I prefer to get my news from journalists and my opinions from experts. The less time people spend on Twitter, the happier they are. Is it only me that sees the irony of you re-posting a post from Huddy with the words _ "The less time people spend on Twitter, the happier they are" The amount of anger and angst Huddy portrays towards the Tories, it might well be a good idea to take head of this advice......
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Mar 9, 2023 13:20:24 GMT
I wouldn’t say that he’s a disgrace to the profession unless he was saying it live on air. That said, I think it’s a good example of why I dislike Twitter so much. In this instance, I agree that the “new” messages coming out of the Conservative Party are archaic, troubling and dangerous. However, your tweet is judged through your popularity, not your understanding of a situation. I prefer to get my news from journalists and my opinions from experts. The less time people spend on Twitter, the happier they are. Is it only me that sees the irony of you re-posting a post from Huddy with the words _ "The less time people spend on Twitter, the happier they are" The amount of anger and angst Huddy portrays towards the Tories, it might well be a good idea to take head of this advice...... I'd rather take "heed" than "head" if OK with you
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Post by gawa on Mar 9, 2023 13:26:03 GMT
I wouldn’t say that he’s a disgrace to the profession unless he was saying it live on air. That said, I think it’s a good example of why I dislike Twitter so much. In this instance, I agree that the “new” messages coming out of the Conservative Party are archaic, troubling and dangerous. However, your tweet is judged through your popularity, not your understanding of a situation. I prefer to get my news from journalists and my opinions from experts. The less time people spend on Twitter, the happier they are. Is it only me that sees the irony of you re-posting a post from Huddy with the words _ "The less time people spend on Twitter, the happier they are" The amount of anger and angst Huddy portrays towards the Tories, it might well be a good idea to take head of this advice...... I find it more alarming the people who go out of their way to try and insult huddy on here rather than debate with him. Why are you being such a sensitive snowflake over it all? If you don't agree with his views then challenge him and debate it like an adult. But it seems more like you don't agree with his views but also have a distinct inability to challenge them and debate them cohorently. So all you and your cronies can do is throw insults. The phrase "rent free" comes to mind. If only politics was as easy as playground insults. "you wokarati silly sausage" "oh yeh well if I'm a wokarati silly sausage. Then you're a gammonazi with pineapple".
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Post by dutchstokie on Mar 9, 2023 13:33:17 GMT
Is it only me that sees the irony of you re-posting a post from Huddy with the words _ "The less time people spend on Twitter, the happier they are" The amount of anger and angst Huddy portrays towards the Tories, it might well be a good idea to take head of this advice...... I'd rather take "heed" than "head" if OK with you Mate I sincerely hope you do !!!!!
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Post by dutchstokie on Mar 9, 2023 13:37:35 GMT
Is it only me that sees the irony of you re-posting a post from Huddy with the words _ "The less time people spend on Twitter, the happier they are" The amount of anger and angst Huddy portrays towards the Tories, it might well be a good idea to take head of this advice...... I find it more alarming the people who go out of their way to try and insult huddy on here rather than debate with him. Why are you being such a sensitive snowflake over it all? If you don't agree with his views then challenge him and debate it like an adult. But it seems more like you don't agree with his views but also have a distinct inability to challenge them and debate them cohorently. So all you and your cronies can do is throw insults. The phrase "rent free" comes to mind. If only politics was as easy as playground insults. "you wokarati silly sausage" "oh yeh well if I'm a wokarati silly sausage. Then you're a gammonazi with pineapple". It would be handy gawa, if Huddy actually did post his OWN views instead of just cut and pasting fuckin twitter feeds evey 5 minutes - THAT would be a start. Its just a message board at the end of the day and its the only joy I get at work, reading the threads and being a beligerent old fart...... Nobody 'wins' the debate as it just goes back and forth Ive gone past giving a toss to what anyone thinks of me on here.... Im happy thanks
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Post by gawa on Mar 9, 2023 13:56:07 GMT
I find it more alarming the people who go out of their way to try and insult huddy on here rather than debate with him. Why are you being such a sensitive snowflake over it all? If you don't agree with his views then challenge him and debate it like an adult. But it seems more like you don't agree with his views but also have a distinct inability to challenge them and debate them cohorently. So all you and your cronies can do is throw insults. The phrase "rent free" comes to mind. If only politics was as easy as playground insults. "you wokarati silly sausage" "oh yeh well if I'm a wokarati silly sausage. Then you're a gammonazi with pineapple". It would be handy gawa, if Huddy actually did post his OWN views instead of just cut and pasting fuckin twitter feeds evey 5 minutes - THAT would be a start. Its just a message board at the end of the day and its the only joy I get at work, reading the threads and being a beligerent old fart...... Nobody 'wins' the debate as it just goes back and forth Ive gone past giving a toss to what anyone thinks of me on here.... Im happy thanks I appreciate the twitter posts myself because a lot of the content is stuff which seems to go unreported by the main stream media. I see them as conversation starters where we can then quote them and discuss the contents of the tweet. I just don't understand why people go out of their way to speak about the person posting the content rather than the content itself. If it doesn't interest you then move on. :/ Meh is what it is. Edit: Plus I prefer how tweets appear in the forum. If I just post a link to a news article then less people will view it compared to a tweet. Because tweets at least allow you to watch the videos embedded or to view the content within the thread itself. Whereas an article to a website doesn't give any sort of preview so people are less likely to view it.
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Post by dutchstokie on Mar 9, 2023 14:04:19 GMT
It would be handy gawa, if Huddy actually did post his OWN views instead of just cut and pasting fuckin twitter feeds evey 5 minutes - THAT would be a start. Its just a message board at the end of the day and its the only joy I get at work, reading the threads and being a beligerent old fart...... Nobody 'wins' the debate as it just goes back and forth Ive gone past giving a toss to what anyone thinks of me on here.... Im happy thanks I appreciate the twitter posts myself because a lot of the content is stuff which seems to go unreported by the main stream media. I see them as conversation starters where we can then quote them and discuss the contents of the tweet. I just don't understand why people go out of their way to speak about the person posting the content rather than the content itself. If it doesn't interest you then move on. :/ Meh is what it is. Edit: Plus I prefer how tweets appear in the forum. If I just post a link to a news article then less people will view it compared to a tweet. Because tweets at least allow you to watch the videos embedded or to view the content within the thread itself. Whereas an article to a website doesn't give any sort of preview so people are less likely to view it. I dont rate or use Twitter..... I simply dont trust any of the content on there whatsoever. You see so much made up nonsense on there, I personally find it very hard do decipher whats real and whats just made up lies and clickbait. Its been proven time and time again on here, ( and has been proven) where someone uses a tweet to gain a 'political point' when actually it was totally false and was actually used in a completely non related thread.... any one remember ? People take Twitter and social media to heart and FAR too seriously....but hey thats just my opinion.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 9, 2023 14:42:59 GMT
It would be handy gawa, if Huddy actually did post his OWN views instead of just cut and pasting fuckin twitter feeds evey 5 minutes - THAT would be a start. Its just a message board at the end of the day and its the only joy I get at work, reading the threads and being a beligerent old fart...... Nobody 'wins' the debate as it just goes back and forth Ive gone past giving a toss to what anyone thinks of me on here.... Im happy thanks I appreciate the twitter posts myself because a lot of the content is stuff which seems to go unreported by the main stream media. I see them as conversation starters where we can then quote them and discuss the contents of the tweet. I just don't understand why people go out of their way to speak about the person posting the content rather than the content itself. If it doesn't interest you then move on. :/ Meh is what it is. Edit: Plus I prefer how tweets appear in the forum. If I just post a link to a news article then less people will view it compared to a tweet. Because tweets at least allow you to watch the videos embedded or to view the content within the thread itself. Whereas an article to a website doesn't give any sort of preview so people are less likely to view it. Agree with all of that gawa. The Today in Clown World thread wouldn't exist without twitter. As you say, they are conversation starters and have become essential when discussing factual topics because they (as you also say) attract far more attention than a hyperlink does to a story.
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Post by foster on Mar 9, 2023 14:50:18 GMT
I appreciate the twitter posts myself because a lot of the content is stuff which seems to go unreported by the main stream media. I see them as conversation starters where we can then quote them and discuss the contents of the tweet. I just don't understand why people go out of their way to speak about the person posting the content rather than the content itself. If it doesn't interest you then move on. :/ Meh is what it is. Edit: Plus I prefer how tweets appear in the forum. If I just post a link to a news article then less people will view it compared to a tweet. Because tweets at least allow you to watch the videos embedded or to view the content within the thread itself. Whereas an article to a website doesn't give any sort of preview so people are less likely to view it. I dont rate or use Twitter..... I simply dont trust any of the content on there whatsoever. You see so much made up nonsense on there, I personally find it very hard do decipher whats real and whats just made up lies and clickbait. Its been proven time and time again on here, ( and has been proven) where someone uses a tweet to gain a 'political point' when actually it was totally false and was actually used in a completely non related thread.... any one remember ? People take Twitter and social media to heart and FAR too seriously....but hey thats just my opinion. I agree. It's not referred to as 'Twatter' for nothing, and I certainly won't be using a platform that puts money in Musks pocket. Worst thing is you get these saddo's that spend all their time retweeting and posting twitter links everywhere, like it's fact.
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Post by dutchstokie on Mar 9, 2023 14:56:56 GMT
I appreciate the twitter posts myself because a lot of the content is stuff which seems to go unreported by the main stream media. I see them as conversation starters where we can then quote them and discuss the contents of the tweet. I just don't understand why people go out of their way to speak about the person posting the content rather than the content itself. If it doesn't interest you then move on. :/ Meh is what it is. Edit: Plus I prefer how tweets appear in the forum. If I just post a link to a news article then less people will view it compared to a tweet. Because tweets at least allow you to watch the videos embedded or to view the content within the thread itself. Whereas an article to a website doesn't give any sort of preview so people are less likely to view it. Agree with all of that gawa. The Today in Clown World thread wouldn't exist without twitter. As you say, they are conversation starters and have become essential when discussing factual topics because they (as you also say) attract far more attention than a hyperlink does to a story.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 9, 2023 15:09:39 GMT
Agree with all of that gawa. The Today in Clown World thread wouldn't exist without twitter. As you say, they are conversation starters and have become essential when discussing factual topics because they (as you also say) attract far more attention than a hyperlink does to a story. Such a talented comedian, taken from us far too soon. I won't bother posting any tweets from Ukrainan soldiers on the front line, to counter the point you were attempting to make.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Mar 9, 2023 15:18:08 GMT
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Post by andystokey on Mar 9, 2023 15:19:55 GMT
Frank Bough was too busy wearing a leather gimp mask and a cardigan. All things he learned in the streets of Fenton growing up.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 9, 2023 15:30:48 GMT
"The country needs a team captain with a plan." What an utterly stupid thing for Mordaunt to say (although it is of course true). Doesn't she realise, that is something that would be said by an opposition party, not by the party IN power. Embarrassing.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Mar 9, 2023 15:32:23 GMT
Twitter's great if you just mute or block dick heads and just use it for up to date news, especially on topics you might not otherwise read about.
Not sure why anyone would question the validity of some of the news on there whilst reading shite like The Sun, The Mail or The Guardian?
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Post by foster on Mar 9, 2023 15:35:54 GMT
"The country needs a team captain with a plan." What an utterly stupid thing for Mordaunt to say (although it is of course true). Doesn't she realise, that is something that would be said by an opposition party, not by the party IN power. Embarrassing. Sounds like a 'Bring back Boris' line...maybe
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Mar 9, 2023 15:47:21 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 9, 2023 18:53:56 GMT
Don’t forget folks. Big Nige. GB News pub. Talking Pints. 7pm. Every Thursday night. You’d be a fool to miss it!
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Mar 9, 2023 19:12:39 GMT
Mad isn't it. A party that wants to get rid of foreigners, get rid of unions that protect the people and then stop it's people from being able to protest and some are somehow still shocked and stunned when comparisons to 1930s Germany come up.
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