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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 1, 2023 18:56:29 GMT
You want a far left government? I think what he means is that he thinks our best chance of any progressive change is through getting the tory out and Labour are most likely to be able to oust them. And he feels thst those who consider themselves more left than centre should vote Labour even if they don't like Starmer. I’ll let him answer the question but that’s kind of why I asked it.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 1, 2023 18:59:39 GMT
Whately has stood up in the HOC today and brazenly lied through her back teeth (it isn't even up for debate). Really, (at the very minimum) she should be suspended from the House, pending further investigation.
If you didn't know about asymptomatic transmission, then just what the fuck was your justification for locking us all up?
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Post by gawa on Mar 1, 2023 19:31:03 GMT
I think what he means is that he thinks our best chance of any progressive change is through getting the tory out and Labour are most likely to be able to oust them. And he feels thst those who consider themselves more left than centre should vote Labour even if they don't like Starmer. I’ll let him answer the question but that’s kind of why I asked it. Now now. No need to be passive aggressive now Mr badger.
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Post by Davef on Mar 1, 2023 19:33:57 GMT
Every last one of these bastards is - and has been - lying through their teeth.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 1, 2023 19:37:18 GMT
I’ll let him answer the question but that’s kind of why I asked it. Now now. No need to be passive aggressive now Mr badger. Badgers don’t do passive aggressive, another woke leftie term😉
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Post by slash on Mar 1, 2023 21:16:11 GMT
we also need the far left to accept that if we want progressive change, we need to begin with a Labour government in power, so go and vote even if you don't like the candidate. You want a far left government? not the way the current political climate is, but i do want a government that will prioritise the 99% over the 1%, and the tories have shown time and time again that isn't their agenda. i do also wish to avoid the far left as they are now, because i don't believe in racism or sexism having place in society and transgender and wokeness is just that.
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Post by slash on Mar 1, 2023 21:26:07 GMT
Whately has stood up in the HOC today and brazenly lied through her back teeth (it isn't even up for debate). Really, (at the very minimum) she should be suspended from the House, pending further investigation. If you didn't know about asymptomatic transmission, then just what the fuck was your justification for locking us all up? tories quite often talk about things they know nothing about, but one openly lying? i, for one, am shocked. who on earth could have seen this coming? and if a tory would lie about this, what other covid related things may they have fibbed on? garden parties? transmission rates? i'll need a mo' to wrap my head around this.
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Post by toppercorner on Mar 1, 2023 23:20:43 GMT
teachers generally do more work in a morning than tory mp does in year.
i mean boris is just a slave to the old westminster working life ....
this is what the likes of williamson and handcock think of them.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Mar 2, 2023 7:23:12 GMT
They are laughing at you...
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Mar 2, 2023 15:28:45 GMT
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Post by PotteringThrough on Mar 2, 2023 16:01:24 GMT
It’s an utterly bizarre situation given that he knew who he was getting into bed with to write his “hero” book. I wonder if all the WhatsApp messages have been released or if certain people are being protected and we’ve not got full disclosure (which of course the only reason Oakeshott released in the first place was because of “public interest”)
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Mar 2, 2023 17:45:38 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 2, 2023 17:59:20 GMT
Don’t forget to join Big Nige in the GB News pub for Talking Pints at 7pm folks. You’d be a fool to miss it!
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Mar 2, 2023 18:08:50 GMT
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Post by toppercorner on Mar 2, 2023 18:16:48 GMT
mocking the public again
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Post by fullmetaljacket on Mar 2, 2023 19:56:57 GMT
Is Hancock just the thickest bloke alive or am I missing something..
Why would he team up with an anti lockdown journalist and not expect his messages to be leaked..
He's on a different planet the soft ....
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Post by adri2008 on Mar 2, 2023 20:59:59 GMT
Is Hancock just the thickest bloke alive or am I missing something.. Why would he team up with an anti lockdown journalist and not expect his messages to be leaked.. He's on a different planet the soft .... An incredibly stupid thing to do, especially with someone like Oakeshott - a notorious leaker and backstabber. Not sure what he was expecting from her.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 2, 2023 23:47:36 GMT
The reason people find it hard to accept, is because it's another complete and total lie, you despicable, lying Tory fuck ...
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Mar 3, 2023 7:34:14 GMT
The reason people find it hard to accept, is because it's another complete and total lie, you despicable, lying Tory fuck ... Wan't it Goebbels who uttered the phrase about repeating a lie for long enough?
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Mar 3, 2023 7:35:41 GMT
Ooops....
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Mar 3, 2023 7:37:08 GMT
Meanwhile....
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Mar 3, 2023 7:53:53 GMT
Is Hancock just the thickest bloke alive or am I missing something.. Why would he team up with an anti lockdown journalist and not expect his messages to be leaked.. He's on a different planet the soft .... An incredibly stupid thing to do, especially with someone like Oakeshott - a notorious leaker and backstabber. Not sure what he was expecting from her. I think he was hoping for a shag. I would not be in the least surprised if she flirted with him to get the gig in the first place.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Mar 3, 2023 9:26:03 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Mar 3, 2023 10:15:51 GMT
An incredibly stupid thing to do, especially with someone like Oakeshott - a notorious leaker and backstabber. Not sure what he was expecting from her. I think he was hoping for a shag. I would not be in the least surprised if she flirted with him to get the gig in the first place. Indeed...she has got form for this.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Mar 3, 2023 10:18:50 GMT
Water companies have always done this, it's nothing new, even if the frequency and scale might have increased. After all, what are they supposed to do when it rains to an extent that treatment works can't cope? Shut them down and allow sewage to back up into the streets and people's homes? Obviously not, so the alternative is to allow it to drain to our rivers. (Incidentally, anyone who goes wild swimming in any of England's rivers is asking for health problems. They're all full of sewage effluent, treated or otherwise). That said, allowing untreated sewage to bypass treatment works into rivers and seas is obviously the easiest way out and saves enormous sums of money for the water companies. Investing some of the their huge profits into new infrastructure such as large storm sewage holding tanks and improving drainage infrastructure to cope with the more extreme rainfall events we're getting as a result of climate change would be good starts, not just putting charges up and paying shareholder dividends.
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Post by PotteringThrough on Mar 3, 2023 11:52:21 GMT
An inquiry into the inquiry is definitely a good use of time and money…
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Post by lawrieleslie on Mar 3, 2023 12:01:34 GMT
This is a huge issue here in the South Hams rivers Dart, Avon, Erme and Yealm where raw sewerage discharges are almost a daily occurrence, 2 years ago my local river, the Yealm, was so contaminated that the oyster farm was forced to close for several months resulting in job losses and the closing of the farm. A SW Water manager came to answer questions at a parish council meeting and he admitted that there had been over 250 sewerage spills into the river over the previous 24 months. He astounded everybody when he stated that only spillages over 11m3 are reportable to the environment agency, so anything less than 11 m3 is not reported or recorded as this is allowed. Our local sewerage treatment plant is overwhelmed during rainy periods but SW Water never object to any developments that will discharge to this plant probably because of the revenue developments generate for its business. There is also an issue, which is common to all coastal harbours, with pleasure boats discharging raw sewerage into the harbour waters. When the river Yealm harbour authority were challenged by several coastal parishes about this, it was stated that MCA regulations for vessels under 400tons were only "requested" or "advised" to discharge their tanks outside 3 mile limit or use their holding tank if they had one. This is not enforceable. In the summer the Yealm harbour can moor over 500 vessels.
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Post by wannabee on Mar 3, 2023 12:27:14 GMT
An inquiry into the inquiry is definitely a good use of time and money… Selectively short memories, but were the Met who paused Sue Grey's enquiry and subsequently upheld her findings and fined Boris also part of the Left Wing Conspiracy Plot? Do they also forget that the reason Boris had to resign was due to an accumulation of lies the final one when he lied about "Pincher by name, Pincher by nature " which precipitated a cavalcade of Tory Ministers resigning in a revolving door Downing Street which made the Country ungovernable
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Mar 3, 2023 12:38:10 GMT
An inquiry into the inquiry is definitely a good use of time and money… Selectively short memories, but were the Met who paused Sue Grey's enquiry and subsequently upheld her findings and fined Boris also part of the Left Wing Conspiracy Plot? Do they also forget that the reason Boris had to resign was due to an accumulation of lies the final one when he lied about "Pincher by name, Pincher by nature " which precipitated a cavalcade of Tory Ministers resigning in a revolving door Downing Street which made the Country ungovernable Yes, they were. They're the enforcement side of the Left-wing Economic Establishment
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Post by wannabee on Mar 3, 2023 12:48:05 GMT
This is a huge issue here in the South Hams rivers Dart, Avon, Erme and Yealm where raw sewerage discharges are almost a daily occurrence, 2 years ago my local river, the Yealm, was so contaminated that the oyster farm was forced to close for several months resulting in job losses and the closing of the farm. A SW Water manager came to answer questions at a parish council meeting and he admitted that there had been over 250 sewerage spills into the river over the previous 24 months. He astounded everybody when he stated that only spillages over 11m3 are reportable to the environment agency, so anything less than 11 m3 is not reported or recorded as this is allowed. Our local sewerage treatment plant is overwhelmed during rainy periods but SW Water never object to any developments that will discharge to this plant probably because of the revenue developments generate for its business. There is also an issue, which is common to all coastal harbours, with pleasure boats discharging raw sewerage into the harbour waters. When the river Yealm harbour authority were challenged by several coastal parishes about this, it was stated that MCA regulations for vessels under 400tons were only "requested" or "advised" to discharge their tanks outside 3 mile limit or use their holding tank if they had one. This is not enforceable. In the summer the Yealm harbour can moor over 500 vessels. Who could have predicted when Thatcher privatised A Public Water Utility into a for profit Private Companies it would have a negative outcome? The fact that the money these Companies borrowed to buy the Water Co £7.6 Bn has never been reduced Rather billions has been paid to the Foreign Owners in Dividends leaving little scope for investment in infrastructure And who could have predicted that under the present administration since 2010 the Environment Agency Budget has been slashed by two thirds. Even if Water Companies do report spillages the EA have little capacity to carry out anything other than rudimentary enquiries The Water Companies (WC) are in fact self regulated and the EA performs a box ticking exercise when the WCs (pun intended) deign to inform the EA tribunemag.co.uk/2023/01/environment-agency-strike-austerity-cuts-pay-cost-of-living
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