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Post by hamsta2 on Oct 20, 2022 13:02:31 GMT
There's surely been a pact of some sort done between the major players already. Ordinarily, a new PM would bring in their OWN cabinet but surely Hunt isn't a risk of not being Chancellor is he? He's already said that he isn't going to stand for PM. And Shapps isn't going to be standing down is he? One of Mordaunt or Sunak has already been given the job haven't they? Probably. What a mess.
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Oct 20, 2022 13:03:51 GMT
The only thing stopping me laughing my cock off at the state of the Conservative Party right now is this nagging thought that this was really the plan all along for a small number of incredibly wealthy individuals.
Get her in with advanced warning that she is going to crash the pound, put a lot of money on there being a run on the pound, cash in when it falls and start backing the pound to rise when you get the word that the mini-budget will be reversed, and then cash out when you know she's going to resign.
I can't see any other logic for her actions, other than being an agent of the Lib Dems sent to destroy the Conservative Party.
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Oct 20, 2022 13:04:54 GMT
There's surely been a pact of some sort done between the major players already. Ordinarily, a new PM would bring in their OWN cabinet but surely Hunt isn't a risk of not being Chancellor is he? He's already said that he isn't going to stand for PM. And Shapps isn't going to be standing down is he? One of Mordaunt or Sunak has already been given the job haven't they? Schnapps appointment makes sense now.
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Post by marylandstoke on Oct 20, 2022 13:05:34 GMT
How on earth can there not be a general election??
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Post by GrahamHyde on Oct 20, 2022 13:06:30 GMT
They'll still be voted in at the next election. All of this will be forgotten about in a couple of years.
Shambles of a government, and people still claim that we'd be worse off under Labour. Is that even possible?
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Post by FranktheRabbit on Oct 20, 2022 13:07:52 GMT
whatever happens now I cant see him retaining his seat at the next GE Fingers crossed eh.
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Post by thevoid on Oct 20, 2022 13:10:05 GMT
More PMs than Watford managers
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Post by thewonderstuff on Oct 20, 2022 13:10:49 GMT
Statement at 1-30 and also You can't call a cunt a cunt these days. Fucking cancel culture.
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Post by lordb on Oct 20, 2022 13:11:39 GMT
They'll still be voted in at the next election. All of this will be forgotten about in a couple of years. Shambles of a government, and people still claim that we'd be worse off under Labour. Is that even possible? I think that won't play out they will be out just a question of the numbers
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Post by noustie on Oct 20, 2022 13:11:53 GMT
The 1,305 octogenarian tory members are looking to expedite the process of appointing the new leader and save going through 27 rounds of pretence by confirming ‘so long as they’re not brown’.
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Post by flea79 on Oct 20, 2022 13:12:42 GMT
whatever happens now I cant see him retaining his seat at the next GE he isnt my mp, i have Jo Gideon who has the appeal of a rotten turnip but she is still better than that lying fuckwit Gareth Snell
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Post by thewonderstuff on Oct 20, 2022 13:13:06 GMT
There's surely been a pact of some sort done between the major players already. Ordinarily, a new PM would bring in their OWN cabinet but surely Hunt isn't a risk of not being Chancellor is he? He's already said that he isn't going to stand for PM. And Shapps isn't going to be standing down is he? One of Mordaunt or Sunak has already been given the job haven't they? Yeah its a coronation. I imagine Mordaunt is less toxic than Sunak to certain parts of the party. Can't see it being anyone else really.
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Post by lordb on Oct 20, 2022 13:13:35 GMT
I think this maybe the time for the Minister for Ministerial Affairs to take the top job
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Post by lordb on Oct 20, 2022 13:14:20 GMT
whatever happens now I cant see him retaining his seat at the next GE he isnt my mp, i have Jo Gideon who has the appeal of a rotten turnip but she is still better than that lying fuckwit Gareth Snell Will Snell be the candidate?
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Post by FullerMagic on Oct 20, 2022 13:14:36 GMT
A clown MP on Sky now calling for a Boris return.
What is wrong with these people?
We're screwed
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Post by mtrstudent on Oct 20, 2022 13:16:09 GMT
They'll still be voted in at the next election. All of this will be forgotten about in a couple of years. Shambles of a government, and people still claim that we'd be worse off under Labour. Is that even possible? I think that won't play out they will be out just a question of the numbers I remember when people said trump was done just because he boasted about some of the sexual assaults he committed. And that was weeks, not years before the election. Voters are good at coming up with excuses to vote how we want, it just takes a little while.
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Post by flea79 on Oct 20, 2022 13:17:06 GMT
he isnt my mp, i have Jo Gideon who has the appeal of a rotten turnip but she is still better than that lying fuckwit Gareth Snell Will Snell be the candidate? he has been selected but it has been challenged by some other local labour members have challenged it so its being reviewed or something
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Post by prestwichpotter on Oct 20, 2022 13:18:04 GMT
Step forward.....
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Post by questionable on Oct 20, 2022 13:18:16 GMT
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Post by lordb on Oct 20, 2022 13:19:06 GMT
I think that won't play out they will be out just a question of the numbers I remember when people said trump was done just because he boasted about some of the sexual assaults he committed. And that was weeks, not years before the election. Voters are good at coming up with excuses to vote how we want, it just takes a little while. we are not Americans
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Post by Paul Spencer on Oct 20, 2022 13:19:39 GMT
Graham Brady has just said that the Tory party members will get to vote!
WTAF?
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Oct 20, 2022 13:20:51 GMT
Graham Brady has just said that the Tory party members will get to vote! WTAF? Makes Mordaunt the favourite now. Fuck knows how they'll do it in a week.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Oct 20, 2022 13:22:12 GMT
Finally I know how it feels to be Italian.......
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Post by hcstokie on Oct 20, 2022 13:23:48 GMT
More PMs than Watford managers I’ve had shits that have lasted longer.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Oct 20, 2022 13:26:28 GMT
Graham Brady has just said that the Tory party members will get to vote! WTAF? Makes Mordaunt the favourite now. Fuck knows how they'll do it in a week. It doesn't make sense unless there's a coronation pretty damn quickly. Brady said the result will be announced on the 28th. Isn't there supposed to be a full budget announcement on the 31st? How can you announce a new PM 3 days before a full budget? Is the new PM simply going to accept that they don't have any say in the budget? It doesn't make sense.
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Post by wagsastokie on Oct 20, 2022 13:26:58 GMT
At the risk of turning this into a Brexit thread, yes job vacancies are high and higher than unemployed for the first time in history. But during most of my life people have complained of the human wastage, degradation, and sheer abhorrence of unemployment. Trade unions and all people with consciences campaigned against it. While we were in the EEC/EU 100,000s lost their jobs which were exported to Europe and the Far East. We now have "full employment" or as near as we ever could practically get to it, which I consider to be more important to the nation's wellbeing. We now have employers competing to fill jobs by improving pay. I know it isn't a real increase due to inflation, but inflation is all over Europe because of Putin and worse in the UK because of government inaction, not Brexit. Regarding productivity, the UK has always been poor at productivity because labour has been cheap. With unemployment, employers can get away with paying low wages. Why invest in automation? Only if you are in direct competition like car manufacturers. Today businesses across the country are seeking to automate like never before because they can't hold onto labour and it is getting expensive as there is no pool of cheap foreign workers. Regarding Braverman, I think there are different views on Brexit. I am in the Tony Benn, Denis Skinner, Peter Shaw school when it comes to not being in the EU. I could live with EEC membership, just about, but I do not want to be ruled by a government in Brussels. We can throw out Braverman & Co but the EU is stuck with the various EU governing bodies, which are committed to ever closer union. You say " that's Brexit" but the whole point of Brexit is we can make this country what we want it to be, not being bled to death by a massive trade deficit with the EU. Who would not want to be like New Zealand? Possibly the most liberal country in the world. Brexit means putting the nation first. Could you see US, Canada, or Australia handing over their government to Brussels or equivalent? The idea is preposterous. OK we have a crap government, but that is no reason to be governed from Brussels. It will take time to change fishing, agriculture, trade deals, etc and other legislation changes don't have to be negative ones, we get the government we elect. In the 70s and 80s I actively supported the Liberal Party but gave up politics because they were as duplicitous as the rest of them. I supported EEC membership in the 70s and used to argue with my dad who was a Benn supporter. But after decades managing industry, working for French, Dutch, Indians, you know the rest, I came round solidly to the view that the world has changed drastically since 1990 and the UK is best out of the EU. No we're not. Unfortunately you don't own a monopoly on experience - so after decades of working for British, German and American companies I'm solidly of the view we were better off in. Is it perfect? - of course it isn't. Nothing is. However the advantages far outweighed the disadvantages and I've seen nothing since to change my mind. Which is a entirely your right and your opinion should be respected And are as valid as any other As should the opinions of the people who chose to disagree
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Post by gawa on Oct 20, 2022 13:37:28 GMT
No we're not. Unfortunately you don't own a monopoly on experience - so after decades of working for British, German and American companies I'm solidly of the view we were better off in. Is it perfect? - of course it isn't. Nothing is. However the advantages far outweighed the disadvantages and I've seen nothing since to change my mind. Which is a entirely your right and your opinion should be respected And are as valid as any other As should the opinions of the people who chose to disagree And their opinions have been respected as they got their brexit. Just like the views of the tories were respected when they joined us into the EU. And just like if a referendum showed people wanted to join the EU that would also be respected. The tories can vote for a new leader every other month, and we reluctantly have to accept that. If another EU referendum occurred then as a democracy we also have to respect that
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Post by drfootball on Oct 20, 2022 13:37:39 GMT
The 1,305 octogenarian tory members are looking to expedite the process of appointing the new leader and save going through 27 rounds of pretence by confirming ‘so long as they’re not brown’. Ethnic demographic of recent Tory ministers suggest otherwise. Sunak, Javid, Braverman, Kwarteng etc so it`s a bit of a daft comment really.
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Post by mrcoke on Oct 20, 2022 13:41:24 GMT
No 10 is to have a turnstile fitted in the front door. Good one There was steel works, I worked at in the 70s that was managed on the "Watford FC model", where if you weren't producing an immediate improvement you were replaced. One wag once said, " I don't mind having my name chalked on the manager's door instead of a name plate, it's the piece of wet sponge hanging next to it I object to!"
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Post by PotteringThrough on Oct 20, 2022 13:41:56 GMT
Rishi pretty much called what would happen, that’s probably helped rebuild his reputation.
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