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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Oct 15, 2022 8:54:51 GMT
I will never, for the life of me, understand why anybody in the Conservative party would look at Lizz Truss and think: "Yeah, she is Prime Minister material". As an MP she has always looked completely out of her depth, has consistently failed to be on top of her brief, and is a poor orator. I can only assume that her simple message of "growth" cut through. The problem with politics in general at the moment is that being honest about the challenges this country faces and presenting complex, realistic solutions to complex problems does not seem to generate votes. People want simple black and white answers (however unrealistic). However, where do we go from here? Even if the 1922 Committee change the rules to allow a leadership challenge who gets put forward? Because there is a complete lack of talent. And if we do have three Prime Ministers in the period of six months (or so) then where is their mandate? Especially when two will have been selected by a tiny portion of the population. Yet the Conservatives would not dare call a General Election at the moment because they will be heavily defeated. I suspect if we do have another unelected prime minister forced upon us (oh, the Brexit irony!) they will not be chosen by the idiot Tory membership this time...which means about 350 people out of about 50 million get to decide. |
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Post by elystokie on Oct 15, 2022 8:57:14 GMT
Is there still a BNP party that some of the anti-Labour crew can go back to these days? Or did Farage kill that lot off? Wasn't 'big' Nige starting his own party? Seem to remember BJR on here trying to crowbar it into his every post for a while. |
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Post by PotteringThrough on Oct 15, 2022 9:03:14 GMT
Good luck Jeremy Hunt, or maybe not…
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Oct 15, 2022 9:04:48 GMT
Is there still a BNP party that some of the anti-Labour crew can go back to these days? Or did Farage kill that lot off? Wasn't 'big' Nige starting his own party? Seem to remember BJR on here trying to crowbar it into his every post for a while. Are you thinking of 'big' Riccy Tice, or perhaps 'big' Lozza Fox, two political leviathans going absolutely nowhere much loved by Bianco!? |
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Post by andystokey on Oct 15, 2022 9:09:51 GMT
Good luck Jeremy Hunt, or maybe not… She has such a potty mouth, I nearly spat my tea out this morning |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Oct 15, 2022 9:17:44 GMT
Austerity Part 2 here we come…… And less than 48 hours earlier ... Her position is completely and utterly, untenable. |
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Post by elystokie on Oct 15, 2022 9:22:22 GMT
Wasn't 'big' Nige starting his own party? Seem to remember BJR on here trying to crowbar it into his every post for a while. Are you thinking of 'big' Riccy Tice, or perhaps 'big' Lozza Fox, two political leviathans going absolutely nowhere much loved by Bianco!? 'Big' Lozza that was a shoe in for Mayor of London last time around I believe, the result was probably a fix like it was for the big blond baboon, heard of the other fella but wouldn't recognize him if I bumped into him tbh. No, I was definitely thinking of the insurance salesman  |
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Post by oggyoggy on Oct 15, 2022 9:25:36 GMT
Austerity Part 2 here we come…… And less than 48 hours earlier ... Her position is completely and utterly, untenable. He also said some taxes will rise and those that are going to be reduced will come down by less than people want. Basically, the entire foundation as to why Truss is our PM is being binned. We must have a general election and the fact an automatic mechanism doesn’t kick in when a leader bins the manifesto their party was elected on is terrible. The only mandate Truss has is in the 2019 tory manifesto. |
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Post by mrcoke on Oct 15, 2022 9:34:21 GMT
Blimey - which fuckwitts make up the 8% Channel 4 News Poll 64% think Liz Truss should resign. 8% think she should stay as leader. 61% think there should be a general election. I'm afraid it is yet another example of lazy journalism. They only bothered to ask 12 people and one was Liz Truss. |
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Oct 15, 2022 10:19:16 GMT
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Post by elystokie on Oct 15, 2022 10:29:52 GMT
It's as if the poor old Daily Mail is entirely innocent in all this chaos and has had poor decisions just forced upon them out of nowhere... As it was...    And as it is now....   All looks a bit familiar, does rossi write their headlines? |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Oct 15, 2022 10:32:17 GMT
It's as if the poor old Daily Mail is entirely innocent in all this chaos and has had poor decisions just forced upon them out of nowhere... As it was... And as it is now.... They know that their readership have the attention span of a goldfish, so they can (sadly) get away with it. Thing is, now she's lost the Mail, I think there's only The Express left, won't be long before they've gone too. What an undignified way to cling on. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2022 10:45:18 GMT
It's as if the poor old Daily Mail is entirely innocent in all this chaos and has had poor decisions just forced upon them out of nowhere... As it was... And as it is now.... They know that their readership have the attention span of a goldfish, so they can (sadly) get away with it. Thing is, now she's lost the Mail, I think there's only The Express left, won't be long before they've gone too. What an undignified way to cling on. Lol. How does she have the “strength of conviction”? She’s constantly changing her position. |
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Oct 15, 2022 11:03:42 GMT
Bang on the money. Always thinks he talks a lot of sense.
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Post by peterthornesboots on Oct 15, 2022 11:13:28 GMT
I will never, for the life of me, understand why anybody in the Conservative party would look at Lizz Truss and think: "Yeah, she is Prime Minister material". As an MP she has always looked completely out of her depth, has consistently failed to be on top of her brief, and is a poor orator. I can only assume that her simple message of "growth" cut through. The problem with politics in general at the moment is that being honest about the challenges this country faces and presenting complex, realistic solutions to complex problems does not seem to generate votes. People want simple black and white answers (however unrealistic). However, where do we go from here? Even if the 1922 Committee change the rules to allow a leadership challenge who gets put forward? Because there is a complete lack of talent. And if we do have three Prime Ministers in the period of six months (or so) then where is their mandate? Especially when two will have been selected by a tiny portion of the population. Yet the Conservatives would not dare call a General Election at the moment because they will be heavily defeated. I suspect if we do have another unelected prime minister forced upon us (oh, the Brexit irony!) they will not be chosen by the idiot Tory membership this time...which means about 350 people out of about 50 million get to decide. From my understanding (and I do not proclaim to be a political expert) it was Sunak that the majority of Conservative MPs seemed to favour in the leadership contest - but it was the membership that ultimately decided. I, like yourself, cannot see the MPs allowing something similar to happen for a second time. Also, I have never understood how a political party can change prime minister without a general election being called. It has also been something that has baffled me (just from a common sense perspective). |
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Post by lordb on Oct 15, 2022 11:25:26 GMT
I suspect if we do have another unelected prime minister forced upon us (oh, the Brexit irony!) they will not be chosen by the idiot Tory membership this time...which means about 350 people out of about 50 million get to decide. From my understanding (and I do not proclaim to be a political expert) it was Sunak that the majority of Conservative MPs seemed to favour in the leadership contest - but it was the membership that ultimately decided. I, like yourself, cannot see the MPs allowing something similar to happen for a second time. Also, I have never understood how a political party can change prime minister without a general election being called. It has also been something that has baffled me (just from a common sense perspective). It's because the only person we directly elect is the local MP That's it, everything else is decided by politicians |
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Oct 15, 2022 11:25:40 GMT
Bang on the money. Always thinks he talks a lot of sense. Biggest problem in the U.k. whether it’s politics, policing or football. Leaders on the whole are weak and terrified of mainstream and social media. Unwilling to go with the courage of their convictions even if they’re wrong. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2022 13:27:49 GMT
I will never, for the life of me, understand why anybody in the Conservative party would look at Lizz Truss and think: "Yeah, she is Prime Minister material". As an MP she has always looked completely out of her depth, has consistently failed to be on top of her brief, and is a poor orator. I can only assume that her simple message of "growth" cut through. The problem with politics in general at the moment is that being honest about the challenges this country faces and presenting complex, realistic solutions to complex problems does not seem to generate votes. People want simple black and white answers (however unrealistic). However, where do we go from here? Even if the 1922 Committee change the rules to allow a leadership challenge who gets put forward? Because there is a complete lack of talent. And if we do have three Prime Ministers in the period of six months (or so) then where is their mandate? Especially when two will have been selected by a tiny portion of the population. Yet the Conservatives would not dare call a General Election at the moment because they will be heavily defeated. I suspect if we do have another unelected prime minister forced upon us (oh, the Brexit irony!) they will not be chosen by the idiot Tory membership this time...which means about 350 people out of about 50 million get to decide. You don’t vote for a leader, you vote for your local MP. |
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Post by essexstokey on Oct 15, 2022 14:47:04 GMT
I will never, for the life of me, understand why anybody in the Conservative party would look at Lizz Truss and think: "Yeah, she is Prime Minister material". As an MP she has always looked completely out of her depth, has consistently failed to be on top of her brief, and is a poor orator. I can only assume that her simple message of "growth" cut through. The problem with politics in general at the moment is that being honest about the challenges this country faces and presenting complex, realistic solutions to complex problems does not seem to generate votes. People want simple black and white answers (however unrealistic). However, where do we go from here? Even if the 1922 Committee change the rules to allow a leadership challenge who gets put forward? Because there is a complete lack of talent. And if we do have three Prime Ministers in the period of six months (or so) then where is their mandate? Especially when two will have been selected by a tiny portion of the population. Yet the Conservatives would not dare call a General Election at the moment because they will be heavily defeated. I suspect if we do have another unelected prime minister forced upon us (oh, the Brexit irony!) they will not be chosen by the idiot Tory membership this time...which means about 350 people out of about 50 million get to decide. Tory democracy in action getting back the power they never had from those unelected beuracrats in Europe 😁😁 Democracy is only saved like the flag when it suits them |
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Oct 15, 2022 15:48:50 GMT
It's as if the poor old Daily Mail is entirely innocent in all this chaos and has had poor decisions just forced upon them out of nowhere... As it was... And as it is now.... All looks a bit familiar, does rossi write their headlines? Too much hyperbole for tabloids! Literally. |
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Oct 15, 2022 16:00:34 GMT
Bang on the money. Always thinks he talks a lot of sense. Biggest problem in the U.k. whether it’s politics, policing or football. Leaders on the whole are weak and terrified of mainstream and social media. Unwilling to go with the courage of their convictions even if they’re wrong. To be honest, if your convictions are wrong, and shown to be, you'd have to be a psychopath to keep sticking to them! You can't announce your plans, see the impact of them, ie tank the pound and threaten the collapse of pension funds, then just plough on as if that gives you some kind of badge of leadership strength, while the world falls apart around you. |
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Post by maxplonk on Oct 15, 2022 16:02:08 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 15, 2022 17:03:58 GMT
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Oct 15, 2022 17:11:43 GMT
When Jeremy Hunt is seen as "the sane one in the room, the safe pair of hands", you know it's the last days of Rome type stuff. |
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Post by yeswilko on Oct 15, 2022 17:32:44 GMT
Jeremy Hunt always looks surprised to be alive.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2022 18:10:02 GMT
When Jeremy Hunt is seen as "the sane one in the room, the safe pair of hands", you know it's the last days of Rome type stuff. He is an amazing example of someone who keeps failing upwards. He’ll eventually lead the party. Though to be fair, I don’t recall that much support for the junior doctors at the time, so his failures are easily swept under a rug. |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 15, 2022 19:44:23 GMT
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Post by henry on Oct 15, 2022 20:53:30 GMT
PAYE fucked up the arse again, wouldn't be surprised if i dont' end up paying more in tax. The whole things a fucking scam. Same shit,difrent day. |
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Post by Davef on Oct 15, 2022 22:08:57 GMT
I will never, for the life of me, understand why anybody in the Conservative party would look at Lizz Truss and think: "Yeah, she is Prime Minister material". As an MP she has always looked completely out of her depth, has consistently failed to be on top of her brief, and is a poor orator. I can only assume that her simple message of "growth" cut through. The problem with politics in general at the moment is that being honest about the challenges this country faces and presenting complex, realistic solutions to complex problems does not seem to generate votes. People want simple black and white answers (however unrealistic). However, where do we go from here? Even if the 1922 Committee change the rules to allow a leadership challenge who gets put forward? Because there is a complete lack of talent. And if we do have three Prime Ministers in the period of six months (or so) then where is their mandate? Especially when two will have been selected by a tiny portion of the population. Yet the Conservatives would not dare call a General Election at the moment because they will be heavily defeated. Because there's an absolute vacuum of political talent and the Tories are now scraping the barrel. That's why Rees-Mogg, the archetypal back bencher with nothing to offer, is a front bench member of the cabinet. It won't be long before Fabricant and his ridiculous toupee is contributing to fucking up everybody's lives. |
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Post by longdistancekiddie on Oct 15, 2022 22:32:32 GMT
Worst ever
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