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Post by 828492 on Oct 6, 2022 21:45:32 GMT
jesus wept "A free-market think tank with close links to Liz Truss and Kwasi Kwarteng has drawn up a blueprint of “slash and burn” ideas that could form the basis of the government’s supply-side reform programme to be set out in coming weeks. The document from the Free Market Forum (FMF), an offshoot of the Institute of Economic Affairs (IEA), suggests scrapping free childcare hours, releasing green belt land for housing, abolishing corporation tax and dropping teacher training qualifications for graduates." www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/oct/06/revealed-rightwing-slash-and-burn-ideas-that-could-be-blueprint-for-trussIs there anyway that ending free childcare can improve the supply of labour, you’re possibly doing 2 people out of job. What, ermm, where’s the logic? Rees Mogg will be hoping that there will be more children available to sweep chimneys
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 6, 2022 21:58:36 GMT
you left loons are the facists 1. No we're not. 2. It's "fascists"
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 6, 2022 22:05:00 GMT
i think its because they are anticipating the election of a labour government next . the outlook isn't for those investing in the uk for 12 months !!!! what happened the other friday will be nothing compared to the market meltdown after SIR kier gets elected which now looks inevitable.
I say this as someone who is no fan of Starmer, don't be so ridiculous. Very soon admitting you're a Tory will be more embarrassing than admitting you fiddle with dogs the way their popularity is plummeting.......... He's a Tory who claims he's not a Tory.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 6, 2022 22:07:11 GMT
😂😂😂 When is the next full moon? You loons should know. And this....is all you have left.
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Post by essexstokey on Oct 6, 2022 22:15:37 GMT
you left loons are the facists 1. No we're not. 2. It's "fascists" Erm am I missing a major point here historically fascists are far right like Hitler know where bear the left
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 6, 2022 22:18:36 GMT
1. No we're not. 2. It's "fascists" Erm am I missing a major point here historically fascists are far right like Hitler know where bear the left He's gaslighting mate.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Oct 6, 2022 22:39:22 GMT
1. No we're not. 2. It's "fascists" Erm am I missing a major point here historically fascists are far right like Hitler know where bear the left Historically, far right and far left end up in the same place mate. Oppressive regimes, authoritarianism, obliteration of freedoms, control of the media and dictatorships. Violence typically follows..
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Post by knype on Oct 7, 2022 3:45:16 GMT
you left loons are the facists 1. No we're not. 2. It's "fascists" Grammar police too? No Twitter link or meme for it?
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Post by whakka on Oct 7, 2022 4:19:56 GMT
She's got my vote.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 7, 2022 5:37:44 GMT
1. No we're not. 2. It's "fascists" Grammar police too? No Twitter link or meme for it? Rattled.
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Post by knype on Oct 7, 2022 5:45:53 GMT
Grammar police too? No Twitter link or meme for it? Rattled. Not at all, I find it amusing. I don't get rattled as easy as you lot
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 7, 2022 6:00:39 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 7, 2022 6:01:49 GMT
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Post by knype on Oct 7, 2022 6:48:50 GMT
Dear me, still banging the NHS deserve more than anyone guff...unions joining together to make political attacks again. What happens if the nurses and NHS get the 10% they are after?
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Oct 7, 2022 7:02:37 GMT
Dear me, still banging the NHS deserve more than anyone guff...unions joining together to make political attacks again. What happens if the nurses and NHS get the 10% they are after? Other than in your own head, who was? This is a story about the Daily Mail being sued!
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Post by 828492 on Oct 7, 2022 7:02:58 GMT
Dear me, still banging the NHS deserve more than anyone guff...unions joining together to make political attacks again. What happens if the nurses and NHS get the 10% they are after? Perhaps less nurses will have to use food banks?
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Post by oggyoggy on Oct 7, 2022 7:06:08 GMT
1. No we're not. 2. It's "fascists" Grammar police too? No Twitter link or meme for it? I think you’ll find he is pointing out an error with your spelling, not your grammar.
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Post by knype on Oct 7, 2022 7:12:28 GMT
Dear me, still banging the NHS deserve more than anyone guff...unions joining together to make political attacks again. What happens if the nurses and NHS get the 10% they are after? Other than in your own head, who was? This is a story about the Daily Mail being sued! That statement makes no sense, who was what?
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Post by knype on Oct 7, 2022 7:13:12 GMT
Dear me, still banging the NHS deserve more than anyone guff...unions joining together to make political attacks again. What happens if the nurses and NHS get the 10% they are after? Perhaps less nurses will have to use food banks? Only nurses use them?
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Post by milton58 on Oct 7, 2022 7:20:33 GMT
Perhaps less nurses will have to use food banks? Only nurses use them? should anyone be using them
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Oct 7, 2022 7:21:51 GMT
Other than in your own head, who was? This is a story about the Daily Mail being sued! That statement makes no sense, who was what? God, it's like having a conversation with a three year old or someone with dementia! Who was "banging on about the NHS deserve more than anyone guff.." as you said in your response to huddy's post which was about the Daily Mail being sued...
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Post by henry on Oct 7, 2022 8:00:12 GMT
Dear me, still banging the NHS deserve more than anyone guff...unions joining together to make political attacks again. What happens if the nurses and NHS get the 10% they are after? Perhaps less nurses will have to use food banks? How much do nurses get paid?
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Post by knype on Oct 7, 2022 8:02:53 GMT
should anyone be using them Of course they shouldn't
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Post by knype on Oct 7, 2022 8:04:07 GMT
That statement makes no sense, who was what? God, it's like having a conversation with a three year old or someone with dementia! Who was "banging on about the NHS deserve more than anyone guff.." as you said in your response to huddy's post which was about the Daily Mail being sued... Don't think you should joke about dementia personally, but hey ho!
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Oct 7, 2022 8:28:47 GMT
The NHS is utterly broken and isn't replicated (or worshiped) around the world for a reason. As mentioned countless times, it's too big (second largest employer in the world after the Chinese regime) - you simply cannot manage an organisation or business of that size with any degree of efficiency. If we have any real ambition as a nation to have a world class health service, it needs absolutely ripping to shreds and starting again. Of course, touching the NHS is viewed (by a tiny minority of angry cultists and the media) as blasphemy so politicians just won't go near it.
The state of our failing health service is summed up perfectly by a pretty well known hospital near me which now has two CEO's (you heard it, not one, but two!) and three diversity officers. It just leaves you speechless.
As with all organisations and businesses, there are good people in the NHS and there are totally shit people in the NHS. That shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone.
Just in terms of the nurse pay debate, aside from the obvious point that they could always find another job if they don't like what they earn, the average nurse salary in the UK is 33k. Anyone earning over 20k, let alone 30k doesn't need to be going to a food bank do they?
I also think it's worth pointing out that there are some pretty exceptional perks that nurses and the like get that much of the public doesn't even know about, be it significant discounts on day to day spend, pension schemes, mortgage schemes, incredibly favourable maternity/paternity packages, significant leave (over 30 days per annum) etc.
If you aren't happy with your salary or aren't happy with your job, move on and get another job that does give you what you want. Do something about it.
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Post by dexter97 on Oct 7, 2022 8:32:00 GMT
Perhaps less nurses will have to use food banks? How much do nurses get paid? That depends on how you define ‘nurse’. All Registered Nurses qualifying over the last 20 or 30 years are graduates. Their role has evolved over that time to become more managerial and it incorporates a lot of stuff previously done by doctors. Less-technical (but not necessarily less important) tasks that were traditionally considered the role of the nurse have become part of the Care Assistant’s job. A newly-qualified Registered Nurse gets £27k, while those at the top of the profession will be up to about £60k. Average is £32k. Band 2s (the ones wiping arses and cleaning up vomit) are on just over £20k.
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Post by knype on Oct 7, 2022 8:41:19 GMT
The NHS is utterly broken and isn't replicated (or worshiped) around the world for a reason. As mentioned countless times, it's too big (second largest employer in the world after the Chinese regime) - you simply cannot manage an organisation or business of that size with any degree of efficiency. If we have any real ambition as a nation to have a world class health service, it needs absolutely ripping to shreds and starting again. Of course, touching the NHS is viewed (by a tiny minority of angry cultists and the media) as blasphemy so politicians just won't go near it. The state of our failing health service is summed up perfectly by a pretty well known hospital near me which now has two CEO's (you heard it, not one, but two!) and three diversity officers. It just leaves you speechless. As with all organisations and businesses, there are good people in the NHS and there are totally shit people in the NHS. That shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone. Just in terms of the nurse pay debate, aside from the obvious point that they could always find another job if they don't like what they earn, the average nurse salary in the UK is 33k. Anyone earning over 20k, let alone 30k doesn't need to be going to a food bank do they? I also think it's worth pointing out that there are some pretty exceptional perks that nurses and the like get that much of the public doesn't even know about, be it significant discounts on day to day spend, pension schemes, mortgage schemes, incredibly favourable maternity/paternity packages, significant leave (over 30 days per annum) etc. If you aren't happy with your salary or aren't happy with your job, move on and get another job that does give you what you want. Do something about it. I heard a story yesterday of a NHS trust who set on a manager of a ENT department who they recruited from Morrisons, within 3 weeks of starting he went off on long term sick, within the next 4 weeks he was paid off with a full years salary!
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Oct 7, 2022 8:45:44 GMT
The NHS is utterly broken and isn't replicated (or worshiped) around the world for a reason. As mentioned countless times, it's too big (second largest employer in the world after the Chinese regime) - you simply cannot manage an organisation or business of that size with any degree of efficiency. If we have any real ambition as a nation to have a world class health service, it needs absolutely ripping to shreds and starting again. Of course, touching the NHS is viewed (by a tiny minority of angry cultists and the media) as blasphemy so politicians just won't go near it. The state of our failing health service is summed up perfectly by a pretty well known hospital near me which now has two CEO's (you heard it, not one, but two!) and three diversity officers. It just leaves you speechless. As with all organisations and businesses, there are good people in the NHS and there are totally shit people in the NHS. That shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone. Just in terms of the nurse pay debate, aside from the obvious point that they could always find another job if they don't like what they earn, the average nurse salary in the UK is 33k. Anyone earning over 20k, let alone 30k doesn't need to be going to a food bank do they? I also think it's worth pointing out that there are some pretty exceptional perks that nurses and the like get that much of the public doesn't even know about, be it significant discounts on day to day spend, pension schemes, mortgage schemes, incredibly favourable maternity/paternity packages, significant leave (over 30 days per annum) etc. If you aren't happy with your salary or aren't happy with your job, move on and get another job that does give you what you want. Do something about it. I heard a story yesterday of a NHS trust who set on a manager of a ENT department who they recruited from Morrisons, within 3 weeks of starting he went off on long term sick, within the next 4 weeks he was paid off with a full years salary! Yep. Paid sick leave has been horribly exploited by certain NHS workers for years. Some of the stories I hear from friends within the health service never cease to amaze me. A fully paid 12 months for a nurse claiming mental health who then turned up after a couple of months on Instagram in Florida having a great time 😂 Like I say, there are some very good and talented people within the NHS, no one would deny that, but in the same way, they are some very very bad people.
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Post by Veritas on Oct 7, 2022 8:49:34 GMT
The NHS is utterly broken and isn't replicated (or worshiped) around the world for a reason. As mentioned countless times, it's too big (second largest employer in the world after the Chinese regime) - you simply cannot manage an organisation or business of that size with any degree of efficiency. If we have any real ambition as a nation to have a world class health service, it needs absolutely ripping to shreds and starting again. Of course, touching the NHS is viewed (by a tiny minority of angry cultists and the media) as blasphemy so politicians just won't go near it. The state of our failing health service is summed up perfectly by a pretty well known hospital near me which now has two CEO's (you heard it, not one, but two!) and three diversity officers. It just leaves you speechless. As with all organisations and businesses, there are good people in the NHS and there are totally shit people in the NHS. That shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone. Just in terms of the nurse pay debate, aside from the obvious point that they could always find another job if they don't like what they earn, the average nurse salary in the UK is 33k. Anyone earning over 20k, let alone 30k doesn't need to be going to a food bank do they? I also think it's worth pointing out that there are some pretty exceptional perks that nurses and the like get that much of the public doesn't even know about, be it significant discounts on day to day spend, pension schemes, mortgage schemes, incredibly favourable maternity/paternity packages, significant leave (over 30 days per annum) etc. If you aren't happy with your salary or aren't happy with your job, move on and get another job that does give you what you want. Do something about it. Good plan, hopefully all these moaning nurses will leave the NHS to take up better paid and less stressful jobs leaving who exactly to deal with the nations sick???
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Oct 7, 2022 8:53:50 GMT
I heard a story yesterday of a NHS trust who set on a manager of a ENT department who they recruited from Morrisons, within 3 weeks of starting he went off on long term sick, within the next 4 weeks he was paid off with a full years salary! Yep. Paid sick leave has been horribly exploited by certain NHS workers for years. Some of the stories I hear from friends within the health service never cease to amaze me. A fully paid 12 months for a nurse claiming mental health who then turned up after a couple of months on Instagram in Florida having a great time 😂 Like I say, there are some very good and talented people within the NHS, no one would deny that, but in the same way, they are some very very bad people. Surely if your mental health is knackered then a holiday is exactly what you need?
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