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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jun 27, 2022 7:44:47 GMT
Here's the reality.
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Post by thevoid on Jun 27, 2022 7:47:35 GMT
That's not even taking into account food bills.
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Post by partickpotter on Jun 27, 2022 7:54:18 GMT
Prestwich asked a question earlier along the lines of “why shouldn’t unions go out on strike?”. And it’s a fair question. But there is an answer, which you’ve touched on. Actually two things… One - when strikes become political in nature rather than about working conditions. Scargill being the obvious example. Second - when union action becomes competitive with unions trying to outdo each other. Something we’ve not seen since the 1970s. You can see elements of both of these bubbling under just now. And some in Labour, Starmer, obviously, and David Lammy, interestingly, are aware of the political risk of what the public may perceive as unfair strikes - teachers being one possible example. In your words, absolute pish. I’d expect no other comment from a fool like you.
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Post by knype on Jun 27, 2022 8:06:26 GMT
The majority of people currently are struggling, increasing everyone's wages will increase cost of goods and services which in turn causes people to struggle surely? How come inflation has shot up before any pay rises have been awarded then? Do yourself a favour, do some research. Suggest you do the same and steer clear of the Guardian!
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Post by knype on Jun 27, 2022 8:10:15 GMT
The majority of people currently are struggling, increasing everyone's wages will increase cost of goods and services which in turn causes people to struggle surely? How come inflation has shot up before any pay rises have been awarded then? Do yourself a favour, do some research. You have heard of the war in Ukraine and the fact that we have been in a "Pandemic"?
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Post by henry on Jun 27, 2022 8:19:06 GMT
I’m £20 down per month due to the N.I. Increase from a £30k salary. Just what wage is your public sector worker on ?
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Post by Gob Bluth on Jun 27, 2022 9:33:15 GMT
I’m £20 down per month due to the N.I. Increase from a £30k salary. Just what wage is your public sector worker on ? Strangely the IFS says 35k is the line for less vs more? The article is from April which I think pre-dates the changes to the changes in NI. ifs.org.uk/publications/15929#:~:text=Rates%20are%20rising&text=On%20April%206th%2C%20the%20rates,points%20from%20April%206th%202022. "Taking the higher rates and the higher threshold together, those earning less than around £35,000 will see a fall in their overall NICs bill in 2022-23 relative to 2021-22. Those earning more than this will see an increase in their overall NICs bill."
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Post by followyoudown on Jun 27, 2022 9:49:21 GMT
That's not even taking into account food bills. It's a well known fact everyone who works in the public sector is paid so poorly they have to use food banks. If some public sector workers had to pay even a fraction of what their final salary pension schemes costs they really would get a cost of living shock.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jun 27, 2022 10:39:01 GMT
In your words, absolute pish. I’d expect no other comment from a fool like you. I see you've gone full Gammon rage this morning already.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jun 27, 2022 10:39:41 GMT
How come inflation has shot up before any pay rises have been awarded then? Do yourself a favour, do some research. You have heard of the war in Ukraine and the fact that we have been in a "Pandemic"? Indeed I have. Are you saying that's the root cause of inflation?
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jun 27, 2022 10:41:14 GMT
That's not even taking into account food bills. It's a well known fact everyone who works in the public sector is paid so poorly they have to use food banks. If some public sector workers had to pay even a fraction of what their final salary pension schemes costs they really would get a cost of living shock. Your pension ok mate?
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Post by thewonderstuff on Jun 27, 2022 10:43:27 GMT
It's a well known fact everyone who works in the public sector is paid so poorly they have to use food banks. If some public sector workers had to pay even a fraction of what their final salary pension schemes costs they really would get a cost of living shock. Your pension ok mate? This lad's is. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-61917259This country is literally sick.
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Post by knype on Jun 27, 2022 10:45:03 GMT
You have heard of the war in Ukraine and the fact that we have been in a "Pandemic"? Indeed I have. Are you saying that's the root cause of inflation? I'd say yes
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jun 27, 2022 10:45:23 GMT
And some more reality.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jun 27, 2022 10:45:44 GMT
Indeed I have. Are you saying that's the root cause of inflation? I'd say yes All I need to know from you then.
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Post by knype on Jun 27, 2022 10:54:25 GMT
All I need to know from you then. And the economist I heard last week on Radio 2...
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Post by partickpotter on Jun 27, 2022 11:03:34 GMT
I’d expect no other comment from a fool like you. I see you've gone full Gammon rage this morning already. Nope. You’ve certainly gone full wanker mode though.
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Post by knype on Jun 27, 2022 11:08:43 GMT
All I need to know from you then. Implying what?
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Post by foghornsgleghorn on Jun 27, 2022 11:23:33 GMT
Looks like there's a summer of discontent on its way, strike after strike, to add to the discontent in the Tory Party... www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61946038All orchestrated by the lefty union nutters to oust Boris I thought the lefty unions would be looking for a lefty government . On that basis keeping the shambling toxic Johnson as PM until a GE would seem to be the best way of delivering that.
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Post by knype on Jun 27, 2022 11:28:39 GMT
All orchestrated by the lefty union nutters to oust Boris I thought the lefty unions would be looking for a lefty government . On that basis keeping the shambling toxic Johnson as PM until a GE would seem to be the best way of delivering that. Not with Kier Starmer there it won't and they know it
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Post by partickpotter on Jun 27, 2022 11:32:21 GMT
All orchestrated by the lefty union nutters to oust Boris I thought the lefty unions would be looking for a lefty government . On that basis keeping the shambling toxic Johnson as PM until a GE would seem to be the best way of delivering that. I think Johnson’s more left than Starmer!
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Post by Gob Bluth on Jun 27, 2022 11:57:44 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jun 27, 2022 12:05:30 GMT
I see you've gone full Gammon rage this morning already. Nope. You’ve certainly gone full wanker mode though. Bless.....calm down and have a wagon wheel.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jun 27, 2022 12:06:09 GMT
All I need to know from you then. Implying what? You know nothing about the root cause of inflation mate.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jun 27, 2022 12:07:42 GMT
Incidentally the airline staff are striking to GET BACK the 10% that was taken off them during the pandemic. Seems fair to me.
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Post by thebet365 on Jun 27, 2022 12:29:13 GMT
I’m £20 down per month due to the N.I. Increase from a £30k salary. Just what wage is your public sector worker on ? Strangely the IFS says 35k is the line for less vs more? The article is from April which I think pre-dates the changes to the changes in NI. ifs.org.uk/publications/15929#:~:text=Rates%20are%20rising&text=On%20April%206th%2C%20the%20rates,points%20from%20April%206th%202022. "Taking the higher rates and the higher threshold together, those earning less than around £35,000 will see a fall in their overall NICs bill in 2022-23 relative to 2021-22. Those earning more than this will see an increase in their overall NICs bill." Yes that's over a year, but from April - June everyone (Above primary threshold) was worse off because of the 1.25% uplift in NI, from July onwards when the threshold changes a lot of people will be better off. Would have to be on 47K a year to be £40 a month worse off NI at the minute.
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Post by knype on Jun 27, 2022 12:37:20 GMT
You know nothing about the root cause of inflation mate. Neither do you if you think the Ukraine war and the last 2 years of "Pandemic" have nothing to do with the current state
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Post by Gob Bluth on Jun 27, 2022 13:34:26 GMT
You know nothing about the root cause of inflation mate. Neither do you if you think the Ukraine war and the last 2 years of "Pandemic" have nothing to do with the current state I may have touched on it a while back or I may have made that up and assumed I was right but as this podcast touches on (albeit a US based discussion) there's a very good chance the governments of the world economy pushed too hard and possibly in the wrong places for the covid recovery. I promise you though number 10 will continue to push the narrative that they are faultless. www.npr.org/2022/06/17/1105927579/the-debate-over-whats-causing-inflation
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Post by milton58 on Jun 27, 2022 13:58:07 GMT
You know nothing about the root cause of inflation mate. Neither do you if you think the Ukraine war and the last 2 years of "Pandemic" have nothing to do with the current state what as the pandemic and the Ukraine war got to do with inflation
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jun 27, 2022 14:42:15 GMT
Neither do you if you think the Ukraine war and the last 2 years of "Pandemic" have nothing to do with the current state what as the pandemic and the Ukraine war got to do with inflation Not very much at all. Knype is in some sort of denial.
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